City Council 6.25.2025

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Council, if you use the agenda that I uploaded today, we'll have the the goals with our city council, their planning general plan. There we go.

Ready? We're recording.

Wanna welcome

everyone to our Hyde Park City Council meeting for June 25. We're going to lead off with a opening prayer or thought followed by the pledge or followed by the pledge with the council member Allred.

Our father in heaven, we're so very grateful that we can be here this night. We're grateful for our blessings and for the abundance that we have. We're thankful to live in Hyde Park with so many good people. Father, we pray for our citizens that they can be blessed and helped, especially in those trials that some might be facing. We pray tonight that we can have thy help in in considering the things that are on our agenda, that we can have wisdom and guidance, that we can have forethinking. And and please be with us here with thy spirit, and we pray these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. I'll stand and follow me in the pledge.

I I pledge allegiance to the flag of

The United States Of America

and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under all and the victor with liberty and justice for all. Alright. Council, the first item on the agenda is to we need to this is different. We need to accept the agenda.

You can do the agenda and the minutes at the same time. Cool beans. Good.

We want to accept the minutes, and the agenda is there for review and approval. I have no amendments.

One one thing on the minutes or the final plat for Wolfpack Heights subdivision. So it shows the motion carrying three zero, and it was actually three one. Three one. Yeah. Okay. So Thank you. Pretty pretty minor, but we need still may wanna capture. Yep. Kirk wants I'm sure he's early. Yeah. I want my name in here. Yeah. That's all I have.

I have nothing.

I don't have anything.

Girl, you know, Kirk? With that minor amendment to the minutes, I would look for a motion to approve the minutes and the agenda as amended. I'll make that motion. I'll second it. Got a motion from Stephanie, a second from Tiffany. Any additional discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion carries five zero. Now is the time that we open it up for citizen input and comments from the council. We would look to limit it for no more than three minutes and try and keep it on items that aren't currently on the agenda. And so we would turn it over to the council the city for resident input. Having none, we'll close that portion and move on to some business. Chief. Alright. I believe,

Marcus, if you could pull up the stats. So let's start first with the stats for this week. Total between the two towns or two cities there the PD handled 143 calls this last week. 27 of those were for Hyde Park and 116 were for North Logan. We had 14 traffic stops in Hyde Park and that ratio ended up being a 21 site to a warning ratio on that. We're still seeing our top three as far as accidents, medicals, and animal problems as being the number one, two, and three for number of calls in Hyde Park. And then you you throw in some of the others that you see there. We are still seeing an increase in our calls. I have kept that up there. I I don't have June's numbers yet. July, they'll send me those and I can update that bottom graph there. But it does give a good idea of what we're seeing here. June has been a pretty busy month for the PD on that. The second thing, unless there's questions, I'll move on to the the trailer report from that. Okay. Marcus, if you'll pull up the radar stat page. So this is the first radar trailer report. It's being the report that I was able to do. We placed it up on 700 East at 356 North there. And it was on the east side of the highway with the sign facing north so northbound traffic could see the sign. This particular trailer is known as a speed calming trailer so it flashes red and blue lights as the drivers get above a set limit. On this one I'd set it at 30 And when people got to 31 the red and blue started to flash and we did see a calming influence.

So the trailer was was set there June 18 and I picked it up on the twenty fourth. When you say calming influence, does that mean that you caught them going 35 coming in and it measured them going 25 going out? So How do how do you know that it's calming? Because the initial,

first feet is higher, and then as they get closer, it it slows down on that. So as they pass the trailer this trailer measures as they're coming towards it and then again as they're moving away from it. Okay that's probably dozens. Okay. Yep so it does have that calming influence on the on the second page there. It breaks it down. So we had 6,455 vehicles that passed by that trailer in from the eighteenth until the twenty fourth there. 3,045 were at the speed limit or under the speed limit or 47, percent. And then 3,410 were traveling over the speed limit, on that or 52%. With that, the average speed recorded was 24.76, and the fastest speed was 50, which I was actually surprised on. I thought that would have been higher in that location. I was looking for speed somewhere in the seventies on that. So, that is, good, I suppose. On that, The eighty fifth percentile at that speed listed at 29 miles an hour on that. And then the as you scroll down the graph right below that gives you some more data on that. So this is the graph that you see with the red line there is the eighty fifth percentile mark. So on the left side you see the percentage and then at the 30 line you see a faint line That's the 29 mile an hour. And when it reaches the eighty fifth percentile, that's where they get that number. That's where that 29 came from as it measured all of those cars there. So She forgot a got a question. You bet. Looking at that graph,

it it's capturing, I don't know, a certain number of vehicles going five miles an hour, 10 miles an hour, 15 miles an hour.

Right? All all the way up. And It does.

And and I'm thinking, well, now they're driving too slow. And and so my what really where I'm going with that is I don't know who is driving at, if it's the people coming right out of the driveway there. But I would think that that including those numbers now are gonna give you a lower average speed limit. Does that make does that make sense that there ought to be maybe It would. You you throw out everything below 15 or 20 miles an hour because we don't want people driving 15 and a 25. Right. It is dangerous when you get to lower speed there, especially in that area because you have cars coming up on the hill and backing out of the prices. I think it include and so I don't know. I'd ask maybe with the company or look at you know, if you tossed out everything at, you know, below a certain amount because that's gonna skew

your average fee limit. Yep. And I can I can look at that? I don't have the answer for that right now. That's fine. What I do see, though, what we did for you, at the top by that yellow and green graph there you have the the breakdown in five mile increments of those that are speeding. So you have 2,116 of the thirty four ten that we're speeding that are in between that twenty six and thirty mile an hour range. And we we broke it down by that. So you can get a good idea of what people are actually traveling that. Overall, what this tells me as we go through it is that when you're talking about signs and public works and what they can do to help slow traffic down, a sign that flashes like that and warns people of their speed would have a good influence on a place like this here because we did see people slow down after the lights activated on that. So when we're looking at how can we help you know with signage and other areas and things like that a study like this is helpful. You see the number of cars and how many are slowing down afterwards and also gives us a good idea when you're if you were basing a speed limit strictly on the eighty fifth percentile, you know, the majority of people are going this speed. It would help with that. There are other considerations too. On this one, the eighty fifth percentile, the speed was 29 miles an hour. I still think that's too high for the that area. It should be a 25. And so I think it's posted appropriately for that with the pedestrian traffic and the bikers and the the people that utilize that road. I think the 30 would be too high for that. But Chief, I I noticed on the data

on the average speed, and I imagine closing means approaching. Uh-huh. I I would imagine that goes down to 24 because they see this trailer, and they're decreasing. After they see the trailer trailer and they're leaving, it goes up to 25.72.

Yep. So it's they're they're speeding up again. They're speeding back up again. They're speeding back up after the trailer. Is is that what they're actually saying? I thought the away were I thought it was capturing people coming towards

the trailer. Closing is coming. They're closing in on it. Right. From from the front, they're seeing it. Yep.

How is it going away is if away is moving away After they passed it. So it's not capturing people coming the other direction and then towards it. It it's recording speed, both directions. That's what I thought. Yeah. It's recording multiple directions.

So Is it is it the direction that the trailer is sitting, or is is anything that is approaching from either direction approaching Closing. And and anything that's moving away from the trailer is

Away. Away. No. It it's the first way. So it's measuring the speeds as they're coming. It measures it from the front most. Like From the trailer. Yes. From the front of the trailer. As you as you approach the front, that is closing. And as you're anything else is moving away on that. Got it. I know it's kinda backwards for it, but that is how it does it on that.

