Smithfield City, Utah City Council Meeting, Wed, Jan 14, 2026

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Welcome, everyone. Public notice is given that Smithfield City Council will meet in a regular scheduled meeting at 96 South Main Smithfield, Utah, on Wednesday, 01/14/2026. The meeting will begin at six p. M. Welcome. And we'd like to start with the pledge of allegiance and thought or prayer from Todd Orme.

Would everyone please join us? Please arise. I'm gonna step down here because I always feel like I'm blocking

allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America

I'd also like to start with a prayer this evening

with the news report of us. So thank you.

Our dear father in heaven, we are very grateful this day for the blessings that we have to live in this fine city, in this fine state, and in this fine nation. We're grateful father for the blessings that we enjoy. We're grateful for the opportunity we have to serve and to be good citizens and good neighbors. We pray this evening that that would help to guide and direct us as we do our best to continue to provide for the very best circumstances for all of the citizens of Smithfield. And we pray that that will help us to act in a way which would be in accordance with with thy will. We are grateful again for the blessings which we enjoy and we ask that that will continue to bless the citizens and the city of Smithfield. And we ask and say these things in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

Approval of the city council meeting minutes from 12/10/2025. Make a motion.

I'd like to make a motion that we approve the city council meeting minutes from 12/10/2025.

I second.

Trying to beat out Wade here. What?

Yes. Tell me to make up for it. Awesome.

Public comment section. Take a vote. Oh, I'm sorry. Let's take a vote. Jay?

I wasn't part of the council, so I'm gonna abstain.

Yes. John? Jen?

Yes.

Todd? Yes.

And I'll abstain as well since I'm new.

Public comment on the terms excuse me. Public comment on the items not on the agenda or agenda items not requiring public hearing during the council meeting. Now is the time to speak. I'd also like everyone to know that each agenda item moving forward, we're gonna allow public comment, so it doesn't have to this agenda was already printed prior to us meeting today. So in the future and as items come down the agenda, we are going to allow public input and comment there. So, don't feel like this is your only opportunity to speak. So in the past, that's going to be something that we're shifting a little bit. So I'd like to open the the opportunity if you have anything you'd like to share. Please speak into the microphone. Get really you almost have to eat the microphone.

So Good evening. Thank you, counsel, for being here. My name is James Elwood, and I apologize that I need to leave early for a previous commitment. But I just wanted to sustain and support the proposal by Brian Fillmore in developing that parcel of land. I think the RA1 residential one acre lots supports that area. Allows for family and families to use their land and hopefully supports opportunities for children and grandchildren to occupy that land. Thank you for your time and listening and have a good night.

Thank you. Thanks, Jim.

And so just for clarification, if people are wanting to talk about that rezone, you can wait until right before that's gonna be discussed. You don't have to do that here at the very beginning. Since since it's going to be available for everybody to talk on any agenda item.

Alright. Good evening, council. My name is Troy McLean. I'm a resident here in Smithfield, and I would like to petition the council today for a, special use permit for a conditional use permit rather for a, home based FFL. And I understand the city zoning laws, regarding an FFL, and I understand Traffic and signage, etcetera, you know, we wanna keep that, restricted to to, Main Street. I get that. But as far as a e based, e commerce based, FFL business, I'd like to petition the the council to consider a conditional use permit. And do you have any questions for me regarding how the operation would be would be conducted or do you have any zoning considerations that considerations that signage and traffic and noise and general residential appearance doesn't cover?

And so this would probably be something that would become an agenda item at some point in time, right? If you wanna come and contact me, I'll give you an application

and a conditional use, and we'll fill it out, and then we'll put it on the agenda. Perfect. Perfect. So you're primarily

asking for, like, an e commerce, or will it be, like, a brick and mortar sales? Well, it's a it's brick and mortar. It'll be in my home, but it'll be an e commerce only sales. Yeah. So there'll be no foot traffic. There'll be no signage. You know, bless the, the Internet for all the opportunities that it gives simple business people like me the opportunity to sell things across state lines when we couldn't before.

Yeah. I think there will be a process for that. I'll give you my card and you'll contact me about that. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Alright. For those that may not understand, that's for federal firearms. Federal firearms license. Yes.

Okay. Is there a is it like a class three or what's what's the is it No. There there there will be no class class three. It'll it it won't be manufacture.

There will be no manufacture of of ammunition, just simple firearm sales. Just essentially transfers. The the the bulk of the, the bulk of the business is gonna be restricted to paperwork.

We've also approved code on that, so I can send you that as well. If you have to call me, I can we actually have an entire focus on residential class or the type of license. So just call me. Okay.

Alright. Thank you, counsel. Thank you, counsel.

Thanks.

Thank you so much for your guys' time. My name is Lizette Vujagas. I work I was gonna say work here in Smithfield, but I do. But I live here in Smithfield. And something that I was questioning was, maybe bringing a little bit of the city with the police department, a little bit more communication. I would love to see I looked it up on the website, so if I'm not looking in the right place, please tell me where, of kind of what calls are coming in. What are we doing in the valley? What's going on in the valley? As a mom, I would love to see what's going on. What's going on in the valley? And I'm super loud. Sorry. What's going on in the valley? So that that would be my mom hat. Definitely want to see what kinds of calls are coming in here in Smithfield. And with my work hat prevention wise, it's really informative for us to know what's going on in our city for us to focus more in prevention in those areas. So I would just love to get a little bit more information on that to see that and then to piggyback on that. I've had a lot of thoughts on the Cache County Sheriff deciding to not post people's bookings. I don't see that that's very safe because again we're not knowing what's going on in Cache County. So we really want to know who's doing it and what's going on. Same deal. As a mom and with the work hat, we would love that information as prevention. I know you can call in and ask if somebody is there, but we're not finding out what's going on in our valleys. So a little bit of transparency and communication and I guess you guys are our voice to the county. So thank you for your time. We appreciate it. Thank you.

Anyone else? Close the public comment section at 06:12. Do I have to close it? Okay. So now I'd like to invite the youth council members, JC Tueller and Carly Grunig. Sorry. Jace. Alright. Jace, I'm sorry. My apologies.

I'm Jace Tuller.

I'm Carly.

Some of the activities we have coming up, January 31, we're helping with the triathlon at Sky View, and that'll be really fun.

February 21, you have the America two fifty art. So we get to help set up for that and take down, and we get to, like, walk around and see the art pieces that they're doing.

And then way in the future, we're in April 4, we'll be helping with, like, the scavenger hunt, for, like, the Easter egg hunt. So, yeah. Those are what we have coming up, and we can't wait.

So So just for clarification,

the art gallery, is that the one that's at the youth center? Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks so much. You guys are awesome.

Next, I'd like to turn the time over to Dion Hunsaker. Do a presentation for the Lions.

Thank you. About a year ago, we signed up to do park benches through the trek program. And on the screen is Trek bench. Out in front of the doors, by the doors, there's two recycling bins for plastic. For every thousand pounds, Trix would give us a bench, but they would only let us do one a year. So we with the help of the Riverdale lion, Riverdale contributed about 70% of the plastic that we collected. They have several locations in Weber County that they collected the plastic. The other 30 pounds, most of that was collected through the boxes that we have out front. I started with one there, but it filled up so fast that I had to put a second one there. So through this program, we have obtained our first bench, which we are now going to donate to the city. Like I said, it'd take a thousand pounds to do this for each bench. The Riverdale Lions did about four or five benches with other clubs. So that shows you how much plastic the lions in Northern Utah have saved from going to landfills. I was planning on doing more benches. They would only let you do one a year, but TREC changed the program starting this year. You no longer get a bench for every thousand pounds of plastic. They will put you in a drawing for one every so often for the plastic that you donate. So there is no guarantee now you may be able to donate a thousand 2,000 pounds and not get a bench because it's a drawing. I think it's 400 nationwide, where in Northern Utah last year, we got, I think, five or six just in the Lions Club. So the chance of getting to bench again may not be very good. However, my family plans on continuing to do this as a service project to the community. So I appreciate the people from Smithfield who have made donations to that. I will say when those two boxes are full, I maybe get five to seven pounds. That shows you how much plastic it takes to get the thousand pounds. So, again, almost 30% came from the residents of Smithfield. So, I'd like to thank them. The second thing. Several years ago, at a convention I went to with the Lions, I obtained a braille copy of the Constitution, which we donated to the Smithfield library. This is a children's book that's in braille that we are now donating to the library. Eyesight is one of the things that Lyons was first involved in when they started. So you can feel along that book, that this convention that I obtained, this one, we worked and put the braille on top on the book and in different pages to, do that. We had to have somebody come from, the national, federation from, I think, Washington, DC to help us and to check the book. So it was a very interesting service project that we did at one of the meetings that we went to. So anyway, I'd like to present that to the library for their use and hopefully if any children in the community could use that, it'll be available for them.

