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City Council 8.27.25

2025-08-28

Mayor

I missed it somehow when I looked watching earlier today.

Council Member Dave

So, yeah. Yeah. I guess I'll sign up.

Council Member Tiffany

Oh. I have no digitization to $2.50.

Mayor

I missed it somehow. I missed it somehow. So now it

Council Member Dave

Yeah.

Council Member Tiffany

Yep. Oh, I have this What was it charging? It's charged. Yeah. It said so.

Mayor

So it's

Council Member Dave

anything. Yeah. And so That was before that. That's why I'm saying, yeah, I don't just go there or that. Yeah.

Mayor

You make phone calls, though. And I think I think there's a way.

Council Member Dave

Trust and trust and and this And he takes care of trimming around signs and stuff like that so we can meet you. I see. Well, just see it. Sign. Because Depends. Well, so Usually, it's personal. So Jason

Mayor

upgrade the task.

Council Member Kurt

I'm talking about the one by my house, the one that goes

Mayor

to Smithfield. I am.

Council Member Kurt

415. And then you you go down there. On the right hand side, it's no homes. There are pine trees and the other side, there's Okay. A neighbor complaining to me about, I think, you know, there's supposed to be no parking signs on that side of the road. And Yeah. Yeah. So I drove over there, and I found three of them. We can follow them. But they're hard to see. They need to be attached. Or whatever. They're just or just get the foliage. I can see how you wouldn't see a

Mayor

At least two of them. I'll be honest. Yeah.

Council Member Kurt

And then and then and then also while we're doing it Yes. You need to do that stop sign that went on to it. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

Mayor

The same the same company. 400.

Council Member Dave

I haven't received that product. So was it yet? She said What's that? What? Do the trivet.

Council Member Kurt

On the on the corner of It's small. Of I'm not sure if you realize. I can show you on a map.

Mayor

Oh, this is map. We noticed Yeah. Message. Yeah.

Council Member Dave

So we're gonna go down here. Yeah. It's great.

Mayor

Everybody's happens every year. We'll contact them. So Yeah.

Council Member Dave

It lives in the along here. They don't wanna be here. So they just stay on the there's probably one here, one here, one here. No parts to put the arrow because they need to be trimmed.

Council Member Kurt

They're I can see how they've missed one of it. And I noticed the foliage is getting bad on the stop sign there. Yeah. She's like, gambling, you're coming down.

Mayor

You almost have to pull out the fumes. And then look at it quick. That's what it is. Alright. I got that note of it. So there's no reason.

Council Member Kurt

And then I had another guy call me, and I went up there and looked at it, and the stop sign were there on eight hundred It's about that time. Mark was speaking. Did they just put up or did he not see them? Or It's a dead end, the one that goes out, you know, the And then the 800

Council Member Dave

to Mexico

Resident

at the end go to the cross region at the dead end.

Mayor

It's kinda like

Council Member Kurt

There's there's a stop sign. Thank you. No. This is right and the one on this road. I'm gonna put that in the council. Hopefully, there hasn't been Yeah.

Mayor

Been blowing through that. I know

Council Member Kurt

where I live and now I have stopped, but I can't remember if there's a stop sign there or not. But I went up there, and it's in now. So Let's go. Either he didn't see him or We can certainly.

Marcus

So real quick,

Council Member Dave

this meeting will have the Zoom option. We have to have stable up. So it'd be good idea if we're gonna open comments start. He's physical. Awesome. If there's anyone on Zoom, who wants to comment? Just remember that. We'll take it out. Yeah.

Mayor

Going? Alright. Hello, and we wanna welcome you to our Hyde Park City Council meeting for August 27. I appreciate all those that come and attend and be involved in the city. The I first want to excrete excuse Stephanie. She is out of town on family business. And, also, the chief, he is attending services over in Tremonton. If you didn't know, one of the officers was had worked for us for a few years, Eric Estrada. And so he he's over there attending the services there. We're also looking I think is We saw Gerald Long Gerald, he's he was going to try and chime in. No. Beyond it. Okay. Gerald was gonna he may catch up to us. He's been out of town, and he's trying to catch up to us on Zoom as well. But we are changing the item item to Kurt Brower. He's going to lead us in a prayer and pledge if you could go.

Council Member Kurt

Our heavenly father, we're so grateful for the opportunity we have of living in this great land and especially this great city. We're grateful for the many blessings that we enjoy and pray that that will help us to as we conduct the business of the city, that we can do it in the manner that would be beneficial for the betterment and safety of of our citizens. We ask a special blessing on Tremonton and the families of those two officers that they lost, that they may be comforted, that may be blessed as they go through this extremely hard trial. We're grateful still that we have all we do have, and we pray for guidance and help in all that we do. We pray for these things and do it in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Lead me in the pledge, please. Mhmm. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America

Mayor

and to the Republic for which it is. When one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. The next item of business on here is the acceptance of the council meeting from August 13. Dave, do you have any comment? I don't. Tiffany? No. None for you, Kurt. So I'd look for a motion to approve the meeting minutes from August 13.

Council Member Kurt

I'll move that.

Mayor

Got a

Council Member Dave

motion from Kurt. I second. From Dave.