So would it flash the lights if if if it is facing northbound or or facing north and somebody's approaching from the south,

then would it still flash the lights, or is it only flash as they approach from the It only flashes as you approach it. Yeah. From from the front. From the front. Ah, okay. Yes. Because it's only because it's that's the side of the road it's on. Right? But it but okay. Now I'm now I'm confused. I need to step back.

So I thought it was tracking speeds coming towards it from both directions.

It is. It is. Yes. But the lights are on the on the front of the signs Where the where you that are approaching it. They they're seeing the lights. But if you can't if you're seeing the back of it, it's still As you're moving away and you're speeding, the lights may still flash, but it's behind you? They won't see that on that. So But but they would still flash? No. They if they're away from it, they won't flash. So it gets it gets you a a real true measurement of what you're seeing. If people aren't seeing the, does lights go off right there, then it gives you a true representation of what people are doing, like, just like you're talking about. They're speeding up as soon as they get past the trailer door. Out of the three directions that it could be measuring, it's only measuring or out of the four directions,

it's only measuring one. If you're approaching from it the lights will only come on. There you go. The lights will only come on if you're approaching from the front. If you're moving away from

the front, it will not come on. Right. And or if you're moving towards the back, it'll track you if it's not gonna go. Yeah. It's still recording the space, which what do you see there? If you look at the the last page there, Marcus, if you'll scroll down to that last page. So these are the times and the number of vehicles that in that mile per hour. So 16 to twenty, twenty one to 25, 26 to 30. What this does is it tells us when our best enforcement is. Basically, when the highest volume of cars are moving and the speeds that they're moving at on that.

So That tells you when the most cars it doesn't tell you when

the highest speeds are rated. Right? Or when No. It it does. The the numbers on the top are miles per hour. So the six to ten, eleven to 15 I was thinking that was something else. Okay. Nope. The that's the miles per hour and how many cars we're seeing. So there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight in the 46 to 50 range.

So, I mean, you look at that chart, and it appears like, wow. There's a lot of people going really fast. But out of 6,009

to five.

There's there's really only a very small percentage that are going even more than 10 over. Right. They're going 36 or higher. Even you know, you're seeing some numbers in there. But Well

comparatively, it's 25 on that road. It's twenty five hours. Right. It's double the amount of is

very few out of the 3,410 that were over the 25

that are in that range. And, typically, you aren't gonna stop somebody that's going hate over. Right?

Yeah. It depends really depends on the officer. Time of day and Give it a try, Dave.

Figure it out.

Well, I've got a ride along. No. I mean So Be be the follower punk. Well, no. I

It it does vary per officer on that. Yeah. A lot of the officers stop once they get to 10 over on that. That's when you really start to get it best testing

on that.

So this this study helps us as we look at, okay, guys. We have high speeds here during this time, go up on 7th East, or we have high speeds down here on, 2nd South, go here during this time. It helps us figure out where we need to put people.

Okay? I I was on that road Sunday, and I saw the red light. Mhmm. But I thought it was the one ahead of me. When does it take over for the next car? I think it was flashing at you. What what is that? I'm worried about I think we have three confessions, and he deserves to do it. It it it is noticeable, though. That's the first time I've seen it, and I thought,

oh, I I slowed down immediately. I was quite a ways back because I thought it was a police officer's car. That's the calming influence that it has if people hit the brakes when they come on, which is what we want them to do. But if you're building 20 If there's three cars going towards that, what when does it quit this one and pick up the next one? So it sends out a radar beam like that. It goes out in a 15 degree increment like that. Once that car gets past that a certain point, it picks up the one behind it Okay. On there. So it's hard to tell you exactly when that moves in and out of that, but it it'll pick up on you'll see a change from car to car to car. You just need to start drafting with those speeders, Kirk, and, you know, just slipping right behind it. Chief, where is the trailer going next? So the trailer, I've already moved it. It's up on 2nd South and 800 East up there. It's on the south side of the road as cars are going up the hill on that. Oh, man. Can we cut by going they're catching the ones coming down. That's where they're picking up the speed and come down over that canal. Yep. They come down from the 16th there, and they'll go past. So I'm curious on that one. But stuff like this for, for public works when they're needing to study of how many cars are going up and down the road, this captures that too, you know, of what direction and just time of day and things like that. Those are all things that would be helpful too when you're doing grants. This is great, chief.

Excellent. Get four hundred east and about four seventy north on your schedule. I'm serious.

That's, like, 20 flights north east. Weekend, like further, like, 100 north. Friday

Friday through Monday morning. Because Yep. Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night.

I what we need, Mara, is is two or three more trailers. I I have so many requests right now to put the trailer out there. I'm trying to leave it at a week at a time because I think that Yeah. A really good reflection of all the days and and when people are moving. But there's It's

minus g four. These were $20?

No. This ended up being 11 Oh, something. So Okay. And we So Have just the one. So We have just the one. Yeah. Yeah. We have two older ones that we can't keep power to them. Yeah. But Yeah. They don't have the data capability that this one does. K. So we're taking requests, like I said, for the next locations, but wait.

We'll put the Well, since North Logan isn't here to speak, we'll give you the next three. Yes. Because East is not a road. It's a

landing strip. Sorry. He he just came from North Logan. They already got the next month's schedule. We're we're about an hour late.

Alright. Thank you, chief. Your welcome. Gives us a lot of good data. That's information that we need to have. Absolutely. That helps us especially helps the safety traffic Rear. And safety committee that we're we've put together. Yep. Marcus, let's turn over to you.

Alright. City council. In the folder is the full weekly staff report. A couple key things I wanna highlight. The city office park out here will be closed next week for installing the waterline as part of our project. It's gonna be closed all week, Monday through Friday. So that's a bummer for everyone with kids. But then the pipeline will be installed and project will continue, so we're happy about that. The the only other two other big ones I wanted to highlight. Number one, if you go to Legacy Park this evening, you'll see that we've poured the footings for our new embankment slide. The plan is that next week, we'll pour the foundation and the apron that goes around it. And then hopefully, the week after, we'll pour the actual slide. So that project is coming along quite nicely. And then we gotta put a seal coat on it. Right? Absolutely.

So how can we track or an awareness of how much it's used? I'm just thinking of moving forward if it's the kind of thing that we wanna consider, like, in the survey and put in other other parks. I mean, others Let's go by the park.

That that park is heavily used.

Just I guess, we can visit it. We'll each take a night and see how busy it is. Right? Yeah. Okay. Mhmm.

If you wanna get an exact count, I can figure something out. There's Well, we don't need that. But I cameras. There's motion detectors. There's all sorts of tools out there. But Mhmm. And then the other thing was the Visionary Homes work session that's scheduled for July 9 at 6PM. Both the planning commission and the city council are invited to that. So those are the highlights. There's a bunch of other things on there. Any questions about specific items?

I think the big thing from my perspective is, Mikael is is wrangling in all of our codes and plans, and she's not only hit the ground running, but, sprinting. She's Yeah. She's doing a great job and and providing insightful insight to Marcus of why are we doing it that way? Why not? And so we said It's Tell us what we're doing wrong. Get us do it right and make it better, faster, and she's she's got that directive that let's improve things. So Yeah.

