RAPZ / Restaurant Tax Board Meeting 08-26-2026
2026-08-26
Contacts, board meeting this 08/26/2026. We I'll accept a motion to approve this agenda we have for the for today's meeting.
Contacts, board meeting this 08/26/2026. We I'll accept a motion to approve this agenda we have for the for today's meeting.
Move to approve the agenda. I'll second that. Yeah. Any discussion?
Move to approve the agenda. I'll second that. Yeah. Any discussion?
Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No? We have no minutes that we're going to approve. We'll have items of business. We have election of a board chair.
Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No? We have no minutes that we're going to approve. We'll have items of business. We have election of a board chair.
Any nominations for board chair? So I need to make a clarification. In the code, the board chair has to be one of the two, council members.
Any nominations for board chair? So I need to make a clarification. In the code, the board chair has to be one of the two, council members.
So that kind of limits I nominate Catherine Butte.
So that kind of limits I nominate Catherine Butte.
I was gonna say you're doing a really great job. Okay. We have a nomination. Is there a second? I move that Catherine view that nomination cease and that Catherine be put in by oh, we got a second to make sure. Just a second. Okay. Catherine be put in by acclamation.
I was gonna say you're doing a really great job. Okay. We have a nomination. Is there a second? I move that Catherine view that nomination cease and that Catherine be put in by oh, we got a second to make sure. Just a second. Okay. Catherine be put in by acclamation.
All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you very much. I humbly accept your
All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you very much. I humbly accept your
I'm not who would you think you would.
I'm not who would you think you would.
Your nomination. Okay. Moving right along. As everyone knows, we have had an update to county code. We had some things that weren't quite in in sync with state code. And and then we, additionally went and made a few changes, that the council, felt were needed. So I am going to turn the time time over to Alma who will bring us up to date with what changes have been made that will affect this board this committee. Okay.
Your nomination. Okay. Moving right along. As everyone knows, we have had an update to county code. We had some things that weren't quite in in sync with state code. And and then we, additionally went and made a few changes, that the council, felt were needed. So I am going to turn the time time over to Alma who will bring us up to date with what changes have been made that will affect this board this committee. Okay.
So I I promised you a very short meeting, and so I created a handout. It's very brief there. I will just go because of the recording, I will just go through it. And if you have questions, we can discuss it. So these are the the main changes in the code. And as soon as I get the, official code, I will send that out to you so that you can can look through it. So because of changes in the past, the administrator, which is myself, needs to be assigned under the county auditor, which is in the finance office. Another thing that need to be clarified is this now a seven member advisory board and it is appointed by the county council. There will be term limits. Those term limits will begin with the new appointments in January 2026 or '27, sorry. Those term limits will be two years. So you've been appointed for one year. When they are up at the end of the year, we'll go through the process. The council will go through the process and appoint additional new members. And starting with in January '27, then they won't be a two year term at that point. Another thing that they changed was the advisory board needs a council chair or a chair, and that needs to be, which you just took place, that comes from one of the the elected council members. Mandates, this is one thing that needed to be clarified if there needs to be a disclosure or recruisal of an advisory board member because you are affiliated with an organization. I think that's already happening. Different people will say, I belong to this organization or I'm associated with it. It says in code that it needs to be in writing. So as you get the applications the next time around, if there is something then then you'll need to send me something
So I I promised you a very short meeting, and so I created a handout. It's very brief there. I will just go because of the recording, I will just go through it. And if you have questions, we can discuss it. So these are the the main changes in the code. And as soon as I get the, official code, I will send that out to you so that you can can look through it. So because of changes in the past, the administrator, which is myself, needs to be assigned under the county auditor, which is in the finance office. Another thing that need to be clarified is this now a seven member advisory board and it is appointed by the county council. There will be term limits. Those term limits will begin with the new appointments in January 2026 or '27, sorry. Those term limits will be two years. So you've been appointed for one year. When they are up at the end of the year, we'll go through the process. The council will go through the process and appoint additional new members. And starting with in January '27, then they won't be a two year term at that point. Another thing that they changed was the advisory board needs a council chair or a chair, and that needs to be, which you just took place, that comes from one of the the elected council members. Mandates, this is one thing that needed to be clarified if there needs to be a disclosure or recruisal of an advisory board member because you are affiliated with an organization. I think that's already happening. Different people will say, I belong to this organization or I'm associated with it. It says in code that it needs to be in writing. So as you get the applications the next time around, if there is something then then you'll need to send me something
so that we can kinda does that need to be? What's that? How formal does that need to be? I just It could be one sentence either. Just send an email. I'm associated
so that we can kinda does that need to be? What's that? How formal does that need to be? I just It could be one sentence either. Just send an email. I'm associated
with and I'll I'll use Cathy if you don't mind. That's fine. You you belong to the community Cash Community Band. Mhmm. You've said that in the past in during the meeting. It's recorded, but you just need to would would need to send me an email and say I'm associated with x. I'm I'm not gonna be part of the voting or part of the the voting. You can't vote on it to recommend it, but in code, it does say that you can still score it, and you can still have the discussion. You just can't vote.