Mayor

Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion carried three zero. The next item is to approve the agenda that I've already changed a little bit Right. With Kurt. So there's no other changes that I have on there. If you don't counsel, I'd look for a motion to approve the meeting minutes as amended.

Or the agenda. Excuse me. The agenda as amended. I'll move that we accept the agenda as amended.

Got a motion from David. I'll second that. And a second from Tiffany. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Thank you. The next item that we have on the agenda is a time for open resident input on any item that isn't currently on the agenda, which, obviously, we have the tax the property tax and the final budget are on the agenda, and we'll have an open hearing for the property tax. So that will come later. But it's a time to have comments on any item that isn't on the agenda. We ask that you limit your your comments to three minutes, and we also ask that you give them in a form of a quest a form of a statement, not a question. And know that if you have questions, you can reach out and talk to any of the council, the staff, myself so that we can get some dialogue beforehand versus trying to come up with things as we as we go. This is the time to present to the council, and the council may come back after all the public comment and ask questions, but it's a time to to receive any input that the residents may have. So at this time, we would open it up for public input and invite you to come forward at this time. Having none, we'll close that public input portion, and we'll go to the council business. I have a a few items to report out on. On the September 16, we will be reviewing the draft presentation during our weekly meeting with Sunrise. It'll be at Sunrise office. We wanna be able to get that presentation together and and make it as clear and crisp and concise as possible. We we have two phases of Wolfpack Way, and we put both of them on the on the ask, but we know that that's a that's a heavy ask. So we're I just want to leave the second one on there. One phase on there to let them know that that's coming the next time around. So we'll truly be going after one of those. It's about 5 and a half million is what we're looking for on that that grant. Just as a reminder, tomorrow, there's services up at USU for Eric Estrada. He served with us for a few years. Don't know if you noticed the picture that they had in the paper. He had the North Park Police Department patch on the shoulder. That that was the one that they put in there. Just a little update on DWA with the waterline that's I was gonna say moving at the speed of government, but it's not that quick. Oh, I'm sorry. I got a little sorry. Just a little softer today. The waterline is is going in. There's a couple of days that we're giving some grace time on, but they are this week, it got shut down again out here towards the front because drilling under the canal, we're putting that in, and they are up at about 500 east right now, continuing up to the tank. After getting it in, obviously, there'll be some testing and and things to do, but we've also got to part of this improvement is to surface, put down new asphalt, curb and gutter along there as well on on the north side of the street. So that is moving forward. Marcus, do you have anything else that you wanna bring up?

Marcus

Council, I apologize. My staff report was loaded into the box today. I've been a little under the weather these past couple days. There's nothing, very pressing to report other than one thing I forgot to put in our staff report is we're wrapping up our audit of our stormwater system, and we have a lot to work on. But overall, the state is happy with the progress that we are making and the speed that we are making it. So we're getting good feedback there and a lot of improvements to our policies and procedures.

Mayor

Marcus, do you do you recall when public works will be going out with the the hot or cold patches for potholes before? Is that

Marcus

I don't know how that information right now. Pardon? I do not have that information right now.

Mayor

One area that we need to I've had a some resident input. They need to look at that 575 East. There's some holes as we know with that road, some patches that we need to look at. So let's make sure that that's on the Brett's list. K. We usually repair as complaints come in and consider that

Marcus

as coming in. I'll make a note. Okay.

Mayor

The next item of business is to open a public hearing to take resident's input on the proposed tax increase to maintain the certified tax rate. Before we go into that, I wanna explain we what what this means is the tax rate that the city has on the home stays the same. It's the state in the truth and taxation requirement says that if we had a thousand thousand roofs in the city, we collected x amount of dollars on property tax for those thousand residents. When the the let's say we added a 100 new homes in the next year. The state would say, well, the amount of money that you you obtained last year is your rate. Everything should go down. Even with that 100 new homes, you should collect the same amount as what you had the previous year. So in doing that, that doesn't take into consideration new infrastructure that the city now has to to maintain. Doesn't take into consideration newly levied bills that the state puts out on us, such as our moderate income housing or water and stormwater requirements. And it doesn't take into consideration any inflation and costs of materials going up as we try to maintain the the infrastructure of the city. So if we maintain that same rate for the additional 100, the city is now picking up additional funds. If the houses the value of the houses go up, we then are getting a higher tax amount amount of dollars. The tax rate is the same. It's just, you know, you you pay more on a if your house was 750,000, now it's a million, you're gonna pay more taxes just on the and the county county count the county, audit group is the one that sets the values of our homes. And there's a whole cycle that they go through on doing that, a five year cycle to cycle through all the age requirements of the homes. For example, I think one is, like, 1920 and earlier, and then they have a next band of homes. And in five years, they would have done a good cross sampling of the appraisals of of homes. So that's that's how they're working that part of it. Also, I would have you note that the the amount that we're projecting that would be increased, our public all of our public safety requirements, fire department and police department, our property tax that we collect as a city doesn't cover that bill for police and and public services that way, emergency services. So that's that's where that money goes. So that it's kind of an offset. And, hopefully, as the long term as we bring in there's businesses, industries that's looking to come into Hyde Park. And as most of you probably know that they are taxed at a 100% property value versus your homes at 55%, that then can increase the funds of the tax revenue for the city, which might actually decrease the residential rate as you get if we only have 20 of the of our property taxes coming from commercial entities and 80% come from residential, that's a that's one way to define the burden of taxes. But now if 40% is coming from commercial, it can reduce the burden on the residential. So there's offsets. And we do we've been actively working with businesses to come, and, hopefully, we'll have there's one groundbreaking that's coming up in September. So it it's the tax rate's definitely not something that we take lightly. We have a lot of consternation. We look at other communities. I know all of the communities on the West Side Of The Valley that do not have commercial businesses, they're the highest tax rates in the Valley. As you come along the the East Side where we have commercial entities or commercial businesses, our rates are lower because we are able to leverage and bring it in off of the commercial side of of the property. So know that Dania does a great job at on our budget, and I I think we've been speaking about this for some time, and I hope you take that into consideration. So we'll open it up now for public input. And if you would just come forward and state your name and and give us some input on on on what you would like to on on this proposed tax rate. So we'll open it up at this time.

