Nibley City Planning Commission
2026-06-12
You keeping up? What's that? You keeping up on life. On life? Yeah.
You keeping up? What's that? You keeping up on life. On life? Yeah.
Sure. Why not? I'll say yes. Good.
Sure. Why not? I'll say yes. Good.
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No. Really not. We're not. We're not in the things. Yeah. It's all about this. It's just
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Okay. So I'm in Had a chat with Emily last night. Rigby.
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Oh, did you? Yeah. Catch up last night. Every year, my wife volunteers me to because we did a children's theater. Okay. And you have to volunteer to do it. Alright? Yes. You do. And I
this is how I actually got to this. So I'm determined. What happened? Was
this is how I actually got to this. So I'm determined. What happened? Was
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does. PM on the Oh, it does. So, yeah, I was there once again for my third year in a row putting the Ashley. Curtain structure up. Fourth year maybe now.
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down to a a doc. This one? I was division Should we table
down to a a doc. This one? I was division Should we table
disposable I don't even very I'm just telling.
disposable I don't even very I'm just telling.
By table, you mean tell me what I can afford. Kill it. Yeah. Nineteen days. I live right there. I don't want They put it on the table, and no one wants to take it off. Oh, no. Yeah. It's actually killed. Yeah.
By table, you mean tell me what I can afford. Kill it. Yeah. Nineteen days. I live right there. I don't want They put it on the table, and no one wants to take it off. Oh, no. Yeah. It's actually killed. Yeah.
I don't like that motion. Is it just sneaking out of kills them? Should we kill it or not kill it? They don't bite anybody. Any beats. That's the smile. They just did. Okay. We learned we don't need to do that. Is that Yes. Yes. Potentials. It's up for discussion. It's up for discussion. I'm telling you. I
I don't like that motion. Is it just sneaking out of kills them? Should we kill it or not kill it? They don't bite anybody. Any beats. That's the smile. They just did. Okay. We learned we don't need to do that. Is that Yes. Yes. Potentials. It's up for discussion. It's up for discussion. I'm telling you. I
Yeah. So Justin's proposing a Man, you said no text. You're fine.
Yeah. So Justin's proposing a Man, you said no text. You're fine.
No offense. Okay. So let me We should be logging that. Then we could Yeah. I do. So these two have never actually been brought up because they're brand new every time we discuss the budget. Fifteen minutes. Just to set that Okay. So,
No offense. Okay. So let me We should be logging that. Then we could Yeah. I do. So these two have never actually been brought up because they're brand new every time we discuss the budget. Fifteen minutes. Just to set that Okay. So,
I mean, tabling it still had to announce I mean, the main the main sales. Sell. But, you know Or enables us to Continue indefinitely. Right? Yeah. We are raising So we can We had enough money in the rental or not. On each item Is that right? No. Okay. We can Okay. We're we're gonna take it out this out. Second.
I mean, tabling it still had to announce I mean, the main the main sales. Sell. But, you know Or enables us to Continue indefinitely. Right? Yeah. We are raising So we can We had enough money in the rental or not. On each item Is that right? No. Okay. We can Okay. We're we're gonna take it out this out. Second.
I think he's got that leaner, more obvious to the Oh, yes. That's this is the One thing I had I was curious about was suddenly we had an extra million dollars in the general fund. I'm like, where did that come from? That would be news to me. By your
I think he's got that leaner, more obvious to the Oh, yes. That's this is the One thing I had I was curious about was suddenly we had an extra million dollars in the general fund. I'm like, where did that come from? That would be news to me. By your
ask my customers. And let the record show that all council members. So that's where I got a little bit I was I'm just gonna let this play out. I just know I'm Prove it. Every ordinance or resolution, we need a roll call.
ask my customers. And let the record show that all council members. So that's where I got a little bit I was I'm just gonna let this play out. I just know I'm Prove it. Every ordinance or resolution, we need a roll call.
Decisions. Every matter of I know. But
Decisions. Every matter of I know. But
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now it's been said That's worse. That's just the fable England and all that. He had an He freaks, but then it when the tax raise, but So you're saying You don't need table, we can We're not doing it, I thought.
I'm doing it. It says. Do a roll call. Yeah. This should be put on our record. Oh, okay.
I'm doing it. It says. Do a roll call. Yeah. This should be put on our record. Oh, okay.
What, captain? Budget. Oh, cap. For summer league? Yeah. So are you a new captain? See,
What, captain? Budget. Oh, cap. For summer league? Yeah. So are you a new captain? See,
it says item 11 still says Capping. Includes a puppy decorating. Yeah.
it says item 11 still says Capping. Includes a puppy decorating. Yeah.
He's been flirting with the idea of doing men's summer league. He does say that. But then
He's been flirting with the idea of doing men's summer league. He does say that. But then
But then he says we're not love. I thought I read devil. That's why I was like He doesn't give him a word. She doesn't. We don't can't.
But then he says we're not love. I thought I read devil. That's why I was like He doesn't give him a word. She doesn't. We don't can't.
