Hyde Park City Council 2.25.26

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There we go. Alright. We wanna welcome everybody to our February 25 city council meeting. We appreciate you coming, and apparently we have something good on the shore because this is what we would call a packed house. Council member Tiffany will Atkinson will give us our opening prayer and pledge, and we'll go to that point.

Our dear Heavenly Father, we're grateful for the opportunity we have to meet tonight as the Hyde Park City Council and members of our community. We're grateful for the city we live in and for the opportunities we have to serve one another. We're grateful for our freedom and for the blessing that is in our lives. We pray that this night as we discuss the matters that come before the council that we might have open minds and ears to listen and minds to discuss and communicate in order to make the best decision on behalf of our community. We're grateful for the mayor and for his leadership and ask that that will bless him. And we ask you to watch over this this night, and we pray for these things in name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the republic for which it stands, one nation, anointing God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. The the third item on our agenda is to review and approve the meeting minutes from February 11. So councilman David, Stephanie?

Did you get one? Yeah.

Tiffany? Nothing for me. Gerald, do you know? Having it it was Stephanie's that she sent you included? Yes. Okay. Just his

name of Craig Winder at s b n in attendance. So Okay. Although it it wasn't on the form to fill in. So Okay.

Having no other amendments, I look from motion to approve the meeting minutes from February 11. So moved. Got a motion from Dave. Is there a second? Second from Stephanie. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Nay. Any opposed with nay? Thank you. The next item is the agenda that we have before us. I do not have anything else to add to it. If the council doesn't, look for a motion to approve the agenda as written. I'll motion we approve the agenda as written. I'll second it. We got a motion from Tiffany and the second from Gerald. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay. The next item is to receive resident input on any items that are not currently on the agenda, and we'd ask you to limit it to three minutes. And we would also remind you that the council may not answer things. We wanna get through the the public input portion. The council after we close that, they may come back and provide some input, but there may be questions asked that may not be in the purview, actually, of the council. They may go back to public works and things like that. And so we'll we'll go to that. So we'll open it up at this time for resident input. If you come to the mic and let us know who you are and and tell the council what wonderful stuff they're doing. Come on. Having oh, having some. Remember, I said wonderful stuff.

It is wonderful. Okay.

Oh, you guys were building a house. I'm still here. Okay.

So we're the nice, Tom, Kim, and I, and we'll start our time

now. Go ahead.

So we are building a house, and we are here to talk about impact fees. According to your code, they are created for there to supplement or to pay for any additional demand or need for public facilities. But we have lived there for ten years, and the house has been there for a hundred plus years. And so according to the code, it says the city may adjust the impact fees in order to ensure that the impact fees are imposed fairly. And according to the Utah code, the purpose of impact fees is the payment of money to mitigate the impact of new development on public infrastructure. So we've already lived there. We're not adding new people to the park or to the roads or to the water. We've already been consuming everything, and so we're asking that we not have to pay those impact fees, which billing department had told us we wouldn't have to because we're already a preexisting residence.

Okay. So to that, our lot already has been connected to water, connected to sewer, served by roads, assessed property taxes, like she mentioned, from us over ten years in the home or a lot longer than that. Those facilities were already built and funded. I guess, in conclusion, and I'm glad during your invocation, you invoked the blessings of our creator because there's a court case that talks about reasonable payments, reasonable funds. And I'm not ask we're not asking for free things. Everyone needs to pay their share. We're just saying that we should not be required to pay again for the infrastructure that already exists and already served our prior home. Let's see. We still have one dwelling unit. It's on the same lot. We will have one dwelling unit. It will be on the same lot. The same basic residential uses will exist. There's no increase in units. There's no change in the well, there will be no change to the dwelling structure. It's still a single family residence within that residential core. And I need to add that we do pay our taxes. We do pay our fees. But to assess this particularly for the stormwater, there is no stormwater within resident residential core. There's no curb and gutter. We we talked a couple months ago about the infill development and how it should be benefit financially to those two years. So that's that's our time. Thank you. Alright. Thank you.

Is there any other public input at this time? Having none, we'll close the public input. Marcus, would you could you address the impact fees? I think you're building a new home. Aren't you on there, or is this Mayor. Addition an additional residence? Like, I remember you coming. I just don't remember the specifics. We're happy to reach out to the NICE as soon as tomorrow to get more information and figure out what's going on. Okay. Do that. So Yeah. I I remember you came. I just and it was I think it was for your one of your children, I think, or k. Alright. Well, I was hoping that you were farther along. Okay. Alright. So the staff will reach out to you and discuss this tomorrow. Okay? We'll move on to the next item, and that's to discuss, mayor, staff, and council reports. Council actually, before that, I'm gonna well, go ahead. Anybody anything you got, Kirk? Gerald, do you have anything?

I just had a question. I I know this new pavement that got put in on Center Street seems to be really rough. For the dip there? Well, just in general.

Oh, the additional asphalt or I was thinking, like, crosscut. Well, just the

coming down Center Street, you know, that they put in late in the year just seems to be a little ripply. Kind of I don't know. Has anyone noticed that?

I usually don't I don't drive up that high. But Well, no.

Same breaker last was here two weeks ago, and I think he missed that meeting. He actually

brought that up. He was bringing up the crosscuts that were there were some sinkholes. I mean, there there is one of those too, but I guess just the general asphalt seems to be really We haven't done a final walk through with them on anything. Yeah. So If we could just

look at that, I can go up with you or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The contractor's planning on replacing major parts of asphalt. So if you got specific areas, we can definitely add that to our list of things we wanna bring up. Okay.

Project isn't even under warranty yet. It looks like we need to walk that whole thing, though, or somebody does.

Yeah. We will. So like I said, the project isn't even under warranty yet, so the city still has to do a final walk through of the whole thing before we sign off on it. K. Alright. Thank you.

Tiffany?

So a few things. From our seed swap, we had leftover seeds. We're gonna start a seed library at the city. So if any of you are planting gardens and need seeds, come check out our seed library. Hopefully, it will be here tomorrow or Monday at the latest. Our front porch group is still moving forward. We're gonna have those events on the second Thursday of every month from ten to noon. What else? I I think it's I I I love the front porch. I I think it's a great thing. It's going well. Good thing for the community. Yeah. So we'd like to encourage everybody to attend, or if you know people that want to attend, spread the word.