Council Member Tiffany

Did you tell me in three minutes? Yeah. Three minutes if.

Mayor

Okay. Woah. Oh, boy. That's hooked to an electric prod in my chair. Great.

Shannon Rhodes

I'm Shannon Rhodes. I just I know. So I have no issues with funding the police, obviously. I'm a res I grew up in Tremonton, so I understand Yeah. Now, but more than ever, the importance of that. I think the thing is I get where we're what we're looking at here, but we're also looking at Cache County School District raising us a substantial amount. So while it may only be 10.49 from the city, then we're asking for an additional amount from them. And my concern is is if I'm gonna be paying more, I'm gonna expect more as a resident here. And so my I I I'm glad that you mentioned the businesses because that was my biggest issue is what are we doing to bring in more revenue to our city that is not gonna come out of my pocket? Because it to me, I'm I'll never understand why I have to drive to Smithfield or North Logan to pick up a gallon of milk because there is no store in Hyde Park that I can get that without paying a lot more money for it. And so I just wanna know what plans the city council has to continue to pursue businesses and to per continue to pursue other revenue so that we're not always every couple years having to do this again. Because I'm a single person. I I don't even have kids in the school district. So I look at that percent and I go, holy crap. And now I'm gonna pay property tax on top of that to the city. And so it's just a lot of money to ask of people. And so I'm just gonna ask more from you guys to be a little more transparent with what the plan is as far as revenue other revenue besides our property tax. K. Thank you. Yeah.

Mayor

Anyone else with comment? Having none, we'll close that. Did you raise your hand or oh. Oh, sure. Nope. I closed it, so it's not just Okay.

Resident

I'm I'm here. You have a cost of five park resident. According to the notice of proposed tax increase, five park city, it says in here this is on the utah.gov website. It says that this is a what is it? 10.5% increase in the tax rate. It lists that on a $800,000 residence oh, I'm sorry. 600 some thousand dollar resident. The tax will increase from $330 to about 360, which is about 10%. Mhmm. Well, this is fairly substantial rate increase. And I'm not sure who's getting a 10% raise here because most the rest of us aren't. Yeah. So, I mean, it's it's a it's a substantial increase in rates. And if anything, I assume I think the property, you know, the number the property values have been going up, which should be increasing the revenue to the city just because of that. So I'm I'm just really surprised and this seems like a very large tax increase. Now you say that the property taxes don't cover the fire and police department, but some have this this been covered been covered by other taxes in the past, obviously, if that's the case. I don't know what's changed now that's requiring that we need a 10% tax increase.

Mayor

Okay. Thank you. Any other comment? Having none, we'll close that public portion. I'll tell you that I had a a conversation with the school district actually this week on their their public hearing is tomorrow night. I I think it's at the South End Of The Valley. And I I'm told him I'd much rather be dealing with the one I'm dealing with than the one they're dealing with. But they and I was talking to the CFO for the school district. He said that he has to follow the same noticing that we do. What isn't on there is the debt that's retiring or the debt that they're restructuring in the school district. So although that's being advertised as a tax increase that way, he said with the retirement and restructuring, it'll be I just he said it'd be very little, if any, on an actual overall bill. That's what I got from him on the school district. I I don't know. I'll see when I get my tax notice. But that that's what they told me on the school one. I I that I don't Whether that's correct or not, I don't know. As far as businesses, we have, like I said, a groundbreaking tentatively, the September for a medical complex that's doing a substantial investment in in the city. We've been working with property owners. The big thing that they are challenged with is is and I think you're in real estate, I thought.