And unite, ladies and gentlemen, staff. We appreciate you being here on a very special Thursday. So before we call the meeting to order, we'll give council member Nick Kinska a chance to
And unite, ladies and gentlemen, staff. We appreciate you being here on a very special Thursday. So before we call the meeting to order, we'll give council member Nick Kinska a chance to
inspire us. Sure. Yeah. Good. I'll do my best. So I just wanted to kinda talk a little bit about this next week, Heritage Days, which is something great that Nibley puts on. And we should all feel so thankful that we have the staff and and the volunteer groups that we do to make that week so special. In fact, for me personally, I was just telling council member Spalding this. In so many ways, heritage days and my wife volunteering me every year for the last four years to go set up the little curtain thing for the children's theater is actually why I'm here, frankly, is is because of that experience and meeting people and getting to know Nibali six years ago as as someone who just moved to the community and and have always felt so welcomed to be a part of Nibbly. And like I said, this in so many ways, that's exactly why I'm here today, frankly. And so it's it's a special week. I'd encourage anyone listening or who will listen to go look at the agenda and make sure you're participating and meeting others. And once again, it's just something that makes Nibley special that not every community has. And I just wanted to share a quick quote from Henry Ford about just the sense of community. He said, coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress, and working together is success. And I think that embodies Nibley as a city and a community perfectly. So with that, we'll, say the
inspire us. Sure. Yeah. Good. I'll do my best. So I just wanted to kinda talk a little bit about this next week, Heritage Days, which is something great that Nibley puts on. And we should all feel so thankful that we have the staff and and the volunteer groups that we do to make that week so special. In fact, for me personally, I was just telling council member Spalding this. In so many ways, heritage days and my wife volunteering me every year for the last four years to go set up the little curtain thing for the children's theater is actually why I'm here, frankly, is is because of that experience and meeting people and getting to know Nibali six years ago as as someone who just moved to the community and and have always felt so welcomed to be a part of Nibbly. And like I said, this in so many ways, that's exactly why I'm here today, frankly. And so it's it's a special week. I'd encourage anyone listening or who will listen to go look at the agenda and make sure you're participating and meeting others. And once again, it's just something that makes Nibley special that not every community has. And I just wanted to share a quick quote from Henry Ford about just the sense of community. He said, coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress, and working together is success. And I think that embodies Nibley as a city and a community perfectly. So with that, we'll, say the
allegiance. I pledge the pledge of allegiance to The United States Of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under our God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
allegiance. I pledge the pledge of allegiance to The United States Of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under our God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you, Nick. With that, we'll call the meeting to order and begin with the roll call. Randy, please. Randy Spalding. Nick Kentska.
Thank you, Nick. With that, we'll call the meeting to order and begin with the roll call. Randy, please. Randy Spalding. Nick Kentska.
Nathan Lowerson. And I'm Larry Jacobson.
Nathan Lowerson. And I'm Larry Jacobson.
Staff Justin Monibley, city manager.
Staff Justin Monibley, city manager.
Amy Johnson, treasurer. Steve Eliason, public works director. Chad Wright, recreation director. I didn't mess it up. K. Thank you all for coming. Good to see you, Greg. We need to give you a title. Council, if you'd turn your attention to the May 28 minutes and tonight's agenda, I would appreciate it.
Amy Johnson, treasurer. Steve Eliason, public works director. Chad Wright, recreation director. I didn't mess it up. K. Thank you all for coming. Good to see you, Greg. We need to give you a title. Council, if you'd turn your attention to the May 28 minutes and tonight's agenda, I would appreciate it.
Nathan? Give you a motion to approve with yeah. I'll just give you a motion to approve. K. On both minutes and agenda?
Nathan? Give you a motion to approve with yeah. I'll just give you a motion to approve. K. On both minutes and agenda?
That's it. Yeah. Okay. So I have a motion for meeting minute approval and tonight's agenda. A second from Nick. Discussion on the motion, please. Yeah. Nathan? Just had a few
That's it. Yeah. Okay. So I have a motion for meeting minute approval and tonight's agenda. A second from Nick. Discussion on the motion, please. Yeah. Nathan? Just had a few
kinda minor things in the in the minutes that I wasn't able to send beforehand, be able to review. So I don't know if you want them line by line, but they're just spelling errors. So I don't know what would be useful for you at this point, Larry. Like
kinda minor things in the in the minutes that I wasn't able to send beforehand, be able to review. So I don't know if you want them line by line, but they're just spelling errors. So I don't know what would be useful for you at this point, Larry. Like
I asked council's consent to correct those errors. Is there objection? Being not. So? K. Awesome then. And then we need to vote on the motion to accept corrected minutes in tonight's agenda. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Thank you. We move to public comment period. This is a time for Nibley citizens or others to address the Nibley City Council on city manners matters. Seeing no public comment, we will move on to we'll skip the planning commission report. Levi's not here on this special meeting, so we'll skip that with council's approval, consent. K. Skip that. Let's do staff reports. Steve, do you wanna talk?
I asked council's consent to correct those errors. Is there objection? Being not. So? K. Awesome then. And then we need to vote on the motion to accept corrected minutes in tonight's agenda. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Thank you. We move to public comment period. This is a time for Nibley citizens or others to address the Nibley City Council on city manners matters. Seeing no public comment, we will move on to we'll skip the planning commission report. Levi's not here on this special meeting, so we'll skip that with council's approval, consent. K. Skip that. Let's do staff reports. Steve, do you wanna talk?
How about now? Goodness gracious. I apologize. That's the one I knew how to do. K. Moving on then. The red one that you can see there, it was not in the original agenda item packet that you looked at. This was just a late addition as of yesterday with the accountant. This basically just transfers $200 paying out of the capital projects into, out of impact fees instead, if that makes sense. So it's just shifting where the money comes from. It's not more money or, another expense. It's just a a journal entry to show that it comes out of the impact fee fund instead of the capital projects. Any questions there?
How about now? Goodness gracious. I apologize. That's the one I knew how to do. K. Moving on then. The red one that you can see there, it was not in the original agenda item packet that you looked at. This was just a late addition as of yesterday with the accountant. This basically just transfers $200 paying out of the capital projects into, out of impact fees instead, if that makes sense. So it's just shifting where the money comes from. It's not more money or, another expense. It's just a a journal entry to show that it comes out of the impact fee fund instead of the capital projects. Any questions there?
Nope. I got a question, Justin. Please. So, I mean, I miss I have to imagine the where we get more revenue than we think and, you know, we spend less on what we get. That happens. And you mentioned that you're trying to tone in so we have less and less of that, but it'll it'll happen organically as it happens. Right? So that just goes into capital improvements. And how do we how do we what does that get earmarked? Is it just go to the total fund Yep. And then it just happens to go Yep. Our CapEx has a fund balance. Yeah. And that fund balance is,
Nope. I got a question, Justin. Please. So, I mean, I miss I have to imagine the where we get more revenue than we think and, you know, we spend less on what we get. That happens. And you mentioned that you're trying to tone in so we have less and less of that, but it'll it'll happen organically as it happens. Right? So that just goes into capital improvements. And how do we how do we what does that get earmarked? Is it just go to the total fund Yep. And then it just happens to go Yep. Our CapEx has a fund balance. Yeah. And that fund balance is,
I think close to 4,000,000 off of memory. The fund balance sits there, and then we take that balance, and we kinda assign where it goes and all the lines throughout the budget. So this doesn't assign it to any project or anything. It just puts it into that account. Yeah.
