Hyde Park City Council Meeting 6.10.2026

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Okay. We're good? Oh. Alright. We'd like to welcome everybody to our Hyde Park City Council meeting this evening, 06/10/2026. We'll start with our opening ceremony. I'll turn the time over to council member Allred. Thank you.

Our our heavenly father, we're so very grateful for the many blessings that we have for this opportunity to be here tonight. We're grateful as a council to be able to re represent the citizens of our city and grateful for this wonderful city that we live in with the many good people that are all around us. We're grateful father for the recent rain that we've received and pray that we can continue to receive rain and moisture for the season ahead. And father, we pray for the guidance and help this night as we consider different items on the agenda that we can have thy help and guidance and understanding and being able to make wise decisions. We're again so very grateful for our many blessings and pray these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Please stand and recite the pledge after me.

I invite you to speak about I do not say it's of America. Thank you. Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Stephanie. Hey. We'll start with the acceptance of the minutes from our May 2026. I'll start with Dave. Do you have any comments? I'm good. I'm

good. Good. Good. K.

I don't have anything to add as well. With that, I'll look for a motion to approve our minutes. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from

05:13 twenty six.

We have a okay. We have a motion by council member Allred and a second by council member Brower to approve the minutes for 05/13/2026. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Do I see? Well, okay. Any opposed? Okay. Motion passes. Okay. Now I'd like to approve the agenda for this evening.

Council member Atkinson, I have one request. The first item under action items is considered development agreement with Visionary Homes for Aspen Grove subdivision. The city just completed a work session with Visionary Homes and its parent that that agreement needs some work. So I'd like to request that that item be continued for a future meeting, and Visionary Homes also would like to request that we schedule another work session to continue to work on it with them.

Do you have council? Are we in favor of removing this from our agenda this evening? Yeah. I'll move that we continue

the first item there, consider development agreement with Visionary Homes for Aspen Grove Subdivision. I'll second.

K. We have a motion by council member Fells and a second by council member Osborne. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay?

K. So follow-up. When can we get that work session scheduled potentially? Do we wanna do it Beginning of next Wednesday? You wanna do it before the next city council meeting? Tomorrow is tomorrow good?

Just kidding. I was gonna say what the. Is two weeks from now a good time, or does the Visionary Express wanting to do it sooner?

I think they might still be here. So, guess if you want to recognize them to come up with a microphone, you could Do you have comments on when you would like to reschedule this meeting?

Yeah. Okay. So we did it in two weeks as another council meeting. Is that right? Yeah. Or we have a planning and zoning next week. Yeah. I would say two weeks give us a little bit of time to work on a few things and have something to come to that meeting in. Did we not already have something scheduled? Or

We typically have a work session scheduled to do general plan review and ordinance discussions on the fourth, Wednesday. Right. It's up to the council if you wanna continue the if you want to have the general plan work session that day or we can move one of the work sessions, it's really up to you. They're your meetings.

I would be in favor of holding our workshop with Visionary again in two weeks and rescheduling our general plan

meeting if we felt it necessary. Is there something specific, Dave, that you're thinking about and worried about what you're facing? I I don't know that I have anything more to say in a work session that I said tonight. I think there's a lot of work that needs to be done, and I didn't say it before. I'll say it here that I see our staff week after week with developer after developer spending a lot of time. You and I and other of the staff spent almost a hundred hours with USU students working on this park plan that I thought I was gonna show up here, and we're gonna have this little park discussion. Next thing I know, this room is full of students, and so we've committed a lot of time to this. And so that that's I I just I see the city and our staff day after day, week after week, sitting down with not just Visionaire, with many developers having to restate what's already in our code and what we want and and telling them, you know, how to fix their stuff. And then they're calling our people on their cell phones at home saying, hey. When are you gonna have this stuff done? And I don't know that you know, if there's some specifics, then great. But I've spent hours already going through the development agreement with notes all over that things that I don't agree with, and I'd be happy to sit down or send them to you, but I don't wanna spend a lot more time saying, I prefer transition zone. I prefer 40% commercial and mixed use. I don't need to come and spend an hour in two weeks and do that. I wanna spend some time on our general plan that we when's the last time anybody looked at the general plan? Probably three months ago when we had the last work session because we keep canceling them or we keep I mean, last month, we didn't meet because we didn't have much anyway, that's my piece. And so

if you're asking for discussion, that was my part of the discussion. I appreciate your feedback, Dave. I do think I do think that we're going through some growing pains and that High Park working through these development agreements, it's new. So there is frustration, because we do spend a lot of hours trying to hash things out. I, I will say as, in order to get a good product for our community, I think that is what is required of us as a city. I don't wanna waste time, but I I don't feel like Bryce is gonna come back to us with the same old thing. I think there will be topics of discussion to be had that will help move this forward. Do you feel like Bryce, you can bring us something

Yeah. I feel like that will help move the that they can I can whatever it'll be, put something together to come back with and make sure that we're moving in the right direction and not waste people's time? I feel like they're they're hearing our concerns. We'll take our template because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna vote yay on anything that's not gonna happen for another three or four or five years. And if that's what's in our standard development agreement, then, you know, I'll talk offline with the mayor and and Marcus about that because I'm not gonna approve anything. I don't know what this is gonna place is gonna look like in five years, and that's what the development agreement that you wanted me to approve tonight has in it.

I'm a hard no on that. I appreciate that. Need to say about that? No. But let's talk later about development agreements because I have some ideas that are running around by you. But I do think that in order to move this forward, that we should have a meeting. Does do you all feel

we're against that. Yeah. I I think maybe it ought to be contingent

that you guy you say we got some solid stuff here, and we've addressed your concerns.

So

And and please let us know if that doesn't happen so that we can then switch and pivot and get to the Yeah. Master plan instead. So Bryce will be in touch with me,

and we'll get that information out. But for now, we'll tentatively schedule a work session two weeks from the one that we just held. So 06:00, two weeks from today. Is that what I'm hearing? Yes. Okay. And Bryce will tell me if they're ready or not. K.

Okay. So I've lost track that we've we motion to move that off of an agenda. Correct? To approve the agenda. Yeah. So now that that's gone, you have to book to approve the agenda. So now that we've removed action item seven a, I'd look for a motion to approve the agenda as written.

I move that we approve the agenda as amended.

K. I'll second that.

Okay. We have a motion by council member Fowles and a second by council member Allred. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. The agenda is approved and we will continue. Now with our citizen input. I need to read this public disclaimer. Okay. Welcome to our meeting. We encourage all participants to follow the rules of decorum by behaving with polite, respectable, and dignified contact conduct. Please state your name for the record. Speak clearly into the microphone and use no more than three minutes. Please phrase your comments as statements, not questions. A public oh, is this a public hearing? The citizen input?

No. You can state the public hearing. Okay.

And please make sure your comments are factual, accurate, or original, and that they address they are addressed to the council or commission. Alright. So at this time, we'll open the mic up for citizen input. Okay. Having none, we will close the citizen input portion of our meeting and move on to council business, the staff and council reports.

Alright. I had a couple items I wanna just highlight hopefully quickly in the staff report. Hopefully, everybody had a chance to read it. You can ignore ignore the date. I forgot to change that, but everything else in there is up to date. So a couple of points I just wanna bring up. First of all is in the road section. We had a presentation from the road safety committee a couple weeks ago or from council member Fowles representing the road safety committee with some recommendations for moving forward. I kind of stalled that because I needed some more information on what standards we needed to follow in changing traffic patterns. And so I went and met with Sunrise Engineering, and they gave me the recommendations for how we need to do that. If we're changing traffic patterns and making big changes, then there is a level of study we need to have happen from professional licensed engineers. And they can do any of those things. They can go as simple as writing a memo for small changes to doing a big complicated study if we want to raise the speed limit to 80 miles an hour across town, which we would never do. That's just a horrible example. But they did say that for a couple of the changes recommended by the safety committee, we wouldn't necessarily need to study, and those were changing the school signage and having the speed limit changes down by Legacy Park. And so I just had a question for the council. I don't necessarily need an answer right now, but we're I spoke with Public Works. They're ready to do those if that's what the council would like to do. And so maybe tonight or we have it as an agenda item for future meeting. We're just ready if you're ready to make a decision on those items from the road safety committee. The next item I wanted to bring up quickly is with our water rates. We had a discussion about the water rates in a public hearing at a past meeting. There was one public comment requesting that we do a professional maybe professional is the wrong word, a a rate study from an engineering firm. So we went back to the city staff and kind of inquired about how the rate study happened. Our city staff or utility clerk already did a rate study. Maybe it wasn't you know, they're not a licensed engineer, so it wasn't to that level. But, again, Sunrise Engineering is already doing a lot of stuff with our water master plan, with our water rates. They offered to do a professional engineering level study if that's what the council wants to do. They quoted us approximately 10 to $15,000 for that rate study. And so I just need if the council wants to do a rate study, that's probably the cheapest we can get it for because they're very familiar with our system, and I would just need some kind of nod if that's the direction you would like us to go. Alternatively, we're pretty confident with the homework that our people have done, and we can prepare some kind of documentation showing how we came to our conclusions. I That was in. I I feel like we've done

a a great study that that Colette took her time and did a thorough study, and I'm I'm feel like that's sufficient.

Okay.

I think if you're offering to kinda share with us the process she went through, that would probably be good for me just to put my stamp on it too or not.

Okay. So I can have her do a a small write up on the process, the homework, the different Yeah. Research that she did to come to those conclusions, and we can present that at the next council meeting. K.

That's a good idea.

Those are the two things I wanted to specifically highlight. But if there's other questions or concerns about anything in here, feel free to ask me or let me know.

I have opinion on the speed limit for the road, The two fifty is going into 800. I feel like it might be better to keep it uniform. So it's going 30 through North Logan. Everybody slows down at the roundabout, and then just to keep it at 30. So the whole road is one speed limit. So it's I feel like it gets so confusing sometimes because, like, out on the highway, we've got 50 miles an hour and then there's 55 miles an hour, and it's like, how did how do you know when you're in a 50 out there, and how do you know anyway, I just feel like a uniform speed limit, 30 the whole way would be You you put up a sign that says 25 miles an hour in Hyde Park City unless

noted otherwise or budgeted. Isn't that the law in Hyde right now that it's 25 and even if it's not posted? Yep. Well, actually, it is not. If you read the ordinance, our prima facie speed limit as of however long ago, twenty fifteen, is 30 miles an hour in Hyde Park City. So we definitely wanna

change that in the code. There is an actual municipal code that designates that if it's not posted, speed limit in Hyde Park is 30 miles an hour.

So then it's the do we change it by the park for safety, or do we keep it the same? Which I would've brought up a month ago, but I just discovered it this week because I was continuing to dig dig through stuff. Appreciate your drive.