Council Member Tiffany

Isn't No. She's not. She's a social Okay. I thought anyway, I

Mayor

is the different things require a certain number of rooftops. That's what they're looking at is population within proximity. And and we're getting to that point. There's, as I understand it, a couple of large parcel owners that are talking with companies where you could buy grocery, where you can buy milk closer, but we'll see. And nothing has come into us on that part. We're working with employers, big companies to come in, and, hopefully, that's gonna come out in this fall. So we're actively work working to try and recruit businesses and have business, developers as they're developing along the Wolfpack Way requiring a certain percentage be dedicated for the commercial. It's a matter of getting the commercial to come this far north, and that has to do with population. So we are we're working on it, trying to do it. It's I I think it's gonna happen. People, they're gradually coming. We've had some developments. Three of the corners at Green Canyon High School are in Hyde Park, and we have proposals on all three of those corners. That still doesn't mean you can drive down the road. You're still driving pretty much essentially into North Logan, but that is our commercial area on three corners at Green Canyon High School. The as far as the tax rate, it it's advertised as a tax rate increase, but our tax rate is staying at point zero zero one one. It's similar to and and the state doesn't live with what they require on the cities. If you paid $3 for a gallon of milk and the next year during COVID, it went to $4.50, you're paying more sales tax on that gallon of milk because of the inflation of the milk. That's how it is with the houses. As the property house values go up, we collect more taxes. That's considered a tax increase. That's why we're having this public hearing now. Our tax rate is is, like, actually, for a number of years, it's it's hovered at point zero zero one one. That's a number you'll see on your tax statement when it comes to your home. That's what it's was last year and the year before, and it'll be it's proposed to be that same rate this coming year. It's just the values of the homes are, as this gentleman said, as they continue to go up, then we pay more taxes. And, obviously, people are looking for more things that we can do, giving back into the city. I know Dania brought up a lot of the improvements we've been making, in in the city with roads, water, Wolfpack Seven Hundred, the roundabout, the the well, Montego Shoreline Trail, the sidewalk that we put in up here, that was all grant money that we've been doing in in the last three years. It surprised me when Donya told me, is it $1,415,000,000 that we've received in grants? So that that's getting the money that you pay in taxes that goes on the other side of the mountain, getting it back here to Hyde Park. And we're earnestly always working to try and get that as you you heard among my comments that we're trying to go in after 5 and a half million dollar grant this fall. So for Wolfpack Way, and, hopefully, we can once that goes in, then you get the commercial, and and then we have to plan and be smart about how we grow, where we grow, because we all like our quality of life. So we have to maintain that, and some of that means getting Google Fiber in. That means parks and trails. And so it's trying to control and maintain and grow where we where we can grow and retain and maintain our quality of life in the other parts of the city so that I've always told people that I live close enough yet far enough away from Logan. I like that. But, apparently, a lot of people have found that out. It's no longer a well kept secret. So as as we continue to grow, we gotta be smart about how we do that as a city. And I think that comes into all of the plans we've we've done master water plans, sewer plans, stormwater. We're working on that one now, trying to plan for the long term how how and where the city should grow so that we can be smart about it because we got one chance to get it right. So with that, on the close, I will turn it to the council for discussion. You've you've had the the data sent to you as far as as what various tax rates would be, you cannot go you cannot propose anything higher. You can propose lower, and then it would just require taking funds out of other departmental areas to help us spread that out. But I'll turn it to you, counsel. If you have questions, Dania's here, Marcus, and myself, we can try and give you some input. Do you have anything else on it, Marcus or Donya, that you could I just I Yeah. I was gotta turn and look at you. You you don't have to. I was better better off if you don't. No. I was just gonna say I

I've seen the work and effort that's gone into the budget that's been created. I see the continued growth. I see all the things happening in the city, and I think the staff's done a great job in in how the resources are being used and tracking the budget and managing the assets that we have. And I just don't see that lowering the rate so that I don't pay extra money each month based on the value of my home. I I I think that'll get us in trouble. I think we see that in other cities that try to keep that rate low, but the growth continues to or lower their rate to keep the taxes at the same amount. And then over years as their cities continue to grow and they have more and more expenses, then at some point, they've gotta really jump that increase up. So I I think a little each year to stay up with the growth is the right thing to do. So I I would

you know, my recommendation is is to to approve it. I know. I I also due to another board I sit on, I had an opportunity to speak with the chair of the Cache County Council. And they're the tax increase that they're having, they're actually increasing the tax rate. I pulled up data to look at what Hyde Park has done since 2016 and what Cache County has done since 2016. Cache County, it looks good. Hey. I didn't increase your taxes, but their revenues kept going down because they kept the the tax rate keeping it decreasing it each year because of the expansion in the county, more residents. So they were decreasing the tax rate. Their revenues for the county was going down. Hyde Park City maintained the same point zero zero one one. There was one or two years that we dipped, and then it came back. And this the revenue on the city was at least keeping up with inflation, keeping up with expanded expenses, things like that. So it it when if you looked at it, it looked like an x. And I'm like, alright. Because somebody in the county had said cities aren't pulling their weight. And before I open my mouth and put my foot in it, I wanna look at the data behind, and nothing substantiated anything they had to say. So as I spoke with the county council member this week, I said that's you you've got a self inflicted wound. This is what you guys created this. And and now this is what you have to bear that brunt of what you're doing in a public setting. And that's as Dave said, if you just stay somewhat similar to where you're at, Inflation will help you help the inflated cost of asphalt going up. You know, our inflated cost, unbelievable, the cost of pipe going into the streets, things like that. And and and I would say that we get tax funds from there's others funding sources, but they they also come in in different colors. For example, our class b and c road funds, the gas tax, that's a tax that we receive, but that can only be used on roads. So there's a few things that we have that can be in the general fund, but other funds that we receive come in with colors on it. They can they're flag flagged for roads, flagged for water or sewer, things like that. So we can't can't commingle that. So, no, I appreciate the input. And Dave,