I think close to 4,000,000 off of memory. The fund balance sits there, and then we take that balance, and we kinda assign where it goes and all the lines throughout the budget. So this doesn't assign it to any project or anything. It just puts it into that account. Yeah.
And and through the proposed budget, we'll have already had a proposed Correct. Budget for account. So this is new money essentially. Yeah. It just changes the beginning balance, actually. Okay. Makes sense.
And and through the proposed budget, we'll have already had a proposed Correct. Budget for account. So this is new money essentially. Yeah. It just changes the beginning balance, actually. Okay. Makes sense.
Just curious. Yep. No. Thank you.
Just curious. Yep. No. Thank you.
I can't quite see the 200 what did you say $200? $2,200,000
I can't quite see the 200 what did you say $200? $2,200,000
thousand dollars out of impact fees instead of capital projects. Thank you. K. So if I could you know, I'd appreciate maybe two motions here. One, to include the street impact fee adjustment and with approval of the resolution.
thousand dollars out of impact fees instead of capital projects. Thank you. K. So if I could you know, I'd appreciate maybe two motions here. One, to include the street impact fee adjustment and with approval of the resolution.
Make a motion there. Ken? Make a motion to approve resolution twenty six sixteen, to include the additional street impact fee. The shift Yeah. Shifting of fund. Yes. Okay.
Make a motion there. Ken? Make a motion to approve resolution twenty six sixteen, to include the additional street impact fee. The shift Yeah. Shifting of fund. Yes. Okay.
Alright. I have a motion from Nick. Second from Nathan. Discussion, please.
Alright. I have a motion from Nick. Second from Nathan. Discussion, please.
If I could've, I maybe should've mentioned that we do need to have a public hearing on this, so we'll need to come back to our next meeting. You can't take final action on it tonight. So I should have said that earlier. Apologize.
If I could've, I maybe should've mentioned that we do need to have a public hearing on this, so we'll need to come back to our next meeting. You can't take final action on it tonight. So I should have said that earlier. Apologize.
Just discussion for the next one. Spelling error on resolved again.
Just discussion for the next one. Spelling error on resolved again.
I feel like you're challenging me now. Yeah. We need to find and replace all along.
I feel like you're challenging me now. Yeah. We need to find and replace all along.
Okay. Thank you. I can pull that up. Oh, you got you got
Okay. Thank you. I can pull that up. Oh, you got you got
time. So when this if this passes for first reading comes back as second, we will include these changes as the adopted first reading. Everybody clear on that? K. Yeah. Any more discussion or first reading approval? Seeing none, I'll ask for a vote. Those in favor of approving for, first reading, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? It's unanimous. Thank you. We'll come back for public hearing and second reading. Seems like good news to me. Alright. Let's do number eight, which is an ordinance providing for a compensation of elected statute for statutory officers, elected officials, statutory officers, and department heads. We we have second reading on this, please.
time. So when this if this passes for first reading comes back as second, we will include these changes as the adopted first reading. Everybody clear on that? K. Yeah. Any more discussion or first reading approval? Seeing none, I'll ask for a vote. Those in favor of approving for, first reading, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? It's unanimous. Thank you. We'll come back for public hearing and second reading. Seems like good news to me. Alright. Let's do number eight, which is an ordinance providing for a compensation of elected statute for statutory officers, elected officials, statutory officers, and department heads. We we have second reading on this, please.
Yes, sir. And I have nothing else to add other than to offer any questions I may answer. Happy to go over the worth of work, as in as much detail as you'd like to hear. Just kinda ready to answer any questions that you might have or further any discussion.
Yes, sir. And I have nothing else to add other than to offer any questions I may answer. Happy to go over the worth of work, as in as much detail as you'd like to hear. Just kinda ready to answer any questions that you might have or further any discussion.
Are we ready to vote, counsel?
Are we ready to vote, counsel?
Are we ready to make a motion? I'll give you a motion to approve for second reading.
Are we ready to make a motion? I'll give you a motion to approve for second reading.
Motion from Nathan. Second from Aaron to approve for second reading. Discussion, please. K. I hope that's what I said, but I'm not sure anymore. Okay. We're good. Comments, thoughts? Is there opposition to voting? Seeing none, I ask Cheryl to call the roll, please.
Motion from Nathan. Second from Aaron to approve for second reading. Discussion, please. K. I hope that's what I said, but I'm not sure anymore. Okay. We're good. Comments, thoughts? Is there opposition to voting? Seeing none, I ask Cheryl to call the roll, please.
Council member Lauerson, what is your vote? Council member Mann? In favor. Council member Mansell? Against. Council member Kentska? In favor. Council member Spalding? In favor. Thank you.
Council member Lauerson, what is your vote? Council member Mann? In favor. Council member Mansell? Against. Council member Kentska? In favor. Council member Spalding? In favor. Thank you.