with and I'll I'll use Cathy if you don't mind. That's fine. You you belong to the community Cash Community Band. Mhmm. You've said that in the past in during the meeting. It's recorded, but you just need to would would need to send me an email and say I'm associated with x. I'm I'm not gonna be part of the voting or part of the the voting. You can't vote on it to recommend it, but in code, it does say that you can still score it, and you can still have the discussion. You just can't vote.
And that will be clarified. And I that has happened so many it's really neat because it is Bruce, you You've announced, hey. Yes. This is what I'm doing. And it's as we talk about certain things, it's been really neat that we just we bring that up, and it's just lay it out there. And it really turns the tone down on everything or
And that will be clarified. And I that has happened so many it's really neat because it is Bruce, you You've announced, hey. Yes. This is what I'm doing. And it's as we talk about certain things, it's been really neat that we just we bring that up, and it's just lay it out there. And it really turns the tone down on everything or
then when people talk. Right. It's already been disclosed. That's neat. And it's already happening. We just need it in writing. Yeah. Writing. K. So out of cycle request, and that's what we're taking care of today. They in code, they will need the if there is an out of cycle request, they will need to submit a paper application, and I'm gonna kinda work on that, as to what because in the code, it asks certain questions. The applicant would need to submit that to me as the as the administrator of this program. Then it will be presented to the council. The council will then either approve or deny it. If it's approved, then they will convene this board. And so in the past, we've met once a year. In the future, we may meet more often like this meeting. I hope not to.
then when people talk. Right. It's already been disclosed. That's neat. And it's already happening. We just need it in writing. Yeah. Writing. K. So out of cycle request, and that's what we're taking care of today. They in code, they will need the if there is an out of cycle request, they will need to submit a paper application, and I'm gonna kinda work on that, as to what because in the code, it asks certain questions. The applicant would need to submit that to me as the as the administrator of this program. Then it will be presented to the council. The council will then either approve or deny it. If it's approved, then they will convene this board. And so in the past, we've met once a year. In the future, we may meet more often like this meeting. I hope not to.
We do not want this to be a habit. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's In any way. So emergency things only. So Yeah. And and it will come to
We do not want this to be a habit. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's In any way. So emergency things only. So Yeah. And and it will come to
our office, and we will discuss it, and then it will be presented to the council. And then if they do approve it, then we'll need to reconvene this this board. Some other things on clarification, I'll just go through these really quick. There's been some questions in the past about indirect costs, administrative overhead, and facilities expenses. These have been banned, in the code. We have had this deadline. You've probably maybe been aware of it, but when it's approved by the council, from the time it's approved, so the the applications that were approved by the council or the awards that were approved by the council this year were approved in May 2026, and they expire or need to be paid out. And, you know, the project completed by December '28, that's thirty one and a half months. We just needed to clarify that in code. Another thing that was added is airport facilities are authorized in the state code and that was added to the county code. Some extensions have taken place in the past. This is one of the requests from the council that the the code needed to be revised, and it was extensions from an applicant need to be submitted to the administrator myself through the finance office in writing ninety days prior to that, you know, deadline. Is it germane? And then it will go to the council for approval. It prohibits informal changes and requires a formal scope of change request, and that needs to be reviewed by the board and sent to the council. There's a schedule, and I will send this and clarify, but in the past right now, they the applicant or the awardees will submit a financial report. That's how they re request their reimbursement request. But we're also implementing activity reports, and they will be need to be submitted on a I will needs to be submitted. And a final report will need to be submitted also. There's been a logo as long as I've worked here, and I think as long as this program has been in effect, but there's been questions about it. And so the, council just wanted to clarify that. So in code, there is a a board logo, a logo of the wraps and restaurant program, and it needs to be attributed to the project or on marketing materials or programs and stuff like that. We're just clarifying that in code. Did I miss anything? Questions.