So thank you for your time. Hey. Quick question. Thank you. What is Trex? Is that a company? You said Trex earlier. What is that a company or

It's Trex. It's Trex.

It's the material. Oh, the material. Okay. Gotcha. They do

besides benches and chairs and they they do a lot of patio furniture from the recycled plastic. I don't know exactly what they do. They melt it down and then form

board some decking. Like the trucks decking.

So they're the ones that kind of do this then? Yeah. It's a nationwide

company that's based

in New York. Okay. Yeah. Where is this bench going to be placed? Do we know?

I'd like to have you put it over in the Forrester Acres. There's already several benches there, but there's some places I think could still use a bench. Along with this, I'd like to recommend that the tree committee continue to put more trees along the trail. During the summer, I walk there almost every day, and there are some areas that you really appreciate the shade from the trees that the tree committee has put there, and some areas where I wish there were more. So anyway, that's where I'd recommend that you place it. Thank you, Dion. Okay. Thanks for all your effort. That's a lot of work. Thank you.

I'd like to now to open up public comment for discussion on the ordinance change, twenty twenty five dash 27. Oh, I'm sorry. Discussion and possible vote on ordinance twenty twenty five dash 27 an ordinance re zoning Cash County parcel number 08 Dash 105 Dash 0017 from an A three agriculture three acre to our A one residential agriculture one acre. The parcel is located at 4688 Southwest and is five acres. The request was submitted by Brian Fillmore.

And I am Brian Fillmore. Excuse me. I'm losing my voice. Typically do about this time of evening, but thank you for the opportunity to kind of explain what what the rezone is is all about and why. As you probably know, in October at the planning commission, there was a seven to zero reject vote of of the proposal. I reconsidered that. And in December, we met again with the planning commission and there was a split four three vote to approve. This r RA one zoning request would match the zones immediately to my north. Right to my south is a three. My neighbor to the south is a three as I am now, but that's kind of the way it would look if there were an approval. I'd like to just just make a few points addressing what has been presented to you in a petition opposing this proposal. And and I and I'll be I'll be honest with you. I I don't find any point in that document that I I can entirely agree with. The first thing is incompatible land use. I I'm not quite sure what would be incompatible about changing from a three to to r one or r a one. It's it's still an agricultural designation, larger lots, an acre or more, still a lot of open space. What would happen is that my my four acres that are a field right now that we're talking about, that's what would be developed, or is being farmed is being farmed farmed by my neighbor that lives across. The railroad tracks to the west from me, Mike Hanson and his son, Robert. And and I I have appreciated the the arrangement that we have had and them taking care of those four acres because I'm not a farmer and I don't have equipment or skills to to keep that much land looking nice and and being useful. So I'm appreciative of the fact that for the last seventeen, going on eighteen years, they have done that for me and allowed me to keep my entire property very respectable instead of the four acres turning into a weed patch. I might note that that the petition opposing characterizes this rezone as one which would permit dense housing or medium or high density residential development. And I'll just say that's a mischaracterization of of of what I'm asking here. I'm only asking to put at the very most that would even fit if and I don't know that that three additional lots would fit, once all of the the city ordinances are taken into account for that little tiny development, but that would be the max. And I that plus my my home, my current home, would be four homes on those five acres. So, I'm not quite sure. Well, that's definitely not medium high or high density housing. There's been concern about safety risks. I agree with everybody that has spoken in the commission meetings that 400 West is a very narrow road. And yet, my proposal is is the only only safety risk is that there are a few more cars that would be regularly accessing 400 West than already do. That that is the main impact that my proposal would have on traffic on that road. I might note that nobody who is who who cites the safety risks of 400 West as a reason not to approve the the rezone, nobody wants 400 West to be widened. And and the reason I believe that is the case is because they just want that the character of the city in our part of town to stay exactly the way it is. And widening that road would change the character. That's that's my belief as to why why that objection is there. Also, that that school children, if there were school children that lived in those two or three residents, additional residences on on that plot, needed to walk to Summit Elementary School, they would have to use 400 West to to get there. And I would that is true, unless they climb the fence and walk through someone else's property to get over to 400 South. But there's only one block of 400 West that they would have to traverse and and that would they could do that on the on the east side the east side of the road which is is grassy. And then they could get on to 400 South which is a less traveled road. So my my my belief is that neither safety concerns generally or safety concerns related to school children specifically really should have any major impact on on a decision regarding my rezone. If if if that if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong about them, that is a significant factor, then the safety of 400 West could be addressed unilaterally by the city. I understand that that's not going to happen. But on the West Side, there is enough room, probably from two feet to 15 feet of distance from the edge of the pavement to the Union Pacific Railway right away that could potentially be used to widen the road. But I'm not asking that that be the case, but I I just don't believe that the safety considerations that that my proposal is going to increase the safety risks at that location. My property is considered a buffer zone or part of a buffer zone between what is light industrial or commercial uses to the on the South End of of Smithfield and the residential areas just to the north, which are R A 1, R 112, R 110 that are all very close to my property. As the petition notes, the the city general plan points out that that area is kind of a transition an agricultural transition zone. I I maintain that an approval is not going to change the buffer zone, that that being a buffer zone for the light industrial that's to the south. We're still talking about wide open properties. And and if I were to pass away, my wife and I were to pass away tomorrow, and the likelihood is that my kids would probably settle our estate by selling the that land entirely to the the highest bidder. My land does fit into the the proposed future land use plan as being in the light industrial section of town. And I know that the city is not pressuring anyone to sell their land so that that what what is on that proposed map becomes a reality. But if my kids were settling the estate, they would probably sell to the highest bidder. And if that happened to be someone who wanted to to put that land to a a light industrial use, and the city were to agree to that, then there would be no no buffer zone, really, on on our end of town. So my proposal actually, I I believe, will preserve the buffer zone and the transition zone and leave that still a largely agricultural plot of land. There's there are comments about community impact and disappearing farmland. There is no doubt that that is especially a concern. Well, it ought to be a concern to all of us. It is a concern. And it's especially a concern to those few farmers that are left. As I mentioned before, the Hansons have have kindly cultivated my land, my four acres of field. And they run a dairy operation and but what it takes to run their dairy operations is a significantly larger amount of land that they lease or or or own and cultivate to produce cattle feed. And my four acres, I don't believe is going to ruin their operation. There's so much more that they they cultivate and that they need. Now if if those larger tracts of land that they lease were to be sold, for development, that could have a catastrophic effect on that that little dairy. But my little four acres is tucked out of the way. It is it it's not even hardly noticeable to most people. I don't believe that my property being developed into two or three more more homes is is likely to to be the catalyst for larger landowners that whose whose land the Hansons and others cultivate suddenly being sold off. If if that were to happen, it would be for other reasons, not because my my land was rezoned. Strained and unsafe infrastructure and environmental impact. The city engineer has assured me that the sewer line that goes down 400 West has the capacity to to easily handle a development much larger than the one that I am proposing. So sewage should not be an issue. I can't speak to culinary water, but I I believe that Smithfield has been very wise to to look to establish new water sources to meet the growth of the city, especially in the East and the North. I don't believe that three more residences potentially on my my land is likely to overload the culinary water system. And as far as irrigation water goes, I I do own shares in the Smithfield Irrigation Company that are adequate to meet the irrigation needs of any future landowners on those five acres. As far as if my intent is to have a small development there. The timing of that, I don't know for sure, but that's my intent. And when it happens, a street, with a cul de sac or some kind of turnaround would be put in, and it will meet the city codes. It will not be unsafe. Runoff water, storm water will be minimal, but it will also be handled according to city codes. There's nothing unsafe about that. I I resist the the characterization of my request as irresponsible development, which is what what the the petition asserts. Property values, contrary to what the the document says, I think would go up from having a nicely kept little development there as opposed to the land values going down in adjacent properties. So and as far as the comments about lack of transparency and public input, I believe I have been pretty pretty transparent with my neighbors about what I intended to do. I don't I don't think I have been non transparent. And I think the city has abided by its rules as far as notifying the public about this rezone request. So if there are concerns in that regard, then the city has in place for notifying the public and whether those those rules may need to be changed or amplified in some way. Last point, small town feel. There are there are among those that that oppose my proposal, families that have have deep roots in this part of town in agriculture. And I I I don't deny that. That. And I and I appreciate their appreciation of of maintaining the city in Southwest Smithfield the way it is. However, my point is, should that be at my expense when I'm asking so little in this modification of the use of my land? Also, I don't believe that adding two or three more families right there is going to take away from the small town feel of Smithfield, but rather it could encourage it further by just simple neighborliness amongst the the people that live there. And if there is concern, even though I I am not requesting anything more than an RA one, if there is concern that what might happen to my property would be similar to what happened with the Westridge Apartments, high density housing there, That's not going to happen. And I know there are arguments that, yeah, but if you sell your land, then it's out of your hands. What happens to it? Well, I am going to live there until I die. I'm gonna be on that those five acres in one spot or another until I die. And I wouldn't want a a townhome complex in my backyard either. So so I I would not sell my land to anyone who intended to do anything more with it than what I am intending to do with it. And and so I I just I hope to reassure everyone that this is not going to turn into medium or high density housing in their backyard. And that's all I have. Sorry to take so long.