It's like, Where'd where'd this come from? We appreciate you digging Gotta take all these 25 mile an hour signs down and put up 30 mile an hour. Or we just amend that code and change it to 25. We had this conversation, Gerald and I, and the safety committee and the mayor and others last for a year now with our 600 South 3100 along Legacy. I mean, that's that's a racetrack, and our concern is along the park. And so I, you know, I don't care what North Logan speed limit is. I care what Hyde Parks is and especially next to the to the park. I think if anywhere we want 25 miles an hour, it would be on 250 East next to Legacy Park. And I think you you you gotta go probably slower than 25 to get around that traffic circle anyway. So rather than say, okay. Let's speed up the 30 so you can get up to the intersection and stop and then see 25. I think it's better just to say it's 25 unless you're out on the Wolfpack Way and a couple other places, you know, on in 6 South or 600 South. 100%.

Nice.

Yeah. I know. We're just starting to get houses filled in there now. Yeah. And I know the East Side doesn't have as many, but the West Side certainly is. Because we we've got that on on 100 West.

It's 30 miles an hour. There's a sign there that says 30 miles an hour. And I thought, we gotta change that. And then Hunter read the code, it's like, oh, no. We don't. That's the only one that's writing down. But there's a lot of That's our fault. Yeah. We better change it. But there's a lot of homes now along there. And, you know, I guess I just kinda feel and and it's a very wide road, so it's gonna be hard to I mean, I have to I have to You have to call it. Make I have to concentrate. I have to focus to go slow down, Dave, because we've got this, you know, eight line. You know, it's just this I don't know, 99 foot or at least an 80 foot right away there. So my without getting sidetracked on all the other issues, I I think we need to go 25

at the park there. So just a question. Is this traffic recommendation priorities at the end of but that's just a discussion item.

Are we but we can talk about this now and vote on it. Didn't we have? It doesn't But Marcus guys just said, like, hey. So I'm sure. I'm Wait till the end too. I don't I don't care. Yeah. I was for either. Okay. I didn't realize this discussion item. Sorry. We should talk about it at the end. Okay. Good to We'll come back to that point because I just that it points on the agenda. Great.

I was just talking to my staff. Sorry. Ponder, and we'll come back. Okay. Nope. Any other questions on items in the staff report?

Kind of. I I was just thinking about the item that we removed from our agenda. Mhmm. Right now, we have a recommendation from our planning commission to deny that. Yep. Do we need to go back and have

them go through that process? Or I guess we can approve it without their I think it's up to the council. I think as long as we're continuing with these work sessions and the planning commission has brought along and they can understand the process, then they probably won't be having their feelings hurt when you if you overturn their decision. Yeah. Now if you weren't bringing them along for the ride and then you just voted yes and didn't tell them why, yeah, that's when that happened last time, there was a lot of upset people about that. But I think the way that it's happening right now, it probably wouldn't be the end of the world. Now if the city council wanted to officially send it back to the planning commission to continue to be worked on, that's something you could do. I mean, because part of that is

another public hearing, and maybe the pub you would say, yeah. We like this better.

Or Yeah. Remember, the development agreement is approved in the same way as as we would approve, like, a rezone. It's a legislative action. We're essentially approving a new land use regulation, and so you kind of consider it that way. Okay. Alright. Complicated than that. But No, Gerald. I think that's a great comment.

Because I know they're not happy I'm not happy with the way it it Yeah. Is right now. And for me to vote to approve it, there would have to be some major changes that would it would be a whole different looking development agreement. So I think it needs to it would need to go back to the planning commission and have another Yeah. Public hearing. That's that would be my

my approach to that. Yeah. Okay. And maybe that's the that's maybe that's what happens after it's to a spot where the city council's happy with it. Maybe you wanna get one last public input session.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We can deal with that. You slide. Bring that up. That's good. Good point.

Council, is this where we also do council reports? Council? Do you have anything to report on council? I think that's at the end of some of it. It says mayor staff council reports.

Mhmm.

I've got nothing to report. I'll just we can discuss. Can I just throw out the front porch group is tomorrow from ten to noon? And I would like anyone and everyone to come. It's on composting and water conservation. It'll be fun. There'll be prizes. So come and snacks. Prizes. Prizes. Definitely will be there now. So that'll help ten to noon. Come In the basement. Right? In the basement, we have a speaker from USU, and then we have a fun bingo conservation water conservation composting activity. So anyone else have information to share? It's a happening place. Alright. Then I'll turn the time over to chief for your report.

Thank you for having me. Again, I look at the agenda, and I know you have a lot on the agenda, so I'll try to be quick. Two thing well, a couple of things I wanted to point out as far as updates. Number one with the deer herd, the trap has been ordered. I don't have to figure out somebody to to build it and fabricate it for us. We found one that we can just purchase online. That'll be ready to go and set in place August 1 so we can begin with that. So we are making progress with that. Number two, the ebikes. We have had since school got out. We've had two who have ran or evaded on us. One of them is this week with the evading call. That was an ebike that took off. So we're starting to track those through the county. They've had Cache County's had a few as well that have ran. Logan has not had any yet that have ran from them. We're starting to track that to get some information back to the state legislators

on that. Chief, can I ask when you say ran, does that mean they literally drop the bike and ran or they're they're on their bike going wherever it is that you can't go in your car? That exactly.

Hoping a wheelie as they go. So Good. Our policy still, it's a minor traffic offense at this point. Our goal is to educate, which we have a lot. We've handed out tons and tons of pamphlets and stopped and talked with people. We feel it's been successful so far despite those couple of numbers. So we're hoping that them kids learn that that they're willing to talk to us. So I see good things and improvement on that. The third thing, what you have before you is our May 2026 Hyde Park City stat recap on that. So for May, the department handled five forty six calls. 120 of those were in Hyde Park. The ones in blue are the non priority type calls. The ones are highlighted the light blue those were part of your top seven calls for service during out of that 120. The calls on the right are your priority calls. And again the light green are ones that made it into your top seven as well. With that we had some pretty serious ones on this one. Again, in the the evading, we had several medicals that we dealt with. We are having lots and lots of the child abuse, child neglect cases that are coming in, that we're handling with that. So calls for Citi. Actually if you'll scroll down just a little bit Marcus on that. Out of our traffic stops we had three twenty four during the month of May between North Logan and Hyde Park. 84 of those were in Hyde Park. 74 of those were warnings and 10 were citations with that. Compared to last year in 2025 at the end of May thirty first, we were sitting at exactly where we're sitting at this year. The same amount of calls ironically. But what you see difference are the differences that we're up two ninety nine more traffic stops. So the calls are at the same but our stops are going up. So there's a balance there that we're keeping and increasing which I think is a good thing. We're trying to educate. We're trying to do more self initiation with that. Now with this, all the information that I've shown you right here, I'm going to have Marcus go to our website if he would. And I want to show you improvements that we've done to our website so you can find the same information here and the public can. We have done a lot of work to our website. On under the top tabs there, you see your department's employment, services. If you'll highlight services there for a minute we have now the records request you can pay for it, fingerprint scheduling. We have a new item called camera registry that we put out in the newsletter. The camera registry is an opportunity for homeowners to go online and register that they have a ring camera that is capable of of capturing information. There's no information that's shared with the department. It's meant to be, to help increase our efficiency. If there's a crime, if there's something in that area, our officers can go to that registry and say, hey, there's a camera here, here, here, and here. Instead of going door to door and knocking on every single one, we're hoping to save some time with that. If you'll go to the right one more under public announcements and trainings, I'm excited about this. And if you'll highlight the public trainings, we're starting to put the trainings that we are doing in the community or for the community out on our website as well. So for instance, there's a tab there for request to training. If a department or a business would like a active shooter training or a sextortion or Internet safety presentation, they can request it and it comes to us. We have our sextortion training up there. If you'll click on that link, that takes you to, the training itself and you can, they can go through slide by slide or they can download it. If you'll go to that left there and hit the arrow just where your mouse was, it'll take you through the entire slide. And this is what we present on there. So we're trying to get information out to the public in the best way that we can. If you'll go back up to the top under the tabs under statistics now and monthly stats, I am putting up on our website the monthly stats for North Logan and for Hyde Park by month on there. And when that loads in just a second here, you can click on the different months, and it will show you a a pie graph. If you'll click on May, Marcus under Hyde Park, it brings up the the pie chart. So the here's your top seven Mhmm. That were highlighted in the light blue and the light green. And if you hover over it, it'll tell you, like, for instance, on that red, it'll tell you citizen assist and how many calls and the percentage that that equals. And then if you scroll down a little bit further, under the there's a little tab there called show. You can show 10 entries at a time or you can show all at a time. And it it's this entire list that I'm presenting to you. So we're trying to be very transparent, very open with the public on what information and what is happening in the city for both cities on that. We also have up on there our 2025, annual report, and that'll be something that we each year we end up putting on there. So, again, this information is out. I still feel this is value or has value to you so that you can I can show you the priority versus non priority? But in information you're trying to get to your residents, here's what's happening in the city and and you can go to our web page. Very last thing that I wanna highlight and then I'll be done is the victim resources tab. We have put links to the different victim services that are available. This was a new update that was required by law. We had to have some information up there on that. And so we have included links to CAPSA to the utahcourts.gov. If somebody needs questions on how to get a protective order, how to fill that out. If you'll scroll down, there's Cache County victim services. There's CAPSA. There's Safe Harbor. A little further south of here down in Weber County. We've also included a safety exit. So if a victim is looking at these things and trying to figure that out and a potential abuser comes in, they can hit that safety exit and it takes them immediately to the weather pages, I think, where it goes to. So that hopefully they're not confronted on that to the weather. Nice. We've also added on the home page to their a English to Spanish mass translation button. So they hit English or Spanish and it translates every page into Spanish or English, which is pretty awesome. So like I said, this is a great resource for our officers, but also for the citizens as they're looking to see what we're doing and what is happening in their city, and we're we're happy to update that as well. Do you have any questions for me or concerns or things that you'd like to see different

on that?

K. Good. Thank you, chief. Yeah. It's really good information, and I I just appreciate our police department. I know they work hard for our community, and their service is is visible. So we appreciate all you're doing.

Thank you.

What do you do about scams? I mean, old people are notorious for getting hit. Yep. They are. And and I'm sure you get calls on that. How do you handle that? Or what do you We do. So, actually, there's a new new law that is coming down for us for all the police departments

have to have a detective that's trained in Bitcoin and currency type scams with that. To that end, today, we got Logan City put together a flyer that they're gonna be posting and and sending out and then I can send out on what to do with potential scams. So that'll go up on our web page as well. One of the trainings that we're working on putting together on our website is a fraud type training for things like that, for elderly abuse or elderly fraud. That is gonna be going up on our website too, and people can request a particular training on if a group or a home wants that or even if a particular family wants to talk to us, they can get a hold of us through that.

So thanks.

Awesome. Thank you. Alright. We'll now move on to our action action items. Action item seven b, consider the wastewater manage master plan from Sunrise Engineering.