our office, and we will discuss it, and then it will be presented to the council. And then if they do approve it, then we'll need to reconvene this this board. Some other things on clarification, I'll just go through these really quick. There's been some questions in the past about indirect costs, administrative overhead, and facilities expenses. These have been banned, in the code. We have had this deadline. You've probably maybe been aware of it, but when it's approved by the council, from the time it's approved, so the the applications that were approved by the council or the awards that were approved by the council this year were approved in May 2026, and they expire or need to be paid out. And, you know, the project completed by December '28, that's thirty one and a half months. We just needed to clarify that in code. Another thing that was added is airport facilities are authorized in the state code and that was added to the county code. Some extensions have taken place in the past. This is one of the requests from the council that the the code needed to be revised, and it was extensions from an applicant need to be submitted to the administrator myself through the finance office in writing ninety days prior to that, you know, deadline. Is it germane? And then it will go to the council for approval. It prohibits informal changes and requires a formal scope of change request, and that needs to be reviewed by the board and sent to the council. There's a schedule, and I will send this and clarify, but in the past right now, they the applicant or the awardees will submit a financial report. That's how they re request their reimbursement request. But we're also implementing activity reports, and they will be need to be submitted on a I will needs to be submitted. And a final report will need to be submitted also. There's been a logo as long as I've worked here, and I think as long as this program has been in effect, but there's been questions about it. And so the, council just wanted to clarify that. So in code, there is a a board logo, a logo of the wraps and restaurant program, and it needs to be attributed to the project or on marketing materials or programs and stuff like that. We're just clarifying that in code. Did I miss anything? Questions.
We'll back up to the middle. K. Bands using grant funds for indirect costs and administrative overhead or facilities expenses. I don't understand that. For example, we give a big chunk to the zoo. Is that not used for administrative overhead?
We'll back up to the middle. K. Bands using grant funds for indirect costs and administrative overhead or facilities expenses. I don't understand that. For example, we give a big chunk to the zoo. Is that not used for administrative overhead?
And yes. And And so that we've been in violation. I think I think we need to clarify this now that you've mentioned that and brought that, and I was thinking about that last night. This request was because of Utah State University. They have what's called FNA, which is facilities administrative costs. And we want the costs to go, at least the council and the the discussions that had with the ordinance and policy is they want the cost or the expenses, the the award to go to the project. And, yes, there is kind of a a conflict there. So I think we need to I need to Yeah. That needs to be put in. In. Yeah. Yeah. We need to review that one. Yeah. And and not just the zoo. I'm thinking of Right. There's a lot of them. When they say facilities
And yes. And And so that we've been in violation. I think I think we need to clarify this now that you've mentioned that and brought that, and I was thinking about that last night. This request was because of Utah State University. They have what's called FNA, which is facilities administrative costs. And we want the costs to go, at least the council and the the discussions that had with the ordinance and policy is they want the cost or the expenses, the the award to go to the project. And, yes, there is kind of a a conflict there. So I think we need to I need to Yeah. That needs to be put in. In. Yeah. Yeah. We need to review that one. Yeah. And and not just the zoo. I'm thinking of Right. There's a lot of them. When they say facilities
expense Yes. The facilities expense could be the project. A lot of these are going because you know, we're they're upgrading and all these things. We need to we need to there needs to be some detail with that. Yep. And I I think it needs to go like indirect costs, and we need to clarify that a little more. Zero in on that.
expense Yes. The facilities expense could be the project. A lot of these are going because you know, we're they're upgrading and all these things. We need to we need to there needs to be some detail with that. Yep. And I I think it needs to go like indirect costs, and we need to clarify that a little more. Zero in on that.
Good point. That's gonna require a lot an application, I think,
Good point. That's gonna require a lot an application, I think,
in many cases. We'll clean that up on the council end because I think that we did not make that clear of our intent. We gotta get some deep the right kind of detail in that one. I don't think it's
in many cases. We'll clean that up on the council end because I think that we did not make that clear of our intent. We gotta get some deep the right kind of detail in that one. I don't think it's
it's too it's too broad. It almost covers everything about about a property. About yeah.
it's too it's too broad. It almost covers everything about about a property. About yeah.
And did you mention the forfeiture of any remaining funds?
And did you mention the forfeiture of any remaining funds?
I didn't. Okay. No. And there was some all of the awards are reimbursement requests. They have to submit something to me. And so do you wanna speak to that? Yeah.