Council Member Kurt

Kurt? I want the public to know that I feel what they're saying because you can't argue that. I mean, we don't like it. I've got my eyes open big time just in a lot of the planning we do as a city that I have the responsibility to be part of. And that is some of the things that are out there that could cost us I mean, we're an aging city, and there's things like pipes underneath the ground that are aging. And and I know that we don't have the roads that we'd all like to have, But I think our staff and that does a great job, but would I like better ones? Absolutely. Do we have the money for it? No. We don't. Everything is you know, I'm not telling you anything nobody here that doesn't know, but things just keep going up, up, up. I just had some work done on my house and pretty expensive. And they didn't give me a discount or because I was a council member or anything.

Mayor

But things are costly.

Council Member Kurt

And it it it and it's really we have to keep this city running and, you know, and just like this pipe out here, we'll all benefit our kids will probably benefit benefit from that more than we will, but that's nice to have that well. It's gonna be nice to have it tied in. And this year hasn't been a very good year as far as As far as water. Dryness. I mean, we could be headed for more problems. And so I appreciate the grants we've been able to get because they have helped us immensely. Not that I'm think grants are the answer, but they come with strings too. But we wouldn't have some of the things we've got right now if it wasn't for that. I appreciate the the work of our staff and and the mayor. A lot of hours are put in on our behalf, and I I appreciate it as council member. I see it now as a council member. Do I wanna vote for this? No. But I I will because I think it's necessary. I don't wanna get in that spiral getting you know, what do we say by doing nothing this year? We just everything goes down and lower and lower. I don't want that to happen either. It's still not the answer, but I appreciate being able to speak towards it, mayor.

Council Member Tiffany

Do you have anything, Tiffany? Just so I have similar thoughts, I feel like baby stepping it is better because our need for our the need to meet the needs of our community, the tax like, the taxes just don't cover it. And we hear constantly, we hear, why aren't my rows being plowed in the snow, you know, in the winter? There's not we don't have the snowplows to cover the work, and that's something we're working towards getting another snowplow. I'm grateful that we revamped our general plan and that we're working that plan to do just that to get commercial and bring that sales tax in so that maybe we don't have to keep this is our only tech source, but right now we don't have much alternative. If we wanna meet the needs of our community, it's gonna be on the shoulders of our community until we can increase that commercial base, but we're working hard to encourage it into court, those opportunities.

Mayor

Yeah. I know miss Rhodes brought up the commercial. Just as an FYI, out of all of the property tax, and and I say this a bit tongue in cheek, with our thriving business sector that we have down there, we get two and a half, three times more money off that sales tax than what we do off of our residential. So she's absolutely right. Bringing that commercial and and getting pushing developers. They wanna build townhomes out. You're gonna build commercial too. You we want to get that business in there and get that tax base. That in turn will help us lighten the load Yeah. And help the city out in the long term. I I was just taking an inventory up here as there's three of us up here that are no longer in the workforce. So we understand it very clearly about tax increase and how that impacts us. I I can ask for increase, but I tend to think we won't get it from pensions or our retirements. Someday, hopefully, Social Security will still be there for me. But if there's no other comments, counsel, I you have all of the information ahead in front of you. I would ask a motion of on the, item b, Consider resolution twenty twenty five dash 12, a resolution adopting the certified tax rate of point zero zero one one. And like I said, you cannot go higher. You can you can recommend lower as a counsel. And I think you you received the an Excel sheet what that does.

Council Member Kurt

I'll make that motion.

Mayor

Got a motion from Kurt to approve the resolution 2025Dash12 adopting the certified tap tax rate of point zero zero one one. Is there a second?

Council Member Tiffany

I'll second it.

Mayor

Got a second from Tiffany. There's something I forgot to do. Marcus, do we have do we have anybody on Zoom or anything? K. I wanted to make sure if they had an opportunity for to chime in. So we got a motion and a second. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion those with nay, say nay. Motion carries three zero. I know we've had discussion with the other two council members and reviewing the finances and and not speaking for them. But in my discussion, my impression is is they support you in your decisions. The next item is to consider resolution twenty twenty five dash 13. We've had a public hearing on on this, but it's a resolution adopting the Hyde Park City final budget. We no sooner this this one would give Donya the relief until after the first of the year when we start start adjusting the budget and preparing for next year. So, counsel, do you have any questions on the budget? There's a large PDF file that was sent to you or not sent to you, but it's inbox. Do you have any questions on that?

I don't.