Thanks for having me today. I'm Seth Thompson with Sunrise Engineering. Just gonna go over, kinda run through what we did for the master plan, then I can answer any questions that you have, and I can stick around also for the public hearing if there's any other questions to to answer on that. To kinda give a little, I guess, background that the wastewater master plan and the big reason we are doing this update is because of your recent zoning changes with allowing higher density developments to come in. There was a significant change to the amount of projected wastewater flow within the system. So part of this master plan was to update the the model and to make sure that everything is built to be able to handle that. For the the master plan, we went out and we collected data for flow data. We pulled it off of your permanent meters. You have two main trunk lines in the system. One on Hyde Park Lane and one on 3200 North called the A Line and the B line. All the flow goes through there, and there's two permanent flow meters there that record all the flows that are are going out of the system and out to the Logan wastewater treatment plant. And as part of the study, we only looked at your collection system. We didn't do anything on the treatment site since that's handled by Logan. And then we installed four temporary meters throughout the city to kinda get a sense of where what flows are like throughout the city. And that kinda that helped us to be able to calibrate the model to make it function more accurately to what the real conditions are. We also went out and collected survey information on 39 additional manholes just for the the we've done some survey for the last master plan. We did some additional work to just just helps us to be a little bit more accurate with our modeling. Have can make less assumptions that way, and it makes it makes our model function more like your actual system does. We made growth projections. We worked with city staff to be able to identify upcoming developments. With with your zoning changes, we assumed a pretty higher growth rate over the next ten years, so about 6% from point '26 to 2036. And then for the next ten years after that, we we lowered that to about 3% growth rate. And then, as part of the state requirements, all, future infrastructure needs, wastewater infrastructure needs to be sized for fifty year projections. So we we make a fifty year projection. Obviously, that's

a long way to try to see in the future. So Right. With Apparently, you're in favor of high density housing because I don't know how else we get to 26,000 people in Hyde Park.

Well, that and that's, yeah. Definitely higher density and, adding more commercial along the highway Yeah. And along with that way. There yeah. There's a a few things that way that it and it is it is hard to Alright. To project that way, but and yeah. So that the 2% that that matches your historic growth rate. So that's that's where that came from. So our and then with our model, we took those developments that we have that, have been proposed, and that's how we kind of assigned growth within our model, tried to identify areas where there's potential for, commercial and residential development to come in, and use that to to model future flow conditions. With our modeling, A lot of it looked pretty similar to our previous master plan, just kind of expedited as far as the needs with accelerated growth rate compared to what projected in the NAS master plan. The big current issue is the shared outfall line you had with Smithfield. That that line with both your growth and we we have projected growth for Smithfield, so we've projected their flows as well. And with that, we modeled with that shared outfall line is the main one that has issues currently. Our 2036 model starts to expand that those issues on that line get more severe, and the a and b lines start to see some capacity concerns as well. And then 2046, a and b lines start to be a little bit more with the a portion of the a line being in poor condition because of projected flows there. And and part of that with with this model, we then made assumptions for what capital improvement projects would help alleviate some of these concerns. The main one being the shared outfall line replacing that, and that there's an agreement with Smithfield on, percent ownership of that line. And so that that's the kind of the main, capital improvement project for what we recommend to be replaced. Since your last I guess I'll note one thing from since your last master plan, the city is the only project that's been addressed on that list was the Wolfpack Way section. The previous section that was on the master plan that's been installed. The the remaining projects are the same except for Wolfpack Way. We've added that in for the future extension so that as that road gets built out, sewer would be installed within that to to pay for that new and that's all impact fee eligible since that is fully pushed by growth, and as well as the 700 East extension of that as well would be 100% impact fee eligible as that road extends putting sewer in that road. The other projects are the 4400 North Line. This would alleviate some of the flows that are go are projected to go into the a line, by adding an additional line to the north of of the existing system, where this would all service new connections that would be fully impact fee eligible. And the timeline on that project is really just kinda development driven. But where a lot of the growth seems to be happening up kind of in the Northeast corner of the city that would go into that line. It it's it's hard for development to to pay and put in that line. That's a lot of infrastructure for, you know, development up there to put that whole line all the way down. So our recommendation would be for the the city to facilitate that. That would help open up that area of the city for to allow for growth. And, then it's not just getting piecemeal as as development comes in. That in the report, that table 6.1 shows the cost on that. It shows the cost for all those projects. On the outfall line, we split that into three separate portions since coming all the way from Hyde Park Lane all the way out to, the lift station in Logan is, quite a large project. We split it up into in three sections, and and that could be done in in any number of combinations. We just did that to kinda do it more in in bite sized chunks, but this table shows the development cost on that. And for the shared outfall line, our future development assumption was just based off of how much is future growth versus how much is existing. And the remaining projects were just all all all driven by development. The metering stations that your existing ones are functioning fine. The reason we have that on here mostly is to push those further to the West because of, where they're located. Currently, there's a few parcels that aren't able to tie into the system, without but we'd have to even put maybe even a lift station to pop it up in. That doesn't really make sense to to put that infrastructure in. So the proposal is to move those down further closer to the trunk line. With that, the the total for all those projects is 15 about $15,700,000. And of that, about 12,400,000 is for future development. With that, the proposed impact fee for single family housing is about 4,000 is $4,000 $4,025. And for multifamily, it's $3,003.41, which is a increase of $44 for single family and 37 for multifamily. So not a a very large increase from your current impact fee. And then commercial developments would just use the single family number. And and and we just use the assumption of 245 gallons per day per single family house and for commercial development. They would just put in their calculation of how many gallons of wastewater they their development would produce to be able to assess those intent fees. Any any questions for me?

I have a favorite table I'd like to point out. Oh, what? I have a favorite, exhibit I'd like to point out if everyone will indulge me for half a second. It's that one that I kinda paused on at the beginning. I was hoping you'd talk about, Seth. I don't wanna go back to it. Done. Yeah. The daily flow unit hydrograph in section 2.20.2 is my favorite exhibit in this whole study. It sounds pretty nerdy, but it shows from all the meters that they put in based on the sections of town when the flows of the wastewater happen. So you can see the times when it peaked and when we don't have much wastewater use. So I just think it's super interesting.

And

it they show a pretty similar pattern too, which is what you would expect. Some of them are the peaks are a little bit higher and the troughs are a little bit lower, which just kinda depends on what kind of flows are going into there. It tends to be that some of your commercial flows tend to potentially have production happening in the nighttime hours, so you might have higher flows than residential where there's probably not much happening in the the nighttime.

You can tell when people wake up in Hyde Park. Oh, yeah.

That's why it's a fun chart. You can kinda see how people live their lives. And we know by what area of town. Right? Yes. And we know which neighborhoods get earlier than others. Are are we building up our

fund for wastewater with our impact fees so that we can handle this charge? Or are we gonna I mean, if we have to expand for development, I mean, I don't wanna put it on my parents to pay for stuff. You know what I mean?

Yeah. No. We we have been Hyde Park has been saving for a long time. We do use the impact fees. You know, we have to spend them out for a certain amount of time or else we give them back. And so we've had projects come up like Wolfpackway and others where we spent big chunks of impact fees. But, yeah, our sewer fund is is doing pretty well, and that's because really smart people who were here long before me saw this coming Yeah. A long ways out. So we've been saving up for a while.

So one question I had, I'm thinking if we take over the main trunk line from Smithfield completely and just let them have their own line, is that beneficial? That's

And that's we we haven't camera that line Yeah. To see the condition of it, and that it would mostly just depend on So the capacity over time

is less. I said we'd save some money, Gerald, not all the money. Sure. That would be very expensive. Smithfield

owns the majority of that line. Yeah. It's I think theirs is little just a little over 70% is owned by Smithfield. Okay. I have the agreement here at the back. I can't remember It's in one of the appendices.

Exact number is. So so would the would I mean, would you just add another line next to the one that's there, or would you replace the whole thing with a bigger line?

We we would recommend to initially just do a kind of investigation to see the existing condition of that line. Yeah. There might be portions that you could keep in could leave in place. The main problem would be probably in, like, 2500 North, where you're gonna be in U dot right away. That's gonna be a really expensive project, so you might not want to have two lines just for maintenance. It's just creates a headache. But along the airport where there if there's space, it might not be a bad idea to to do parallel lines. Mhmm. Both both have been considered. I think a lot of it would be kind of the cost analysis Yeah. With Right. With what the condition is. With the kind of a design of that, I I think the initial stages would be kind of a feasibility analysis that would Yeah. Okay. Kinda answer that question. But but, yes, that is something that's being considered. Okay. Thank you.

It's about to do the study.

It fills me on the comment. I like that too.

Awesome. Perfect. Thank you, Seth. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Chief, I'm being told that maybe I'm supposed to excuse you if you need to leave. If you're okay, I have other Yes. Things I can do. I'm in I'm in favor. I move the we excuse chief. Chief is free to leave if you Not that we not that we're trying to get rid of you, but Oh, it is. But we'd love to have you hang out if you wanna hang out. But if you had Yeah. I just had other engagement. Yeah. Okay. We appreciate you. Thank you. You know where we'd help you if we have to get Absolutely. So the wastewater master plan does need to be officially

adopted by the city council. And then at a later item, we'll be looking at adopting the impact fee into our fee schedule.

Okay. So with after considering the presentation from Sunrise, I look for a motion to adopt the wastewater plan.

I move that we adopt the wastewater master plan by Sunrise Engineering as presented in the copy that we have.

I'll second that. Great. Council member Fowles made a motion to approve, and council member Brower made a second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? K. Motion passes. Do I have to give a count, or do you just have to say motion passes? Do you have to say It's fine. I I count. You you count. Okay. Dona's got that. Thanks, Dona. Alright. So now we'll move on to the public hearing to take citizen input on amending the fee schedule to modify building permit fees, administrative fees or impact fees, and land use fees. Marcus, do we wanna give a little bit of Yeah. Information to the public? I'll go through these.

That one will be less quick. Let's do the easy one first. So well, I guess the easy one to talk about is the one that we've already looked at. So we are going to be recommending that we update the impact fee to match what's recommended in the study. I, for one, was very excited to see that it only went up by a few dollars. However, as we noticed when I did my math for this spreadsheet, somehow it got messed up. And so we are going to change our recommendation here to match what was presented in the study tonight, which was, let's get there.

And are we looking at the the fee schedule amendments that Yeah. I saw that is a document. We're jumping to e and f.

These two had to be done separately even though they're both fee schedule. The the wastewater impact fee needs a longer time before it be can become effective than the other fees. So they're being presented separately.

Yeah. So our new recommendation for the wastewater impact fee is just to match what's in the the newly adopted master plan. And so, yeah, the proposed impact fee, we're gonna be looking at $4,025 for a single family, $3,341 for multifamily. And for all other connections, you take the single family rate, and then you multiply it per ERU. So, essentially, look at the usage of that type of building or project and then multiply it by how many houses it would be. Oh, so they choose. Yeah. They And so that so it's being proposed on the impact fee update. Now we can look at the rest of them. So we have worked with our building department to do a big update to a lot of our building fees. Costs had just gone up. Everything's become more expensive. These are minor adjustments.

Do you Well, that yeah. I can go home. Do Oh, that's a good idea.

Does the council wanna approve the Sure. Resolution for the wastewater impact fees, and then we can let Sunrise Engineering be excused as well? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do

Do we are we having separate public hearings, or do you wanna Yeah. Separate public hearing. Okay. So first, we'll have our public hearing for the wastewater impact piece. Yeah. So skip to item e. Okay. No. Mhmm. So we're gonna jump to e.

Oh, resolute. We're gonna jump to resolute we're gonna have 26 dash one.