Thanks, Brian. Thank you, Brian. Thank you.

Brian, did you have it you wanna share anything from the city?

Nothing that has already been discussed. Nothing that hasn't been discussed.

Does anyone else have any comments on this public input?

I'm Luke Downs. I live on 400 West there. Appreciate the the opportunity to be up here. I I do oppose this. I don't think it fits with the other homes along 400 West. Zoning requirements aside for a second. If we start at 200 South and work our way down 400 West, there's a four acre lot, there's a two acre lot, there's more two acre lots, there's three more two acre lots, then there's the RA one that you can see here on the screen. Then there's a three acre lot, Brian's five acre lot, and then two more that are 4.88 acres. Each one of those have one home on them. I believe that an RA two is more acceptable and it actually fits the neighborhood and and allows for people to move in who want a little more land, who want animals who kinda fit that neighborhood. So, my family's been there a long time and and we just like to see it stay a nice agricultural neighborhood. As far as medium or high or low density, I think those are all relative. We can argue those all day long, but I don't think low density housing is having people in your backyard looking over the fence all the time. And I believe that's what adding three more homes would be. So appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Luke. Thanks, Luke.

Any other comments?

My name is Amanda Addison. I sent you guys an email earlier today and I apologize. I don't think I sent it to you, Jen. So I just wanna share some of my email because I know that the residents here haven't heard what my thoughts are. I've lived in this area of Smithfield since the eighties. I was a child in that neighborhood. I'm now back as an adult and I've always appreciated that farmland, the open space that we have and the sense of community here. So rezoning this parcel for additional homes would negatively impact the character and safety of our neighborhood. I know we briefly talked about traffic and safety concerns. I drive on 400 West. I live on 200 South and I drive on 400 West every single day in the extremely narrow and has not been improved for many years. In fact, I don't think it's ever been improved. Increased traffic from new homes would make this area even more dangerous. Currently, cars often exceed the 25 mile per hour speed limit. Traveling 35 to 45 plus miles per hour and impatient drivers sometimes pass on the narrow road. I've seen that happen probably three times. Families walking with strollers from those West Ridge apartments. I see tractors sharing the road. They're already at risk and adding more homes will only worsen these hazards because that road is not big enough for a tractor and a car to pass very safely. I think infrastructure issues, instead of improving more development, the city should prioritize maintaining and improving existing roads and infrastructure first. Growth on the West Side Of Smithfield, especially near the Smithfield Temple, has already made roads like 400 West, 800 West, 600 South, and 1000 South congested and unsafe. These roads were never designed for this level of traffic. I know more people are using those roads because they're trying to get around the congestion in the morning to get to the stop lights. I think the city continues to approve farmland conversions without adequately considering the impact on our current residents. Please ask yourselves, if you lived in that area, would you want this level of development next to you? Probably not. I urge you to reject this rezone and focus on making the West Side Of Smithfield safer with wider roads and sidewalks before adding more homes. Our community deserves thoughtful planning that prioritizes safety and quality of life. Thank you. Thank

you. Thank

you. Thanks, Eddie.

Any other comments?

My name is Jake Erickson. I've been a resident in Smithfield for eighteen years, I believe. I grew up here riding my bikes on these streets. And I'll be honest, I'm somebody that doesn't sugarcoat things. The small town feel is gone. We've already we've already lost that. However, I do think that we can get it back. I grew up on 3rd South, not far from here. I would we would pass people and everybody would wave. That's lost. People don't do that anymore. However, I'm very displeased with everything on the North Side Of Smithfield. The homes that have gone in there are terrible. Big builders will come in and they'll just make this atrocious and nobody will like to see it. However, this is a different opportunity. This is an opportunity to do it right, have a small builder come in. I'm a builder myself. I am licensed in five states. I build all over the Northwestern United States. Most of the time, we've had a meeting about this. I've been gone doing this, and I finally get the opportunity to voice it. But this is an opportunity to do it right and see how different it can be. Luke's comment about R A 2, my question on that would be, is it less housing or no housing? Do you guys know? I'm asking you.

I don't know that we could speak to that. Okay. I I'm I'm genuine. I Typically, for a public comment, the they don't return Okay. Sorry. I didn't know.

But if you can get a hold of me, I can let you know. Okay. R I 2 is two homes

or one home for two acres. One home for two acres. Okay. And, honestly, I think that's a that's a good middle ground. Most of the time, these houses will have two cars. So we're talking a maximum another four cars of traffic. That doesn't seem like a lot to me. If there is three homes, that's six cars. That just doesn't seem like that's that big of a deal to me. I drive on that road often as well. I I I live on 1st North. It just doesn't seem that bad. The other thing is like, as a builder and building in several different states, I live here. This is the hardest city to build in. We have the most regulations, the most hoops to jump through the most, for lack of a better term, b s to to get through. At some point, if we regulate ourselves to death, how are we supposed to grow the city if if it needs to be grown? How do we how do we make it easier on ourselves? It's not we don't we don't need to make our lives harder. But I'm also somebody that enjoys a building code and enjoys inspectors because we're held to a higher standard. My house was built in 1912. I hate my house. It's not 16 on center. It's not 32 on center. It's 24, 36, eighteen, fifty nine. There's nothing. It's a it's a mess. However, now we have an opportunity to do it right, to do it better, to learn from what we did on the North Side. Some of you were a part, maybe have been a part of that. Some of you are new. And so I urge you to to consider maybe there is a middle ground here and it can be worked out better. And we can do a better job and keep that small town feel or step back into the small town feel of it. I've been all over the I've been all over, like, all over the Northwestern United States. This is not a small town anymore. We have we have a lot of stores. We have a lot of people, but the small town feel and how we talk to each other, how we greet each other can still be there, by all means. But this is not necessarily a small town anymore. And this is an opportunity to to step in the right direction towards that. So Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Jake. Thanks.

Guess it's my turn. Most people in the audience know where I stand and how I feel. Oh, my name is Ruth Green. I live on 300 South. My roots are deep in that neighborhood. I don't really have anything new to say, but I would like to provide an opportunity for the people who came to this meeting tonight to let their views be known by giving them an opportunity in just a minute to raise their hand if they have come in support of keeping, our neighborhood, open space, setting a precedent by rejecting this, rezone so that it doesn't get out of control. If this one is denied, then chances the next one will be denied and so on. That was stated at the first planning commission, I think, by Jamie Anderson, that it would set a precedence, for the future use of that area. So now these people have had a minute to think. If you feel comfortable raising your hand to support, that we maintain our neighborhood and our small town feel. People are still waving. That's the first thing my husband noticed when he was new to Smithfield was everybody waves to you. I that he would keep saying, who is that? And it was like, it doesn't matter. You just wave. So okay. If you are here in support of our neighborhood, staying, small town, keep it as it is, preserve what we love about it, would you please raise your hand? I think that's a pretty good share of people letting you know how they feel. I appreciate your time. I appreciate you considering the needs of our West Side community.

Thank you. Thank you, Ruth. Thank you, Ruth.

Instead of climbing over everybody, I probably should have just jumped the Jeff Strait. I live on 4 South, so I'm a neighbor to Brian fairly close. The property between me is the Nelson property and that used to be in part of this proposal. I'm on my property goes down to the corner of 4 South And 4th West. I raise a couple of beef cattle there every year. Take care of them. Family and friends purchase the meat each year. A little concerned about losing the opportunity of keeping animals there. I can see the proposal is a little bit better. And that, and what was brought up was the real concern that happened up at Westridge. Because when that was originally approved, it was gonna be retirement homes, like, further to the east off Of 50 South. And then after it got approved, because of the low zoning number, I think 12,000, I think was the zoning, the contractor then switched it after it had been approved by the city and then they put in townhomes because the property got sold. And so, you know, we we don't want to have the rug pulled out from under us and all of a sudden something happened. The problem is is the state of Utah allows that to happen with what they passed through the state. And at the point of the city approving it, then it was out of their control and the builder or the person who then purchased the land from the person that was gonna build it for retirement homes changed his mind and he was allowed to according to the law. So, 4th West is a little bit of a concern because of the narrowness that everybody has talked about and widening it is not possible unless you go deep into other people's property. To be accessible by people driving there and it's a weird thing to come along really wide and then all of a sudden go to a bald bottleneck on both sides of of the property. The city is Zoning Commission said that the city won't widen the road there themselves. It has to be done by individuals. But the way houses are located across there and sheds and properties, if you go all all along 4th West, you would have to move a lot of people's personal things that they've established there. And that would create some problems. So I I think compromise can can be reached. I would rather have a couple of homes there myself personally than be allowed to put a business there or businesses there in terms of the way it's supposed to be zoned there if I'm understanding it correctly. Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, Jeff.