We

and then if anybody wants to come well, I guess the whole council can't come, but talks about mountain bike trails in the canyon tomorrow with Neil Etherington. I guess maybe we need a maybe we we should invite someone from the planning commission to attend that meeting. Not a bad idea. Just to have the conversations, and we're gonna establish a bike trail committee. Good. So those are some things we've got going on. And then the safe routes to school are in the process. The middle school has reached out to Dave and I as well. So I don't know why we keep getting roped in, but they want to help. They they

haven't look. We want them to

come here and present. Yeah. I think we'll have that discussion on Monday. Because

it's a Yeah. Budgetary thing, and it takes a council. And then the And I just keep I reminded them they need to they reached out to you. K. Yeah.

So those are kind of the things. Sure. And, hopefully, we'll have the concession stand done soon. I'll get the countertops in and the flooring done, and then it should be ready to go this summer. Oh, and the baseball team has reached out to me and said they would like to have a continued service project that they would like to help us with our fields and do that before they're used for rec ball this summer, help them get them in better shape. So the coaches at the baseball team at Green Canyon are interested in helping improving our fields. It's like we were talking about that. So I think with you Okay. The amount that it cost, we are to just do that. And if they would Yeah. They're willing to come and put some sweat equity in and help us get them improved. So

Excellent. Let's let's let's make it happen.

Stephanie? Yes. I have a couple things. I I came in on what would be Hyde Park's 400 north down by IH, and they've also cut through the road, and there's a real

we know about that. Yep. K. A lot of that asphalt is temporary. They're gonna have to replace it in the spring when the temperature is in Perth.

It was a good good today. Anyway, applications for the Hyde Park scholarship and royalty program are due on Thursday, March 12.

So So

please have Yes. Please people put in. Read the word and and get this scholarship program and it's a good thing. Always say our sponsor.

I I've I've got it approved with the sponsor.

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But so there'll be a $500 scholarship for the Queen. The queen princess, queen Queen. Queen. Queen and her first and second attendant. So we we have sponsors on that, and all that will be forthcoming in the in the pageant. So Yes. That's good. Coming fast. So Nothing's mister world traveler. Not

sure. Just Arizona. Arizona. But that's about it. No. Nothing tonight.

I I have one comment after I listened to Stephanie. I had an individual approach me and and offer some help for our city in any way they wanted to. And it would probably be more in kind that it would be something I think Stephanie would really would use, and I'll make sure I talk to her if it is we contacted her. Fantastic. We Wonderful. Love having

more more resident input, civic input, and that's we're here for a community, not we're just, you know, five council members and the mayor. So we can look at that part. Chief, let's go to you before we go to Marcus. How about that?

Okay. Yeah.

It's been a busy week. This was the week that we had the big snowstorm. That particular day, we the PD handled 28 calls. Most of our calls are average calls for the day, and we're in January from twelve to sixteen maybe ish. So 28 was a high high number for that day. Several of those were accidents. The motor assist, things like that that they were trying to deal with as well. So I pulled the stats for just Hyde Park for this week. On that total, the PD handled a 117 calls. Out of those 117 calls, 18 of those were in Hyde Park and situated in Hyde Park. Out of those 18 calls, 13 of those were priority calls. The calls in the green column on the right are the priority calls, the accidents, the agency assist that required the immediate response, your attempt to locate you had the drug investigation and child abuse investigation criminal mischief medical property damage protective order and we had an unattended death which equates to a 72% priority calls versus non priority calls, which is a huge increase. We've been seeing this steady trend. We've been averaging anywhere from, like, 35 to 42% maybe. And for whatever reason, it's now starting to come up. Out of the 117 calls and those in North Logan, 50% sorry. 57% overall were priority between the two cities on that with 43 non priority type calls. So we're seeing this increase where it's requiring an immediate response with our guys to to get there on that. And like I said, this was an unusual week. Normally, we have a 100, a 105, maybe a 110 calls. We're a little bit higher than that, a 117. But because of the storm and some of that, I think we saw some more with that. Also, when the calls go up, I wanted to point out that the traffic stops go down. So we had 90, traffic stops for the week, 22 citations, and 68 warnings with that on that. So that I didn't get the percentage on that, but you can still still see that that's quite a bit. We're trying to educate more than what we're trying to be heavy handed on that. I think that's the purpose of the stop is to try to change behavior and with that and that's I think representative of what we're doing. I wanted to provide an update on the electric motorcycles. So we've been meeting with the school districts. We've been I've been watching this bill as it goes through the session. It is currently in the third reading with on the senate on that, and they've modified some language to now include and it's being debated. They want to make it so that anybody under 16, it's illegal for them to ride it on the road to operate it on the road, period. That was debatable on whether or not that was gonna happen and they changed that. So they just wanna make that so that's Or through a city park? Yeah. Or through the city park or the sidewalks, things like that. They've still added the, the caveat that the city council, can add rules to that. Like, we don't want the electric motorcycles or the electric bikes on or the mobility assistance devices, I think they're calling them, on the sidewalks. They're still saying that you can add rules to, to increase that or in order to make those restrictions a little bit tougher on that. Do you have a house bill or a senate bill number? I I do. I'm gonna have to look it up real quick and then I will text it to you on that. But if you in fact, I'll forward the link to you and then you can see the language that they're changing. They are also adding the language of hold and release. And so if law enforcement sees a child that they it looks like they're 16, they can stop them, they can hold them, and then the motorcycle can only be released at that point to a parent. And if the parent's not available, then it's subject to impound on that. And so they've added that language to it, and they're debating whether or not they wanna do that. They're still including the safety course requirements on it and they have still they're keeping the change where they're moving to e motorcycle definitions and they're putting it under the current motorcycle definitions in state law. So those things are still in place, but they're they're talking about the compute, these other things with that.

Did you see how well it passed out of second reading?

I didn't. I know there was still some concern about can we do this or not or how do we do that? You're gonna see something pass. There's such a frustration with multiple Every agency, it seems like, in the state that has problems with these, and every city has problems with them. And so you're gonna see something that passes on it.

Marcus, would you make sure we send something? Remind me tomorrow. I'll send something to Cameron Deals that they ought to at least speak to this in LPC?

They did at one of them. And so it was overwhelming. Yeah. We love this bill, so they haven't talked about it because the first LPC, they brought it up, and everybody said, yeah. We want this to pass. K. I So the League of Cities and Towns is fully supported. I was there last week, and I didn't see What was that? The first LPC of the session. So it was back in January. They talked about it, and everybody said Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've gone about And so all the cities and towns are behind it.