Good addition.

The only other thing I'll give you an update on maybe the chief will help me on this one, on our DEAR report, our our plan.

Absolutely. The DEAR plan has been approved by DWR. They're good to go with that. It'll start August 1 on that. We have everything submitted. I'm waiting for the registration number to come in. And then in the permit package. Yep. Have they given us the number? They haven't given us a number yet. I'm waiting on them, but everything has been turned in and it has been approved. So as soon as they give us that, it's official, but my guys have started to get, some of the equipment that they need. The face shields, they've got, the DEWALT saw, little saws all that they brought. Yeah. They're starting to get prepped for that. And I'd imagine, I said, we'll start with the heaviest

areas that that need it August 1. So, Marcus, we need to we put out that questionnaire on our Citi Facebook page. Mhmm. One of it one aspect of it was, would you be willing to take some? Right. And I know Susan has that. I mean, she's out of town right now, but we ought to get that compiled list. They have names. We ought to put numbers on there, and we're a step of the we're a step ahead of North Logan. They didn't ask that question. Yep. Yeah. It was an optional question on our survey. We asked if

the respondent was interested in taking one of the harvested deer. We asked them to leave a name and contact info. Most of them, we got a name and a phone number and email address. So we'll reach out. That's awesome. We can reach out to the emails and get a phone number for a quicker Right. Access. Because they they I'll have be able to respond with us, giving them a period of time because we don't expect the police to hang out there for three hours waiting for somebody.

Now there's too much to do. Yeah. We'll we'll many other things. We'll compile the list, get all the contact info sent over a nice spreadsheet, and we'll get it sent to you. Thank you. Yep. Getting that here end of this month, first of next. So we'll get that compiled and sent to you, chief. Yep. That's awesome. That plan

will go until 07/31/2028 before we'll have to revisit it again. Three years. Yeah. Three years. Remember, it's not

a removal of all deer. It's removal of thinning the herd in very stressed areas such as mister Ashcroft's field and

perhaps in in your field if you're getting damaged like Mark is. Yeah. I mean, we still have some of them down there. I think the the road has kinda changed their pattern of Yeah.

Because they used to go down those trees west of it.

There's still about 4 or $5 that hang out. Oh, yeah. Mark's got about a herd of 20 up there. So Yeah. Okay.

Mayor, do we have a plan to include that in the August newsletter? Should should we inform the residents somehow on our website, Facebook?

Chiefs are already jumping on that one. I'm happy to I'll submit an article to Donya on that. That includes the hows and whys and all that.

Yep. So Yeah. And what what it is and what it isn't. Yes. So Okay. Great. Thanks, chief. You're welcome.

Chief, are any of the animal are they deer, or are they dogs? Or what are the most of the animal problems that you you have in your status?

A lot of them, to be honest, are noise problems with dogs barking. Too many. We we get constant reports of there's this family has three dogs. They're showing up two. Okay. Stuff like that. But mostly, it's noisy animals on that. We have had a few rock truck problems that have come in. People want us to get rid of their rock trucks for them.

That's what's

I know a guy. Old guy who knows a guy.

Yeah. Look at my neighbor. That's me. So so the tags, the our our deer plan is approved. We had to submit it, and we had to submit the harvesting process. And it is with the police doing the harvesting because there's too many risks associated with people proximity to houses, kinda like where you're talking. But if we're I know North Logan and Hyde Park, we've got some real problem areas, but you have an area thing. We certainly can and I know you've got a a lot of open area in the back. It's certainly something that the chief could look into to come in and do it. They don't do it. Oh, I think the I

But there I think it's a different question. I That's a Yeah. I think the question was more of if he gets a harvested deer and he's got it hanging up and he's Oh. Butchering it in the yard and somebody sees it, he's getting it tag with it. Yeah. That Because anybody that takes it down to Horlockers or anything like that, they have to give a tag,

but you'll have a tag with the deer.

It'll it'll have a DWR tag. Yep. And we provide that report back to them as well as who took it and how many were posted.

So At that time of your Horlockers wouldn't take it without a tag. Well, they shouldn't take any without a tag. But alright. The the next item is if you'll take a look, this is the adjusted new creative agenda. What I've done is action items, if possible. I associate them with goals from our general plan, and the action plans is associated short term. And if there's long term, we'll associate it. So this first one is to consider a request from DWA. It'll we will open this to a public hearing on this one. No? Oh, the other ones. I'm sorry. Consider a request by DWA to do a 4AM concrete pour at the new elementary school. I know on the previous one, on the mid middle school, we had them submit a a plan. Mhmm. And we're requesting that same plan from DWA that that that they have to do continuous pours on certain floors. Otherwise, they end up with structural issues and walls and things. So it'll it'll happen. Some of them are continuous. So they sent us a very good calendar the last time on the middle school, and we're requesting that same thing here and wanting them to comply with that. But they wanted to bring it to the council for approval to get early pours, but we're going to not only say the 4AM, we want a schedule of what they're doing. So it's open it up, and we would approve this on a by

a motion. How how many days are they thinking? Just one

one day? No. It's never just one. Oh. Oh, you are you are with them. Oh, I didn't even see the hat. Come on up if you would.

No. It'll be bald.

Yeah. We will So the the new elementary

has not only is it floor slabs, but it is a tilt up structure. So we know who you are, but can you just say your name for the record? Wayne Anderson. Thanks, Wayne. President of AWA. K. So it'll be multiple pours. They will go fairly fast. They will start probably mid July on some of the casting pads for the walls, and they will probably run you're probably gonna have 15 ish, I would think, maybe

yeah. But they're gonna pour a lot of them at the same time. I think you I think the last time you on middle school, it was kinda like a Gantt chart that you submitted that Yep. We'll same thing. That would please submit that same thing. That's what we'd we know that yeah. Give us a notice, and then we'll we send out a pigeon notice to everybody else to buckle up butter cake because it's it might go happen twenty four seven for a while.

If if You would not have probably more than one or two

at most during any one week period. Yeah. Three days, one week, miss a week, then hit another three days or something like that. But it'll be intermittent like that through October. Yeah. So I guess my question would be, what's what's the real reason? If you're only gonna do it a couple of times a week, can't you start at six or 08:00 in the morning and do it three or four times a week? I mean, I'm really trying to understand if you just need twelve hours or eighteen hours straight so you gotta start with it. Concrete is it's a chemical reaction Mhmm. Depending on temperature,

either accelerates that chemical reaction or decelerates it. And if you go too late in the day That's it accelerates it, and then we get cracking from shrinkage cracks, and it it compromises it. So the real issue is avoiding the heat into the afternoons. It is. If if we were born in a collision.

In March or April, then if you have the opposite problem with cold temperatures. Yeah. We would just start at seven because it's too cold. Right. Yeah. Okay.

Perfect. That's I just need to you know? The nice thing is is that in summer, it's just a morning disturbance. In the winter, you start at seven, but it's backwards. You go till midnight, 02:00, and one Yeah. To finish it out. Right. So Okay. Either way, we hit the the threshold of the noise ordinance.

So Right. Yeah. So, counsel, I I would look for the approval of this is is, yes, pending that Gantt chart. That's what we would be approving and notifying the city, given the sample time to let residents know that sleep with ear plugs for a moment. They yeah. They that's a good cover for you if she's one of them. Oh.