Yes. If you keep it short.

I appreciate Jeff speaking because he is the closest neighbor that has spoken today. In fact, he's the only one that has spoken who can see my property from from his his property. I would I would just note that well, you can see from the zoning map how it's this how it's zoned currently. But most of the people that are opposed to this, that have that signed the the 128 signatures, are not people that live on these large tracks of land. They're ones who live in their R 112, R 110, R 120 neighborhoods. And and I I guess, all I'm saying is that as a property owner, I'm being imposed on. I'm being imposed on by people who already are living in even a a more dense situation than the one that I am proposing to put on this on this land. So that's my only comment.

Thank you. Thank you.

Hi there. My name is Kathy Marconi. I live on 3 South and I moved here in 2007 to come take care of my dad. I've been coming to Smithfield and Cornish for I'm going to tell my age 48 years. And we've had plenty of relatives come and visit from Minnesota Illinois Arizona and we still do have the small town vibe. My family is just amazed that all the people that wave every time they go up and down our street. Maybe it's they're waving at Ruth but they're catching us and the people that visit. But we have a great neighborhood and all of my family loves to come visit Smithfield because it's quaint and it's small and it's country and they get out of the big cities and they love to When those townhomes got slapped up, my brother-in-law noticed it. Right when I took him back from the airport. He goes, Wow. You guys got a lot of building going on around here. And I said, Yeah. But if we can just keep it this way. When people move here, I said yeah but if we can just keep it this way. When people move here they're like we don't want to be in the city. We don't want to be in Logan. So they're thinking Hiram or they're thinking cute little Smithfield because it is quaint. It is small and we want to keep it that way. So I oppose it so that we can just keep it the way it is. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thanks Kathy. Thanks Kathy.

My name is Vicky Reed, and I really didn't wanna have to do this. But I'm the perfect example of what happens with development. I live on 300 West, and my roots are so damn deep, it's gonna take a nuclear blast to get me out of here. I've lived here for over sixty five years, and my grandparents lived across the street in a beautiful acre lot. And I sold that acre lot to a developer in good faith who told me that he would keep the barn and that they were going to have that as a nice little place to raise chickens and do all kinds of stuff. And if you go past my house now and you look across the street, you can see there are four homes there and a cul de sac. And once you sell it, it's gone. And I have regretted that every day since I sold that property. I have no say on what happens there. The road coming out shines right into my bedroom, and you say, well, what's the difference between six cars? I can guarantee you, it's a hell of a lot more than six cars that go in and out of areas like that. It's a mess. And like I said, I regret it every day of my life that I sold that piece of property and it was only an acre lot. But let me tell you, it has made a huge difference in my life and a huge difference in everybody who has homes on that 3rd West. Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks, Vicky.

How are you guys doing? I'm Michael Gibbs. I own the other piece of land that can look into his yard. You know, we first start out speaking about how we're losing the small town. The small town is being lost not because of development like this where we're dropping to one acre. It's just the fact that society itself has stopped speaking to each other and treating each other with respect. When we started this process or this is the second time I've been here, you know, originally, they were shooting for one twelve or one twenty. A lot of people got up here and said, hey. You know what? I don't like it that small. They have the chance that once they sell this land, that they'll do exactly like they did up the street from me, put in the that high density housing and that kind of stuff. And they're like, well, you know, we feel okay if we move to to one a r. Well, from what I'm hearing now is that we're looking at moving the goalpost again for them. I hate to try to tell people what to do with their land. K? I tried to develop years ago. They shot me down. The house next to me, that was supposed to be one AR. I was told you can't bid you can't build there because it's not big enough for a house. Developer came in, builds a house. K. Or a barn a barn slash house slash whatever it is. And I love my neighbors. So if this is coming out different for the Oaks, I I enjoy them as as my neighbors. They didn't start the process. It was started be before. I don't have a true issue with it moving to one AR, except for, like everybody else's has set. The moment we make this decision, we have opened ourselves up for the the dishonest people to come in here and say, oh, yeah. But, you know, I'm only putting a barn in. Oh, now it's a house. Oh, I'm putting a a storage shed in. Oh, now it's a business. I don't know if there's any way you can stop that kind of stuff, but I'm not necessarily opposed now that we have come back and said, oh, okay. Let's go one a r. K. I've lived on a full acre of land, a little more than an acre of land. It's plenty. I feel I have plenty of open space. My dogs run it. I got chickens. I got well, every now and then I get somebody's horse in my yard. I used to have pigs in my yard when Nelsons had their pig farm. You know, change is going to happen. If there's any way to to try to make sure that it doesn't get mass developed, then I don't have that it doesn't get mass developed, then I don't have an opposition that one a r is respectable. So that's all I wanted to say. So thanks. Thanks, Michael. Thanks, Mike. Thank

you.

Any other comments? We'll close the public input at 07:01PM.

Mayor, I need to recuse myself from this agenda item and the vote discussion to vote on this agenda item. Thank

you. And now open for our discussion. Yes. I'd like to give my thoughts on it, if I could. I appreciate the thoughts that have been given.

I've spent a lot of time driving by that property. Yes. Do you have a microphone near it, Todd, that you can use?

Yeah. We can turn around. I can try and speak louder. One of them over here is dead. I've spent a lot of time driving by that area. Beautiful area. All different times of day, evening, looking at it. Commend mister Fillmore for the way that he keeps that property up. It's beautiful. What I'm trying to do is make the most sense in my mind and try and limit the amount of emotional attachment I get to my thoughts simply because I get it. I'm a I'm a landowner too. And in fact, I'm right in the middle of dealing with, having to do something with land that I have. And I try and take the emotion out of that one too and it's difficult. But I'm trying to take out of it a little bit. A couple of clarifications that I want to make, Brian, please correct me if I'm wrong. When the initial petition came through that, or the initial request that came through for Mr. Filmore, it was to go to R-one 112 and that was voted down unanimously. And I certainly, I certainly agreed with that decision. This time, his reconsideration is to go to RA1. RA1 is still residential, agricultural. RA1 has the same street limitations, everything else has RA2 would have as far as as far as limitations on, you know, the the, side measurements, measurements, etcetera. From what I can see on this property, I cannot see that there would, there would be a maximum of one additional home that would actually be on, on the street there on 400. Everything else would have to be behind those which, Mr. Filmore talked about, having a a appropriate access road that would go back in. Those homes would have to be behind it. This property is bordered right next to it by additional RA one property. And so the fact that some of those areas there are also RA1 and very large areas and yet only have one home on them, that area is would be equally developable into more homes, the same as this one would. My understanding is the area next to it there, that is RA1, has been RA1 for at least ten years. It has been RA1 for ten years. There has not been additional housing that has been built into that. And I look at this and I think with mister Fillmore, I understand the expense of what it takes to farm something. I understand his age because I'm in that same age category, I'm sure. And I understand that he, to my opinion, he has been as willing to compromise as I could ever expect. I think his decision to originally approach it at R-one 112 was not as much his decision as it maybe was some counsel that he was being given. I think at this point, he is looking at what feels right to him as the long term land owner to be able to take that to still one acre lots, which still have animal rights, still is set up as an RA with agricultural there, And it still remains an agricultural buffer zone. And what it does is it allows, in my mind, proper building on large one acre lots that would still allow the field. The vast majority of us, I think, that are in here, the vast majority that I think have signed the petition. And I include myself when I say the vast majority of those here are on lots that are smaller than what we are, what is being requested that he be denied or that he is requesting that he have the opportunity. They would still be larger lots than the vast majority of us, if I am correct in that thought. And he is, he has extended his intention, both in where he is going to remain living, which once he is gone, no one knows what may happen there, but he would lose far more control over what he could do, what could be done with that property after he were to depart from that property, than he is right now. Right now, in my humble opinion, one acre remaining with some agriculture being a barrier and lining up with RA-one next to him, which has been that way for ten years and has not shown a desire or a growth that seems to be the concern. And by doing so, also setting it so that it does not have the appeal to immediately become commercial or become something that is less controllable. I think, my opinion is, is that Mr. Fillmore has done a great job at trying to be as, as amenable as possible and has tried to be as accepting as possible, with the desire to still keep Smithfield the way it is. I have to agree with the statement that was made before. Losing of the small town feel within Smithfield is not going to be the fault of four homes or two homes. Three maximum additional, I think, is what we determined. More likely, maybe two. Small field is each and every one of us. And if we think that three homes are going to degrade that further, I don't think we're doing enough on our own to be able to maintain that field because I think RA one right there, properly developed, which it sounds every indication is, mister Fillmore is absolutely committed to, I think is a beautiful compromise. And I certainly think that where the r one twelve really did not fit and was not an acceptable solution, I think that's what it truly is. It's my feelings.