Obviously, we as we pass it, usually, we do our midyear adjustment. After the first year, we'll we'll go through and be looking at that. But I think Dania has done a great job. She we've never since I've been working with you in and that counts our age too much. But for a long time, I don't believe we've ever come in where we've overspent our budget. Dania's always been smart in budgeting and helping. And as we review and go through that, we've never come in and said, counsel, we're in the hole, and that's a good thing. I think it has to a lot of wise long term financial decisions on how we're trying to do things. For example, we're trying to procure some property for another park in the city, But we get we need to be smart about how we do this, and so we're figuring out some strategy. We in the Northwest of of Hyde Park. So we're looking to make sure that we as we make decisions, we make them wise in in how we let contracts, how we do different things. We took us three years to plan. I haven't heard if we got our snowplow in yet, but we've we've ordered it. It took us three years to save up enough for it, but that isn't the only cost. We have to have another person to drive it. We had the snowplows during the snow the year that it snowed so much. We had the snowplows, but we can only work people a certain number of hours, and then they have to be off. And that's the way it is. We I don't want somebody drowsy out there plowing the roads, and we'll be replacing a lot of mailboxes. So So try to be smart about how we go about business.

Mara, I do I do have one question. Sure. Is is the budget on our website? Is there

Council Member Tiffany

where the public has access to that? The tentative one has been there, but I'll replace it with the final, with this final budget. Yeah. Once it's done. So it is up. Yeah. It will be available on the website. Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

Mayor

And as always, if anybody has questions, comments, thinks of something, we're Dania is usually the brain trust on all this stuff, but we're there's better ways. We are always open because we're I think, we do the city. High Park City does a lot on a shoestring budget. We need big stronger shoe shoestrings. And and if we can figure out how to do things better, I'm always open.

And I just throw in that we've we've got residents who really step up well. Yep. Fireworks donated, hometown days, and other kinds of things that so organizations, businesses, individuals that that donate to to make a difference for some of these events that we have. So Yeah. Just shout out to all those good folks that that help out too. We have,

up at Lions Park, the Lower Lions, it's got the old metal shed, old metal roof pavilion. We got a donor that is donating funds for us to build another one just like the other two that are in Lions Park, in the middle lines and upper lines. So we'll be getting a new pavilion, not paid with taxpayer dollars. That's a donation. So I I think doing well, Stephanie, council member Stephanie already done well getting sponsors for our city celebration. We had great time there. Yeah. We had a lot of good sell good participation in donations. So I think that work has worked well for the city. And and the city is trying to look at other avenues of what they may be small revenues, but what revenues are we letting slip slip through our fingers? And we're trying to close those gaps so that, you know, the the big heavy, low hanging things, I they're all gone. We gotta figure out other ways that not impacting our residents that perhaps there's things that are available to the city that we just haven't had. So we're moving forward with those things. So we still have a motion and a second. Any more discussion, council? We have not yet had a motion or I think I think we have a for the budget. Oh, that that was the still gonna do it. Man, I'm I was ready to adjourn. You were. Okay. I'd look for a motion for on resolution twenty twenty five dash 13.

Council Member Tiffany

I'll make the motion that we approve resolution twenty twenty five dash 13. I'll second it.

Mayor

We got a tie goes to To Kirk. Kirk. Okay. We got a motion from Tiffany and a second from Kirk on approving resolution twenty twenty five dash 13 adopting the Hyde Park City final budget. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? With that, I'd I would ask counsel, we're at the time, do you have any anything to input on anythings that you've been looking at? I know the police commission, we've we've I was hoping that the

Council Member Kurt

Well officer would be here tonight. Did did anybody find out about that deer they had to kill?

Mayor

That was Yeah.

Council Member Tiffany

Do you know? Yeah. It was in your backyard. It was They think it was sick. They took Yeah. Blood samples. They haven't heard back from it yet. But they just kind of wandered down there and walked in a bunch of circles and laid down, and he wasn't doing well. So they called the police and did a leave, like, you know,

Council Member Kurt

put it down. Yes. Not for the Monday morning. It was a big It was Two. Yeah. It was a buck. Mhmm. But I saw it going on, and I thought, I just will be Snoopy. So I I went over and see what was going on. But they had already taken care of the deer and and I think they're waiting to see Yeah. They're they sent it in for tests, I think. Right? I that's why it's open Some disease. We would know.

Council Member Tiffany

Wasting disease? Maybe. And they have to burn it if it does have that disease.

Council Member Kurt

If if that's the case, that's

Council Member Tiffany

that's another problem we Yeah. Does that count towards our 60 deer, right, or what they have to I don't know. I don't know

Mayor

what did that count on. Do you have anything, Tiffany?

Council Member Tiffany

A couple things. I met with principal Crosby at Green Canyon about the roundabout, and I stopped by the office. But you were sick, and you were gone. Okay. But the Green Canyon would like to take not ownership. They wanna take Responsibility. Responsibility. That's what I'm looking for, to maintain and work with the city to improve that roundabout. He said that school would be willing to come up with the funds. They want the graduating classes to take some pride in the roundabout and the entrance to their school. And so they're looking to do some improvements with landscaping and lighting, and I told them that we probably would need a plan, and it would need to be coordinated with the city and our public works. And with your permission, I I'll be the liaison with the Did we have that one designed in our We do have a design. It is heavily landscaped.

Mayor

Is that the old one? That's the old one. I'm wondering if if I don't think we designed it. Ever designed that one. I don't think he did. I think he did. Oh, maybe he did. He But maybe You recall?