And and every time they violate it, they owe us another, like like, a 100 feet of sidewalk somewhere in the city. 100 feet of sidewalk. It's you know, that's where I heard to throw it out there.

Please don't put that in the minutes.

Well, it's just the belts. Weird. It's just a it's just a penalty. Right? Isn't there a fine, you know, of Yeah. They they

did very well the last time and followed their plan. Yeah.

Well, I'll I'll move that we go ahead and and approve early course starting no earlier than 04:00AM based upon the Gantt chart and prior notification of those days. I'll second that motion. Got a motion from

David and a second from Tiffany. Any more discussion, counsel? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. And any opposed with nay? Thank you. We'll look for that schedule. You probably you probably do it in pencil first, and as it gets closer, then you'll get one in ink. Yes.

Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Gotcha. Alright. Thank you. Thank you.

So Just I'm holding.

K. The next item of business is a to have a public hearing, but to discuss what it is first is to consider a proposed resolution amending the twenty twenty four, twenty five, city budget. Resolution twenty twenty five dash ten. So, Dania, this is absolutely where you shine.

Okay. I can go through as much or as little as you would like, but, basically, the we didn't do a midyear budget adjustment because there was it really wasn't necessary. But this just cleans up the books as we're going into the end of the fiscal year, which ends this ends Monday. Monday. We'll also end up doing a closeout in August or something like that? Yeah. If we if yeah. In August, we'll approve the new budget. But if there's any big amendments throughout the year, we'll do them at that time. If there's not, we'll just do one at the end of next fiscal year. It it just kinda depends on how the the budget year goes.

I shoulda asked you this earlier, Don. You wanna talk? Why the the new budget starts in July? July 1. Why do we not approve it until August?

That so that's the final approval. We've got an we've got a temp Attempt. Interim budget Right. Approved.

Why We just We'll talk about it later. No. We can't approve the final budget until we know what our property tax certified tax rate is. That's right. Okay. And that can't be done until August. Yep. That okay. K.

And then we Yep. Do a final closeout of the previous. This should get us there, these adjustments.

Do you have any questions on the Yeah. Do you have any questions? I think some of the big ones, building permits, I always budget low on that because you never know what the year's gonna look like. And as you can see, it's they're they're so busy now. We're we're doing a lot of building permits, and so we have been able to increase that. Bonus density, we did sell a few of the lots this year. I mean, we did get a bunch a couple of the lots. And the street projects, that's always questionable. We had some more money, and so they were able to spend some more money. So we're adjusting the budget in that. Those are the big ones. The capital projects, they look like big ones because they're in the millions, but it's some of the some of the grants were actually rent well, done last year instead of this year. And but the budget has to be approved before the end of the fiscal year anyway. So it's just kind of a cleanup. It's some of the grants were used last year that we thought were wouldn't be used till this year and vice versa. Some of the grants were pushed back to this year. So it's just kind of a cleanup on our grants. Is the COG roundabout, isn't that number off? Yeah. Yeah. It's just what what was left of it.

That was cool.

And it could I can't show you because the roundabout, we only

we only

Got 350.

Yeah. And it Oh, it's like, $5,500 and something. Yeah.

That might be Wolfpack Way. It's a pretty expensive oh, that's probably that's probably CMPO.

Yeah. Yeah. That's probably CMPO. You've

got CMPO ratings too. That's probably the most.

Yep. That's that's a pretty expensive roundabout. Yeah. Yeah. That would be a very expensive roundabout. That'd be it's all the Smithfield one by the high school. Who approved that? That'd be a federal roundabout, and that's federal money there. Yeah. So that number's less than that. That that one's not correct. Right? Right. Unless Well Maybe the description isn't correct. Yeah. The description isn't correct. The number is The numbers have to match. Right? They have to yeah. Yeah. We've closed out the the CMPO, Wolfpack Way.

Wolfpack Way has closed out, and 700 East, we Is

no. 700 East, we're doing a chip seal in two days.

Right. I think you're right. Yeah. And we figured it out. Yeah. It's just 700 East, not It's the roundabout. Roundabout. It's about 700 East. Okay. Gotcha. So the Anyway, the roundabout's complete. That makes sense. Yeah. 700 East is complete with the exception of one engineering bill, but we haven't we've submitted to get refunded, but we haven't received the money yet. So that may actually go into next year. It most likely will.

Yeah. Because we're doing a chip seal on 700. We won't get the bill on that until after probably July 1, and so it's getting chip seal Friday. Yeah. And then the CMPO is complete, but

except for the wetlands Mitigation point. And so we're close to submitting that one, but that one won't go in this fiscal year either. And the original budget showed that we would get that reimbursement, and we won't get it until next year. So Right. Okay.

Makes sense. Council, do you have any other questions along this? Or we let's have let's open the public hearing portion. There we go. We'll open up for public input or question or comments about the budget adjustment. Having none, we'll close the public comment or question on the public hearing, and we will now turn it to you, counsel, to either have more questions or make a motion to approve resolution twenty twenty five dash 10.

I'll make a motion that we pass resolution twenty twenty five dash 10.

Second.

We got a motion from Stephanie and a second from Kirk. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay. The next item is to have a public hearing to consider of a proposed ordinance enacting compensation increase specifically for city officers, which is the managers, which would be building department manager, public works, and city administrator. So if you pull up that, what we budgeted is 5%.

So, council, this resolution, this is the second year we've done it. It was a new law that got approved by the state legislature in 2024. That required that any department heads or executive staff, such as city manager, assistant city manager, or administrator Yeah. Their increases specifically would have to be approved after a public hearing. So the mayor is absolutely correct. We budgeted for a 5% total increase for all employees, 3% of that being cost of living increase, an additional 2% based on performance as determined by performance evaluations. As you can see, the three being presented tonight are

being recommended for the full 5% increase. We don't have to do it for all employees. We just have to do it for the

senior. So so they must be approved every year. Yep. We we have to have a public hearing, Durham. Any department heads or executive level staff, we have to, by state law, have a public hearing to approve any salary increases for those positions. Yep. So do we have to approve all of these together? Yes. Or is we between two?

Well, you you can actually make any changes you would like right now, Gerald. Alright. I just wanna know all my options. So be aware that that does not mean eight. It means Total. Total. The total of five. Yeah.

So the total is

Five. Five. Is what's been allocated for it. Mhmm. And I would yeah. I'll I'll leave it at that. So we'll have the public hearing the pub open it up for the public hearing at this time for ordinance twenty twenty five dash 16 for compensation increase for the specific city officers. Oh, you don't have to give your address. Actually Well, it just matter. Everyone knows where you live anyway. Thanks. But They do want to ensure Oh. It's right here charging. No pressure. No. We have to I got Now we're gonna driver. We're gonna put you on a real we're start this because we got three minutes. Can Well, I I just Yeah. I'll do it.

Some of them. You gotta you gotta put it up where he can see it, though. Can you see There you go. That's good. Yeah. Your shot clock pretty dim. So last year, you did a four to 7%.

I was here. It was Okay.

Four to 7% after you interviewed them or whatever. K. So and you use Nibley City as a comparison.

We use several cities, but yes. So

this is public information Yeah. That I looked up. I mean, you can type in any of your names and see what you're making. Oh, yeah.

So

as I looked at it and I tried to compare it to Nibley, you can't really do it only on a few because they're, what, they're Different names to their They're set up different. Yes. They are.