On that. There's also some restrictions on that too as far as if they're under a certain age, then the parents have to be right there in direct supervision with them on that. So that's also being looked at on that. But I believe did I forward that information, that bill to you

on that? You forwarded it to me and the mayor before.

Okay. But It should be the same link that I think gets updated with that, but I'll I'll do that again tomorrow Okay. Too with that. I I imagine that you're gonna try and do a great big educational

campaign, right, to hit all the parents. And

There will be. Having come from the school district, I know that there this is a huge problem in the schools with warm weather coming in the next month or so. You're gonna see a huge uptick and a lot of that is tied with your sports programs that are coming up. And I know that the school district they're looking at they don't contract with North Park. They contract with Cache County Sheriff's Office. But I know that they're looking at severely cracking down on allowing those in their parking lots and issuing citations and things like that. So that message, I believe, is going out to the schools and to the parents or from the schools to the parents and to the riders of those, but we haven't seen it just yet on their website. So there's that. Last thing I had tomorrow we're coming up one. I wanted to confirm the time for the training here active shooter training for the city employees and city council. You're welcome to attend that as well if you are interested. That evening or tomorrow evening, I'm also giving a presentation to North Logan in the bottom of their in the basement of their new building there on the same thing, active shooter and safety preparedness, things that people can do. So we're starting to get a lot of presentation requests for that as well as for the sextortion things that we talked about at the mayor meeting on that. So,

yeah, we're busy. Anybody have any more questions for the chief? The attempt to locate vehicle, could they not find them under the snow? I couldn't find them. They were hidden. They were hidden. They're hidden pretty good. Okay. Well, thank you, chief. We appreciate you and the officers and and what they're doing. And and I I like the the idea of changing be changing behaviors versus overwhelming citations. It's we want to Yep. Stop things. So

thank you. That's the goal. You're welcome.

And, Marcus,

do you have anything? I have one item to report. City council, our city attorney has decided to pursue employment elsewhere, and so we are in the search for a new city attorney. We've narrowed it down to a couple of finalists. Both of them have current contracts with the city council, so we don't anticipate having to come back with a new contract. Whichever one we choose, we're just going to end up modifying the current contract to include scope of work for general counsel to the city. So we just wanted to let you know that probably by tomorrow, we're gonna have a new city of Sydney.

What what I'm I the the two currently have contracts. Obviously, it would be Joe Yellowhorse's firm. That is our current attorney, and he's leaving, so it would be a partner within that firm that's down in Provo. And the other firm is with James Jenkins, John. He's been our city attorney before. He's currently our prosecuting attorney, and he he does general counsel for a couple other municipalities in the in the valley. He's very, very good at what he does. And I looked up because I I remember going through this before. In the state code, 10 dash three b dash two zero two, the mayor in the mayor council form of government, the mayor in the municipal operating under this council mayor form of government shall, with the council's advise and consent, qualified person for the following positions. And in there, it says attorney. Although we currently already have one, I just wanna cover that base with you. It's it's could be either one of those that are competent, but I'm looking for advice and consent. And that just means if if you're saying no, speak to me after.

I do have a question. Mhmm. That would impact I mean, there's a contract there. So can I presume that the the budget wouldn't be affected, that whatever we're paying our attorney now would be the same for either of these attorneys in the future, or how does that No? The the fees are gonna have to go up regardless. Our previous attorney, we had a really great deal

with them, and they agreed to let it continue when we changed attorneys, but the fee is gonna have to go up regardless of who we choose. Now the increase can be absorbed into our municipal functions budget while we work on building the budget for next year. And so it's not a significant enough increase we suspect to have to come back to the city council to ask for more money. Okay. So the amount that we budgeted overall for the attorney for the year, there's still plenty left in that budget,

and we don't anticipate we're gonna have to go over that. Okay. Because we had some really good training an hour or so ago that talked about us approving budget ink changes and increases. So Right. It's So, again In case we don't need to be that budget. We anticipate

that our attorney budget is still gonna be on track. The fee's gonna have to go up a little bit, but it's not doubling or anything like that. Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

So if anyone would have partner with either of those firms, please contact me. Marcus is correct. We currently have a contract with them. We and we can just modify that contract, but I wanted to cover it with advice and consent with the council. One last thing, and I think Gerald brought it up. The whole project of this well, the well house, the road, and waterline, public works is out busily trying to ensure that when we have to take Lion's Park tank offline, that they can isolate. So they've been working with all the different valves in the city so we can isolate. They have to take that offline, be able to drill into it too, put in piping and that. So it's it's moving, and we're hoping that that is on target and the parts and components, everything coming in. That's the that's the long pole in the tent of this whole project. So Yeah. Other than that, I have nothing else. So we'll go to the first item there under actions. We appreciate you. Thank you. Is to consider 2026 Dash 3 R Z, an ordinance amending the zoning map for Parcel 04 Dash 037 Dash 0013 from commercial to mixed use. The first thing we'll do is let's identify it. The public hearing was already in planning commission.

Correct.

And I just wanna identify it here for everybody before we and it was good that we had that discussion and had the training session before. If we don't like something, we have to change the code just because we don't like it. Under current codes, what we're looking at Mhmm. Is Sunrise Square and Associates, their parcel. Correct. One thing I would say to the council as you look at this, to mixed use, there is a requirement of a certain amount in of that property percentage to be a minimum tied up into commercial. So

Running the highway. Correct?

Yep. So as a quick summary, the staff report, as you can see in there, the city staff gave a neutral recommendation. There were kind of positives and negatives to the rezone. The planning commission did vote to recommend approval five zero.

So I'll turn it to you, counsel, for the regional request or a motion.

Question. There's a 50 foot easement along Wolfpackway. Is that correct?

I'm just one I guess is I think that may be a mistype because this property, the city ended up acquiring 50 feet of property from them for the road. I don't think there's an actual 50 foot easement encroaching into the property. We that was brought up with the planning commission, and I looked into it briefly. And I'm pretty sure that's a miss mistake. But when they actually submit for a development plan, they're gonna have to submit a survey showing any existing easement, so we'll catch it at at that time if it actually does exist.

Okay. I just wanna make sure that, certainly, they've done their due diligence and would know

that that may or may not impact their their development. I just Yeah. When I heard that number 50 feet, I went, that sounds an awfully lot like the right of way we had to buy for Wolfpack Way. I don't think that's correct. That But

That probably tracks. Okay.