I didn't. Okay. No. And there was some all of the awards are reimbursement requests. They have to submit something to me. And so do you wanna speak to that? Yeah.
One of the things that we had mentioned as a council is that after they submit any reimbursement, if there's any remaining funds, it's forfeited and goes back into the available
One of the things that we had mentioned as a council is that after they submit any reimbursement, if there's any remaining funds, it's forfeited and goes back into the available
RAPS funding. Correct. So Yeah. And that was already happening. That is happening. Mhmm. We just need to clarify Yeah. We just wanted to clarify it
RAPS funding. Correct. So Yeah. And that was already happening. That is happening. Mhmm. We just need to clarify Yeah. We just wanted to clarify it
No. No. And, yeah, the the logo is cool and all, but we could change it to look cooler. That's not official. But yeah. Upgrade. Yeah. Thank you, Alma. Yes. Thank you. I think there is some cleanup that we need to do. When I read that, I I don't think that was our intent as a council. No. So I need to help give better guidance on on what our intent was on that. Okay.
No. No. And, yeah, the the logo is cool and all, but we could change it to look cooler. That's not official. But yeah. Upgrade. Yeah. Thank you, Alma. Yes. Thank you. I think there is some cleanup that we need to do. When I read that, I I don't think that was our intent as a council. No. So I need to help give better guidance on on what our intent was on that. Okay.
We are moving on to item six. This thing on the back What is this on the back? So that one on the back relates to the discussion of a phone call that I received in that. We'll have that later on the agenda. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So and I can explain that a little more. K. Item number six,
We are moving on to item six. This thing on the back What is this on the back? So that one on the back relates to the discussion of a phone call that I received in that. We'll have that later on the agenda. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So and I can explain that a little more. K. Item number six,
we're going to move on to the, oh, the discussion for the out of cycle application requests. We we'll start with we'll do an alphabetical order. We'll We'll go ahead and do the American West Heritage Center. K. Thank you.
we're going to move on to the, oh, the discussion for the out of cycle application requests. We we'll start with we'll do an alphabetical order. We'll We'll go ahead and do the American West Heritage Center. K. Thank you.
So the American West Heritage Center, let me see if I can explain this really quickly so that it's understandable to you. So in 2025, there was an application submitted to this board through the normal application process for the tractor barn. That was recommended by this board to the council of a 100 and they requested 250,000, and you recommended a 125,000. That was in May 2025. The council approved that of a 125,000. Then in August 2025, the American West Heritage Center, they were intending to apply the next year, but because of some circumstances, the construction was beginning. They submitted a request last fall in August 2025 to the council, and the council reviewed that and approved another 125,000 to go to the American West Heritage Center. It wasn't until recently
So the American West Heritage Center, let me see if I can explain this really quickly so that it's understandable to you. So in 2025, there was an application submitted to this board through the normal application process for the tractor barn. That was recommended by this board to the council of a 100 and they requested 250,000, and you recommended a 125,000. That was in May 2025. The council approved that of a 125,000. Then in August 2025, the American West Heritage Center, they were intending to apply the next year, but because of some circumstances, the construction was beginning. They submitted a request last fall in August 2025 to the council, and the council reviewed that and approved another 125,000 to go to the American West Heritage Center. It wasn't until recently
that the finance office and myself Explain also the reasoning was that because of a a big donation match that was also going to occur if they could get it done sooner and the shipping, the building, everything would have been they just saved a lot of money on that. It was a dollar for dollar match. Was that a dollar for dollar match? Dollar for dollar match, and they were combining the shipping costs with the other project.
that the finance office and myself Explain also the reasoning was that because of a a big donation match that was also going to occur if they could get it done sooner and the shipping, the building, everything would have been they just saved a lot of money on that. It was a dollar for dollar match. Was that a dollar for dollar match? Dollar for dollar match, and they were combining the shipping costs with the other project.
Correct. And and so the council approved that the end of August, 125,000. Then recently, I've had some conversations with folks at the American West Heritage Center and some others on the board, and I became aware that this was requested, And we nailed it down, found the minutes and everything. The council remembered, but we nailed it down. But it had never been put in the budget, and so it was it was just kinda missed. It was missed. In the ether? Yes. Yes. It was lost. And so it's become aware, but the re the code was reviewed by the county attorney, and the code as written did not allow that, and so some changes needed to be done. And so the county council, the ordinance and policy committee reviewed that. It was revised and went through the process and it was approved last night by the council, the new code allowing for this. And so this is kind of retroactive.