Position wise? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So,

I mean, I looked at it, and I'm going, well, I know what each one I've made. Here, I need to get a job for the city. No. I'm just saying. So I compared. Marcus is the one that's underpaid.

Oh, I that's where I said and then I held back. He's probably the lowest paid city administrator in the Valley. Yeah. Nibley makes a $170

a year.

Marcus is still making that. Tell Marcus that. I already know. I know. I know.

Analysis. Marcus could tell us all of this. But their city manager has been around for a really, really Yeah. Long time. He was the recorder before and Three years? Not that I think Yeah. I told Marcus I thought he should get paid, Mark. See you guys. If you're still here two decades, Marcus, we'll talk about it. 1517.

Okay then.

So your highest paid employee is Darren Hancey. You're building inspector.

No. Not not anymore.

Yeah. But he was. According to what I have about

with benefits, he makes a 151,000,

a 185.

With benefits.

Yeah. Yes. Marcus makes

a 100 and let's see. $20.24, a $147.02 47. I dare say Marcus spends 25% more time here than Darren does. I say you get Darren raised. Or I mean, you're getting markets already. So I'm just thinking you got four to 7% last year. You're going up to five this year. How much is my taxes going up?

We haven't had oh, go ahead. I'm not gonna take your time. So I got nineteen seconds on

question. But, yeah, I mean, I got 2% last year. I worked sixty something years to get it. So that's I'm just saying. I looked it all up. It's all public information. Mhmm. So get on to get on to getting on

the. Wow. That's a good Can't lose that.

Beat the shock talk today.

We can change certain parts. We're trying to get ourselves on a new behavior as well. Do we have any other comment on the public hearing portion? If not, we'll close the public hearing portion, and I will go ahead and say that we haven't raised our tax rate for a number of years. Now the value of your house may go up, which would then cause you to pay more taxes. The county may increase their tax rate or something like that. But the Hyde Park City, we're still at the same one. Been for some time. Point zero zero one one. Yeah. And that's what we target for. So but Dane is correct on what he said and know that the with benefits number is about 30% of that or more. How high a percent is that So much. In the benefits, taxes, and that. So I was gonna say about 30% Probably. 40%.

Man.

Yeah. Our benefits package is, like, 30 some odd thousand for the single plan. If you've got a family plan, it's more. I don't know. That is off the top of my head.

Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. And so but, yes, we're he is it's exactly as Sane said, but know that when he quotes a number that that also includes all of the insurances Right. Unemployment, everything, all the what I call the for bully burden rate.

What? So when we when someone's salary is raised, are is the benefit package raised?

Mhmm. No. Burden similar percentage. The benefits get determined when we do our insurance adjustments every year. This year, our PHPR insurance provider, we're able to keep the rate pretty low total. Our benefits packages only went up by 4%, which sounds like a lot, but statewide, that's a really good number compared to what other cities we're looking at.

Yeah. Yeah. So so this five this proposed 5% increase is still wage. And that's just wage. That salary is not gonna impact the cost of benefits. The benefits are budgeted for separately. Correct. Okay.

Thanks. And what is the increase that the staff is getting? Was it 5%?

So we budgeted for 5% across the board. Everybody was a little bit different depending on They're not performance. Full percentage. But I will say, generally speaking, most everybody was recommended for the full 5%. No. Nobody more than 5%, maybe a few cases, a little bit less than that for whatever reasons. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. In that area? The way that we do it is basically we say 5% across the port board equates to this much money. Yeah. Okay. And then as long as the raises don't go above that amount, some people get a little bit more than five. Some people get a little bit less than five. It all goes back to

the merit. Yeah. We've we've looked at positions like treasurer through the valley and recorder through the valley. And we've never aspired to be the highest paying on any position, but we've never aspired to be the lowest. We've we we want to be fiscally sound, but we want to compensate our people for the great job they're doing, and I think our staff is amazing. So Yeah. And I know on for the city having insurance go up 4%, chief would love that if if probably the police department only had that. I don't know what yours went up. Ours went up 3.1%,

but other cities at Logan City, I know last year, it went up 31. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They had a huge increase for their PD. When I was at my city manager's conference, I was hearing numbers from across the state in the 10

like, from eight to 15% across the state. So when we got four back, we said, hey. We'll take it.

So that's a Yep. That's Doing well to manage the costs. So do you have any other questions, comments on that?

One thing I'll just say about it is, you know, I've worked for the state of Utah for years and, I mean, we've had we had years where we didn't even get cost of living.

Yeah. I

knew. Any merit. And so it seems like about every year, since I've been here, We've been giving our people some both, which is, I think I think, good. But sometimes there's probably years where maybe we don't have it to give.

There's I know Daniel will remember this. When I was mayor previously, we had one or two years where we didn't do any raises. We were when I first got in there as mayor, it was we had a very tight budget. We were we had inherited something that that was difficult. And, honestly, I had a sight set on paying off a city debt and probably should have taken more time to do that and compensated people. People's the biggest asset that we have. And but we did that for one or two years where we didn't have raises.

I'll say there's there's two factors we really look at when we determine budgeting for raises. Number one is market. So we look at our positions compared to other cities of similar size. Are we paying comparable in consideration with our population and our overall city budget? We know that we're not gonna be the highest paid city in the valley for comparable positions. It's just not feasible with our budget and with our population. It's just a given. The other thing we look at as far as overall percentage is with my connections with my state group of city managers. They send out an informal survey to the group every year saying, what are you looking at for raises? And so we'll try to match our overall percentage raise in the same neighborhood as other cities in the state just so we're keeping up with everyone else so that when, you know, Logan City or whoever is looking for new people, it's not as enticing of an offer because we've been giving equivalent increases. So there's two factors that we look at. 5% was on the low end of what the rest of the state was doing this year. But with the uncertainty with the market and everything else, we just weren't sure if our budget could handle the same level of increases that we were seeing with some of the bigger cities. So we did budget for the on the more conservative side for raises overall compared to what the rest of the state is doing.

We like I said, we we didn't we know what we budgeted. We didn't allocate all of it. And could you repeat that We one more time? We know that what we budgeted Or or with the staff. Okay. And with the review process, we didn't allocate all the funds that we budgeted just because how the reviews came out. So if you if we had $17 to disperse amongst everyone per hour, we have a small well under a dollar remaining remaining that could be dispersed. Okay. So what do we do with that money that's starting to We we we haven't difference. We haven't venture. We haven't used it. It stays in the budget. It goes this stays in the general fund. They get it up or more else, whatever. It's in the general fund. K. But it is something that we set aside last March when we were starting the budget process that what we were going to try and do because we know that the staff in comparison to like cities nobody compares with Logan, first off. Mhmm. But we compare with similar cities here in Cache Valley. We know where our positions are in comparison to similar positions.

So so if we wanted to increase one person's above the 5%, what what would what could we do?

You

could I I mean, what's available?

Whatever's left over. Like like I said, it's Yeah. It's under a dollar an hour. So if it's under if it were a dollar an hour, that would mean there would be $2,080 left in that budget for for somebody to receive a in a year if there was a dollar. So divide 2,080 up by twelve months.

So so what you're saying is a little left over, but you spent 99.5% of the money's budgeted for salary. So it's not a big chunk of change that's left. Not a big chunk, but

but we we could you could have us don't know what the percentage is is, but it's well it's well under a thousand or 2,000. I think it's closer to a thousand, but you can

And I I just wanna throw out there. We we don't always we never try to maximize Yeah. Every budget. In this case, when we were done giving the raises, looked at the final number and said, oh, we have a little bit left over.