Brian or Clay, can you walk us through access points? Because four houses would be the maximum. If four houses was the thing that ended up happening, what are the access points to four homes? Where would they be? Just for transparency reasons, how would this be laid out if there were four homes? Where are the access points? So what have it's out of the inner block

develop well, pretty close to out of the inner block development. So it most Just south of the inner block

period area.

Yeah. So it would have to be a standard Let's let Clay talk for a second. City have to be a standard city road. Could put a cul de sac in there, but it would take up a lot of the room to put up to put in a a road, because our minimum is 60 foot, right away width. So Right. It would it would reduce that quite a bit.

That that roadway takes the the lots would still have to remain one acre plus, excluding or Correct. That is correct. Yeah. The road cannot be a part of that one acre.

And it would come out on 4th West. They would don't have the ability to take that road anywhere else. So it'd be a 60 foot road that comes from 4th West and would have to have some kind of a turnaround at the end.

So 4th West would be widened just in front of this parcel?

Yes. Because it's the only part that we can say that Right. Because it's part of the subdivision.

How far does the Union P land?

Do we know? 30 feet from the center of the railroad tracks on either side. So 60 feet from fence to fence. And our code for a subdivision requires half, half plus 10. So it would be 43 feet from their fence to the new property line. Of course, there'd be sidewalk in there, planter strip, curb and gutter.

One of the things we haven't really addressed is that in the future land use map for Smithfield, this area is designated as commercial, not agricultural. And most of the comments from the citizens have been talking about this as agricultural land and that's what it is now, certainly. But the future land use map shows it as commercial, not agricultural and not residential. And so we certainly don't have to like the the future land use map is not a binding document. It's kind of a recommendation. But as I read the the general plan for the city, it talks about this area of the city and it says, the reason this area is being planned as light industrial commercial is to allow for a buffer and the future allow for a buffer and the future development of 400 West to make this a positive area for industrial uses. The future land use map reflects the amount of future planned commercial and industrial land needed on a build up population of 32,000 persons in 2060. So that's from our general plan which is saying, essentially, our population is going to double in the next twenty to thirty years and this area of the city according to that map has been designated as used for light industrial or commercial. And so if we're gonna like, I'm just talking to my other council members here. If we're gonna designate this as residential r a one, that is a change to what the current land use map suggest. It's also a change if we're going to support and and and think of this as agricultural land going forward because that's not what the land use map says either. Now if the residents of Smithville want this to be agricultural land, five acres, three acres, one acre land. And that's the way they want this corner of town to be and I completely understand that point of view. This is my corner of town too and I like it the way it is. I walk forth west myself and that's one of my favorite beautiful out there. If that's the way we as residents of Smithfield want this, then we need to help the city plan for this to be continued agricultural territory. This is kind of the last possible corner of Smithfield that we can hold on to as agricultural land. If that's what we want, then we need to kind of make that clear to the city council, to the city planners, that that's what we want and not commercial. Because right now, it's designated as future commercial. And that's, I think, for most people who are here, that's less desirable than one acre residential lots. So I I I'm I'm I feel a little stuck between what the city has before all of us came. The city has designated as the future use of this. What we're being asked to consider tonight as future use and what the current citizens are saying they want as future use. Like, we have three different kind of things happening right here. And none of that is really easy to designate because it can't really be all three of those all at once. So I'm just throwing that out there. I'm not saying that says we should or shouldn't go one way or the other tonight. I'm just saying that should be something we consider that hasn't been addressed yet. Right. I'm just going off of the floods of emails and phone calls and text messages. And I think

things just kind of happen whether or not it's in the general plan or it's planned for that. The development just kind of happens, and everybody that I talked to said that they chose that place in Smithville to live because it is bigger lots. They do have that small town feel. It does feel like farms. So I feel like it's a case by case situation. And back to how we're gonna lay out, how we would lay this out. Flag lot's been a nightmare. I don't care what town you're in. Flag lots are are a nightmare. People do not like them. The people who have houses in front of them, I lived in a house with a house right behind us. It was a nightmare on both sides. And I just it's not everyone's favorite. It is doable. Yes. It is. It's fine. It will work, but it's not everyone's favorite. And that is, I think, a good way to ruin a hometown feel. You will have neighbors right behind each other, then we have disputes, and it causes all sorts of problems. So I think this is a case by case situation. Just something else to think about.

And maybe just, I appreciate all of your comments, maybe just kind of follow-up with what John was saying about the, general plan. The great thing is, is we're working on the general plan right now. So wouldn't it be nice if we had maybe a committee that could be involved from this, from citizens, not just us on the City Council, but if we had, representatives that would be willing to use their time to represent a quarter of, you know, if we chose four people, you know, one quadrant of of Smithfield, and help us be able to determine what we really want this to look like. And so we would have a representative, you know, from from this this part of town to kind of help us as we're working through the general plan. We did have a committee and you were on it. Yes, we did have a committee and I was on the planning commission. I wasn't a regular citizen. You and Jim were assigned to that committee? Yes. And so what I'm talking about is something different, including actual citizens that would be a part of that committee That's the to be able to give input with that. So anyways, that's just just a thought. I'm not saying that has to happen, but it would give an opportunity for citizens to have more input. We did, you know, on the general plan, originally did have an opportunity for citizens to give their input. I can tell you that input was wonderful and we looked at it, but there wasn't a single change made to the general plan because of anything that you input. So anyways, just something to think about. And obviously, it's, you know, it could be kind of up to the mayor how he wants to try to do some of this as well. If if we're interested in doing committee, I'd love to see that. But anyways, and I'm I'm not trying to change anything the way it is right now. I'm just trying to say we are working on the general plan right now. If it if, you know, if this is an opportunity, why not take advantage of it? And then a couple other items. I had a lot a lot of texts, several phone calls, and quite a few emails. And I'll just let you know, when when I took my oath of office, one of the things that I mentioned, and some of you were there, some of you weren't, but I mentioned that a wise man once said, it is not common for the voice of the people to desire anything contrary to what is right. And he also said that you should make it your business to do the voice of the people. And to me, I feel like I've kind of heard the voice of the people. Now, I'm not saying that what Brian Fillmore is trying to do is horrible and and and I think he's trying to be very reasonable. Could it impact the future? Yes, it could. And so I think the voice of the people that I'm hearing is you're you're concerned about that. And I'm just gonna tell you upfront, that's why I ran was to try to listen to the voice of the people. And you guys spoke, and and so those are those are thoughts that that I hold dear to my heart is trying to to represent you. So, yeah. Those are some of the thoughts that I have.

Yeah. It's it's been pretty clear in terms of the phone calls, emails, and texts that I've gotten over the past three or four days, where the the bulk of the opinion is. I think most of those have come from west siders. And this is a this is a challenging one for me personally because I'm I'm a twenty eight year resident here on the West Side and many of you are my long time friends. And and I stand with you and I have the same values. And I'm on the West Side because of the same reasons you're on the West Side. And and so I I stand with you that way. I also recognize that and and I and I honestly think that the the the local neighborhood should have a primary voice in how that neighborhood develops and grows or doesn't grow. I also think a landowner should be able to do what they want with their land. Right? And this is a tricky one because here's a landowner who has rights to do what they want with their land, and he has neighbors who have rights. We we might not, like, say legal rights, codified rights, but they have rights to live in the kind of neighborhood they want to live in. And that's the way we that's the reason we moved into that neighborhood. And one thing changes at a time. And sometimes it's a slow change, but it's a it's a change and that affects all of us. So this is this is a tough one. I don't for me, this has not been an easy kind of thing to wrangle with personally as I've thought about how to kind of vote on this one. I I do wanna say that, I am so grateful that we live in place where you where where our citizens are voicing their opinions. And I hope that all of you who have spoken here tonight and here tonight, the I I've been keeping track. There were six who spoke against it seven who spoke against it and four who spoke in favor of it. So again, we see where the where it's leaning in terms of the voice of the people. We also have to consider those who did not speak and not everybody who has an opinion has spoken. Right? And it's I mean, statistically, it's easier and we hear more from people who are against change than people who are for change. We have to take that into account as well. Boy, it's a it's a tough one tonight. Now let me just make one final point. I think there is an argument to be made that approving this tonight might actually serve to protect open space even though it doesn't feel that way all the time because we're taking where one home is and we're gonna put two or three homes there and it feels like we're losing open space. But if we look ten years down the road, if if we don't change this tonight and a future council comes in and says we're going to bring in light industrial or we're going to go R one twelve or whatever the case may be, we lose that open space for real then. If we make the change to R A one here and a home gets put on each of those acres with the cul de sac into that neighborhood, that's not going to get carved up any smaller ten years from now. And so in some ways, I think an argument can be made that this helps preserve large lots and open space even though it feels like it's getting smaller. So I I think we need to kind of weigh both of those as we're going. And I as I'm sitting here, I'm still weighing both of those and I really don't know where I'm gonna go yet, where I'm gonna land on this. But I'm really grateful to have heard from my neighbors and my friends and I appreciate the comments from the council tonight too.