Correct. And and so the council approved that the end of August, 125,000. Then recently, I've had some conversations with folks at the American West Heritage Center and some others on the board, and I became aware that this was requested, And we nailed it down, found the minutes and everything. The council remembered, but we nailed it down. But it had never been put in the budget, and so it was it was just kinda missed. It was missed. In the ether? Yes. Yes. It was lost. And so it's become aware, but the re the code was reviewed by the county attorney, and the code as written did not allow that, and so some changes needed to be done. And so the county council, the ordinance and policy committee reviewed that. It was revised and went through the process and it was approved last night by the council, the new code allowing for this. And so this is kind of retroactive.
Laws and the information that we were given a couple of months ago when we met originally, were both of those 125,000 grants included in the information that we would get? Just If they because if they were not, I don't know if I would have given them as much this year. I think we're going back more than that time. You think it's back further? 25 is approved in the spring of twenty five Mhmm. With the idea that the other 125 would be approved in the spring of twenty twenty six. Correct. So did they get that interim disbursement and then make another request in the spring of twenty twenty six? No.
Laws and the information that we were given a couple of months ago when we met originally, were both of those 125,000 grants included in the information that we would get? Just If they because if they were not, I don't know if I would have given them as much this year. I think we're going back more than that time. You think it's back further? 25 is approved in the spring of twenty five Mhmm. With the idea that the other 125 would be approved in the spring of twenty twenty six. Correct. So did they get that interim disbursement and then make another request in the spring of twenty twenty six? No.
No. No. No. No. They did not. The the money from this year was not for
No. No. No. No. They did not. The the money from this year was not for
the the application process. They got the 125 through 2025. Correct. They did not apply for the other 125
the the application process. They got the 125 through 2025. Correct. They did not apply for the other 125
for 2020 in 2026. I know. But because they didn't apply, did they apply for more
for 2020 in 2026. I know. But because they didn't apply, did they apply for more
that we would not have given if we give them that No. I I'm on report. Can I We well, we talked about that too in in that meeting? I remember in our reps' meeting, we talked about that. You know, they we mentioned that they weren't gonna apply, and they did not. I don't think there was any other buildings facilities request because they knew that they had this other request because they knew that they had this other 125, and they said that they would not apply for any more than what they normally had applied for with the all of the other events and everything that were going on. I just I remember that we had that discussion within the wraps That's correct. Committee meeting too. See,
that we would not have given if we give them that No. I I'm on report. Can I We well, we talked about that too in in that meeting? I remember in our reps' meeting, we talked about that. You know, they we mentioned that they weren't gonna apply, and they did not. I don't think there was any other buildings facilities request because they knew that they had this other request because they knew that they had this other 125, and they said that they would not apply for any more than what they normally had applied for with the all of the other events and everything that were going on. I just I remember that we had that discussion within the wraps That's correct. Committee meeting too. See,
here's another going back to this ban, they're they usually make a request for overhead and indirect and administrative
here's another going back to this ban, they're they usually make a request for overhead and indirect and administrative
expenses. Right. Yep. And
expenses. Right. Yep. And
Our income. We've got a problem. Yes. We need to clarify that. So does that make sense? They applied in '25, were awarded the hundred and twenty five. They intended to apply in '26, but because of the match, construction, everything, it was moved up and so they took a request directly to the council. The council approved the hundred and twenty five. We were not aware of that 125. And so kind of in answer to your question, Bruce, the 100 the original first 125 was accounted for when you got the documentation for the application process in '26,
Our income. We've got a problem. Yes. We need to clarify that. So does that make sense? They applied in '25, were awarded the hundred and twenty five. They intended to apply in '26, but because of the match, construction, everything, it was moved up and so they took a request directly to the council. The council approved the hundred and twenty five. We were not aware of that 125. And so kind of in answer to your question, Bruce, the 100 the original first 125 was accounted for when you got the documentation for the application process in '26,
but we didn't know about the hundred and twenty five. So wouldn't the application only be for a hundred and twenty five then instead of $2.50?
but we didn't know about the hundred and twenty five. So wouldn't the application only be for a hundred and twenty five then instead of $2.50?
Oh, I I thought it says that amount request is $2.50.
Oh, I I thought it says that amount request is $2.50.