Yeah. Better better than being over and going, oh, gee. Who are we gonna, like, cut back from now? It really speaks to the level of the entire city staff that everyone

in all the reviews with every employee and the supervisors that everyone has recommended for pretty much the full raise. Yeah. It speaks really highly of the city staff. We we haven't had that in years past, and so we have really good we have a really good group right now.

Yeah. So I I agree. I mean, it's kinda like how Dania does her budgeting. She always may project a cost higher than it might be and our revenues lower than it might be just to give us the worst case scenario. Just because we budget it doesn't mean we have to spend it or we don't have to spend it at this time. It could be in the form of bonuses or something like that as well. We do but knowing that we have it there is a good thing too. But any other increase to any of those department heads would require another public hearing. I

see. You can just modify the resolution with I mean, the cost of living, we're not gonna change that because that's a static number that we pull from the Utah retirement systems. But if you wanted to up the proposed total percentage on anybody, you would just modify the resolution. You can't. I don't know what the percentage is. Gonna recommend an increase just because that feels awkward. But the final budget hasn't been approved yet for the next year, so it's still in limbo.

Yeah.

Kirk. I I would say I what do you think? I think I know the purpose of the question, but I went out and looked at other municipalities' budgets that they were approving. And I know I think we we held a tight hand with the police department. We held a tight hand. We watched North Logan. I watched I looked up Hiram. I looked up Smithville, Providence, Nibley, Wellsville, and Richmond to see all of those cities. And then I just got sickened when I look at Logan, so I quit looking things up. But we're at the same rate as most of them. Some are less. I think one was higher, but some were at that 4%, three and a half, 4%. Most were five, and one was just a bit over. So I'm

Good. If we were really tight with with law enforcement, you know, if they were city employees, they would have got they would be getting five instead of three something. Right? Yeah. I mean, so So That's that's hard to I know. Really justify anymore as much as we all I sit here and go, yeah. Sure. Let's let's Which

more of a discussion of what Yeah. The county's trying to do. So

Mhmm.

I I'm all in favor of 5% for our department heads, and I move that we pass ordinance twenty twenty five dash 16.

Got a motion to approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash 16. Is there a second? That motion was that motion was from Stephanie and a second from Kurt. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Aye. Any opposed with nay? Aye.

Aye.

Aye. I I I just was That was a It was a aye. What's the nay?

Okay. We've motioned. Think really the argument that, Marcus made as far as maintaining, keeping up with the market, it's just so hard to get behind and try to jump ahead, then then you lose people in the meantime. We do. So and I don't wanna lose Donya. Well, Randy's not here. On this. But

Well, it's it's the same principle as, like, the tax increase. Right? Where you look at Cache County, they didn't increase their tax rate for, what, a decade, and then suddenly it was a massive jump. Whereas Hyde Park, I had a lunch with the other city managers in the valley, and they were all talking about their woes of doing tax increases and how it's been so many years. And one of them said, who's doing tax increase increases this year? There's only a couple hands, and then everybody's like, where's Marcus? The Hyde Park does one every year. And I said, yeah. We've got one on the schedule. Then how much? I said, right now, it's still holding the rate, and we have everything that we need for the budget just by holding the rate. And one of the people from Tremonton said, how did you convince your city council to do it? And I said, I didn't have to convince them. You get screamed at enough times at those awful public hearings. It makes the yearly increases that are minuscule a lot more bearable, and that's the same idea with these wage increases. If we keep up with the market, you keep your people happier. It's a little bit more of an expense, but it's better than holding off for five years, and then you lose a bunch key people because you can't keep up with the wages. And so then you have to do a massive increase, and it's no fun. So So thank you for doing a Oh, we don't wanna lose anyone. Yeah. I was gonna I was gonna recommend that

maybe midyear, we look at this again because we I mean, we really need to keep the city administrator where most city administrators are. So I don't know. Maybe midyear we look at this again and see if at that time we could support a a midyear raise or something. Yeah.

And there's you know, you're you're all saying this from the chief. He's gonna make my next year difficult now. Yeah. But it's because because I I Yeah. We script. Just as just as we hold all of our departments on a tight fiscal budget, the chief's budget is about 75% made up of personnel versus ours is made up of building stuff and buying snowplow or saving for a sweeper that's gonna kill us for 25% for 5% of our budget. So it it the resources we have a lot of assets as a city. We have a lot, but I think the best asset that we have, everything else is for naught if we don't have the right resources of people, the right human capital. And there's something to be said as Dane will probably remember the saying. There's there's a little nervous trepidation that what we always did in the space program is we went to the lowest bidder. That shouldn't make you feel comfortable as an astronaut. So it's you get kind of what you pay for. So I agree with Tanya. Perhaps we look at it again to see where the position is with the city, where we're at, because I know where each of the treasurer, the recorder, or administrator, public works, where they sit in comparison to other municipalities. I said we strive to be middle,

but in some places, we're not. We're at the bottom. So Well, I I agree with Dania also, and I really appreciate things, comments. I'm looking up that information.

Mhmm. Alright. We've had a motion and approval carried five zero on ordinance twenty twenty five dash 16. The next item is consider a proposed ordinance establishing a tax on gross receipts of telecommunication. We used to have we had a franchise tax. We've been working with one company. I forget their name already. But, anyway, it does matter. They they were paying a telecommunications tax. It is the same thing, just one's a tax and the other is a franchise fee. But it comes out to be with the same money. So we have to before we can enter into an agreement with this company, we have to have that tax established. So that's what 20, ordinance twenty twenty five dash 13. And we have to have a public hearing, so we'll open up the public hearing at this time. Having no comment, we'll close the public hearing and open it to counsel if you have questions or mark us on this. It is it's the equivalent of a franchise tax a franchise fee.

Yeah. I this section here, this is on page three, the bottom of page three. It talks about the levy of the tax and the rate. So the rate of the tax levy is set at 3.5% of the telecommunication telecommunication provider's gross receipts from their services. So this isn't something that's gonna go necessarily out of the residents' pockets. We already have franchise agreements with all the telecommunication providers in the city, and so this is just shifting instead of having a contract that renews over time, and we, you know, look at that rate. We're just adopting a tax that's the same rate. And so in all those agreements, we just change the wording from a franchise fee to that person will or pay the telecommunication service tax. I mean, I'm I learned about this at the Utah League of Cities and Towns Conference we attended back in April. And so I discussed this with the city attorney, and he said it's it can go either way, but we do have one telecom provider seeking a franchise agreement with the city. And they were interested in having us switch to the wording of it being a tax rather than having a franchise fee in their agreement. So So they wanted to go to a tax? Their preferred method in their franchise agreement said they wanted to have to pay the franchise tax rather than have a franchise fee. I don't know why

Does that allow them to itemize it on their bill and just pass it on to a Probably.

There's always a concern, but where it's a percentage of the gross profits, from what I learned at my conference, it can happen, but it's uncommon because then that just means their profits end up going higher, and then they owe more on the tax. So from the anecdotal stories at the conference, most in attendance said that when they adopted that, they didn't see that reflected back on the bills of their people. But it there's nothing stopping us or stopping a provider from doing that.