I count four in favor, one opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, counsel. Thank you, Cheryl. And moving right along to item nine. This is, resolution twenty six nineteen to adopt the budget for Nibley City in the coming fiscal year. We have new information or new recommendation from Justin on this, so
I count four in favor, one opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, counsel. Thank you, Cheryl. And moving right along to item nine. This is, resolution twenty six nineteen to adopt the budget for Nibley City in the coming fiscal year. We have new information or new recommendation from Justin on this, so
take it away, please. Yes, sir. This is the big news of the night. Kinda hit on it a little bit already. But with the money left over and where things settled in or where we're projecting things to settle in. Mayor and I had lots of real heart to heart discussions about whether or not we really should or should not, ask for more money in taxes. And we decided based on everything that's going on that at this time, we would, not recommend raising taxes that we have been discussing, but that we would amend the budget, without the tax increase. And so what I did was just look at where we were getting our revenues and tried to make them a little bit more aggressive and a little closer to what we expect to get to try to trim that gap. And when we ended up doing that, it shows that, overall, we reduce about what was presented to you all last meeting by about $65,000. And to make up for that $65,000, we went through and looked at areas in the budget where we had money left over, where we've consistently had money left over. And just to give you an idea, I had some I mean, months ago, actually, I had Talon sit down and took the last six years' budget, six years' worth of budgets and chunk these numbers in a spreadsheet and be able to try to nail down or try to figure chunk these numbers in a spreadsheet and be able to try to nail down or try to figure out exactly where and why we have this gap every year, and it changes every year. We couldn't find a a consistent A
take it away, please. Yes, sir. This is the big news of the night. Kinda hit on it a little bit already. But with the money left over and where things settled in or where we're projecting things to settle in. Mayor and I had lots of real heart to heart discussions about whether or not we really should or should not, ask for more money in taxes. And we decided based on everything that's going on that at this time, we would, not recommend raising taxes that we have been discussing, but that we would amend the budget, without the tax increase. And so what I did was just look at where we were getting our revenues and tried to make them a little bit more aggressive and a little closer to what we expect to get to try to trim that gap. And when we ended up doing that, it shows that, overall, we reduce about what was presented to you all last meeting by about $65,000. And to make up for that $65,000, we went through and looked at areas in the budget where we had money left over, where we've consistently had money left over. And just to give you an idea, I had some I mean, months ago, actually, I had Talon sit down and took the last six years' budget, six years' worth of budgets and chunk these numbers in a spreadsheet and be able to try to nail down or try to figure chunk these numbers in a spreadsheet and be able to try to nail down or try to figure out exactly where and why we have this gap every year, and it changes every year. We couldn't find a a consistent A
revenue compared to expenses. Correct. Right. Yeah. We're just trying to trim that number and be as close and as accurate as we can be. And so, really, the the place to do that was in our travel and training budgets. Those have all took a bit of a little bit of a hit. If you remember two years ago, we drastically cut those. Yeah. And so this is a little bit of a hit. We will fill this a little bit, but I believe most everybody will still be able to go to the conferences and things that they need to do to maintain their certifications and required trainings. And so, with that, we also, just decreased a little bit of the planned amount of money to go into capital projects. So we reduced $65,000 out of, excuse me, expenses out of the general fund to make that balance. So, with that, those are the recommended changes for the budget that would accept the certified rate that was presented and proposed by the county just a couple days ago. That rate is point zero zero one three seven six or three eight. So no tax increase. So all that all those hoops we've been jumping through and all those big long resolutions we've been reading and taking care of, all that stuff will go out the window unless you guys really feel the desire to raise taxes. So and we've had a lot of discussions, so I don't know if you want me to go back through individual lines. I'm happy to ask answer any and all questions that you may have about the budget. But at this point, with these recommendations, staff feels that we're ready to tie a knot on that and be done. Be give us our direction and go for the air.
revenue compared to expenses. Correct. Right. Yeah. We're just trying to trim that number and be as close and as accurate as we can be. And so, really, the the place to do that was in our travel and training budgets. Those have all took a bit of a little bit of a hit. If you remember two years ago, we drastically cut those. Yeah. And so this is a little bit of a hit. We will fill this a little bit, but I believe most everybody will still be able to go to the conferences and things that they need to do to maintain their certifications and required trainings. And so, with that, we also, just decreased a little bit of the planned amount of money to go into capital projects. So we reduced $65,000 out of, excuse me, expenses out of the general fund to make that balance. So, with that, those are the recommended changes for the budget that would accept the certified rate that was presented and proposed by the county just a couple days ago. That rate is point zero zero one three seven six or three eight. So no tax increase. So all that all those hoops we've been jumping through and all those big long resolutions we've been reading and taking care of, all that stuff will go out the window unless you guys really feel the desire to raise taxes. So and we've had a lot of discussions, so I don't know if you want me to go back through individual lines. I'm happy to ask answer any and all questions that you may have about the budget. But at this point, with these recommendations, staff feels that we're ready to tie a knot on that and be done. Be give us our direction and go for the air.
I have hinted at one of the uncertainties as we work through this budget cycle, which remains an uncertainty, is fire protection and EMS. And at this point, my feeling about fire protection and EMS, I believe Justin concur concurs, we're not in a position to ask for a change in the budget. That is despite a factor of three increase in fire protection from the contract we interlocal contract we have. And there's also a big question about whether the county general fund has been subsidizing EMS in the south part of the county. It has, and so we're gonna have to make up for that somewhere. That's on the negative side. On the positive side, there is a promised there's a strong proposal from the fire board to recommend to the county council, which will likely I I shouldn't count the votes before they're cast, but would likely remove the current tax that goes into the county general fund, the part of the tax that goes into the county general fund for county fire service that that would be 90% of that would be reimbursed to municipalities at the same amount that those municipalities contribute to that part of the general fund, the county general fund. So that would come back to Nibley City in the form of a voucher. And when it's all said and done, there may be some redistribution of how those taxes are collected. We have to get them out of the county's hands in part because Logan City, who's not part of the fire district, is also paying into that county general fund, and that has to be remedied. We're gonna have discussions about whether it's right for Nibley City to be charging a EMS fee as opposed to taking that, which which means it's not coming out of property tax. That discussion will be in the future. So for all of the dust storms and swirling around with fire and EMS, it's not over, but I completely concur with Justin's recommendation on not raising taxes for this fiscal year. And not raising taxes means assuming or taking a certified tax rate provided by the county auditor? Assessor. Assessor. Thank you. That does not generate an increase in dollars minus growth and adjusting the rate so that we don't collect more dollars in property tax. So there's some uncertainty on fire and EMS. I don't think we're ready to jump the gun. I think we'd be jumping the gun to do anything about that, and I'm optimistic we can work it out without bankrupting the city. There are there's some good proposals to for the fire board and the county council to look at.