And maybe just a couple of small items. I appreciate what you've said. You've put a lot of thought into that. A couple of things you mentioned that you know if this does you know get passed maybe it could actually help things. But I think it's also important to look at, if there were four homes, where there's one existing and three added, that would depend on who those got sold to. Those people could then immediately try to rezone those if they wanted to. So, and I know that the city doesn't care who owns these once they're bought, but looking from a neighbor standpoint, I would dare bet that probably most of the neighbors would be a lot more lenient about a rezone if they felt like that was gonna stay in the family because they knew there would be less chance of losing control of that land. And there's probably some of you neighbors who probably want to do the same thing at some point in time for your kids. I'm just guessing. But if if the purpose of this, and I'm not trying to say what Brian's trying to do, but if the purpose of this is to sell it, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing to someone that's not part of his family, that might make a difference on the on the neighbors feel of things, if that makes sense. So and then the other thing that I still have an issue with is it doesn't fix 400 West. That is still that is still a problem. And this is doesn't even relate, but I do wanna say, some of you guys have said that, you know, we've lost the small town feel. We haven't lost the small town feel. And I'm just gonna say, the small town feel is where people choose to do that. And I'm just gonna be really honest. On my side of the town, there's probably less people who are waving than the times that I've gone over here to this 400 West, 400 South area. When I've gone over there, everybody has been waving to me. And so, there really is a difference, maybe even in different parts of the town, because of how people feel like they're living. And so obviously, you know, this is valuable to the neighbors in that area. Thanks.

Is it sorry. What is it am I able to ask a question of clarification from mister Downes? Yes. Okay. Just a point of clarification, we we received the, the petition with the signatures. I just wanted to clarify, was the petition written before or after the zoning request was changed from one twelve to RA 1? And were the signatures were any or a portion of the signatures gained before or after the decision to go from RA 112 to RA 1? Everything was after that was denied. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

I think we're all in agreement that 400 West is a significant issue. Right? The safety and the the room there is a significant issue and that definitely needs to be weighed. I my my home that I live in was built a 100 and almost a hundred and thirty years ago. It was the second home built on the block. So there were two homes on a 10 acre block. And if somebody then had said, we're not ever gonna change this, then there wouldn't be 15 or 16 or 17 homes on my block now. Right? That that's and I'm on 2nd West. That's kind of close to the center of town and that's changed over the last hundred years. Right? In the next twenty to fifty years, 4th West might feel like the center of town also. Right? We're we're getting to a point where we're growing by leaps and bounds and that's not going to change. We can't stop growth. We can't stop the need of it. We just have to manage it well. And and so I I keep thinking, if we were to say as a citizens, as we were to say, we want this corner of town to be large lots, open space as much as possible, large yards and gardens and animal rights, well, that would and if we could kind of lock in a precedent for that and hold that line for the west Southwest corner of town, that that sure be something in and maybe twenty, thirty, forty years from now, we could hold on to that. That that would be really valuable. And maybe you wouldn't end up with a block like my block with houses on quarter acre lots. And I expect in the next five five years, there's gonna be another half a dozen homes built on my block. And that's the reality of where I live. And I know that's how it's gonna be. Things things change and things are gonna grow. And we can't stop it. But I think we need to do it in a measured and careful way. This might be a a really measured way to do it. It's it's hard. It's really hard to say. Right? One thing I know for sure that as human beings, we are really, really, really bad at predicting the future accurately. We're really awful at that. Like, the research is very clear about that. So it's hard to say what the future is gonna But I think we also know that growth is going to happen and significant growth. Like this is this is this is gonna be a town of 30,000 people here by 2050. That's and that's we gotta find room for twice as many people somehow. But maybe maybe we can hold on to the Southwest corner of town with some open space. I'd like to hope for that.

And maybe just in conjunction with what you're saying, talking with, you know talking about the general plan, a lot of times we're talking about different zoning and that kind of stuff. Very little is often talked about preserving open space. And unfortunately, open space, a lot of times is farmland and that sometimes gets sold in big chunks. And so a lot of times that's where that sometimes ends up being where the growth ends up happening. It's because someone passes away and it goes that the kids have to sell it, and they sell it out of the family. And and then all of a sudden, you've just changed the whole atmosphere of that area. I would just say, you know, if we're interested in trying to pursue what we really wanna have, that we actually try to make that reflect what we have on the general plan. And that we actually have a discussion about an area in Smithfield. Probably would be okay if we had at least one area right now. That Southwest Side is probably about the only, one of the last places that that is possible that we that we designate that on the on the general plan. Just some thoughts.

Any other comments? Are we ready to put this to a vote?

I would I would make a motion that we deny ordinance twenty twenty five dash twenty twenty seven on agenda item four.

So we can take a vote. Yeah. How do you vote, John?

So the vote is to deny. So it would be a yes for So yes to deny it and no to well, we can't we can't approve it with a no. All you're saying is yes to deny.

No.

Chris? Yes.

Jen?

Yes.

Todd? No.

Mayor? Welcome. Yes.

Okay.

So so just for clarification, it was denied by a vote of three to two. Correct.

We'd like to move now to Justin for a selection of the mayor for temporary for calendar year 2026.

So council each year, we've we select Mayor Pro Tempore, which in essence is when the mayor is unavailable for a city council meeting or to attend other meetings, they would they would fill in in that. If you look at state code, if you wanted to go from that, 10 dash three b dash three zero two says, if the mayor is absent or unable or refuses to act, the council may elect a member of the council as mayor pro attempt to preside at a council meeting and perform during the mayor's absence, disability, or refusal to act the duties and functions of the mayor. In our case, we've been had really good mayors, really good councils. We haven't had to deal with a lot of that. The main thing would be that they would preside over meetings or attend meetings on behalf if the mayor is not available. The council does vote on this. Each one of you has a little sticky to vote on if you need a pen. If you would select the name of a fellow council member, we will need to get three yeses or three this one of you with this. It's got to be the same name for three of you. So, it may require more than one vote. If needed, we'll do that. But at this time, if each one of you would select someone for and this would be for calendar year 2026.

Question of clarification. Do you want to also have us put our name on this? No. Okay.

Todd has been selected for calendar year 2026.

Thank you. Now we'd like to move on to the discussion on the general plan update.

So, Mayor, and those in attendance. So since 2024, we've been working on a general plan update. Just as a short summary, we started off with a steering committee that had about a dozen different members of the community in there. Eventually, it transitioned off to the planning commission. The camp planning commission worked on it for a few months and now it's come forth to the council. At this time council, we're not asking you to vote on anything tonight. We're looking for a plan of how we want the council would like to see this moving forward in 2026 as a staff. We would hope this wouldn't take a year to make work its way through because we're working with some older data. We're hoping that we could the nice part about the general plan is any part of it can be updated at any time. So we're asking for your guidance of how you how do you wanna tackle this. So eventually, it is going to need a public hearing. Eventually, it is going to need a vote of the council. But as far as the document itself, we have we have been made aware of some some typos and stuff in there that we still need to correct. We appreciate a planning commission member that gave those to us. We we still need to make those. But as far as the document itself moving forward, what do you guys want to see? Moving forward, what do you guys want to see? Like I say, eventually, you've got to have a public hearing or we will have a public hearing and the council will vote. What's your vision or how do you want to proceed with this? Obviously, based on the discussion of rezones, there's maps and stuff under consideration. The whole document's under consideration. But what's how do you want us to lay that out as we as a staff start to put that together to bring that forward to you over the next few months?

How close is it? I mean, is it other than the typos, how close is it to being

the draft being completed? It's ready. Like, in reality, you could hold a public hearing and vote next month, but the council hasn't really looked at It's just come from the planning commission. So it could be voted on as early as next month.

Seems to me we ought to have at least a month to look at it and have any further discussion next month as we've looked at it in February with a possible vote in March. I don't know if we feel like we need more time than that, but I don't wanna sit on it either. I Yeah. If it's close to ready then So you you could have a couple options based on how you guys feel. I mean, obviously, there's still some changes.

We could review it. We could review it again as a council in February. You could hold the public hearing in March. If you wanted to wait to see what comments you got out of that, you could then vote on it in April or you could vote on it in March. It's what your comfort level is. Like I say, though, one bet the bet the one I sing about it, every bit of it subject to change. The draft is available to the public right now. Is it not correct? So it's been on it's been on the website since November. Right. The current one other there are a couple of typos. We have not updated that so that when about the document, everybody's looking at the same thing. Yes. It's it's out there. It's available right now. Has been for a few months. What you're considering is is that document. Right. So it's readily available for everybody to look at right now. 100%. Yeah.