Marcus

If I don't think he did. The previous design that we had had several statues of the wolves and a lot of landscaping. It was very ornate. Then they found out that those cost a lot of money. Yeah. It was pretty pricey. And when I started with the city, the school had a fund set up to start this project, and then their principal switched and the project got lost. So I can look up some old files and some other information if that would help you.

Council Member Tiffany

Those dedicated funds, they don't know where they are, but they would come up with the funds to do the improvements if the city would allow them to do so.

Marcus

Yeah. As far as I understand, the roundabout was set up with that intention.

Mayor

But I Which roundabout are we talking? Green Canyon High Street? Green Canyon?

Council Member Tiffany

Is there water Yes. In that? Yep. Water and power's in there. K. So if they bring a plan and I can present it to the city council, we can coordinate with public works. If they need water, I told them I we might wanna be in charge of that, but also ask them to be water wise in their planting. I I know the old plan wasn't all that water wise. So So I'm I'll look through my email, see if I can have one from Nick. The old plan. I think I have it in my bag. So I can No. I'm I'm wondering first name from Nick. How long we did. Yeah. So maybe we I don't know. We can talk about that later. But Another resource would be our landscaping ordinance.

Mayor

Yeah. It also has references to Waterwise plant lists from the USU extension. That'd be a great thing to point them towards when they're choosing their plants. No. What I had in mind too. That's the Waterwise principles that we used in landscaping this Yep. This one down here in High Park Lane, which I think is just beautiful. But, yeah, when they found out how much of they were if they were gonna put a pack of wolves on that roundabout, they found out that they can afford one wolf.

Council Member Tiffany

Yeah. That's a little he said the kids in the welding class may work on making a sign that says Green Canyon High School or something that could be displayed there. If you want High Park City on it, they're open to putting High Park City on it as well, but I was like, they kinda have our entrance roundabout. I don't know if we want it labeled Hyde Park as well or if you're okay with it just being green, can I, again? We plow it. We ought to brag about it.

Mayor

K. We can Unless we don't plow it.

Council Member Tiffany

We can coordinate on that, but he that's what they're asking for. Okay. If the council and if they're open to that and the staff. Let's get together on that and and see what plans we actually have. Because, like, I

Mayor

I I don't remember if Nick did anything. I don't remember either. I remember the one in front of the middle school is done, but I don't know about the wolf. It'll be in the my email. So I I'll pull that up and send shoot that over to you tomorrow. And, yeah, we will talk this the plaques.

Council Member Tiffany

I'll I'll get details on that tomorrow. We'll talk about it next time. Okay.

Mayor

Yes. I do have a couple items. The safety committee a couple weeks ago asked chief if we could get the speed trailer up on 450 North Vicinity 400 East. It was it was there for about eleven days. Anybody that lives in that part of town would have seen it. It was facing the westbound traffic, so traffic coming down the hill. And I'm sure if he'd been here tonight, he he would address that. And so I just thought I would I would just point that out. Over the eleven days it was there, it averaged almost 2,600 vehicles a day A day. Going so about 1,300 coming east and about 1,300 more going back up the hill. So a lot of traffic having to figure out how to get through that intersection there. 43% of the vehicles were going at the speed limit or below. 50, almost 57% were going over the speed limit, which is really interesting that making the corner and then going up the hill from that making that corner, the the location of the speed trailer that you could exceed 25 miles an hour in that short gap. But, anyway, it happened. And and the interesting note that he he it makes is that there were fewer people speeding when they could see the display. So if you're going over 30, it starts flashing. If you go too fast, we apparently, there was somebody going 64 miles an hour coming down the hill. But, anyway, fewer people were speeding as they were coming down because they saw the flashing than were going up when you didn't see the flashing. And you would expect, you know, that more people would speed coming down the hill. So, I mean, that's just evidence that seeing a reminder flashing slow down, I mean, it's good every time I I drive into town there at the post office, just past the post office there on 200, West. There's the little reminder sign and, you know, I'm going 27. It's like, okay. Yeah. Dave, slow down. So, anyway, I just wanted to point that out. The other thing, about a week and a half ago, the, parks and trails survey was completed. I believe there'll be something in the newsletter that will have a link to that and just a couple of highlights, and then we'll also follow-up, just this next week as it goes out in the in the newsletter with some other forms, I think, through Pigeon and and and maybe an email that'll have people so they'll have an electronic link. I'll just point out a couple of things real quick with that. Just a couple of key key takeaways. The Lee Park And Pavilion and the city office park out here rated the lowest in all categories, so would have the most room for improvement. The top priority for all respondents is to expand and improve the walking trails. So out of out of all of that, and there was a lot of interest in obtaining easement rights, to the areas along the canal. The majority of residents said they'd be willing to increase their taxes, not to something magnificent level, but some but but for improved parks. Lots of comments about shade and those kinds of things. So there's a lot of good things in there that I think as we sit down and and get a working committee going here that that we could take action on in the near term and other things that certainly are long range for a a future gen parks and trails master plan. So, anyway,

those results are back, and we'll make sure that all the residents have access to to all that. I I I think it's interesting that, you know, they're talk people are talking about this park is out here is one that can have some of the most improvement. And, I I think they'd be thrilled to know that we received a 180?