I have hinted at one of the uncertainties as we work through this budget cycle, which remains an uncertainty, is fire protection and EMS. And at this point, my feeling about fire protection and EMS, I believe Justin concur concurs, we're not in a position to ask for a change in the budget. That is despite a factor of three increase in fire protection from the contract we interlocal contract we have. And there's also a big question about whether the county general fund has been subsidizing EMS in the south part of the county. It has, and so we're gonna have to make up for that somewhere. That's on the negative side. On the positive side, there is a promised there's a strong proposal from the fire board to recommend to the county council, which will likely I I shouldn't count the votes before they're cast, but would likely remove the current tax that goes into the county general fund, the part of the tax that goes into the county general fund for county fire service that that would be 90% of that would be reimbursed to municipalities at the same amount that those municipalities contribute to that part of the general fund, the county general fund. So that would come back to Nibley City in the form of a voucher. And when it's all said and done, there may be some redistribution of how those taxes are collected. We have to get them out of the county's hands in part because Logan City, who's not part of the fire district, is also paying into that county general fund, and that has to be remedied. We're gonna have discussions about whether it's right for Nibley City to be charging a EMS fee as opposed to taking that, which which means it's not coming out of property tax. That discussion will be in the future. So for all of the dust storms and swirling around with fire and EMS, it's not over, but I completely concur with Justin's recommendation on not raising taxes for this fiscal year. And not raising taxes means assuming or taking a certified tax rate provided by the county auditor? Assessor. Assessor. Thank you. That does not generate an increase in dollars minus growth and adjusting the rate so that we don't collect more dollars in property tax. So there's some uncertainty on fire and EMS. I don't think we're ready to jump the gun. I think we'd be jumping the gun to do anything about that, and I'm optimistic we can work it out without bankrupting the city. There are there's some good proposals to for the fire board and the county council to look at.
Are are there things we can be doing or people we can be talking to to help with that, to push one way or the other?
Are are there things we can be doing or people we can be talking to to help with that, to push one way or the other?
That's a great suggestion, Garrett, and I appreciate it. I I think right now we're figuring out governance, and that's with the fire board. The most recent thing is an adoption just today of change to the bylaws that includes more cities. And so that governance is being spread wider, which I think is a good plan. For now, I think just hang tight. There may be a point where it's worthwhile to lobby the county council members. But right now, I think we have to wait for things to settle. Look forward to talking to you more about that.
That's a great suggestion, Garrett, and I appreciate it. I I think right now we're figuring out governance, and that's with the fire board. The most recent thing is an adoption just today of change to the bylaws that includes more cities. And so that governance is being spread wider, which I think is a good plan. For now, I think just hang tight. There may be a point where it's worthwhile to lobby the county council members. But right now, I think we have to wait for things to settle. Look forward to talking to you more about that.
If I may, Mayor, one more. Just this is fairly minor, but we just learned a couple days ago that our software system we use for our accounting and our billing, and it's a pretty hefty piece of our software package is making some changes that bring into question whether or not we wanna stay with that software. And so just be aware, similar to fire, as that fluxes and moves, we may be back here talking about in the realm of 20 ish thousand dollars here or there to try to either move to a new software or stick with the old software, and either way, the costs are probably gonna go up.
If I may, Mayor, one more. Just this is fairly minor, but we just learned a couple days ago that our software system we use for our accounting and our billing, and it's a pretty hefty piece of our software package is making some changes that bring into question whether or not we wanna stay with that software. And so just be aware, similar to fire, as that fluxes and moves, we may be back here talking about in the realm of 20 ish thousand dollars here or there to try to either move to a new software or stick with the old software, and either way, the costs are probably gonna go up.
Yep. I think it's interesting to note. If you watch this sort of thing, we worry about affordable housing and those types of things. If if we aggregate all of the assessed property tax in Nibley City, it's just about the same last year as it was this year. So, optimistically, you could say things are no more unaffordable than they were last year, and, pessimistically, you could say they're just as unaffordable as they were last year. So half full or half empty. Yes, please, Sarah. So that nondepartmental
Yep. I think it's interesting to note. If you watch this sort of thing, we worry about affordable housing and those types of things. If if we aggregate all of the assessed property tax in Nibley City, it's just about the same last year as it was this year. So, optimistically, you could say things are no more unaffordable than they were last year, and, pessimistically, you could say they're just as unaffordable as they were last year. So half full or half empty. Yes, please, Sarah. So that nondepartmental
line, so that's the money coming out of the general fund then, that $46,000?
line, so that's the money coming out of the general fund then, that $46,000?
You have the expense changes, and most of them are coming out of travel and training. It's the last The last one, non departmental decreasing from Yeah. One forty one to 95. That's the money coming out of the general fund then? Correct. So that's just what we plan to move every year. We put a number in there, and often we use the number to kinda balance the budget to keep it balanced. Mhmm. But we said we were gonna we planned on a 140,000. Now we're just saying we're only gonna plan to put 95.
You have the expense changes, and most of them are coming out of travel and training. It's the last The last one, non departmental decreasing from Yeah. One forty one to 95. That's the money coming out of the general fund then? Correct. So that's just what we plan to move every year. We put a number in there, and often we use the number to kinda balance the budget to keep it balanced. Mhmm. But we said we were gonna we planned on a 140,000. Now we're just saying we're only gonna plan to put 95.
I think it makes a commitment on the city's part to say, if we wanna do big things with capital projects, we have to be very specific about saving money or borrowing money for those big things as opposed to, by default, we'll continue to save money when we actually hadn't planned to save money, but through conservative budgeting practices, we will. If we decide to do something big, I mean, public works facilities or you know, we've talked about those. We have we have a whole capital projects study. It's probably six years old now. Yep. The the problem is to to tackle what that study says needs to be done, the difference between 140,000 into the capital projects fund or compared to 95,000 doesn't mean anything. No.
I think it makes a commitment on the city's part to say, if we wanna do big things with capital projects, we have to be very specific about saving money or borrowing money for those big things as opposed to, by default, we'll continue to save money when we actually hadn't planned to save money, but through conservative budgeting practices, we will. If we decide to do something big, I mean, public works facilities or you know, we've talked about those. We have we have a whole capital projects study. It's probably six years old now. Yep. The the problem is to to tackle what that study says needs to be done, the difference between 140,000 into the capital projects fund or compared to 95,000 doesn't mean anything. No.