G. I've ruined it. I'm sorry. Alright. Sorry, d. Okay.

Okay. So No. Are we gonna have a public hearing first, though? Right? We The resolution be We put them all together. Okay. Never mind. I'm gonna quickly go through the other fees that we're amending. So we're gonna have a public hearing on all the fee changes, and then we're gonna separately approve the two resolutions. So, hopefully, quickly, the fee schedule amendments, we have a lot of small updates to our building permit fees, business license fees. It just costs a lot of money to run these processes with the city. Most of this is increasing because it's just taking a lot of staff time to do these things, and so we're just raising our prices to try to cover that cost, for our people's time to perform these services for the community. Going down, land use fees is the same story. It's just yeah. We're doing a much closer accounting of all the time that we spend on our land use applications now that we've changed a lot of processes. And so Mikael has gone through and proposed changes to all these fees just match more closely the time actually spent. One new one that we're introducing is sign permits. We had a blanket fee for all sign permits of $250, so we felt like that was too much. And so now we have a a permanent sign permit that's 200, and then for temporary sign permits, just $25.

What's that infrastructure permit? $820 up to five acres. What what is that? So that's a new one. Previously,

we just had, like, an infrastructure inspection fee. So when a developer finishes all of their pipes and roads, they would call up the public works director and the city engineer and say, come look at my infrastructure, make sure it meets the public standards, and then it's your problem in a year. And so what Mikael did is she's created this new infrastructure permit and, infrastructure and grading permit as a way for us to track that. So the developer would then upload documents with all their bonding information and, you know, the precon, the preconstruction meeting notes, and things. And then that's a way where we can charge them that inspection fee upfront so that we're not losing out on having that covered by the developers in the long run. So that's also a new one that we've added here. K. There's, some other fees that we're adding in here. We've had our first case of an appeal authority. We have somebody trying to appeal one of the decisions. We found out that cost a lot more money than we thought, so we just added the plus legal review. Same with ordinance text amendment applications. And then we also have added a zoning verification letter. That's a new piece that we've added to our building permits. It's supposed to help speed it along. A lot of the times with the building permit, it will get stuck because there's multiple people to have to review. So our new requirement is the person applying for building permit gets a zoning clearance letter to get all the approvals up front, and then they turn that stamp letter into the building department. And then the building department just has to do their review of the site plan, and then they can sign off, and it's good to go. So that's working well. People are not liking the change, but, ultimately, it is helping the process go a little faster. We've updated our grammar request fees. Again, this was back to we processed a few grammar requests the past few weeks and realized that our fees were a little outdated, so we went back to the state code and copied some new guidance they have in there. I found out, I did not know this, that if it is only gonna take fifteen minutes to fill a request, if somebody wants copy of a plan set or something, we can find it within fifteen minutes, then we cannot charge somebody money for that. And so we added that in there. And then we have if it it's gonna be more than fifteen minutes long together, that time, there's a new fee structure that we're gonna charge people to make sure that we're covering our time for digging through all the government documents for the public.

How how often does that happen? Just curious.

It's been interesting. I've had at least one a week for the past couple months. K. Sometimes we go months without any. So it just depends. Okay. Well, thank you.

I do like the idea of gradually raising prices rather than waiting and then having a big jump. And I do have questions back on boundary no. No. No. No. On oh, the boundary line adjustment. It doesn't look like there's a new pricing yet. It's in red.

I think price. That might be because the price is not changing. Okay. And we went through and did these yeah. If the when we did our first round of reviews, if the price wasn't changing, we just left it off. Okay. But if it, like, if it was changing to zero, then we would have written zero.

And do you really have to get a permit to change your water heater? I see one here for a water heater replacement. Where is that? Is that in the building fees? Permit, foxtrot.3.one. Building permit fees based on valuation.

I don't know how often we do those, but it's been in the fee schedule for a long time. Maybe I just And the building department said we're gonna up that by $25, and

we said, okay. I mean, I and Generlink, I mean I mean, we got fees on here that I'm gonna approve, and I have no idea what they're even for. And, like, you gotta get a permit to get a new water heater replaced. I mean, that's what that that's how I read that. Just Yeah. That's confusing to me. I don't know.

Yeah. And most of these are pulled from a database of fees that the state puts out every year, and we just kinda have to adopt them Okay. Based on the type and the types of permits. I honestly don't know how many people get a permit to replace a water heater or to do a general link. I don't know if we've ever if we've had any since I've been here.

If you didn't know you needed to, I guess you didn't.

Anyway, I'm good. I'm just curious. We don't send our building inspectors to knock on people's door to ask them if they came and got a permit to replace their water heater. We have much bigger fish to fry. You don't reach out to all the water heater replacement companies in town and say, hey. Did anybody get a part? I I guess if if a citizen

wanted to inspect it and make sure it was safe, then that's I think that's fine. They could do that. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. We're typically more busy with

other types of inspections. We're not Yeah. Policing water heater installs. So

for all these things, recommendations,

pretty much you're following the state guidelines as for prices No. Well with, you know If we're painting with a broad brush, recommendations are either based on, requirements from the state or recalculation of staff time. And now we have a better idea of how much it costs us to do these things, and so we narrow it down.

I should add that, Darren, all of the building permit fees, Darren did a big study. I should have put it in box for you. He showed what all the other cities are charging. He did a lot of research, and it is and so he has a lot of data to support all of those changes that he's making.

And those building fees, those apply to other towns like North Logan and the other cities that we do. And I guess there's some way that they get notified that Yeah. They'll be they'll be updating theirs as well.

One last thing. We had in here a change to public works fees for an excavation permit. We're actually gonna be removing that one completely. Yeah. I'll just save you the story. We decided we're not gonna do that one anymore. So Story. You want the story? Okay. I'll get it later. I'll get it later. Short version is we wanted to charge people more money because we wanted to work with a specific company to do compaction testing for our roads. And our city attorney said, you can't require people to work with one company only. And we said, okay. So we wanna wipe that out, and we're gonna figure out another way to make sure that we get good compaction testing for our roads. Got it. Okay.

Okay. So now we're going to up open the public hearing Yes. To take citizen input on amending the fee schedule and modifying the building permit fees, administrative fees, sewer impact fees, and land use fees. So again, we encourage all participants to follow the rules of decorum by behaving with polite, respectable, and dignified contact or conduct. Please state your name for the record, speak clearly into the microphone, and use no more than three minutes. Please phrase your comments as statements, not questions. A public hearing is an opportunity to share facts and information about the topic and not exchange or and and not an exchange or dialogue. Please make sure your comments are factual, accurate, and original, and that they are addressed to the council. And you will have three minutes. We will open the public hearing at this time. Right. With no comments, we'll go ahead and close our public hearing. And we will now consider the resolution twenty twenty six dash 10, a resolution amending the Hyde Park City fee schedule to modify the building permit fees, administrative fees, and land use fees. Like, we had a fair amount of discussion. Does anybody have more questions or comments?

I move that we adopt resolution twenty twenty six dash 10 amending the Hyde Park City fee schedule to one of five building permit fees, administrative fees, and land use fees.

Okay. We have a motion by council member files. I'll second it. Okay. And a second by council member Allred. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion or the resolution is approved. Alright. Now we'll go to e, consider resolution twenty twenty six dash 14, a resolution amending the Hyde Park City fee schedule to modify the sewer impact fee based on the wastewater master plan.

I'll do it again. I move that we Wait. I think we have to have some public hearing from that one too. Did did we not? No. That's a that's another Both. A public hearing. Yeah. That was enough. Both. Okay. Now then we have another public hearing. I mean, if you want to adopt resolution twenty twenty six dash fourteen amending the Hyde Park City fee schedule to modify the sewer impact fees based on the wastewater master plan.

K. We have a motion from Council Member Fells. I'll second that. And a second from Council Member Osborne. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Okay. Resolution twenty twenty six-fourteen passes. Okay. Thank you, Seth. Are we sharing information about the ordinance, proving the agreement to abandon and modify relocate the easements at 48 Bar 1200 East?

I think I put an exhibit on Prior to the off the exhibit. Hearings?

Yeah. I did.

Oh, and you did. Okay. So before we have the public hearing, just quick summary. So the city, one of our main sources of water comes out of a spring up a canyon in Smithfield. Everybody's aware of that. There's a drain a a line from that spring to our water tanks. There is a really big drain line where if the city were to need to do an emergency drain, it's in Smithfield City. It goes through the city, and it dumps into one of the canals. We, the city staff, were notified that a developer had moved that line, that drain line to accommodate a subdivision. We reached out to Smithfield City a little grumpy that they didn't consult us in the process, But we did manage to get some as built drawings. We managed to get pictures from the contractor who built it. The last thing that we need to do is test the line to make sure that it works, which we're trying to find a good time because we don't really wanna waste all that drinking water to test the drain line. But the everything appears to be in order. The developer is requesting that we move the easement to match the alignment of the drain line, and we, as city staff, think that that is an okay thing to do. So we're recommending that you approve tonight is abandoning the old easement, which goes nice and straight, and adopting a new easement, which would go around the subdivision.

And we think it's okay to do that before it's tested? I mean, it's been moved. It is what it is. Right? It's not going back. It's gonna I mean, it's been done. It's kinda like a chicken and the egg thing, right, or a horse and cart thing.

Yeah. Our attorney basically said, well, at this point, you have two options. Option number one, we work with these people and make sure that the line drains and does what we want it to do. Option number two, we sue them, and we make them put it back, and they lose a lot in their subdivision, and we spend a lot of time in court. And so we said, well, how much was our budget for legal this year, Donya? Just kidding. So, yeah, we've been in discussions with the developer. They've been pretty good to work with. It kinda we had a a little bit of a rocky start. We were a little upset that this happened. But once we realized that they weren't intending any harm, there was just gaps in communication, we felt like we could recommend that we move forward with this.

So did we have that easement recorded and everything? I think it's Oh, yeah. Sure it was. Since 1936

or something. '37. You know, when we reached out to Smithfield City to kinda say, hey. Why didn't anybody talk to us about it? We never got a great answer. I am gonna sit down with their city manager very soon and just kind of let them know that we weren't happy with that, and in the future, we need to be notified. We we really do have a great relationship with Smithfield City. We don't feel like this is something to burn a bridge over. We just wanna make it really really clear that if there's another development that wants to encroach on our drain line, we wanna know from day one. The other thing that we realized is this probably could have been fixed in a week if we would have been brought in at the beginning, But now it's taken us, like, three months to get this figured out. I think more than that. So, yeah, we we learned a lot of things from this, but, ultimately, we just feel like it's kind of a situation that we can either go to court with this developer or we can figure it out. Cost to to move the pipe and The developer moved it all at their expense as part of the development. We were just contacted after it was all done saying, hey. Sign off on this and said, on what? But it's yeah. We've we've smoothed it out. It's k. Real Yeah. Haven't been tested. We still haven't tested it, but we did confirm that it was built according to APWA standards. Like I said, we got a plan set, and then we reached out to the contractor who built it. And he actually managed to he ended up taking pictures of the whole thing. And so he's able to send the pictures to our engineer and our public works director, and they confirmed that, yeah, it it appears that it was all built properly and according to AVWA standards. So, yeah, the last thing our attorney recommended is that we test it. So we're trying to we were gonna test it, but then we have, like, a water crisis this year or something. So we don't really wanna dump a bunch of drinking water down the drain. So we're trying to figure out how we can do a test and still be responsible with our resources.