Does in in the old documents that were in there, it speaks about some right of the ways in there, like, 15 foot on either side, 30 foot. Does anybody know what that's

In which document?

It was

Oh, by the way, the applicant is here. If you have specific questions for them, you can definitely call them up. And it's in Yeah. Mayor, it's the 1995

right of way and easement grant.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, I think, where I saw the Don't know what that is referring to.

There it is.

So it appears that that's along the highway. Oh, okay. So construction on the east side It doesn't appear that there's a 50 foot construction easement that was along the highway for the instruction construction of facilities. Of the what? Construction of facilities.

So, I mean, I've seen a perpetual easement, so that'll be 30 feet width. And, I mean, I haven't, you know, done not anything more than just, you know, read the paragraphs here, and I'm thinking, boy, if you lose so many feet out there and depending on what you can put or not put in that easement, and then you add 40% commercial and, you know, that's that's a fairly narrow lot east to west and or north to south. It's long and narrow. And, you know, I just the challenge of developing that parcel in addition to a a a wide easement along the highway. I just I mean, that's not my business. So I'm I'm

those easements, I would just say that the developer would have to be aware of it and as as well as Mikael. She catches this kind of stuff. That's why we've got it in our box. Yeah. So K. Yeah. That was some time ago. Any other questions on this?

Marcus, you mentioned there's pros and cons. What were the cons?

Let me think. Give me one second. So the the staff report goes into it in great detail. Some of the things specifically that the city staff was looking at was perhaps the availability of access to the parcel. UDOT's already kinda told that they wouldn't get any access to the parcel off of the highway Within the parcel boundaries, now there's gonna be cross access. And so it wasn't necessarily a problem. The developer could find a way around it. The city staff just pointed out this is a thing that we are aware of. Additional problems that were identified is there was a concern with the amount of mixed use versus commercial that's being seen along Wolfpack Way. Again, this wasn't, like, a reason to say no, but the city staff just wanted to point out that we've granted a lot of reasons to mixed use along the corridor. There's a question brought up that, is this how we want to keep going as a city? A bigger question was, we are going to be modifying our moderate income housing plan later this year to take out these rezones as a way to comply with that. And that was the reason for granting these rezone some of these rezones in the past. And so that was another question just brought up. Does the city wanna keep granting these rezones even if it's not part of the moderate income housing compliance anymore? And then if you look at the staff report, then the zoning criteria themselves There's pros and cons. The first criteria is if it's harmonious with the existing development around it. The answer was yes. There's already mixed use going on in the area. Question number two is NA. There wasn't any overlay zones that are applicable here. If it's going to adversely affect the adjacent properties, It's not really because, like we said, it's already kind of a commercial use down there. Number four is where there was a yes and no. There was there's availability of utilities. The property doesn't have any water rights that they've presented thus far, and so that just could be a tripping point for them in the future as we require all projects to water rights at this point. So there you go. The DRC, like, it says, wasn't in favor because of those concerns that they had. But from a city staff perspective, meaning Mikhail in doing her analysis, she left it neutral because the problems that the DRC identified was more just things for the council to be aware of as you make the decision.

The the owner slash developer also has a parcel one parcel removed to the north. Correct? A few removed. Would we expect to see similar I I have a guest question for Jake, if that's okay. I mean Jake, do you wanna come up or whoever you've got here?

Just, you know, are we looking at kinda similar things that you've done before? I mean, that just helps me think and going down the road. So to answer Marcus's question, there is this is a strange law, a little bit of a of a more narrow law. So we have been in in discussion with the the property, the Hyde Park Partners. There's a cross access alignment there. And talking to him, we've been asking what his needs would be with the assisted living. There'd be a type of commercial, be more more cohesive with them, meaning there'd be, like, expenses, pharmacy, rehabilitation center, things like that along those lines, a professional plaza type of deal. And there has some there would have some accessibility from those those that assisted living center. And that's our ideas of how to address that, and that's what we're trying to be more sensitive. I've been in in this meeting meetings a lot with you guys. I've seen your faces quite a few times. And I know that a lot of these people coming up asking for rezones and, you know, developments, their focus has been on multifamily. And so as we've been moving forward, we've been not removing from the the residential side, but more focus has been put on the commercial aspect because we know there is an import importance to the city in that in that regard. And so we're putting more of our focus beforehand in a lot of these commercial aspects and getting game plans beforehand on how to address those concerns with the city. Because I've been in a lot of these city meetings where commercial is just a huge importance, obviously, to the city. And so going into these projects, just know that that is important to me as well. Okay. And so we've been in multiple discussions with the city city staff with that in mind as well. So that would be our anticipation, and what we would design this around is around the the the Hyde Park, and we've been talking to Tyler, the the owner, the developer on that land to the south. Okay. And so that's how we try to create some of that cohesiveness there. And then

The the medical facility to the south, they they were gonna have, like, a god, I wanna stay around the roundabout in there where they can turn off and go north. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Because I think you're if I I may be wrong, but I think you're the first or one of the first that's come in since we've changed our mixed use requirements from 25 to 40%. And I can always sit here and think that maybe you're seeing an opportunity with this first, you know, care facility and, you know, that kind of living assisted living in in that area to maybe be able to capitalize on that. So I I think that's

great. Piece. Just like we talked about, you'd have accessibility from the highway might be constrained, but there is some accessibility utilization through those other projects to the south. And that's where we see some advantageous

Okay. Kind of growth there that we can make work. It's because I'm I'm guessing also, Marcus, that just knowing the requirements on Wolfpack Way for access that do you even have access on Wolfpack Way, or is that also north and south of you? No. We have we have access on Wolfpack. I wonder. There there's a there's one there because I know it's about every 300 feet or so as you go up there, and it's kinda hit and miss. And sometimes I think with the engineering firm, we try to have that access point where it would, you know, go into two different parcels. But I'm just so you you do have access Yes. On the east side and then on the south, and then, again,

we just lean your way out to the highway on the other side. The only constraint, like, again, was from you dot getting access from the highway is gonna be near impossible. So we try to redirect how we're gonna access that piece, and I think we found a solution to do that. So

Council, do you have any more questions for Jake?