So, and I kinda have mixed feelings on this, having been on the Planning Commission, now moving over to the City Council. There's been some opportunities for us to kinda review this general plan. And I get it. Probably the original plan wasn't necessarily to try to revamp everything on this general plan, but just kind of maybe do some updates and move it forward. But originally it was only planned to have two meetings with JUB engineers and then we ended up needing three. And in my opinion I just felt like that really wasn't even enough to really cover what we really needed the general plan. But that could just be me. I'm a detail guy and I know there's someone out in the audience that's a member of the planning commission, Jim. I think he felt kind of the same way that, you know, you wanted to kind of dig into it and make sure that if we're gonna, you know, look at this, let's actually look at it and have it really reflect what we really want it to to be. And you're good with your input? Okay. Sounds good. So anyways, part of me wants to move this forward. I don't really want to have it be staying in JUBs and and then paying them money to, you know, do updates, that kind of stuff. But I am really interested in maybe looking at as we move forward, you know, maybe we maybe we allow this general plan and say, hey, we're at a stopping point. But I really think that we should really look at having kind of an ongoing review of that. And that's where I think in some respects, we could have kind of a committee that's looking at different parts of that over time. And we could maybe pick little pieces of the general plan and it could be updated incrementally, instead of the way we're doing it now, where we're trying to do the whole beast. That was a lot to go through to really kinda and so like I said, I feel like I really didn't get a chance to, you know what I mean, dig down as deep as I wanted. But not everybody's that way. So those are just some of my thoughts.

Just a question for clarification, Justin. If we at the point when we vote to say, yes, we accept this plan. We're not saying this won't change for another year. We're simply saying this we approve this today. We expect that changes will come in time

and then next year, we'll do another vote. Is that how that works? No. So it'll go into place till you wanna update it. But here's the fact whether we like it or not. It's out of date the day after it's adopted. And there are big factors in there that make that update. Let's you what what is I will use one example. There is an ecclesiastical facility on 8th West. The second that was announced, that general plan in that part of the city became, for better of a lack of word, worthless. Because everything that had been planned thought, throw it out. Anything could be proposed in a different section of town and voted on and the council elects to make a rezone that is different than that. That whole thing changes instantly. Recommendation is, should we look at at maps and should we be changing that all the time in small sections? Yes. It is a it is a lot easier to look at a small section than look at a 100 page document. Like, let's be honest, it is. We got a grant. The reason have we have gone through that. So is it is it subject to change at all times? Yes. It is a guide. It is not set in stone. It like tonight with this with the rezone, that's when the council decided. Anybody can propose anything, like the general plan is simply a guide or a document. And so could you change it you could change it the following month. You could amend it every single month if that's what you wanted to do. But you're typically doing that through rezones, through through that type of thing. So, it's a leaving, breathing document, but it's also not a set in stone document. We didn't pay to do a complete revamp. A complete revamp would have we would have spent a significant amount more money than we did. We did some updates. That's why you still see some of the pictures from the past. You know, we tried to pick the things like the water conservation part of it had to be updated. Like, that was state code. So we did that. Is that subject to change? Yeah, it is. So it's a guide to document. We would love to see it come through in the next, you know, few months. We're not asking for it to be approved next month, but we would love to see it approved and then start focusing on parts of it. As Chris said, you know, maybe the first thing we're looking at is we're looking at the Southwest Corner or we're looking at the zoning map because we don't like where we wanna change. And you can change it now, you know, commercial down in in that area of town. We wanna make some adjustments there. You have the ability to do that for sure. So it's it's just how you guys kind of a timeline so we can work on work on it. We would love to see you go through it. Love to have a discussion next month. I would really like to have the public hearing in March and and and go through that again to see what the residents input are. If you ask me my timeline, my timeline would be we would discuss it as a staff. You would discuss it in February. You would have a public hearing in March, and you wouldn't vote on it till April. That way, if you you could take the comments you got in March and see what you wanna do or not do with those or make some make some changes.

I'd like to propose that we

is this a motion or not? No, no, no. This is a proposal, not a motion.

My my suggestion There you go. My my personal preference, my leanings would be that we, as a council, make a concerted effort between now and our meeting in February to look at that and document what kind of questions we have. And then, can we arrange to have JUB there again?

I would have them come, yes. They need to be able to clarify areas that we just

purposes, not, you know, make sure we're not taking their feed, but they're there for answers to where we could get ourselves close enough that then, yes, March, we have

public hearings. Todd, would it be helpful to have like a a running document that they can look at, so they can be prepared to what we're gonna ask them? You know, they can type in?

Yeah. I mean, here what I like, you could send you could send me your comments of stuff you want them to specifically address. I would put it in one document and they would already know upfront. Here's some specific areas we wanna talk about or have questions on. It would be in fairness to them if any give them time to prepare. Obviously, there's gonna be questions on the fly during that meeting, which is fine. But, yeah, anything that you see that comes up,

we would love to have those put it together in one, give it to them in advance of the meeting, and then have them come. That's that's a great example, because that's, I think, one of the problems we had the other two times that he came is maybe we didn't, he didn't really, you know, he was just fielding questions right then. And, but, also, I did spend a significant amount of time going through each version. And I did check the very latest version of the things that I was asking to be changed. And then I've basically done, you know, kind of a comment on which things actually changed, or if they didn't change, or how they changed, they may be changed a little bit differently. If you guys are interested, I could send you or have Justin send that out to you, send you or have Justin send that out to you, just so that that can kind of help you see some of the things that I was kind of saying, maybe still needed to be revisited. Now, a lot of those already got taken care of, but there's still a few that that didn't.

I was gonna suggest originally a Google Doc that was live, but that could stay live until last minute. That's probably your idea, I think, is I believe is better. Okay. Are you guys okay with that? Mhmm. Yeah. Okay. We'll

I'd like to also challenge the constituency to go review this. If there's things you don't like or give your feedback, I'd I'd love to hear from you. Yep.

Yeah. Reach out to any of us. Yep.

Yeah. That's what we're here for is to listen to you. So this gives you an opportunity to to be engaged.

And if we could have those comments at least a week before the February 11 meeting just to give them an opportunity to gather some info.

If we just call it February 1? That would be great.

Move to the city manager report.

Okay. Just a couple of things, council. So back in the well, in the current budget, we have the council approved an update to the personnel manual. We need to get in legal compliance on things like FMLA and maternity leave and medical marijuana and some of those things. So, we contracted with, we did some searching, found out that the the law firm Manning Curtis Bradshaw and Bednar, specifically Matt Church at that firm, is a human human resources guru. We asked them to go through it and tell us how to be legal. They have come back, you are going to get a document that is going to be there is going to be two versions. There is going to be the red line version, like the 150 page version and then there's the clean version. Some people wanna see red line, some wanna just see proposal. What it doesn't include is it includes the legal updates where we need, but what it does not include is it doesn't include the changes to things like holidays, which are what we control, PTO schedule, which is what we control. So when you see that one, you know why you're seeing it, you have to adopt it because you have to adopt those changes. But we will be bringing that forward if you have comments, if you see typos, because it is a complete revamp. It's a complete change. So, working with the department heads, department heads have had some comments and stuff on it that we're gonna try and incorporate. But any significant changes, like, we would bring to you and go, okay, council, We have a concern. Like, we wanted to change the PTO. And I'm not saying right now that's even on the list. But the things that are under our control, that type of stuff, we would be like counsel, here's some proposed changes. But we have all the legal stuff. It's not based on our opinion. It's based on the law and we need to comply to some of those things, like medical marijuana, are not in our are not in our manual. So when you see that, when you get it, you'll understand why that will circle back to the council. Eventually, the council will vote on that. But we just wanted you to know where we were in the process. We got it last month. We just waited till this month till the new council and mayor were in place so that we could start working that through over the next little bit. So just an FYI there. That's all I have on that part. The office will be closed on Monday in observance of Martin Luther King Junior Day. We have started working with Department heads on gathering information for the new budget, which goes into effect on July 1. But the first presentation to the council will be in March. I believe it's March 25. All the department heads will be here. We'll have a budget specific meeting, then we'll talk a bit talk about it again in April and May, have a public hearing in May, and then a vote of the council. Council, you're going to start seeing from me employee spotlights from each department. We have a lot of new faces on the council there. We want you to know who your employees are. So you're going to start to see a couple little fun things come across. We've asked them a couple little personal questions that kind of fun. So, when you see that come across, we just want you to know about the employees of the city. As far as projects we have going on, the tank, the new 3,000,000 gallon tank project is moving forward. They'll probably they'll be starting the spring with completion. They're stating by September. The we talked to Jay Clay talked to JUB today to get an update on the spring line project up the canyon phase one, which is the part that's in the county. We finally got comments back from the county. We're hoping to take that to bid phase one of two, take that to bid in February or March. The big stormwater project on 10th South from basically the highway to 12th West and then the new retention pond. We're looking at bidding phase one, which will be to the railroad tracks also in February, March timeline. So, we can get those done in this fiscal year. So, those three big projects are moving forward. Just a non, like, just kind of a fun fact, when you talk about sewer flow for fiscal year twenty five, two hundred and forty eight point five million gallons of sewage flowed from Smithfield into the Logan system that treats it for us. 248,500,000. So that is an average of 20,710,000 gallons per month from Smithfield City. So just a fun little fact that has no bearing on anything. We expect you to bring fun facts every council meeting, Justin. I didn't have it for fluffle or something like Wade or whatever that was. He's over from Wade. So So like we had to have some worthless tidbit for tonight to add in here at the end. I I was a little worried John was gonna say he wanted you to bring a sample. So hey, we do sampling all the time. So so there you go. So but unless you have any questions council meeting. Comments tonight, I don't have anything else tonight.