Anandid and say, yeah, if there's problems in the future, you're on the hook.

Are we just agreeing to the relocation of the easement, not to the fact that it's a working

Yeah. We're so right We're working. To abandon the easement, we have to have that voted on by the city council. What we've kinda proposed back to the developer is, yeah, we'll let the city council vote to move the easement, but we as city staff don't wanna sign off on this and kind of make it our problem until we've actually tested the line. And so we're working out. I've got emails back and forth. I even had one tonight with the developer just saying, hey. Yeah. We're we're trying to find a time, trying to be strategic about it, and figure out when we can come test that line. So we'll keep you posted.

So there's not a real, like,

push to get this done. Well, the developer's really excited to get this done because he's got somebody wanting to buy that lot that this easement crosses over. That's it. And so he's very excited to get this done so he can sell a lot in his subdivision. John, I'm blaming. That's why people develop their land. So our the main thing we're testing,

does it leak, and does the water flow in the right direction? Yeah. And can it handle the capacity?

Because I don't know all the numbers. You know, if we had Scott Archibald from Sunrise or Brett, our public works director here, they could tell you all the PSI and everything that flies through there. But, essentially, it sounds like if we had to open that thing full blast and there was a problem in that line, we might end up washing out a house. Like, it it comes out really hard and fast if we needed to. So that's why we really wanna test it before we officially

sign it. And push that testing back until, like, October, November?

Right. So that's why we're trying to figure out when we do the test. And it's the only way to test it, basically, water out of our waterline?

Yeah. Yeah. There's no other way to, like,

get Like, you could get a water truck and find a way to dump it in, but you wouldn't get the full impact of Right. Everything all the way from the spring to that point. All that pressure, man. That's yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, again, I I think just as a procedural step, we recommend the city council votes on adopting this, but with kind of the understanding that we as city staff are gonna take this from here, and we are not gonna let this do let the developer off the hook until we've had a chance to test the line. Does that come back before us? I guess it could. I don't know how how would you want that to be presented. Final report after you

could be part of your staff report? I mean, I don't know that once they test it. And if it's working, I don't know what we're gonna do with the other I mean, if it's not working, we'll know really quick because that lot's gonna get washed

out, and you'll probably hear about it somewhere. But, again, it sounds very dramatic, but we do have confirmation that everything was built according to standard. So we're assuming that it's going to work. It's just our attorney said you we need to have that tested before we officially sign off. Because the last thing we want is somebody to build a house, then there's an emergency, and we have to kick that on full blast, and then somebody's house gets washed into the road. We don't want that to happen.

So question. The we're voting on an agreement to abandon the old easement because they've already moved it. They've already moved the pipes. Yeah. What is the modification? It says modify?

Well, and then down in paragraph six b. So six a shows that we are abandoning it, and then b says that we are now

getting a new easement. So So the modification is just the new easement, and the relocation is recording it Mhmm. As a new location. Is that what we're So Is that what that statement is saying? Okay. So we need to now have a public hearing to take citizen input on approving ordinance twenty twenty six zero eight and an ordinance approving an agreement to abandon, modify, and relocate easements located at 14 North 1200 East in Smithfield. Same rules apply. Please state your name. You'll have three minutes. I will now open the public hearing if you have any comments. Come on. One of you two. Come on. Let's say something. No comment. Okay. With that, we'll close the public hearing. And And you let me go. Consider ordinance twenty twenty six zero eight, an ordinance approving an agreement to abandon, modify, and relocate easements located at 14th North 1200 East in Smithfield.

I make a motion that we approve the agreement twenty twenty six dash zero eight knowing that the city staff will follow through on testing the line.

Prior to sign?

Yes.

Okay. So we have a motion from council member Allred to approve. I'll second it. Second from council member Fowles. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Okay. Ordinance twenty twenty six zero eight. It's been approved. Now we will move on to item h, review the truth and taxation statement and schedule.

Turn some time over to Donya. Donya. Sure. Sorry. I told you, you would get sick of hearing this, but it is required. In accordance with the requirements of the state of Utah truth and taxation law, I hereby submit the interim budget for the Hyde Park City for the fiscal year twenty twenty six twenty seven. I guess I should let you know as I'm reading this that these are more factual numbers. The numbers did come in. They haven't been completely approved, but these are most likely what the numbers will really look like. Anyway, the interim budget has been prepared in compliance with applicable provision of the Utah truth and taxation law and reflects a thorough evaluation of anticipated revenue, expenditures, and the operational needs of the city. As required by law, a property tax impact fee schedule has been prepared and is included in this interim budget.

Oh,

Hyde Park City is considering a property tax increase of approximately 9.74%, which is projected to generate an additional $95,185. General fund increase of the same, estimated impacts to taxpayers based on a $599,000 average home, residential approximately thirty two twenty nine annual increase, businesses approximately 58.70 annual increase. Hyde Park is considering an increase in the certified tax rate to point zero zero one one zero, bringing the current estimated property tax rate of 973,219 to an estimated 1,068,404. It out this outlines how the impact if it is not adopted, It will the public works department will not be able to hire an additional employee to help run equipment, etcetera, and the city will not be able to repair additional sidewalks and curb and gutter. And then there is the notice here. I'm not gonna read all of that, but we will hold a public hearing tonight to approve the interim budget. And our truth in taxation hearing will be held on August 26 at 07:00 here at the in the council chambers, and that and the budget will be the only items on the agenda.

I was worried. I was like, is it now that we can't talk about the healthiest acts?

Thank you. Now you can look at the budget. Okay.

Do we first wanna have the public hearing? Yes. K. So now, again, we are going to open the public hearing to consider resolution twenty twenty six dash 11, a resolution adopting the official 2027 fiscal year interim budget ending 06/30/2027. So with that, same rules apply, and we will open the public hearing. Comments on the budget? No comments on the budget. Come on. Alright. Well, It's been a while, Kevin. You've come here with some input.

Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. Got a practice. Okay. We'll go ahead and close that public hearing. And now move on to consider resolution twenty twenty six dash 11, a resolution adopting the official twenty twenty seven fiscal year interim budget ending 06/03/2027.

And the only thing that has changed since the many times you've seen this is the property tax reserve, the highlighted, it has been changed to reflect the more current numbers that I have.

I make a motion that we pass the interim budget for the 2027 fiscal year.

K. We have a motion by council member Allred. I'll second it. And a second by council member Fowles. Any further discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion passes. Okay. Now we'll move on to item k, consider resolution twenty twenty six dash o five, a resolution acknowledging receipt and acceptance of the High Park City fiscal year 2026 fraud risk assessment.

This is you you probably remember you've you see this every year. This is something that we have to have that you have to review every year and say that you have seen this. So if you have any questions, ask away. Basically, we do really well on our fraud risk because the only thing that we miss is I am not a CPA. I only have an accounting degree. So we do miss 20 points on not having a CPA. And the bottom one, does the entity have a formal audit committee? We do not have an internal audit committee. I mean, we have an external audit auditor that comes in and does a very thorough job. But even without those, we our risk level, as you can see, is very low.

We have good checks and balances.

Yes. That's good.

Do you think there's anything we can do to improve it? I mean, it looks pretty good. But if we were going to implement anything, was there anything you recommend? I got got a night school or something. Yeah. Yeah. I Like, let Naya become a CPA. Like to pay for me to

become a CPA? I don't. We could form an internal audit committee. Although, I feel like our external audit does I mean, they check all of this when they come and do that audit. So I feel like they do a pretty thorough job. Maybe that's for a future day when we get a little bigger. Yeah.

K. Well, I think that looks pretty good. We don't have to have a public clearing on that. So

Well, I move that we approve resolution twenty twenty six dash zero five, acknowledging receipt and acceptance of the Hyde Park City fiscal year 2026 fraud risk assessment.

Perfect. I'll I'll second.

K. So we have a motion by council member files and a second by council member Osborne. Any further discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? And motion passes rest for resolution twenty twenty six zero five. Alright. And now we'll move on to l. Consider resolution twenty twenty six dash twelve, one billing invoice per meter continued from 01/14/2026.

This is the one where the property owner is liable for the

bill. Is that right? Yes. The utility bill. Yeah. This is the one that we kinda left left out there at the last meeting. Basically, what it comes down to is our utility clerk is requesting that we just deal with landlords or property owners. We don't deal with tenants directly for utility services. The chief reason being, well, as you can see here, splitting utility charges on rental accounts, sending multiple bills for a single meter, requiring tracking or refunding tenant utility deposits. It's been kind of a maybe, like, a headache right now. It's not necessarily something that's really hard to do, but we've got

I don't know how many

a 100. Well, more like 50 townhomes that are about ready to come online that are all gonna be rentals. And we got a thousand more on the way. And so our utility clerk would really like to get a some kind of resolution one way or another from the city right now so we can start making changes in our system before we start having a lot of rentals coming online. Because most of the these fees that we charge are gonna just be kinda the same every month. Right?

Yeah. And, like, if somebody's sending a a rate for their rental,

it's not like it's gonna fluctuate a $100 a month from one month at the end. Really? Still So just the Just the water usage, I think, would be the one thing that because it was Yeah. I think I've I don't think my bills changed as long as I've lived here because I don't ever exceed, you know, that little steer water.

Yeah. Okay.

So I just don't love the wording of it, but I understand what Colette is asking because I've sat and spoken with her about the challenges of some of the I don't know. Town are they townhomes, apartments that are currently in Hyde Park where there's one meter, but she's billing it out, splitting it, and billing every person that lives there on behalf of the landlord, which I don't think is her responsibility. I feel like this is remedying that. Right?

Mhmm. I think there's companies out there that split the building up themselves and do that. I mean, that's Yeah. Other one of their main functions. So Which services.

I

I just don't like the idea because this is blanket whole town. And so if someone's renting a home, we're saying the owner of the home has to be the one responsible for the utility,

not the person living in the home. Well, no. They're they're the one that's gonna get the bill. It's gonna show up in their mailbox

and then They're responsible for it. I guess. Yeah. Right. That's the only thing I don't like. If you've got someone renting a single family home, why should they not be responsible for the utility there? Because state law gives a landlord the right to negotiate that. That's the I just don't like that wording. I feel like if you're renting a single family home, you should be able to come in and put your name

on the account. Would be okay with you changing the wording.

That's that's the only thing that bugs me about it. Yeah. Heather, I get the one meter for multiple things. That makes sense. I just don't that wording bugs me.

Which but which line specifically?

When I read okay. So I've read it earlier.

But that kinda changes the whole flavor of this because it's saying a property owner or landlord shall be billed.

Right. And I guess I have heartburn with that because that's opposed to state law. Like but I get it for the apartments that have one meter. That makes sense to say this. I just feel like it's a different use for a single family home.