Fuck. Aaron? So the the changes that we're discussing tonight would also cover the what we just voted on previously, the change in compensation of different That's been incorporated. That's been incorporated. So so these changes help to cover those additional costs we just approved. Correct. Okay.
Fuck. Aaron? So the the changes that we're discussing tonight would also cover the what we just voted on previously, the change in compensation of different That's been incorporated. That's been incorporated. So so these changes help to cover those additional costs we just approved. Correct. Okay.
Nathan? With these amendments, do you need them kinda line by line like you guys did in the last meeting or in group? Or If the council's okay with it and it's clear to Cheryl,
Nathan? With these amendments, do you need them kinda line by line like you guys did in the last meeting or in group? Or If the council's okay with it and it's clear to Cheryl,
I think I I I think a motion for the budget amendment, all inclusive, is appropriate since it's written out in front of us to include that. And your first motion could be to approve, for a second reading, the budget where we left it at our last meeting and then move to make these amendments. Or in this case, it's up to you. I think we can handle a main motion that includes these changes if you're if you're keeping score at home.
I think I I I think a motion for the budget amendment, all inclusive, is appropriate since it's written out in front of us to include that. And your first motion could be to approve, for a second reading, the budget where we left it at our last meeting and then move to make these amendments. Or in this case, it's up to you. I think we can handle a main motion that includes these changes if you're if you're keeping score at home.
So one little point is this is a new because it changed from the tax Yeah. Wording and stuff, this is a new ordinance or resolution. Resolution. Sorry. And we'll we will need to waive the second reading on that and pass this tonight. The real thing is the tax rate that we need to report to the state. So we do need to waive second reading on this. Right. As far as the budget goes, you know, we've we've hit all the required public hearings and things like that. It's just a matter of tying a knot on it this way.
So one little point is this is a new because it changed from the tax Yeah. Wording and stuff, this is a new ordinance or resolution. Resolution. Sorry. And we'll we will need to waive the second reading on that and pass this tonight. The real thing is the tax rate that we need to report to the state. So we do need to waive second reading on this. Right. As far as the budget goes, you know, we've we've hit all the required public hearings and things like that. It's just a matter of tying a knot on it this way.
I can give you a motion then. Thank you, Eric. Make a motion to approve resolution twenty six nineteen and waive second reading.
I can give you a motion then. Thank you, Eric. Make a motion to approve resolution twenty six nineteen and waive second reading.
To adopt the budget To adopt the budget. As presented with the with these pages. K. Thank you. And a second from Garrett. Thank you. Discussion, please. Are we on the right track, you guys? Are we doing the right thing? Okay.
To adopt the budget To adopt the budget. As presented with the with these pages. K. Thank you. And a second from Garrett. Thank you. Discussion, please. Are we on the right track, you guys? Are we doing the right thing? Okay.
Nathan, you can say no. Well, I just have a question that Justin just said that made me think. So you we had a resolution last meeting, which was numbered what? What do you mean? Sorry. Not following your question. You said this is a new resolution. Correct. So the last resolution is not currently on this agenda. It is. Twenty six seventeen, wasn't it?
Nathan, you can say no. Well, I just have a question that Justin just said that made me think. So you we had a resolution last meeting, which was numbered what? What do you mean? Sorry. Not following your question. You said this is a new resolution. Correct. So the last resolution is not currently on this agenda. It is. Twenty six seventeen, wasn't it?
Oh, so it's the next one. Gotcha. I understand now. So we will just It's the yep. Yep. Figure out what to do in the rest of the agenda depending on how this this this one goes. It is if then statement. Yep. Yeah. Got it. Thanks. Okay. Any other thoughts, discussion? Anyone opposed to voting? Let's get it done then. Will you please call the roll, Cheryl?
Oh, so it's the next one. Gotcha. I understand now. So we will just It's the yep. Yep. Figure out what to do in the rest of the agenda depending on how this this this one goes. It is if then statement. Yep. Yeah. Got it. Thanks. Okay. Any other thoughts, discussion? Anyone opposed to voting? Let's get it done then. Will you please call the roll, Cheryl?
Council member Spalding, what is your vote? In favor. Council member Mansell? In favor. Council member Mann? In favor. Council member Lowerson? In favor. Thank you.
Council member Spalding, what is your vote? In favor. Council member Mansell? In favor. Council member Mann? In favor. Council member Lowerson? In favor. Thank you.
Five in favor. None opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, Cheryl. Thank you, counsel. Justin, Amy, you guys, every year, you astound me with the insight, the effort, the top level understanding, the detailed tactics. I mean, it it just all fits.
Five in favor. None opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, Cheryl. Thank you, counsel. Justin, Amy, you guys, every year, you astound me with the insight, the effort, the top level understanding, the detailed tactics. I mean, it it just all fits.
appreciate what you do for us. Yeah. Thanks for all your time. I know it's, like, hours and hours and hours. So thanks.
appreciate what you do for us. Yeah. Thanks for all your time. I know it's, like, hours and hours and hours. So thanks.
In our in our mind. Yeah. Yep.
In our in our mind. Yeah. Yep.
Okay. Number 10, there there's 10111213141516. Stop me if I'm going too far, Cheryl. I think we k. Thank you. All of these resolutions you've been seeing on agenda, because of new requirements, anticipating a tentative budget that would require an increase in tax dollars and, therefore, a truth in taxation process to make it very, very clear about the intent of the budget to increase the absolute number of dollars. And at this point, based on your decision on number nine, these are no longer required. Correct, staff? So there's a couple of ways we could do this. We talked about tabling. We talked about going through them one at a time and not approving, which would be a whole bunch of roll call votes, which we've been doing anyway. Most recently, we talked about suspending the rules and modifying tonight's agenda, which the council can do. We can't add things to the agenda, but we can take we can take things off the agenda that we don't wanna talk about. The public has had the opportunity to see that we're going to talk about it, and we we can take things away, but we can't sneak things in. Mhmm.