I have one on the prop is this according to property? Like, certain people own this piece of property and this one, that the rule applies 40%

to the property owner? It it the ones that aren't that are newly applying, those that have already been approved, all under the old plan. Okay? So this is new application for a rezone, and they comply he's got to comply with the current codes.

Yeah. Well and the way that the rezones work is the rezones don't entitle you to anything. They aren't entitled to, like, freezing the codes in place until they submit their first land use application. Right. So That Yeah. Even the ones that have been rezoned, if there wasn't a project proposed on it yet, they still would be subject to the new codes, whatever the codes are, when they put in their application and it's completed.

But but the staff sees no problem with it, and commission was

in favor of it. Correct? I mean, there's problems, but we don't feel like they're insurmountable. Right now. Yeah. And the planning commission voted in favor of five zero. K.

Daryl, you look like you were deep in thought. Oh, I've been

thinking and listening to everything being said. So K.

So what is your intention for the rest of the property multi

The rest would be residential that would fit within that mixed use.

And and what kind of

There'd be townhomes and before sell products in there. You'd see some condos within there as well. A little bit of mix of both. There'd be some a mix of both products in there. And I think the code actually requires that now. You can't just throw in a certain amount. I could be wrong, Martin. I'm wrong, but Yeah. Only 50% of the units can be a townhome. Yeah. So there would be a mix of the types of residential. That's great.

Any more questions or motion? Or

shall we Nope. Well, it said questions or motions.

Or motions, not emotions.

Sir, I move to approve the rezone of Parcel 04 Dash 037 Dash 0013 from commercial to mixed use based on the findings of fact and staff report and conformance with the Hyde Park City land use code, the general plan, and the future land use map.

We've got a motion to approve the rezone request, or I'll just say Sunrise Square. I'll second that motion. And a second from Tiffany. Any additional discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Thank you. The next item is to consider ordinance twenty twenty six dash four, an ordinance revising the land use title, titles twelve and thirteen. Marcus, you wanna give a summary of that before we

Yeah. There's a hearing on that? There's a lot to kinda chew through in this. I'll go through it as fast as I can, then we can answer questions if there's more details. I'm I'm hoping people Yeah. So, hopefully, the council all had a chance to read this ordinance. There are several ordinance updates and fixes in this ordinance. And so the first thing that we're doing is doing a term update in our code anywhere. You see the word survey. We're gonna up that update that to boundary survey with specific things we want to see in the survey. The next thing we're going to do is remove any reference to a conditional use permit for accessory dwelling units. The state is already on their way to making those approved anyway. We don't see a need for it anymore. City staff is just another thing to babysit that we don't it's not necessary. So that's been something that we've been working on for a while, and this is just to clean up that we're removing it from the code completely. The state of Utah changed their code numbering system for everything related to land use. It went from 10 Dash9 a to 10Dash20. So we just gotta go through the whole land use code and change all the nine a's to twenties and then fix the rest of the numbers. So we didn't list all those out here for everybody. We're just letting you know we're gonna change all those state code references. Part of this, we're adopting a new addressing policy and procedure for the city. We're gonna be using the county grid system that you can find on the GIS map from the county. The next item on the agenda is the actual addressing policy that we're going to adopt, but this is just the code update to say that we're going to adopt an addressing policy. The next one, thirteen dot ten dot thirty, we're making it so that the city staff can veto subdivision names with all the repeats that we've had the past few years. We just wanna have the opportunity to, yeah, cut some of those off before they make a mess. The next one the the last two are cleanups and clarifications for the city staff so that we can have a clear process to close out applications or mark them as incomplete and have the applicant start over. That's the short version. What questions do you have? Be before that,

while I was getting that public hearing portion,

can we can we encapsulate them all into We the planning commission already had all the public hearings for all these ordinances last week. And so if the city council's ready to approve them, you can just go through them and and approve them as we as they are presented. And I will say the the public hearings were silent.

Nobody got up and said anything at any public hearings. So It was pretty quiet out on the public hearing portion? Yes.

Do we have to approve each one individually?

No. So this is all one ordinance. K. So you can approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash o four, and that encapsulates all those changes that I just went through. It's important to know all these changes aren't changing the process or procedure or content of the ordinance as much as they are clarifying the process. I guess the one that could be considered really changing is the, the subdivision name Vito, But, almost everything else the one where we're letting we're giving ourselves the power to veto subdivision names. That is a clear change to the process, but all the rest of the changes in here are just clarifications, things that we've talked about, things that we have been working on slowly, and planning on implementing for a while. Now we're just finally they're ready to implement.

No more Cedar. Anything?

Yeah. Yeah. Or Juniper Ridge? No. Juniper Ridge is.

No.

No. Mikhail already is making a list of things that we can't have in our subdivision names anymore because there's too many of them. Alright. So council, where would you want to go on ordinance twenty twenty six dash four,

revising land use titles?

I'm comfortable with these chain clarifications, I guess, is a better word. So I would motion that we approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash o four. Got a motion from TIFTI to approve, a second from was that Kurt?

K. Any additional discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay. The next item is considered ordinance twenty twenty six dash three, an ordinance repealing and replacing minor subdivision code.

So, again, I hope everyone had a chance to read this. The biggest change being proposed here is we are modifying what is defined as a minor subdivision. Before in our code, it was just based on number of lots. Now it's based on number of lots and availability of existing infrastructures. The NICE who came and spoke at the public comment portion, There's is a great example of this. When they presented to the city originally, we had a whole list of things for them to work on and stuff they needed to do to their lots, and then it was determined that the city didn't need that infrastructure in that part of town. And so now under this new code, they would qualify for a minor subdivision. If a lot already has all the adequate infrastructure that it needs, they're just missing maybe a a water meter and a sewer connection, that would be something that would go under a a minor subdivision. It's meant to be a faster process because we don't have to get, you know, full utility plan and everything else. We can just say, yep. Put your meters in. Put your house on. You're good to go.

You can see the track changes and what they've done.

Well, I've I've seen some comments in there. And so my question is, have we addressed some of those comments? Would they be in Interested.

The ones that we have in box have all of the comments in there. Do we have

So the comments are just notes that we made of things that we were looking at. The text itself, we think it's probably okay to go the way it is. A couple of the notes there are just check with the city attorney to make sure we're okay to do stuff.

And and that's my question. Do we approve it if it has not yet been run through the city attorney?