So, yeah, for instance, when gateway and by the way, I went on a little tour of one of their apartments yesterday. They look really great. I think there's gonna be it's a great product going on down there. But does that mean that when these rental units I mean, do we send or is all the bills just gonna go to the

management company, the developer, the, you know Do they have one meter for the entire or those all individual? They're all individually metered. That's what see, if those are individually metered, I think that's difficult to It's just I don't know. I feel like it should go to whoever's living Yeah. Living in there. Talking to Colette, though, there's also been

on occasion, I don't know how often that happens, but that a renter just gets up and leaves and doesn't pay that last bill. And the more I mean, probably not a huge issue because our percentage of renters in town are pretty low. But that's going

to increase and multiply a year shortly. I think we should be able to send them to collections like anybody else.

Yeah. There's collections of this, and that one usually has the first and last loans. They've got

security deposit to Doesn't mean the landlords could

Yeah. Yeah. There's no guarantee that they would use their security deposit to pay the HyperCity utility bill. I don't there's no insurance by putting it on the landlord. Yeah. And then we've gotta go find the landlord, and it's just Yeah. You have to track them down. They might not even know there's a utility bill. Like, there's a lot of Like, go find out for yeah. From from us, the the renter moved because they haven't paid their bill. Sometimes renters up and move and don't even tell you. Right. They happen to me this month. I'm sorry to hear that. So it's just not me personally, but in our Yeah. So what if it was changed to say something like

you know, we have the first line stayed the same, one utility billing invoice per meter, but then what if it was specified that, yeah, if an individual unit was on an individual meter, that'd be separate. What we were we'd be looking for is in the case where there's one meter for multiple units. In that case, we would only deal with the landlord. We wouldn't deal with individual tenants if there's only one meter for multiple units.

That solves my heartburn with it, I feel like. Okay. But I do and I feel like I understand where she's what she's trying to do with this, and I support that.

I feel like that would resolve my heartburn. And right now, that would resolve a lot of the cases we're having currently. But, yeah, in the future again, nobody's got a crystal ball that's working right now, unfortunately. Assuming we have good like, we'll use the gateway just because that's gonna be the next one that's up and running. They're gonna have a professional property management group. We're assuming they're vetting the people who they come into their housing. One of the things they're asking for is to have the city consider letting them do maybe, like, a restricted housing amendment to their development agreement. We're looking at that with them right now. So we know they're gonna be keeping a close eye on it. It might not be a problem with them. So, I mean, that would at least put a resolution to the problems that we're having now with the units that have multiple tenants on a single meter.

Do we have a lot of those?

There's a handful. Enough that it takes a lot of Colette's time. Like, if we compare the amount of time that's spent on the handful that we have compared to the rest of the city, it's very imbalanced. Colette's spending a lot of time babysitting, tracking, and following these multifamily units we already have gonna grandfathered throughout town than she spends on regular normal, not normal, regular single family housing that we have for the majority of the town.

And that your comment there kinda gets to bullet five there that the policy change eliminates the need for splitting utility charges on rental accounts. So we just don't split it. It's gonna go one and, I mean and I guess the landlord would have to decide which tenant gets it and divides it by four or if they get it, but it's not gonna be us. They charge a flat rate and make up the difference whether we want it. It's not gonna be the city. It also addresses sending multiple bills for a single meter. So it addresses that. And then the requiring tracking or refunding tenant utility deposits, yeah, it's gonna hit miss. But I think your comment, Tiffany, by not sending it to the landlord wherever they may live, but just it's one one bill

per meter. Per meter. And that person is accountable.

Right. And it solves, I think, what

the intent of this change is trying to get at. I understand. So in the gateway, if they have individual meters, we'll be sending an an individual bill to each of the renters there. Right. Yeah.

Like, that's a problem. Invasive?

Not necessarily. So I mean kind of a we're we're gonna chase a squirrel for a minute. When the city was first approached with all these multifamily units, there was a huge debate amongst the city staff on do we do one meter for for everybody or multiple meters for multiple units. We're still debating it today. But the decision that was made was if it is a if it was a townhome unit or a single family home, we wanted a meter per unit. If it's an apartment complex, we want one meter for the entire complex, and that's how we're operating. Now when a lot of these get built and they're underway, maybe we'll find out this was a mistake. But for now, that's the direction the city staff have gone because we feel like that's more really, it came down to being equitable. You're if we had to shut off a water meter for, you know, a townhome complex, you you wouldn't wanna shut off the master meter and then have the entire development without water. Now, Now, conversely, with an apartment complex, you can notify the landlord, and they should build an individual shutoffs for each of the units, and then the landlord can take care of it. But we just felt like with a big multifamily townhome development where there's a lots of different things happening in there, lots of different ownership situations, we didn't feel like it was great to have one single meter for townhome operation. So that's why we're doing it this way.

I think that's wise. I think it keeps housing affordable too. If those units that the Jinx are building were all serviced by one meter, it would raise the rates of their rent regardless. They wouldn't just they're not gonna get the bill and just pass along the water bill fee because they're gonna add a management fee and a for breaking out their bill. They're gonna have all these fees on top of it that's gonna make housing more expensive. So I feel like this is a wise approach to try and mitigate our our issue, but still make it affordable for it's gonna impact housing in the long run. So

So what I'm hearing is we're good with the resolution as long as we add a line that says something about this only applying to

like, I get I think number two. Line number two is the problem. Yes. Yeah. It just says property owner or landlord. And if it just says resident or

or tenant resident or tenant? Well, maybe we need to add so maybe we need to say the property owner or landlord of each multifamily dwelling with only one meter will be built. That's Would that fix it? And then maybe we add a new line three that says, tenants of units that have one water meter per living unit may create a tenant account with the city.

Alright. Do you want the account to be different, or is it just a general account?

I mean, right now, I think they're all kind of the same. We have a note on them. That's called an account. Just maybe

even address that. Yeah. Just let them come in and service their you you get their utility service. I kinda like the change to to line two, and then line paragraph three is kind of a subset of that. You know, the property owner owner with multiple units in one meter is responsible, and they're responsible for the payment and collecting from new tenants. And so I that would be just sub bullets of So just add that same text to line three as well. Is it property or landlord

of a multifamily unit with one meter Yeah. Shall be responsible for it. That right. Okay.

I like Or just in debt yeah. Or just to make a part of the

I think that's a good compromise. I know it's not what we were asking for as a city staff, but I feel like it's a good compromise because it helps eliminate some of the problems we're having now, but also sets it up that in the future, we can, yeah, head off some of the more problematic ones. We'll still have problems with renters in single family or multifamily units. That's not gonna go away no matter what we do, but at least this lets us really simplify down the most complicated accounts we have. We have one meter, and we're trying to calculate how to split the bill and who does it, and it's just the paint. So thanks for at least giving us that.

I think, yeah, it needs a good address. So I think it I think that's a good compromise. How do you all feel about that? Well, when it keeps us in line with state law. Right? Yeah. We're not taking away anybody's property rights.

We're just Well, to be fair, our previous city attorney said that So that this approach was okay, and we weren't necessarily violating state law. I just feel strongly about it. So I know. But I just wanna be clear that we We're not we as city staff did not propose that we break the law.

We're not We never would. Not saying that. No one else up here feels strongly about anything. So Okay. Never Can't

tell. Go for it.

Alright. So I can I make a motion where I'm conducting the meeting? I'll motion that we approve, resolution twenty twenty six dash 12 with those amendments that previously

mentioned. Which we have noted here for the record.

And we can do that. Right? We don't have to we we trust you to I trust Anya and not miss fully. I can confirm that. I'll make sure that

I can confirm that

make sure that I can confirm that make sure that I can confirm that make sure that I can confirm that approve something that you're not The notes on the paper do match the wording discussed. Okay.

I'll second that. Okay. We have a motion by council member Atkinson in, second by council member Brower. Any further discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? K. Motion passes. I have a quick question.

With all of the things that are happening, I mean, for example, us as homeowners, do we pay the same? We don't have to pay We're gonna quadruple yours. Just kidding. No. I No. It's it should be the same. No. My my point is is people that are in these townhouses, do they get a break? I mean, do they

So that goes back to the water rate that we looked at last time. We are proposing right now, it's all the same. But in the new water rate, Colette is proposing that there'd be a different water rate for people in multifamily units that would give them a little bit of a break.

But, yeah, we can we're gonna have her prepare her statement and her rate study information, and we'll represent that at a future meeting. As far as waste, is that in a big dumpster in some of these places, or are they they don't have all cans, do they?

It depends. I think, generally, who from what I can remember, I'm pretty sure all of our developments here have dumpsters. But I've lived in there's I lived in Town Hall Complex in Logan where we all had trash cans, and there was a dumpster for recycling. So there's it's mixed. But I'm pretty sure in the ones that we've approved, they're all dumpsters.

I think it's nice that they have dumpsters, but Yeah. Doesn't whatever they want. Alright. Now I'll move on to our discussion item. We'll let Dave lead it. Discussion of track traffic recommendation priorities. Dave, remind us your the Sure. Top ones that you wanted to discuss.

Yeah. A couple items, and I think we we started going down that that path earlier. And maybe last month with me being virtual and a long meeting, I will tell you that representing the safety committee and the residents that reach out to me, I I felt that we did a disservice last week when some of these things were pretty simple and pretty easy and, you know, it's safety stuff, and I didn't bring these things up. And, you know, if I can't imagine we'd even say anything about budget. Like, well, we can't afford, you know, a $100 sign because, you know, we're spending our many hundreds of thousands on other kinds of things that, you know, look at our millions of dollars budget. So I would hope that in the future that we don't. And I know that in the budget, there's money set aside for the safety committee that we can kind of use and use it for signs in the past and various things. But. I don't know. I I just say, I don't think that's a good reason to say, well, we don't have money in the budget to protect our children. You know, we're just not gonna put up sidewalks and signs for the new schools going in because, hey, it's not in the budget. You know? And that's kinda how I I felt after last month. So I'm just going to. Throw that up based on Marcus's comment of having them the. What do we call it? The standard operating procedure procedures, the charter that was something the mayor came to the committee with. Months ago and proposed that that's a great idea. Let's get this kind of in writing. Marcus's comment last time that if we're going to. Formalize that, then it becomes kind of a. Formalized you know, it's gonna require all the open meeting notifications and so forth. And Oh, I would rather have or or you comment on I would rather have it be ad hoc and take things from the citizens and do the best we can within our organizations like you do with some of your things and rather than try to formalize this to the point where, Oh, now we can't meet because we did a solidify and we had another one of our residents. Is now working full time. So the committee right now is the mayor, Garell, myself, Bob Christiansen. And, you know, we got to reach out to others and on occasion we put stuff in the newsletter like, we could use more people in the safety committee, kind of like you've reached out and you've reached out for help and sometimes it's crickets and so forth. So To have this great procedural thing that says we're gonna have all these people and we're gonna have. I'm not sure it's required, so I'm. I'm proposing that we just kind of drop that and I haven't talked to the mayor about it, but that's. Kind of what I would closely do with that. We'll just. I'll try to formalize that. So the other items. I think again, there's no, there's no reason that we couldn't. Put 25 mile an hour signs down by the park. I think we need to do that. I don't know that we've put signs that say it's 25 miles everywhere in Hyde Park unless otherwise notified. I think Smith Field does that. Some other municipalities

do. Do you think we could just amend our ordinance to say 25 miles? Because I think that impression that I have is that is the speed limit. So other people might think the same, so maybe we could start there. I I think yeah. I don't know how to think about it. Where

yep. Where he's gonna lose it. It's 30. None of us know it already. Until you read it. Right. So maybe the safety committee can hunt through the code and make sure they find all references to that silly thing and propose an edit for That's

for consideration. I guess if you get pulled over, you could use that. All that.