Marcus

$360,000

Mayor

grant to put in new structures here, and we're looking to kinda tailor this for toddler, smaller kids, and have that out here. There'll be a picnic area on the up near where our water well house will be. New parking lot for the pickleball courts. New parking lots on the north side of the pickleball. And so There were con there are comments about needing more parking for the park.

And also that they really like the swing set, mayor, that, you know, that old fashioned one that may not go back in. A lot of people really like that big metal slide up at Lower Lions Park. Keep please keep it. I think it's a throwback to the good old days when, you know, you used to get a few bumps and bruises and or burn your rear end. Although, you can do that on a on a plastic slide pretty well too. But anyway, lots of lots of love for the some of the old old play structures we have in town. But, I just look forward to working with the staff and the community on and moving forward with, you know, what we can with our parks and trails and things. So, you know I think

being innovative of as we've done. Not sure if people have been down to Saint George and you see those six foot wide slides that they have in some of those parks down there. We've we've installed one of those at the Legacy Park, and it's still in some cleaning up and stages there. We're gonna see how that works for toddlers and smaller kids. It's a small one. And, boy, Lions Park screams out for one. Maybe we've already got the built in hillside. So that that would be our next let's see how this one works. And the the biggest challenge we have is, as we spoke in our last council meeting, e motorcycles in the hillsides and things like that. But I've been thinking about this since chief brought it up to the last council meeting of we always pass codes of what you can't do. We ought to be able to figure out a way how to coexist. Because for back in the nineties, we were wanting to get the kids out of in front of the Xbox and the Gameboys and get them outside and playing. Now they're outside and playing, and they're driving us nuts. So how do we coexist and figure this out where they can do it safely and legally? Not the not the 13 year old on e motorcycle. That's but I think there's

Marcus

some discussion long term with Alex on that one. Mhmm. So speaking of other funding sources, in October, there's a grant that comes open for That's I was gonna ask. Transportation projects. But if we wanted to build that into active transportation, such as a trail plan for the city or a biking bike lane plan, these grant this grant can be used for that. It's a very low match percentage. I would like to parks and trails master plan. That's what I'd like to do is schedule a work session with the city council and the staff to talk about the scope of work we wanna put together, to apply for that. I've talked with a couple different engineering firms about providing me sample plans that they've done to see if we can get some cost estimates and, bidding list together. But I think the next step would be to get a work session scheduled to go over the survey results and really drill down which details the city council wants to focus on for a study like that. I think I think it'd be wise I think it covers this too, painting lines for bike lanes. Yep. That would be an element. I think we need to have something that would recognize and designate that for bike lanes. Not maybe not every street, but Mhmm. We can have bike routes. I spent a few years living just outside of Cleveland, Ohio, and Cleveland is kind of a weird place. But one of the things that they did really, really well is their Metroparks system. So Cleveland has a bunch of parks all over the city, but they're all connected by paved trails that cut through the big city and have these beautiful nature trails. And so you can get on your bicycle, and you could go to, like, a Lions Park and then hop on a trail. And ten minutes later, you're at a different park with different amenities. And I would love to see something like that put together a long term for Hyde Park.

Mayor

Yes. I always told people when I flew up to NASA Glenn in Cleveland, I said, you know, the only downside is when you land, you're still in Cleveland. But Yes. True. But, Tiffany, you have one other follow-up.

Council Member Tiffany

Oh, yeah. So our upcoming group for seniors is starting. On November 6, we have a new group called the front porch. Anyone 55 and older is invited to attend, so spread the word with for people that, you know, that might need some connectivity during the month. We'll have a variety of activities that's headed up by our Get Healthy Utah or Get Healthy Hyde Park committee that Yeah. Operates under the Get Healthy Utah. And we'll have a variety it'll cover a variety of topics, activities from health to we're gonna we have some nurses on our committee that will that have resources for people. And

Mayor

Why do you keep looking at me?

Council Member Tiffany

I'm not looking at you. I want you to attend. I want all of you to attend. I would love any members of the city council and the city staff to pop in and just Disqualify. Come and enjoy. Our first activity is a cooking demonstration and a they will demonstrate how to grow edible mushrooms in your home on your counter in a really small Ziploc bag. Not they're like cooking grade Two something in grade mushroom. Not those kind of mushrooms. Those kind of mushrooms. But kind of a fun hobby and how you can use it in your in your kitchen for No. Leave your families. USU is a co presenter. So, yeah, not those kind of No. That will be from ten to twelve on November 6, and we'll hold that monthly going forward. And stop the flower shop at North Logan that's presenting. No. Okay.

Mayor

And that's very fun. I think That's great. Getting that started. That works. I got it. The more, the better in my mind Yeah. For those kind of activities. So we Those are the things going Connections.

Council Member Tiffany

Yeah. Within our community. Absolutely. We'll get to know each other. So we're hoping it'll be well attended. Okay.

Mayor

Marcus Donnie, you got anything for us? I would entertain a motion to mamanos. So moved.

Got a motion to adjourn. Nobody can beat you on that one, Kirk. I'll second it. I got a second. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Thank you.