You know what? I never heard back from him. So, technically, I never heard back from the city attorney now that I'm looking at this. I didn't hear back from him yet. So probably not ready to approve this tonight. I apologize. So one of the motions that could be made is to continue this to the next

meeting. I'll make that motion that we continue it. So we got a motion from Stephanie to continue this revision, this ordinance until twenty twenty six dash three, I think I don't have it pulled up again, to our next city council meeting. Is there a second? I'll second it. Got a second from David. Any additional discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay. Next item is to consider adopting the new addressing and row road naming framework. I read through this, and I I I like it, and I think I found in there, it said coordinating with the post office too, didn't it, Mikhail? Okay. We wanna make sure that we just we wanted to be able to give some sort of coordinates east and west even if the road went at an angle, but I just wanna make sure that we don't send a postmaster and hacking tip over or something because of this.

The the benefits mean

EMS EMS being able to try and find something or call it for any Safety issue. Safe it's really a safety. We we don't like to have a road named Lazy Shoe Susan Drive. Right. Where is it and what address is it? So we we like our even if it is Lazy Susan, it's 400 West And 753 North Lazy Susan Drive. So

So this we already had an addressing procedure that we followed for subdivisions. It wasn't great, and we didn't have it written down. And so it we're not really sure if our addressing stayed consistent over time. Yeah. I mean, it we never had any problems with it. The postmaster is always good to reach out and say, hey. I see a problem here, and we fix it. But this is a way to get the procedure written down, get it firm and concrete. And, also, something we're gonna be doing is setting up an addressing committee with postmaster public safety people. So when we have a subdivision that comes in that maybe has a weird road, we can meet with those folks and say, Kate, this doesn't fit with our criteria. How would you like it to be addressed so your the mailman can find it and the ambulance can find it?

And and, Marcus, from what I've understand and read is that this is kind of going forward except for maybe some of those situations where it's not a big inconvenience to change it. Right? It's not gonna be

Yeah. This isn't like when we did the address change on the other side of the highway. This is just gonna be everything moving forward or the subdivisions that have been approved and are still waiting to have addresses assigned. We'll start using this as soon as it's approved. And the one comment right here you can see is the planning commission wanted us to add the word process, and so that's what that comment says is writing the word process. And and the build Oh, go ahead.

Are the police or

fire department? Are they involved in this at all? Or how So we want to when this code gets approved, we're gonna start forming the addressing committee. And Okay. The plan is that we're gonna involve a representative from police, fire department, which also is emergency services, and definitely the postmaster, and probably one or two city employees. But we don't wanna have a huge

committee when this is really a public safety issue. And does this kinda fall on the building department? Is that right?

So the the idea is the addressing procedure and everything, we could assign the address and have it be assigned at the time of building permit, but it wouldn't necessarily be the building department's job to do that. We work with the developer and get their addresses assigned when they do their building permit.

Well, I move that we adopt a new address in a road naming framework.

We got a motion from Stephanie to adopt the new address in your road naming framework. I'll second that motion. The second from Tiffany. Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? I think this is kind of the next step of that naming because the other one is consider a zoning clearance letter processing and code update. It it really kind of codifies the way that we've always wanted to act, but now we put it into a letter so that we we try and cover all those bases. Am I correct? It sometimes we acted right. Sometimes we forgot things, but this is really kind of putting it down so that somebody has a list to go from. And I think that's love lists. Hopefully, you had time to look through it. It's really just taking the things that we have in place and making that checklist for them and putting it out there so that they quit ringing,

Mikhail, what do I have to do? Or somebody else, what do I have to do? Here's your list. That's what you have to do. Yeah. I brought reinforcements for this one tonight if you have questions because I deal with the building permits a ton. So I do have our building official who's here as well as the city planner if you have questions for them about specific process points. But what I can tell you is the zoning clearance letter is meant to be a shortened version of site plan approval. We've got a lot of things in our code that require a site plan. And right now, the site plan requirements are pretty heavy for something even like a single family lot or a business license. And so the zoning clearance letter, the purpose is twofold. Number one, provide an easier avenue for those site plan uses that we don't necessarily need to see the full engineered site plan. We just need to get a grip on what's happening on the property. And number two is we're gonna require for any single family use because then it gives the city an opportunity to gather all I mean, it's the applicant's opportunity to get all the signatures they need. And then when they actually submit for the building permit, they can turn in this letter, and they've already got all the signatures they need, and we can get their building review done really, really fast at that point.

Could you go back, Ian? This would apply to subdivisions and single family resident builds. Or

No. So you can see right here, this is the actual proposed code update. And so it says for any residential use for single family home use, short term rental use, home occupation use, a zoning clearance letter signed by the zoning administrator and approved by the same process as a site plan shall act as the site plan review slash approval. Got theirs. Okay. So, again, this is just for something we don't need, you know, the full engineered utility plan. We just need to know where your parking's going. We need to know where your driveway's at. We need to know that you're not gonna be putting your house too far into the setback or over an easement or something.

And, Darren, you like this?

I do. Okay.

We, Darren, have

Yeah. Or you can sit there and talk about that microphone.

So we have this with other municipalities that we deal with, and it actually streamlines our process when they come into apply for the building permit because they're not waiting for someone else besides the building department. So they've already gone through that. It's approved, and they can move forward. So it some people think that that holds them up, but really it should streamline it. So I am in favor of this. So So, yeah, there's an update to the code, and then I see in here

letters and a clearance checklist, and that would just all be part of Yeah. So that's the supplemental materials. One of the things the planning commission was worried about is we were creating extra steps and just gonna make the process more complicated. So with the the the city council's approving the code update. With the code update, we're also we also have the letter templates ready to go. We have a checklist ready to go. We have all these things ready to go to be deployed with the code update as soon as it's approved. So this is just showing to the planning commission and the city council that this idea is we've been working on it for a while. We, I mean, them. They did all the hard work. I just get it presented to you. They've been working on it for a while. It's fully ready to go. Being unclaimed, Marcus. Yeah. But so, anyway, it's it's ready to go. That's the point of all the extra documents in here is we feel like it's a fully hatched idea and ready to be deployed. And I'm wondering

if those other documents, like the checklist, do they even need to be do they need to be referred to in our code, or is it just is this just something that here's because because we're kinda saying in that checklist, you gotta here's the process you follow. Mhmm. You upload this and you do x, y, and z, but it's not in the code. So Well, the checklist is created from the code. So that's from all the other parts of the code that aren't being updated is this 12Dot10Dot060 slight pan review. That's being updated. The checklist is coming from all the rest of the stuff that already exists. Got it. Perfect. Okay. Thank you.