You knew that. Now you can you mentioned some of the chief because he's been giving us reports from the traffic, from the speed grader. 25. Yeah. If well, we are you know, that's what it says. And so I don't know if there's the ordinance overruled assigned by anyway, all of his reports, you know, we you know, we're monitoring, you know, 85%

of people are going 25 to 30. Well, they're okay, I guess, you know, now that we know it. Anyway, Marcus, I think you were gonna make a call. Yeah. And quick thing on the the committee and the language, we ended up sending that to the city attorney to try to figure out if we could just have it be an advisory committee. We didn't have to get all formal about it, and he amended the draft to make sure that we could do that. And so I need to send it to you so you can present it back to the safety committee. But we do have a version where we can keep the committee kind of informal. The big caveat to that is what you've already been doing is you the committee will have no authority whatsoever to spend money. Everything will have to go back to the city council to actually spend dollars, and the council can budget, you know, appropriate funds for the recommendations, but the safety committee will not be able to assign any funds specifically that will all have to come back to the city council to actually spend the money.

And that improves that. Because I I think it also has served a good purpose too. It's like, okay. Here's kind of our charter. Here's the kind of things we ought to be looking at and we can consider. So I think it was bad to have it, but at the same time, like, it was so worth it. So Yeah. I'll I'll look at that. Yeah. I'll send it to you. So putting 25 mile an hour speed limits By the park? Take taking down the thirty five one that's on the boundary between us and North Logan on the south side of our system. So 35? It's 35. That's my whole frustration is is 30 in North Logan and then right before you hit the traffic circle, it says 35. First, speed up and then slow down and then you can hold 35 as as far as you want apparently until you find a 25 mile an hour sign because there's not you know what I mean? So So if we get rid of 35.

So fix the 30 of to are you moving into 30? To 25?

To 25 by the park and the roundabout. Yeah. The safety committee recommendation was to drop it to 25.

That was that's the recommendation because that's what it is everywhere else. And we need to be consistent. And I think that's and in fact, we need to take down the 35 mile an hour sign that's hitting south on 250 East before you get to the park. Just replace it with the 25. And replace it with the 25. Dave, can we just get you a black a can of black spray paint? Just go ahead and just modify our sign. Apparently, you haven't been down those roads recently. There's two ways. I've been done it.

So everybody at do you ever have doing that? Everybody's in favor of that? What about the no parking by the roundabout?

No park you know, that to me, again, we had this conversation now. Big deal. Again, I'm not dreaming these things up. People are coming to us, you know, and coming to other residents and saying, that's really dangerous down there, you know. And people are flying by the park and people are parking there, and they just park closer and closer to the intersection.

Can I tell you the other day, I was coming into town and this lady was unloading her kids out of her minivan, and she was in the minivan and the toddler's, like, wandering into the street and a car's coming, and nobody nobody is looking? Nobody's looking, and I'm, like, screaming, where's your mother? Your mother. And it's dangerous, so I'd rather see them not park there for reasons like that, where soccer ball is rolling into the road. Because we did out of the car. Get down here. We start by putting

you know, and I I have to do the research, and I get with Marcus and Brett, but it would be, you know, no parking between these sides. And they have a couple of them, you know, between the roundabout and up to where the parking lot is Yep. On that whole side. But with that means, there's there's less parking available. So Certainly. At some point, if we overflow Expand that. If we overflow our current parking need. And I talked to the mayor, and he said, well, we could just move those mounds of dirt where the parking is on the north side there and just, you know Maybe that can be part of our park master plan if we add parking to our plan. Yes. Right? That would be considered I'm thinking about yeah. Absolutely. I think it's made of But Well Right. And that could just be overflow parking here. Mayor said, yeah. I mean, just kinda The the

pump track was never adopted? How do I say it? Yeah. It was never adopted on a formal, like, master plan of the park. So if the city council wanted to bulldoze it, we could bulldoze it. You just I will tell you word.

In North Logan, just east of the turf fields they have in their park, they now have the parking lot paved, but, initially, they just were kind of road based. You know?

Yeah. And just you know? And it was that way for a few years. I think that's good. Because I absolutely think that that part needs more part. Yeah. And if the study comes back recommending otherwise, I'm just good to Then they won't know whether I thought we overhaul it. We've we've had people asking for more soccer fields down there for years. One of the things the mayor has thrown out to us as city staff is maybe we get rid of the the pump track, do additional parking, and then put grass in the rest of it to create a smaller soccer field. There's lots of options. We've kind of put a pause on anything, proposing anything. As you know, we've had a lot of stuff happening in the parks, a lot of work to be done, but that's something that we've looked we have been looking at for a while. We just never put together numbers or did, like, a cost estimate. But, yeah, there's Yeah. There wasn't, like, a master plan for that section of the park. So if you wanna get rid of the pump track and replace it with something else, you just Myself. The word. That dirt?

We could find one. Is there is there room right now to even ex to extend off the parking lot? Currently, with, like, road base like Gerald's proposing. Yeah. We Some dirt needs to be moved.

We can move some dirt. Yeah. But I could go out with with Brett and kinda walk around and with Jed, and we could mark some things out and do some measurements. I mean, we could do it. It's kinda set up that we could do in addition in to the parking relatively easily. Yeah. If we're talking about doing asphalt and It's okay. Curb and gutter,

we're gonna have to No. I I wait. I think we we certainly wait on that, but to move some dirt and put it some road base. Because then it might remedy the few spaces you're losing

in front of the park and give people a place off. K.

Well provides a solution. So when they get more of a sports park

Right. So on purpose. And the the last piece of food for thought, there are some people who use that bike track. You will you will hear from them if we take it out. So we're happy to do it. We're happy to bring you back some measurements and a proposal, but there's a very vocal group

who who really like that dirt who will see a set of you take cycles on there or bikes? Is it? Both. My research says that's not really a pump track.

Yeah. No. We see we definitely see more motorized vehicles on it, and the PD has a really hard time kicking kids out because we don't have signage or anything. Well, we have one sign that people pull out and hide so that

the police can't It's it's more the mob. This and the banks and this and that. You know, it's not for your six or eight year old on his bike out there to ride. I mean But I would say we have the wide pass so children could bike through the park. And for the mountain bikers, we're working on a mountain bike trail up the canyon. And this and there's still a lot of dirt mounds out there. You know, I'm not calling the pump. There's dirt mounds out there. Even if we moved 50 feet or whatever it is, 60 feet for parking, there's still a lot of dirt out there. By the way, Nibali is having their grand opening of their bike park down at the Visionary whatever development. I don't remember on Monday, I think, at 06:00.

That makes sense. If anybody's interested in Their their mayor happens to be a really big biker.

That seems to make a difference. They use a lot of grant money to do that, which is pretty nice. I might hit them. So, I I would say, maybe we get some. I don't know, I was gonna say, perhaps we create additional parking before we say no parking along the street, but at the same time, I'm thinking that's one of the. The most dangerous places in town right now is people parking

between the roundabout, you know, in that parking lot. So I don't know. I just like to say no parking, and then we'll we'll work on the solution. Put put some no parking signs up now? No. That's my opinion. I'm okay with that. I know I'm not on the council. But Don't you give us your opinion? No. I just think several times I've driven by there, and they're parked out on the road, and there's parking inside that they haven't used. Yes. So I don't Exactly.

It's just much easier to park there, walk across the sidewalk with your chairs, and just sit right there on the side of the field than to So maybe we need a fence like they put up down here.

That's a lot of money. They got a grant for that, didn't they? How about we start with some signs? Well, the so the fence at Lee Park total bill was, like, $37,000. The grant that we got from NU was, like, $7. So we still paid, like, $30,000 Yeah. For our parks fund

for those that fencing. I would like to see the So parking posted there.

Yeah. Send her then later. And let's make more additional parking than we think we need.

K. I I'll start tomorrow getting a plan put together, and we'll try to get some kind of site plan drawn up or something, and I'll bring that back to the council before we actually both have anything.

Then the last item, Dave, was the the child well, children that

children are present. And that's a that's a standard. Those are those are your options out of the manual I kept referring to. You you put the school, the speed limit, and then you can put the hours or children are present or when flashing or the hours and the days. And the quick and easy thing is just get one of those small when children are present. I mean, you add the student signs. And if there's a separate sign, you just put it below. Yep. You just mount it directly underneath. You'd have the school. And right now, we just have that. Yeah. But the standard is you add either that or that or that or that one or two. And so you get two of those small signs and you put them right below it on the same signpost and that resolves that. Okay. The only other thing, and it's been on the agenda for a while, and is is changing the yield signs on 100 West and 101 Hundred west, one hundred north, and one hundred west, two hundred.

Did that one require a traffic study? So the engineers recommended that that one at least have a memo. They don't sit they didn't say it needed a full on traffic counts traffic study, but they said that they would the city would be protecting ourselves from liability if we had some sort of formal document from Sunrise doing a high level analysis of switching from yield to stop and what impact that would have. And what does it charge us to have a memo written? Well, they said it would be up to, like, four hours of staff time. Their engineers, if it's, like, an intern working on it, and then if it's a PE signing off, you're, you know, 400 to $600.

Per road or total? Per memo. Per memo. So for the intersection. Right? We bought a lot of red cars and trucks for those guys, haven't we? Yeah. We have. Seems like it. I see them everywhere. Their new ones are white, though. So If the city will pay for the stop signs, I will pay for the middle.

I don't think that you need to. I think that's that's generous on your behalf, but I think it's the city's responsibility.

Well, it it is, but, you know, I'm passionate. I'll I'll help them with the study since I've already talked to them about it and I've highlighted the I mean, we've talked about this. It doesn't meet the accident requirements. It doesn't meet the traffic flow requirements. About the only thing it really does meet is that the ones going East West where we want to change shields and stops are lower classification than the one than 100. Mhmm. It's a it's a minor collector, I think, or whatever the others are just, you know, your local roads. The fact that you've got stop signs that the intersections, the two intersections north of there, you know, it just kind of. It's just kind of like, how come it says it's still 30 miles an hour, you know, and in Hyde Park, and it's really 25 in our code. We had no signs, and then we went to Yields, you know, and over the years, now we've looked more traffic. You know, that's a bike route. We're gonna have more kids going every which direction. You know, it's just. And I'm certainly in favor and of, you know, less is more when it comes to that. I don't wanna stop at the four way stop when we shouldn't have to. You know what I mean? They're, you know, those kinds of things. So I'm not in favor of just putting stop signs up all over fields will work. And and I learned that as I was doing this a year when I first got here, part of the safety committee, I'm walking around going like, well, these PUDs, there's no signs coming out of there. They need how come the developer didn't put a stop sign or a yield sign up there? Well, you start looking closer to code, and you don't even have to have a yield or stop at every intersection, you know, if it doesn't warrant it. So anyway

Yeah. I I think, Dave, I think when you weren't here, our conversation, if I remember correctly, we were just kind of looking at, do does Sunrise need to check these things? And maybe we grouped everything in, and we could've got some other things going sooner. But it was I think that was kinda what happened. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So next next Tuesday, we have a regularly scheduled update meeting with Sunrise to go over all the projects, things they're working on. Dave will attend those a lot of the times, so we'll bring up that we want them to do a memo at that meeting. And if you'll attend next week, Dave, you can help remind me, and we'll get that underway.