Okay. Number 10, there there's 10111213141516. Stop me if I'm going too far, Cheryl. I think we k. Thank you. All of these resolutions you've been seeing on agenda, because of new requirements, anticipating a tentative budget that would require an increase in tax dollars and, therefore, a truth in taxation process to make it very, very clear about the intent of the budget to increase the absolute number of dollars. And at this point, based on your decision on number nine, these are no longer required. Correct, staff? So there's a couple of ways we could do this. We talked about tabling. We talked about going through them one at a time and not approving, which would be a whole bunch of roll call votes, which we've been doing anyway. Most recently, we talked about suspending the rules and modifying tonight's agenda, which the council can do. We can't add things to the agenda, but we can take we can take things off the agenda that we don't wanna talk about. The public has had the opportunity to see that we're going to talk about it, and we we can take things away, but we can't sneak things in. Mhmm.
So, Nathan, do you have a motion? Yeah. I'll give you a motion to suspend the rules and modify the agenda, removing items 10 through 16.
So, Nathan, do you have a motion? Yeah. I'll give you a motion to suspend the rules and modify the agenda, removing items 10 through 16.
I have a motion from Nathan, a second from Nick. Suspend the rules. Modify the agenda as he described. Discussion on that motion? Cheryl, are you okay with that? Okay. I I think you know? And if we're wrong, we have to come back and vote no on all of them. We have to the remedy is that we have to come back into session and and vote no. But we're essentially I think we're wearing a belt and suspenders. We've adopted a budget that does not include an increase in tax dollars. Therefore, no truth in taxation is required, and now we're taking things off the agenda that were there because of the transparency requirements of truth and taxation. So I think we have it covered. And that's been extra work. I think it's been a good exercise. I I I won't predict the future, but one of these years, we might have to go we might have to do this. Right? That's kind of the way inflation works. Is there opposition to voting on the motion to suspend the rules? Saying none, those in favor of suspending the rules and modifying the agenda, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. That takes us to item 17, council reports.
I have a motion from Nathan, a second from Nick. Suspend the rules. Modify the agenda as he described. Discussion on that motion? Cheryl, are you okay with that? Okay. I I think you know? And if we're wrong, we have to come back and vote no on all of them. We have to the remedy is that we have to come back into session and and vote no. But we're essentially I think we're wearing a belt and suspenders. We've adopted a budget that does not include an increase in tax dollars. Therefore, no truth in taxation is required, and now we're taking things off the agenda that were there because of the transparency requirements of truth and taxation. So I think we have it covered. And that's been extra work. I think it's been a good exercise. I I I won't predict the future, but one of these years, we might have to go we might have to do this. Right? That's kind of the way inflation works. Is there opposition to voting on the motion to suspend the rules? Saying none, those in favor of suspending the rules and modifying the agenda, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. That takes us to item 17, council reports.
Nathan, will you start for us?
Nathan, will you start for us?
You bet. Just a big thank you to staff for acting so quickly on some concerns of citizens and continuing to act on long standing things of other issues in the community. I think you guys are amazing, and I appreciate you very much.
You bet. Just a big thank you to staff for acting so quickly on some concerns of citizens and continuing to act on long standing things of other issues in the community. I think you guys are amazing, and I appreciate you very much.
Thought the food truck roundup was a lot of fun. My kids been talking about it. It was great. It was a good turnout, and glad the weather got a little scary for a minute, but it kinda held out for us, which was good. And just excited for Heritage Days this next week. Cheryl, is it okay if I bring all my kids in the parade? K. Alright. That's all.
Thought the food truck roundup was a lot of fun. My kids been talking about it. It was great. It was a good turnout, and glad the weather got a little scary for a minute, but it kinda held out for us, which was good. And just excited for Heritage Days this next week. Cheryl, is it okay if I bring all my kids in the parade? K. Alright. That's all.
Eric. Eric? This feels so weird. It's, like, too early. It's not. Early for heritage days? Oh, for for us having a council report and, like, it's some crazy weird event.
Eric. Eric? This feels so weird. It's, like, too early. It's not. Early for heritage days? Oh, for for us having a council report and, like, it's some crazy weird event.
This is So hold on. This is an unplanned this is an unplanned meeting. The fact that we're here at all, it means that it's more work.
This is So hold on. This is an unplanned this is an unplanned meeting. The fact that we're here at all, it means that it's more work.
Well, I I would echo everyone's sentiment. Appreciate staff and doing all that. Budget is man, the more you get into it, it is pretty amazing. All the working cogs that you have to figure out how to put together. The only thing I had to bring up is I had a couple upset parents call me about mosquito abatement. I guess I think it was Thursday night. They called me on Friday, so it was probably Thursday night. I don't know if they have a set time they go around in a spray, but they were upset because their kids were out playing on the sidewalk. And the truck came by and was spraying, and the kids were there. And they're like, my kids were basically getting sprayed, and I don't know if it's harmful. I don't even know what they spray because I haven't seen them. I know they're killing mosquitoes or larva. I anyway, they asked me to see if there was a way that we not spray our kids and maybe wait until after maybe kids have gone inside in the evening. But I told them I'd bring it up and
Well, I I would echo everyone's sentiment. Appreciate staff and doing all that. Budget is man, the more you get into it, it is pretty amazing. All the working cogs that you have to figure out how to put together. The only thing I had to bring up is I had a couple upset parents call me about mosquito abatement. I guess I think it was Thursday night. They called me on Friday, so it was probably Thursday night. I don't know if they have a set time they go around in a spray, but they were upset because their kids were out playing on the sidewalk. And the truck came by and was spraying, and the kids were there. And they're like, my kids were basically getting sprayed, and I don't know if it's harmful. I don't even know what they spray because I haven't seen them. I know they're killing mosquitoes or larva. I anyway, they asked me to see if there was a way that we not spray our kids and maybe wait until after maybe kids have gone inside in the evening. But I told them I'd bring it up and
do what Yeah. So I had a actually, a little bit of discussion, probably a very similar topic with the Cache Mosquito Bayman District manager, and I think that's kind of the message that I would share is Nibley City has nothing to do with that. We're part of the Cache Mosquito Bayman District. You can call up our manager. We can discuss and maybe make that request. But they are the ones that kinda pull those strings and make those decisions. And I can have that discussion. I will have that discussion with him,
do what Yeah. So I had a actually, a little bit of discussion, probably a very similar topic with the Cache Mosquito Bayman District manager, and I think that's kind of the message that I would share is Nibley City has nothing to do with that. We're part of the Cache Mosquito Bayman District. You can call up our manager. We can discuss and maybe make that request. But they are the ones that kinda pull those strings and make those decisions. And I can have that discussion. I will have that discussion with him,
and that's all I'll say right now. Okay. But may I just I told him we'd bring it up because I wasn't sure how do you address that. And they were just upset because their kids were out there when they drove by spraying, and their kids are getting sprayed. And Yeah. Understandable.
and that's all I'll say right now. Okay. But may I just I told him we'd bring it up because I wasn't sure how do you address that. And they were just upset because their kids were out there when they drove by spraying, and their kids are getting sprayed. And Yeah. Understandable.