So, counsel, what would you like to do with the they consider a zoning clearance letter?

I will also say that this this one that's called real site plan submitted for permit, this is just included to show why we need this process. Anyway

Sorry. Oh, so oh god. So that I okay. I wonder what the so this was an actual

Yeah. So this is what the zoning clearance layer is meant to prevent. Sometimes this is not often. This one was egregious, so we put it in here for everyone's enlightenment. This is an example of even less than bare minimum site plan. Like, we just had to kick this one out and be like, no. You you're missing so many things. We're emailing back and forth with the applicant for three days saying, what is this? Can you explain this? Send me a new one. I need this Yeah. Added on there. Loan and clearance means they would turn this into Mikael. She would say, nope. You here's your checklist. Give it back when it the checklist is done. And they got a clear way to fill it out, easy checklist, turn everything back in. We all sign off, then they submit for building permit. Heck, they get their building permit three days later. Easy.

Sounds like a great thing. Yes. It does. So So I I are we ready to make a motion on this? Sure. Sure. I'll make a motion that we approve.

Let's see. No. The zoning clearance letter. Letter?

Yeah. Zoning clearance letter.

Is that And checklist? Or is it I don't see. Or is it the site license to your zoning

clearance doc? Yeah. What do you want to do? Oh, I'm looking on the wrong agenda. Okay.

So go ahead. No. Go ahead. You're I was just like, oh, I'll second it. Well, I'll second with Gerald's proposal to approve the zoning zoning So letter slash checklist. Letter and code update. Process and clearances. And code update. That's what we're trying to say. So we got a motion from Gerald And I'll second

to consider zoning clearance letter process and code update and the second from Tiffany. That's correct? Any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion carried again. The next one is to consider a resolution, 2026 dash o three. It's a resolution accepting a petition for annexation of certain real property under the provisions of 10 dash two dash eight zero three and ten dash two dash eight zero four of Utah code twenty twenty five as amended.

Okay. I will, I will join in here. This is the exact same resolution you passed last time. It was done within thirteen days, and it needed to be fourteen days. So just to be safe, we're doing this again. It's a really big annexation, so we need to make sure everything is done exact. So we're just doing this again to meet the after fourteen days heads up. Council is

and knowing on this, this is what we call back 40. Project back 40.

Thank you for that clarification. That explains

a couple things we talked about. Yeah. And the process is is we have to approve a resolution first, and then it goes to the county. And they say, gosh. Did the city approve that they were willing to consider this? And then the county has a certain number of days to say, yes. We're permitting that to go out of unincorporated county into a municipality. Once they approve it, then it'll come back to the city for final annexation.

In that

amount of time she's talking about? No. No. No. The county county doesn't do anything at the speed of government. No. The whole annexation process

takes at least three months.

Yeah. Yeah. At least.

Well, I think I made the motion last time, so I'll make it again. Make a motion that we accept the resolution accepting a petition for annexation of sections o 10 Dash 2 Dash 803 And 10 Dash 2 Dash 804.

I'll I'll second that, that we accept resolution twenty twenty six dash zero three. So we've got a motion to approve resolution twenty twenty six zero three by Stephanie and a second from David.

Any discussion? Do we need to say anything in there that that supersedes the previous?

No. It'll it'll it'll the other one's in record. It just didn't have the right time frame on it. So this will be

up update. That's my concern. Okay.

All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay? Motion carried. The next item is priority, and budget workshop session.

Alright. I failed in my responsibilities last time because Donya wasn't here to remind me. Just kidding. So we need to set a date for our annual budget workshops. When I talked about this with city council Hey, Kelly. Previously, it was brought up that maybe we need to have two separate workshops, one to discuss priority and long term goals of the city, and the other one to actually talk budget. And so I just wanted to pull calendar and find some days where we could do some workshops. Honestly, if we get a good vision and priority session, the budget workshop can be much shorter.

I thought we were gonna work with maybe with the last city council meeting of every month on workshops, but maybe that doesn't fit into the time constraint on the budget workshop. No. To do a good visioning

a true vision workshop that we'll call it, we're gonna need some time because it's going through, like, every piece of the general plan and saying, what is the priority? What do we wanna accomplish this year? What is gonna wait till next year? I mean, we really need to start picking it apart at that level. And so the proposal that I have is basically instead of doing an eight hour budget workshop, let's do an eight hour planning and vision workshop, and then we can do, like, a one or two hour budget workshop for us to you know? John, you'll send you the budget with plenty of time ahead so you can read through it. And then the budget workshop can just be answering questions about the budget, going over specific line items if you have them. But we can spend the bulk of our time doing council's job like we talked about at the work session tonight and looking towards the future and figuring out what do we wanna accomplish in this next year.

I I would recommend that we start with that list of things that we put down as city goals. Some of those things would be applicable in there. Some of the reports, ouch, from public works and such, wouldn't necessarily be there. But Mhmm. Codes,

updating certain codes, and things like that. Right. And it probably would be good to have the planning commission come to part or all of that visioning workshop too. So, typically, we look at midweek March to do the work session. I think last year, we did it in one of the teen days of March. For those of you who have jobs outside of city council, I guess I'm looking at you first. When would you be available? You know what? I'm even willing to come in on a weekend if that's what it takes.

Yeah. But I'm not sure anybody else is.

I'm just saying, if I gotta come in on a Friday or Saturday I don't know about Sunday. That Sunday's my day. Oh, my Friday is the weekdays. I could do a Monday the sixteenth.

I don't know what everybody else's schedule looks like. I'm just Two, four. You and the A Wednesday, the eighteenth. Well yeah. A Wednesday, the eighteenth.

I couldn't do the sixteenth.

I'm good I'm good on the eighteenth. I'm good the week. I mean, yeah, hit and miss. I've got appointments, but if I here and there, but and other things. But with a couple weeks notice, I can change things, but I'm good with the eighteenth, that Wednesday.

You You have city council that night too? You've got No. That's a third. That's a third. So it's not a I think the mayor may be unavailable on the sixth time and the eighteenth. What day are we talking to?

Wednesday, the eighteenth. Are you up to March.