Do do you think a faster method would be Dave goes to those meetings when we have a group of things we want done, and and they can just maybe check off these we won't need to do and maybe this, and we'll do a high level look. Or, I mean, would that help us Yeah. Get it done quicker?

It it might. I sometimes will just talk offline with these guys. Oh, okay. You know, I just you know, we're sitting there waiting for somebody else to show up as a, hey, Josh. Got a question about you know, and that's kinda almost how we started conversations about Yeah. You know, Forteastern, 450 North, and the 700 East, and, you know, some of those four way stop kinds of things that we just kinda started talking about it formally and some of the requirements and such. And And and frankly, not too many people have come to the safety committee about things recently. And I mean, you know, so when no one comes to us, I just we didn't have one this time. Because, like, well, all the stuff that we've been talking about for months, we're still kinda waiting for city council action. No sense in adding more. And in fact, right now, I don't have, you know, any anything that anybody's brought to me or that I even need to have a safety committee meeting for. So Yeah. Anyway, that's kinda where we are on that committee. We didn't meet this month because of that.

Maybe I'll just bring up so down here in the off of 200 West in that Cove subdivision, the retirement one. I I pushed to get a stop sign put in there because somebody's granddaughter came to visit there, and she was a young driver. And she just drove out there with it. You know? And there's no stop signs. I know. Yeah. I see that.

So, anyway And I think as I read the manuals, I mean, it's a young driver just hasn't learned that. Learned that hard work in this case. You know? But Yeah. That anytime you hit an intersection, you know, it'd be hooves the driver to, you know, make sure the intersection is clear. Right. Yeah. And that

yeah. Yeah. That's

that's a it could be a challenge.

Anyway, thank you all for listening. I think that's those will be good additions to make our community safer. Alright.

Do you want to

Yes. Motion that we adjourn? Are you ready? Steph? I want an update from Stephanie on what we can do to help everything. Yes.

Well, I I am going to have assignments for each of you, probably more so than last year. One one problem that we've received feedback from is the barrel train car. In the past, we have not charged for that. And what happens is kids that are not supervised will come and ambush the train. So people waiting on line don't get a seat, but the kids ambush the train to jump on. And so we've gotta make a queue so that people are waiting, and we're going to charge one ticket so that we can kind of alleviate that problem also. But I I do need somebody there for the whole time the train is running to kind of corral the chaos. So that's gonna be one of the assignments is I'm not I'm not gonna make somebody sit there for three hours, but maybe one hour each. So

Do we get a badge?

That sounds You you get a you get a a training engineer's hat. Yeah. That's still weird. You're gonna get you're gonna get a shirt.

Yeah. What are the shirt styles gonna look like? Because that's gonna make I'm sorry. Well, you'll you'll have to ask Dania purchase? You'll have to ask Dania what style she the ladies in the office are picking up the ladies. The guys just get polo. So it'll probably be something like this with a nice embroidered logo on it for all of them. It's cool, though. You said one of our staff members designed it? Yeah. Bolton, our one of our public works guys, he is on our city celebration committee, and he designed the logo. He also has a side gig where he does graphic design. Well, I'd like to pull some. What color are the shirts gonna be? I don't know. You'll have to ask John. I'm part green. Maybe red, white, or blue. So we're we're doing a couple of things. We're doing formal shirts for everybody. Like, I emailed, we need your shirt sizes. But we're also looking at making, I don't know, like, fifty or a 100 just plain basic, maybe, like, light gray T shirts with a black Hyde Park City logo on the front and a black city celebration, America two fifty logo really big on the back. And we're thinking we give those out to volunteers, to staff people, to whatever. Maybe you can get thrown out of the parade. Maybe it's sold. I think we're still trying to figure out if that's something we need to recoup the costs for or if we're just gonna give it out. The mayor's kind of commissioned us to

look into that. We have some for sale to because two hundred and fifty years, like, people might be interested. I don't know. I'm saving I saved my Hyde Park car T shirt. Oh, okay. You know, two hundred and fifty years for America is kind of a big deal. And if you were there in Hyde Park and you have a T shirt, maybe some people would wanna buy them.

Yeah. That's I just I just think back to the first year of the car show. It was like, yeah. We need T shirts, and we'll sell all these T shirts. No. We didn't. Selling. Could we preorder them? We didn't.

I'll I'll work it out for preorders?

Then we go. You're gonna this was, like, the mayor's idea. He wanted to get lots of stuff made. And so we're we're getting prices. We haven't ordered anything yet. We, for sure, are doing the embroidered shirts for everybody. We haven't ordered the the big bundle of shirts yet. We kinda wanted to get a price together first and then take that back to him and say, you sure you wanna do this? And, also, I neglected to set another committee meeting for this month. So maybe you can just tell me if you want to have another committee meeting or if we're set. So Yes. We'll talk. Also, remember when we're selecting the color that July is very hot? Yes.

Blue is not a great color. Red is not a great color. Something

Yeah. For the we're looking at is a good color for July. Yeah. That's a good point for the embroidered shirts. For the mass produced one, we're thinking, like, a light light gray. Yeah. So not, like, white because then if it yeah. Not not white, but, yeah, like, a light light gray. And then with black silk screen stuff. Is that Yeah. Yeah. Like, a Hyde Hyde Park City, and then on the back is really big. The city celebration, America two fifty logo.

Just one more thing to keep in mind as we're being so generous is that the city celebration, the majority of the things are already free. So it's not like we are not being generous because we are the inflatables cost a lot of money. The fireworks too, but they will be fully covered this year by Cache Valley Bank. Nice. Sponsors.

Cool. I have her comments. I will just say that the Hyde Park City celebration is better than Raspberry Days Hey o. By people who live in Garden State. They said, this is way better.

Nice. Way better activity to bring your family to. And I just wanna tell you, I'm so excited about one inflatable. It's a great big dome, and inside is gonna be laser tag.

No way.

That might help. Just kids or kids? It might not.

They'll come out of beer red by that state. Definitely, I have been working on the horse thing.

You have. And success?

Well, I've had some different groups reach out. I mean, I put it out on the Cache Valley horse lovers something or other Facebook. And, so there's people that are interested and even some riding groups Awesome. That have expressed interest. I gave them the place to sign up. So I don't know if you've had any horse people. I think I think my,

yeah, my prey director reached out and said we've had some horses sign up. We need to talk about that. So Okay. Well, I'll I'll send another message as we get closer and try to A couple of our prizes for that, Road Apple contest is a couple of toilet seats donated by Lease Plumbing. Okay. That's funny. Seems appropriate.

You may wanna give them something else because don't you want to encourage it?

There is some other ideas. But the thing is too is I don't know how many people are going to win. So, yeah, I'm trying to I mean, we've had flat peddler step up and give very generous gift cards. Yeah. Yeah. Like, $75.

Yeah. Okay.

I know.

Well Anyway, we'll we'll make some prizes and our road apple queen judge aka Melissa Jacobson, in her big pink formal and high heels and her banner will be the ultimate judge of that so we can kind of control it that way. Just make sure the horses have a lot for breakfast.

Yeah. The shore.

That'll be fun, and hopefully, we'll have some winners this year. I just love it. The a couple years ago, there was a little boy and the horse scooped right in his circle and he was jumping up and down saying, I won. I won. I won. And everybody was clapping and cheering. So we've got a winner going on here. We would love this.

And it's gonna be the traditional parade route down Center Drive this year. We'll do Center. Yeah. No construction this year. That'll be nice. Yes.

That too. But the other thing is I might not have let you in on this. The church is not allowing any selling on church property. Therefore, the vendors and our booths have to be in the parking strip. And so they will be located on the West Side. We're gonna close Main Street. And so maybe it'll work out better. I don't know. But it'll it'll all be configured a little differently, and maybe it'll be better.

It'll feel like a street bear kind of. Yeah. And then you'll have your activity along the way. From yeah. Just

So will like, youth council will be able to be in the shade. I've got Zutalk coming. They'll be able to be in the shade. I've got the Sandtruck coming. It'll be able to park in the shade.

So That'll be good. So anything for sale will be on Main Street or the parking strip along there, and other activities will be wherever Excuse me. And don't tell me differently if this is not true.

I'm assuming that we own the city owns from the road to the sidewalk. So that's where I'm gonna have the vendor trucks and the booths. I'll be out in the sun.

I hope that I can Marcus is gonna look it up on the parts of Europe.

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure you're right.

Don't tell me if I'm wrong because I'd just rather leave out later. You know what? That might be cool, though, because you could really build on that in the future and maybe have more people that are vendors.

Well, I'll just shifting everything to the north and west. Mhmm. So

yeah, cool. If you, like, turn one street into the the Art Street, you have artists to come and do stuff, and then another street can be the the Food Street. We could do a lot with that in the future.

Want to walk that far? You might be surprised. July. I don't know. You might be surprised. Someday, we might be big enough that people won't mind walking that far because there's a lots A lot to say. Lot to do. Lot to do. But the booths that are just there for information, sharing this without say of selling anything can still be in the parking lot. Like, I thought it's true. If Healthy Heights wanted to have a booth just to inform people about every kid outdoor and get your kids outdoor and do these adventures, they could be in the parking lot. That's right. Okay. Very good. I know we talked the school district, perhaps. I don't know where we are on that steering committee I was asked about. I was like They asked me if they were anyways, that's another topic. But they, like, they dropped the ball, and they are not meeting anymore, and nobody knows what's happening. And I was like

We've got major issues boiling with this school district right now. So we're gonna have troubles with them real soon.

Okay. Tanya, can I ask you a quick question before I forget? If a business from Hyde Park wants a booth, do we charge them? It's a business located in Hyde Park. I think it's it's

a maybe a home business. No. No. It's not. Or in some cases, I I know somebody came last year, and they don't have a home business, but they had a a table, you know, attend to set up a booth last year where they were selling things, but they don't have a home business per se. You know, You know, this is just like, let's make stuff for hometown days and make a little extra money for the kids. Residents are free. Out of towners cost $20.

Businesses, we charge $20. This one is a business from Hyde Park, though. So Nashville.

I don't or reach out. Yeah. I I I would think that's your call. 20? I mean, if you want if you we don't have any policy about that. So that's your call. Okay.

If you choose, let us know so we can make a policy. Right. Okay.

Just make it up as I do. Oh, I'll be fair.

Oh, that would be awesome. Alright.

Great. Any other discussions? Yeah. If you have anything that you especially want to do for that day, please let me know. You know, volunteer. Yeah.

Yeah. Alright.

Hey. I'll make a motion that we go home. We have a motion to adjourn.

I'll second that. And a second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. I was opposed to. Okay.