Just a point of clarification, is there any timelines on that personnel manual update? No. It's just slowly it will work its way through.

And and did you did you say, will we be able to look at both versions, like the old version, the new version, or will it be red lined or how will we, you know, I mean So there's

there's the two version. There's the red line and then there's the clean one, which all it is, the clean one is just Just the new stuff. All the red lines out. So that way you can review whichever one you feel is better or easier to read because it's long and tedious. Yeah. So I'm like, we'll send both, but they're identical. Assume the documents other than one just shows a bunch of x's out and then the other one shows the the changes. Thanks.

Move on to the Council member reports. Start with Todd. Okay.

Swing this over here. Real quick report, we'll go to Tree Committee first. We just met last night. We've got a few additional changes, alterations, clarifications, etc. That we will be gathering and reproposing. We'll be looking at that next month and then it will probably come to the council again for an approval to be able to make those changes in the code. Nothing nothing too dramatic, but but a little bit of clarification. But the group is alive and well. They're preparing for this next year's contest for the Arbor Day, getting everything ready, looking at budget to be able to maximize trees that we can be able to help get into the city and continue to stay with with our Tree City U. S. A. Classification. So very healthy group and we'll be getting those changes. Nothing recently new from the Historical Society other than we are continuing to make progress bit by bit over at the Douglas Mercantile across the street from here. And certainly, it's going to be something that we can be proud of. And there will, you know, any any input, any additional questions, any things that you might have that you think might be a particular import and possibly an article for that museum that might be special, talk to me about it. Let me know your feelings about it because we'd we'd love to see that, see that. But that group is alive and well as well and we're grateful for them. So we've got a great history here and we look forward to being able to truly showcase it. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. We'll start with the seniors. They're doing awesome. They're just tickled pink about getting their new flooring and their new ceiling. They just are so excited. I got to go yesterday. They're very thrilled with their monthly update. I did just ask that the a little bit bigger font. I already talked to her about it. She'll get that taken care of, but they do enjoy that. They're doing awesome. And they told me to tell you, thank you. And they're excited to have you come in a couple weeks. Oh, it's gonna be amazing. I can't hardly wait to speak.

On a side note, up there as well as part of that project, so LED lights, new ceiling tiles, and we're actually replacing the chairs.

The tables will stay. The chairs are being replaced. They did ask me about that and how the chairs and the table are going to work on this new floor. They're worried about them scratching. Yes. So the new

the new lifetime chairs will help make that not a problem. Perfect. The chairs will be picked up. So this project will happen. Monday starts Monday, February 2. It will be that week. We're picking up the chairs that week, so that they can just be moved in at once. But, yeah. Pretty significant changes up there from ceilings to floors to chairs to and there'll be it'll be a 100 chairs, 100 new

chairs. Perfect. K. They are so excited about that. The Health Days ambassador pageant is scheduled for March 7 at 7PM at the Skyview Auditorium. They're still taking applications. Our numbers are low this year, so we're trying to figure out how to get the word out there. I know the signs have been there. I recommended maybe we move the signs because people become complacent after seeing signs in places for so long. We'll try and announce it more at the high school. Anyway, we are still, we, there's no cap on the amount of applicants that we take. So if you know any high school, Skyview High School. Well, it doesn't have to be Skyview, just Smithfield resident girls. We are looking to increase our numbers there. I we are going to incorporate the America two fifty celebration into that, just with our decorations and just a couple fun ideas. Walmart donated a $150 towards decorations for the pageant stage, so that's something that will be very beneficial there. They are one of the sponsors for this, so that was very awesome that they did that. And the arts council that were just with the new year, we just put in a new co chair that will take over next year when Mike is filled his time. And we'll be doing more planning for our summer events here in the next couple weeks or months.

Thank you. Move to John.

Chamber of Commerce met earlier this month. Good meeting. Good businesses. It it snowed that day so the the auto wrecker and the physical therapy people were looking forward to increased business because of snow on the roads and back strains and but they reported on their Christmas gifts, the the night of giving. And they told me the number of presents and homes and people they bought for and I failed to write it down. But I bet it was in the neighborhood of 248,000,000 gallons, Justin. So but good stuff. It was a it really, really super successful and they had a local LDS award of young adults do all the wrapping and delivering and they did it all in one night and it was like magic Christmas kind of stuff. So it was a hugely successful event. In terms of the trails committee, we heard from the county that there are some trails grants available. So if any members of the public are interested in participating on the trails committee and have ideas about what kind of trails we want to further develop, there might be money available to help develop some trails. So please don't hesitate to reach out to me or anyone on the trails committee. But our kind of our focus for the next year or so is to work on that Bonneville Shoreline Trail Extension down here in the Smithfield. Thanks.

And I haven't been given any official assignments yet, but I just kind of ran with it because I knew there was a meeting for the Smithfield City Youth Council. And it just so happens that I knew that because my wife kind of helps out with that group. So just quickly, would love to kind of and and we had two of them here today to kind of get tell us a little bit about what they're doing. But we've got about 30 of those kids and they're and they're doing a phenomenal job. When I went to that meeting, it was very evident that they really get aligned together and that's something that's been mentioned that, you know, over the past years, you've had different groups, but this year they've really gotten along really well and are doing a great job. They had an opportunity to help out with the night of giving. So the Smithfield City Youth Council kinda helped out with that, some of that. And so that December ends up being kind of a busy time for them. I do think it would be awesome if we could take the summer off as a City Council like the Smithfield City Youth Council does. Maybe we need to make a motion. I don't know, what you think, Justin? Just just kidding. But anyways, they're they're they're doing a great job, doing good things. And they usually do service projects and they're usually helping out with a lot of the other different committees that are going on. And as they mentioned, they'll also be kind of helping with the America two fifty Smithfield events that are happening as well. So, just appreciate what they're doing there. And just one other item, not necessarily anything that I'm assigned to, but I think it's important for you guys to know that there's actually three of us on the council, Jen, the mayor, and myself, who are all part of the America two fifty Committee. And that's really, Lisa is is the chair of that committee, and she's doing a great job. She's just she's gung ho, and she's she's not afraid to delegate a little bit and and try to make some things happen, But the whole idea behind the America two fifty is celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth year of the Declaration of Independence. And so as a city, I think it's really great that we've kind of embraced this. And so each month, there's gonna be activities. If you haven't had a chance, there's some printouts that I left in the back that kinda give a schedule of what's happening up until July. And a lot of fun ideas that people have come up with and and I think it's great, great way to be able to remember our heritage. So thank you.

So I've been, officially now here one week. So, I'm super excited, engaged. I want to let everybody know, I'm not sure if you're aware of the the fire district, the things that are going on in the county. I have applied to be on the board. They will vote on the county council will vote on that at the next meeting. So I'll be a representative for the for Smithfield on the North End of the valley for the the fire district. Jay, do you have any comments about that right now? I know that it's all still kind of up in the air, but

Not really. Just that he's a board of trustees, and they're gonna be making some decisions on their on their bylaws and stuff that could affect what we do here. We'll be bringing more forth information when that happens.

Thank you. We are I'm in the process of working through forming some new committees, changing around a couple of the things that the county or the excuse me, the city council is members are involved in, still making some Still making some assignments there. We'll work through those, so we'll announce those as they come. But excited to be here. Thank you for your support.

Can I can I say one more thing? You bet. I just I just wanna commend our new mayor because he's making some changes that haven't, we haven't had the opportunity in the past. And one of them happened tonight. You guys are here, had an opportunity to see that now our meetings are gonna be a little bit more open, that we're actually gonna allow citizen input on on any agenda item that you guys wanna give your input on. And so hopefully, we can help gain the trust of Smithfield residents and let you know that we actually really care about you guys and and what you think. And we really would love to have you be engaged. And so opening this up is a great opportunity for you guys to be able to let us know how we can help you.

And I we do appreciate your input. I know that that was probably fielded about 30 emails and texts over the last twenty four hours, which I know we all have. But we I do really value that and we do value that. So I just want you to know it's it doesn't fall on deaf ears. So we do appreciate that input. So any other comments? Anybody have anything else to say?

I'd like to make a motion. We adjourn.