I see appointments on your calendar, mayor. I don't think you're gonna be available that day. No. It's You didn't? It's not then the fifth mayor? We're the June 9. We could do the ninth. Not on The mayor has other appointments on that day that, like, he probably can't miss. That that

that is I'm looking at the one that you're talking about. I think that one goes away because you see it on the sixteenth as well. Yeah. Well, you also have another appointment on the eighteenth in the afternoon. It's Thursday. Oh. Oh. Oh. Would you be done by then? That's a big one. We probably won't be done by then. And if that's the best date for everybody, that's okay. That's

What about Thursday, the nineteenth? I'm good. I'm a good on Thursday, the nineteenth.

I can't the week before, I have stuff like almost every day. I could do any of those Sundays. I don't know if you wanna put shit later in March

or if the first It's up to you. We have to have the first draft of the budget done by Yep. So So we would like to have this meeting mid April so that, Donnie, you can have time to actually finalize the first round of the budget.

Because this meeting is we're kinda talking the most of the day so that we can come in again and spend a couple hours probably actually doing the budgeting part. And you wanna do the budgeting part no later than?

I think I did in March. Okay. Yeah. We have to have a preliminary advisory that way. Well, and we can sit down as staff people during regular office hours and start putting together numbers. We don't necessarily need the city council.

You know Right. Right. But we should shoot to try to have this workshop no later than that week of the sixteenth through twentieth so that we can come back in the following week on an afternoon or whatever is good for Gerald and

Tiffany and Yeah. Is the nineteenth a day everyone's looking at then?

I mean, I'm available that day. Thursday nineteenth? I'd work for maybe seven for you. Yeah. I'll just take the day off.

Stephanie, did you have are you available that day? I am until 02:30. K. Kirk, are you available that day? We can try our darnedest to get through all the the big important stuff

before 02:30 or if we can get a good day. Thick, Stephanie. We can get a good eight hours in before you have to leave. Let move. Carol, we can be halfway done before he has to even go to work that day. We start, you know, early enough in the morning. Yeah. There you go.

What about, like, the twenty third on Monday

or

the thirtieth? Well, we have to have budgeting before the March.

Is the March to like, Monday the second?

Is that too soon? I got my teeth cleaning that week.

That that week that that March?

They're cleaning up one tooth a day.

One tooth I actually do have a dentist appointment. I was very probably watching.

Or the week after that then, ninth through thirteenth? I did. No. That was your week that you Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. How about on the fifth?

My ears The fifth I'll be part of our I have a meeting that day too. You will.

You know? Maybe. If you get your spell there. I'm not sure. I'd wanna go We'll see. Go with you. I'll send you a picture. You know, I don't wanna I don't wanna suggest here to Friday. I hate to suggest Friday the twentieth for our staff. But Dania,

Rulinda is in Puerto Vallarta right now. Yes. They're they're for me.

Yeah. The fun part about Hopefully visioning is no offense to any of the staff, but they don't necessarily need to be here. That can Well, I a lot of that can be run through me, and it can be taken back to them. But I consider you we we were we're taking away your your Friday. Maybe Well, I'll just take a different day off that week. It's fine. I can shuffle things around too. Is is that better?

The twentieth and the nineteenth?

I I can do that if you guys want to. The twentieth, there's the royalty pageant that night in here.

So maybe not that day? I could do probably any day, sixteenth through the twentieth. The sixteenth?

What do you wanna do now? Just tell me what you wanna do. Stay. I'll make it work.

Are you getting any teeth cleaned on the sixteenth, Brian?

No. I just have any commitment for one hour Oh. That day for K. So that That'll work. That'll work. Because with the sixteenth I can come before and take off and go do the my arm and come back. K. K. I I can't do it the sixteenth. But So let's do the seventeenth? The seventeenth is Saint Patrick's Day. Everybody wear green? Yep.

Mayor, you may have something at 4PM

on the seventeenth. But can we do it until 03:30?

Yeah. That's a good stretch. Right? That's cool. Yeah. That one I is and I should put it in there. That's in Salt Lake.

So you may have to be done by 02:30 if we do it on the seventeenth.

But how long do you want it to be?

Well, it's really how long do you want it to be? Because, really, we need to go through all aspects of what's happening at the city and make sure the city council's okay with the directions that we're going. This could be as short or as long as you want it to be. If Like, nine until two? Judging how our previous two years have gone, we're probably gonna need all day. I mean, we just just recognize that some people may have to come and go. I'm supposed to be

somewhere with the chamber that day for lunch, and then I gotta run down to Salt Lake. But

Well, what food are they giving you? We'll give you something better. Be flexible and then Are we talking to seventeen?

Yeah.

I would be I have a dermatologist department, but I can go and come. Yeah. And it's So it's with nineteenth. We were looking at nineteenth. Yeah. Nineteenth?

If we could I mean, based on

what we did or didn't do in our workshop over forty minutes, which was have a conversation and not really establish much or come up with a, let's move forward with x y z. I think this may take some time as we sit and have conversations. I don't think it's gonna be a I move with nineteen. The nineteenth? Yeah. I think that looks,

yeah, better for me. Because it'll be down. Yeah. Nineteenth. Nineteenth. We could do a longer stretch on the nineteenth. Thursday. Okay. So that would be great. Sleep bowl. No. We're not not staying here.

K. So we will put on the nineteenth, Dania's gonna send out a calendar invite to everybody just from about 8AM

till four. Day four. Eight.

Block it out. Yesterday.

Eight. 08:00? Just last year, I came at nine. And I was like, oh. We're starting at eight. For the benefit of some, there's two eight o'clocks on the on the There is. No. Two eights. Yeah. There's there's one that's

At nine. What I mean?

There's one before that.

And we're saying, like, eight to five? Eight to eight to four? I'll have Dania block out eight to four.

Hopefully, we're shorter than that, but I think Dave's right. We spent forty five minutes talking about the general plan tonight and didn't make a ton of headway. And that was just one chapter, and really we gotta get through

Let me do. Kinda all of it. Something. Alright. So we got that done. Let's continue. The last item on our agenda, council, is to have a closed session of which we can all have closed sessions for one for one of four things, or we'd have it for all four, but this one happens to just be for purchase or sale of real property. And to do that, we would need a motion to go into closed session.

I'll make a motion.

Got a motion from Kirk to go into closed session. There's a second. I'll second it. Got a second from David. In the discussion, All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed with nay?

Alright. For the benefit of the livestream, we will be ending the livestream now. After the closed session is over, we'll be entering back into regular session Only briefly.