So There's there's a possible other remedy. We're not Nibley City is not a political subdivision controlling or subsequent to the Casmosquito Abatement District, but we do have representation on their board. And, that's public public domain information. You all, approved Randy Feaser as our, representative on the board.
So There's there's a possible other remedy. We're not Nibley City is not a political subdivision controlling or subsequent to the Casmosquito Abatement District, but we do have representation on their board. And, that's public public domain information. You all, approved Randy Feaser as our, representative on the board.
when I asked Randy to serve on that board, I asked if he would be willing to receive public comment like this as our representative. He may have changed his mind since then, but you you all know Randy, and
when I asked Randy to serve on that board, I asked if he would be willing to receive public comment like this as our representative. He may have changed his mind since then, but you you all know Randy, and
I think I think it'd be worth reaching out to Randy. Thanks. That's a great idea. I'll do the same. K. That's a good idea.
I think I think it'd be worth reaching out to Randy. Thanks. That's a great idea. I'll do the same. K. That's a good idea.
And and, also, I mean, there are members of the board that won't take public input to the board. They'd flat out say they won't do it. I won't speak for Randy. If you have trouble making headway with Randy, which I don't anticipate you will, I would reach out directly, and citizens can do this too. Yeah. Reach out directly to the Cache Mosquito Abatement District. And if you don't wanna get sprayed at all, there's a way to there's a way to do that.
And and, also, I mean, there are members of the board that won't take public input to the board. They'd flat out say they won't do it. I won't speak for Randy. If you have trouble making headway with Randy, which I don't anticipate you will, I would reach out directly, and citizens can do this too. Yeah. Reach out directly to the Cache Mosquito Abatement District. And if you don't wanna get sprayed at all, there's a way to there's a way to do that.
No. There's a way to be on a no spray list. It's not easy, but it's doable. So there's my public service announcement. K. No. I appreciate it. If you if you like monarch butterflies. Cool.
No. There's a way to be on a no spray list. It's not easy, but it's doable. So there's my public service announcement. K. No. I appreciate it. If you if you like monarch butterflies. Cool.
I'll share that information with them. So that's all I have.
I'll share that information with them. So that's all I have.
I was gonna ask about water and just where we at where we're at as a city, but it sounds like we're gonna get an update soon. We're gonna have that on our regularly scheduled city council meeting two weeks from the side. Cool. So then other than that, just looking forward to hearing your days, and hope everyone has fun. That's it. Thank you.
I was gonna ask about water and just where we at where we're at as a city, but it sounds like we're gonna get an update soon. We're gonna have that on our regularly scheduled city council meeting two weeks from the side. Cool. So then other than that, just looking forward to hearing your days, and hope everyone has fun. That's it. Thank you.
Thank you, Randy. I just want to, again, thank staff for the budget and all that goes into that process. That's something to read. I can't imagine what that's like to put that together. It's much easier to approve, a cola and a worth of work for the city employees if there's no tax increase. It's much easier. And so the the wrestle that I've had, that many have had, seems to go away with a tremendous trust for Justin, especially when the new when there's no tax increase. And so, anyway, I'm grateful that we have a chance to help the employees get to the midpoint. I think that's essential. That is that's important. So grateful that we don't have this conflict.
Thank you, Randy. I just want to, again, thank staff for the budget and all that goes into that process. That's something to read. I can't imagine what that's like to put that together. It's much easier to approve, a cola and a worth of work for the city employees if there's no tax increase. It's much easier. And so the the wrestle that I've had, that many have had, seems to go away with a tremendous trust for Justin, especially when the new when there's no tax increase. And so, anyway, I'm grateful that we have a chance to help the employees get to the midpoint. I think that's essential. That is that's important. So grateful that we don't have this conflict.
So thank you. Thank you, Randy. Cheryl, do you have anything for us? K. Tom?
So thank you. Thank you, Randy. Cheryl, do you have anything for us? K. Tom?
Just a lot of road closures and lane shifts. We got a lot of stuff going on out there. Be careful. Try to try to follow the detour signs where they will take you to the safe direction. You won't have any conflicts in the work zones. Thanks for your patience. Okay.
Just a lot of road closures and lane shifts. We got a lot of stuff going on out there. Be careful. Try to try to follow the detour signs where they will take you to the safe direction. You won't have any conflicts in the work zones. Thanks for your patience. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. I'll just say thank you for your guys' willingness to be here tonight. We do apologize for missing that one little I mean, there's, I mean, there's so many focus on the budget, so many things and checkboxes to hit and dates and deadlines, and we just kinda messed that one up. So we do apologize and appreciate your willingness to meet tonight so we could meet that deadline. So Yeah. Thanks for that. Other other than that, just happy to be here and happy to serve. So please, if you got things or need things, contact us, reach out, and we'll fix it.
Yeah. Yeah. I'll just say thank you for your guys' willingness to be here tonight. We do apologize for missing that one little I mean, there's, I mean, there's so many focus on the budget, so many things and checkboxes to hit and dates and deadlines, and we just kinda messed that one up. So we do apologize and appreciate your willingness to meet tonight so we could meet that deadline. So Yeah. Thanks for that. Other other than that, just happy to be here and happy to serve. So please, if you got things or need things, contact us, reach out, and we'll fix it.