I would think franchise fee might come out of gross revenues versus franchise tax could be itemized, and they can receive payment for that.

Yeah. So I Bob? This one is one that is an option for us out there, a way to get more tax revenue from the city, but we're already getting this from our franchise agreements. So in my opinion, it's not really, you know, urgent that the city council approve this. This was just a tool that we have in the belt that myself and the attorney agreed that it could be benefit.

In in order for us to enter into an agreement of a company that is currently here that we've had exception with, and they're providing business in Hyde Park that we are not collecting anything from because we don't have an agreement with them. This is their preferred method. And once we get this implemented, then we can get into that agreement with them and start collecting that rev that tax revenue for the city. So it it may not be urgent, but

it's money How does money you're not collecting. How do you does that go through the tax commission, or are you guys just a direct tax?

What it how does that work?

I don't know on this one.

I know that the one that we're gonna talk about next does go through the state tax commission. I'm not sure about this. Imagine it goes all the taxes like that would go through the commission because Yeah. I would The next one will will go through the commission we submit. I mean, I guess I'm gonna just, like,

do a little more research on this particular one and just find out if there's you know, if Citi's gone to the tax from the franchise fruit fee, and now they wish they could go back. I don't know. I just like to I think it's just giving them two avenues to complete the same thing.

How a biz how an entity, a Comcast or or whatever the phone company is called now. What's that?

Telecom, telecommunications, or The telecommunication. So I will point out in section four, it does talk about the city sending a notice to the the commission, which I would assume is the state tax commission. So we do this does go through the state tax commission. Okay.

But it it's to complete the same thing. One might use a franchise agreement like we have with maybe Xfinity or Comcast, and another one might use preferred method to pay the city the same amount of money with the tax.

Mhmm. Yeah. There's in theory, right now, there's nothing stopping Comcast or whoever from attaching another half a percent to the bill and labeling it, you know, administrative fee or something else, and that's what they use to pay the franchise fee. So it as far as the training that I got on it at the conference and in discussion with the city attorney, it's it's like tomato tomato. Right? Like the mayor said, it's two avenues to get to the same destination.

And our attorneys looked at it. It's all the He wrote this. Okay. So all the legal stuff is there. It's Right. It's really sounds like a way to start receiving.

Right. So all all three of the taxes that we'll be looking at tonight were written by our city attorney. He wrote those resolutions. Okay. So

So, Gail, were you making that as a motion? Or

Well, that's just kinda how I feel about it. So I guess I'm

I guess I could make an emotion and then get it voted down, I guess. Get it? I guess guess I'd make a motion. We just hold off and I mean, I just like to look into it a little bit more. We

have a motion to by Garell to continue it to our July next meeting. We have a motion from Garell. Is there a second? With no second, the motion would if there is no second, the motion would fail. Having no second, the motion fails. Is there another motion?

I move that we approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash 13, establishing tax on grocery receipts to telecommunication service providers.

I have a motion to approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash 13. Is there a second? No. I'll second that. I have a second from Stephanie. The motion was made by David. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Aye. Those opposed, say nay. Nay. Motion carries four one. We'll move on to the next item. I'm gonna take off mayor if that's what Alright. See you, chief.

Don't speed out there. Don't speed out there.

We we know where the cops are. Alright. See you. Thank you. The next item is to consider a proposed ordinance adopting a municipal chant transient broom tax, ordinance twenty twenty five dash 14. This came up Years ago. I I'm the one that I requested this because there's at some point, perhaps, we'll get a hotel, but with the VRBOs and the those kind of things, we those that we have, we submit the number to the state when we have this onboard, and the state will, in turn, give us a transient room tax paying for that. Whether or not the state collected that, that's up to them to go back to the VRBOs. Right. It's not up to us, but we will get compensated for those rentals. So So so I guess do we need to do the public hearing before we have to know this? Make sure you understand what it is. So with that, we will open up the public hearing for twenty twenty five dash fourteen adopting a municipal transit room tax. Something that we've missed sometime. It's not a lot, but it beats nothing. Having no public comment, we'll close a public hearing and move it on to you counsel.

I will just say on this topic, I've been in meetings recently where the tax commission in conjunction with the counties are purchasing subscriptions to help identify these type of properties. So

I Change the

See, the city can't go out and search for them, but there is an independent company that does. And they would pursue it with the state. We can't do it, but they can. They pursue it with the state. I have a report. I think they changed the law, though. I I have a report sent to me as well as North Logan has a report of actually how many BRBOs we have in the city.

Oh my gosh.

The owners? Yes. So so yeah. Because I looked on the Airbnb, and there's some not too far from where we're sitting. Yes. And so I does this apply to them? Because it doesn't I mean, it says hotel, motel, home, tourist homes, and as a tourist

BRBOs that were false? So it would apply to only the ones that have been registered for the city. If we only have six registered for the city, then we submit that to the state. But now we can utilize the report that I have, and that can be submitted because we know

how act actually, how many. You're saying this is about four times that. If we approve this ordinance, it will allow us to do that, whereas right now, we can't because Why do it if you can't get a tax? Yeah. We'll have transit rooms tax. Well, the the biggest reason that we'd want

to do chase after the ones that are on the list is to get them licensed according to our ordinance. Anybody operating a Airbnb, VRBO, short term rental needs to have a business license and get it inspected by the fire department and building department. So that'd be the biggest thing. I'm pretty sure when you register your house as a VRBO or Airbnb, they take that information and hand it in to the state and everything else because I don't know if you guys have done one of those recently, but you're always paying taxes on them. So the state tax commission is already collecting the taxes and the data. Yep. All we're doing is saying, hey. As a city, we want a piece of that. And so we're adopting a 1% charge that will turn into the state tax commission. Then when they charge their taxes for that, they'll take an extra 1% and send it back to us. Right. Yep. Yeah. The other thing too with those is

depending on how they use it personally,

they could lose their residential exemption on them as well. Oh. Yeah. Well, we've got one, I won't say where it is, that we know about that gets used as a pretty popular wedding venue most springs and summer times, and we get lots of complaints usually when they've got cars parked up and down the street and big parties going on in their backyard.

Yeah. So, anyway, it's Oh, I went to that. It's an issue around

I know which one that is. It's a it's a issue around the whole state. All the counties are dealing with it, cities. So And we do have, I think, five that are legally We do. Yeah. That they have applied with the city and are very legal. So I'm sure there's a lot more out there, but we do have five at least five that are compliant.

Yeah. K. Yeah. About 25.

Well, this seems like a slam dunk. So I make a motion that we pass ordinance twenty twenty five dash 14.

Got a motion from Stephanie to approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash 14, implementing a municipal transient room tax. Is there a second? I'll second that. Second from Tiffany. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? The next item is to consider a proposed ordinance imposing an energy and use tax under the municipal sales and use tax. That is ordinance twenty twenty five dash 14 or 15. Excuse me. Marcus, can you you've we spoke about it, but you know the particulars better than I.

Yeah. And the short version is this is the same thing as the telecom one that we just looked at, but it applies to municipal energy providers, like your electric companies and your gas companies. There's a few differences, a few nuances, but generally speaking, they're it's the same idea. And we're just trading franchise fee for a tax.

So is is, like, the gas company currently

are they under a franchise fee? Or Yeah. So we currently have a franchise agreement with Questar. Well yeah. But they became Enbridge. Enbridge. Yeah. But our old agreement's still valid. When they switched over, the we contacted them to see if they needed to renew, and their attorney reached back out and said, nope. They still keep the old trademarks, so all the old agreements are still valid.

Okay. We don't have anybody currently beating on our door that we're losing funds on this one

that wants to utilize this. You're just creating a second avenue for Right. We're doing the same thing the same thing that we did screening a a second avenue. Like, you see the section seven. It says that this adopting this has no effect upon existing franchises. And in fact, it can provide credit back to those franchisees if we're, well, I mean, you could be done in section b.

Alright. So let's at that point, let me open up the public hearing portion for ordinance twenty twenty five dash 15 or the imposing energy and use tax under municipal sales tax code. Having no comment, we'll close that portion and turn it back to you, counsel.

I'm good with that. I was just saying section three, though, it looks like there's a couple words missing. The first line and any changes in rates made, and then you're missing the word by, and, I mean, that's not a big deal, but the next line says after the ninety period beginning. So probably, I would say ninety day period just to be more exact. My kids call this the red pen of death when they asked dad to read one of their papers for school.

That's good.

But it was But they kept asking for it.

Any more comment or input on this?

If not, we'd look for a motion to approve or continue or disapprove. I move that we approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash 15, imposing energy and use tax on the municipal sales and use tax, so forth and so on.

So we've got a motion from Dave to approve ordinance twenty twenty five dash fifteenth. Second. And a second from Kurt. Any more discussion, counsel, with with the amendments that And the Right. Friendly amendments that he made? Mhmm. Okay. Any more discussion, counsel? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Nay.

I'm doubling

them. Go go in or go home, man. You're going for it. Alright. The next item on the agenda, motion carried four zero four one. I almost discounted your nay. I gotta close this out. Get back to my document here. Is having a public hearing and then consideration of a proposed ordinance. Oh, no. Pass that one. Consider resolution twenty twenty five dash o six, a resolution accepting a petition for annexation of certain real property. What that property is? Well, first off, to explain what this petition does. This is not accepting an act annexation. It's you're accepting them to continue into the annexation process. The paperwork is now at the county to be annexed into Hyde Park. This is our first step after the county takes and reviews it and goes through their process 90 or something like that. There's an open plan on it, then it will come back up for the actual annexation hearing. So that is not what this is. This is just a petition to do it.

So this land resides in the county at the present time? Currently, it's on the highway in 4400.

If you look up at the map Mhmm. It is the property north of Bringhurst Subdivision.

This would be the very northernmost property a lot like, with this would border Smithfield City. Yeah. So we couldn't annex anything further north. This would be the first time that we have this agreement with our

Agreement with Smithfield. Is that right? Yes. Right.

And with utilities going up there with the Bringhurst, that makes it that much more attractive to annex. So

Just as an FYI, if for any reason the city council didn't want this property or a future property to be annexed into the city, this would be the stage when you would vote no, and you just stop it before it even begins. Yes. Not recommending that at this stage. I'm just But that saying in for future reference, if it ever came up that we didn't want a property to be annexed, this is where you would say, no. Thank you and vote no. So if we say yes now and then down the road with Same. And all we say, no, they're going like,

why are you doing that? That that would be

Yeah. Like, at this point, we can say no just because, you know, we're we're not ready for it or, you know, whatever reasons from the general plan. And when we get if we voted yes and then got to that next stage, we would have to have a higher burden of of proof to deny it. There would have to be Yeah. Pretty concrete reasons. Let's get to know. That is

But but this is in our I don't I don't remember what to call it. The general plan, our future annexation I think. Correct. Plan. So I I guess the way it would work, at some point, we might wanna go out to say to somebody and say, hey. We'd really like you to become part of the city, and we ask them, or they come to us in this case, wanting to do it and just, like, yeah. It's gonna happen sooner or later. And then Yeah. I think also you can't

annex an island, so we'd have to if there was property in between, we'd have to go to them and ask. Yeah. Right. Which

So for example, Smithfield for years had this unofficial mantra that they weren't gonna develop anything up past the power lines. And so whenever annexation petitions came in beyond the power lines, they said no because I think they had it in their general general plan or something. And so there's anything beyond that, they said, nope. We're not gonna annex you in. So that would be if we had something in our general plan that said, we don't want to take all that county land that borders Smithfield, then this would be the point to say no.

How will this impact Wolfpack Way North? And right now, working with us, the and that's the that's the parcel the county has in this game. Right? Because One of them.

What they have a half a road on a couple of those. Okay. But but that that allows us to negotiate with that property owner.

Does does that make the the process any easier if they're part of the city. Right?

It's just It makes it so we negotiate with them and not the county. Well and another thing we could do is when it comes time to actually vote on the annexation, we can work with mix mister Nixon in the meantime to come up with an agreement that makes his annexation conditional on him dedicating property for that road. We can't force him to do all of it for free. That's would be against the law. Right. But There's a we could not Extortion. Extortion. Yeah. But we we could force him to enter into an agreement to for just compensation Yeah. To indicate that road as a condition event. He knows there's a road going in there. It's been on the master the And he Oh, yeah. What Mark has said too. Yeah. Okay. He's he's had multiple conversations with Amira and myself about this very topic. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So is there any downsides to this? I can't think of any.

And just because we accept the annexation doesn't mean

we automatically rezone at what they're requesting. Even though I'm not against what When they try into annex, they typically ask for a zoning. Right. Right. They request a zone, and then this is treated just like any other rezone request. It goes to the planning commission for public hearing. And,

anyway, it and then it'll come back it'll come back to you guys to fit that zone. May have mixed use. Yeah. They they do have it there, but I was just that's what I was saying. I just wanna make sure that was correct. So let's let's open up the

public hearing portion. Public Oh, it's not. It's by disclosure. Not on the agenda. Resolution?

Just a resolution

Is it in Oh.

Later, but this is That's true. That's true. Okay. So we just need to move move to adopt I moved to adopt resolution twenty twenty five dash zero six, petitioner from Scott Nixon to annex

It's about 22 acres. Yeah. Okay. K. We got a motion from Dave to accept.

I'm gonna second this.

Well, it means I'm gonna have to vote for it. We're we're gonna get a yank here. It's a nay?

So I've got a motion from Dave and a second from from Gerald to accept a resolution, 2025DashO6 annexing mister Scott Nixon's property. Not annexing, but a petition to annex. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. You could you can second and still vote against. Alright. Motion carries five zero. The next item is to have a closed session to discuss the purchase of a real property that we're in discussion with. And to do that, we would need to do we need to take take five first? Yeah. Take a Sure. Five minute Mayor.

Deep break and then then come back and do this? Mayor, could we do a couple things? So we are live streaming right now. We will not be live streaming during the closed session. And the way our software works, it's gonna be hard to live stream after. So if I could propose with motion and go into closed session Take a break. I would for the record, I could do an explanation to be on the live stream, and then we can take the break and start the session. Okay.

So Make a motion that we go into an executive session.

So we got a motion to go into executive into closed session

Well which is off often called executive session. But Closed session is the term in land use law. Can

can spend an hour and a half and explain all the trouble they got into because of the use of that term. Oh. So we got a second for stepping. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay?

Alright. Okay. For the livestream, we will be ending the livestream for the closed session. We will not be renewing it. But after the closed session is over, the city council may return to normal session to vote on the issues discussed. Thank you. We will end the the recording for the regular session. Yeah.