I think I think originally, they this is their original documents, and and we gave them from next year. They applied for the full amount, the one year. And
I think I think originally, they this is their original documents, and and we gave them from next year. They applied for the full amount, the one year. And
and I even I spoke with them too and says, hey. Break that up into two years. Mhmm. You know, just so that we can, you know, work through this. And Oh, I see the data. And so they asked for the $2.50. And then in our discussions, we also gave them that advice saying, hey. Let's give them half now, and then go through the cycle and the half next year. But this other opportunity came up with what this board left behind for us to work with, and the dollar to dollar match. It just it was a really good deal for us to go ahead and give that other 125,
and I even I spoke with them too and says, hey. Break that up into two years. Mhmm. You know, just so that we can, you know, work through this. And Oh, I see the data. And so they asked for the $2.50. And then in our discussions, we also gave them that advice saying, hey. Let's give them half now, and then go through the cycle and the half next year. But this other opportunity came up with what this board left behind for us to work with, and the dollar to dollar match. It just it was a really good deal for us to go ahead and give that other 125,
faster. Yes. Okay. So the amount in question today is $1.25.
faster. Yes. Okay. So the amount in question today is $1.25.
Yeah. Correct. Because that's what the council approved. That's what we approved.
Yeah. Correct. Because that's what the council approved. That's what we approved.
Under retroactive approval because it's already been dispersed.
Under retroactive approval because it's already been dispersed.
It's not it's not been dispersed. It was requested
It's not it's not been dispersed. It was requested
and granted from the council, but it has not been dispersed. So now we're trying to do the process. K. I I will give you an update.
and granted from the council, but it has not been dispersed. So now we're trying to do the process. K. I I will give you an update.
During that whole time, I'm not sure of the exact timing of it, but the American West Heritage Center has a new director. I think he was only put in about the time of during the time of the 2026 application process. I've had conversations with him. The the I think it's about completed. They have not requested the second 125,000. They have not requested that.
During that whole time, I'm not sure of the exact timing of it, but the American West Heritage Center has a new director. I think he was only put in about the time of during the time of the 2026 application process. I've had conversations with him. The the I think it's about completed. They have not requested the second 125,000. They have not requested that.
Okay. So now Alma has presented that. We've had the other documentation in, the information given to us, and we have these scoring sheets, this half sheet of paper to score, the project.
Okay. So now Alma has presented that. We've had the other documentation in, the information given to us, and we have these scoring sheets, this half sheet of paper to score, the project.
So you Similarly to how we scored other projects in the past. Correct. So when you score those other projects,
So you Similarly to how we scored other projects in the past. Correct. So when you score those other projects,
the question is how likely are you to recommend this for funding? If you could do scores for both of them individually, and then I will collect those. And just so we have them as record for both the American West Heritage Center and the the Lyric Theater that you'll discuss here in a few minutes. And also, Alma, this
the question is how likely are you to recommend this for funding? If you could do scores for both of them individually, and then I will collect those. And just so we have them as record for both the American West Heritage Center and the the Lyric Theater that you'll discuss here in a few minutes. And also, Alma, this
we always know our fund balance that we're working with when we're working through these applications. Yes. Will you remind us of our fund balance currently?
we always know our fund balance that we're working with when we're working through these applications. Yes. Will you remind us of our fund balance currently?
So if you want to put scores on those and put them out to the front of your desk, and I will collect those in just a minute.
So if you want to put scores on those and put them out to the front of your desk, and I will collect those in just a minute.
You wanna talk about the Well, yeah, we said we need the numeric theory. We can talk about the theory first. Right.
You wanna talk about the Well, yeah, we said we need the numeric theory. We can talk about the theory first. Right.
Okay. You can you can do that. Yeah. So the fund balance, I I had I worked with Britney in the finance office, Britney Kingston in the finance office yesterday. And the there's two funds. So you are the wraps and restaurant advisory board. So there's two pockets of funding, RAPS and Restaurant, which is recreation, arts, parks, and zoo, and restaurant. That's combined. And then you you kind of indicate through our process where it's gonna come from, but mostly that is handled by the finance office. So as of yesterday, when I visited with, Britney and she pulled up, the balance that we had and just balanced everything. The restaurant fund is $665,300. The wraps fund, after all calculations and everything, the there. There is more money. So the restaurant fund can be used for the, let's see, make sure I get this right. The restaurant fund can be used for the Lyric and the wraps fund can be used for the barn. Even though I just told you that there was only 46,000, there is money that has been collected, but it has not been accounted for because we usually don't account it for it until the next application period. Like it's a lump sum. So there is money there. It would just need to be all of it needs to be approved by the council after your recommendations. They approve the awards, then it has to go through the budget process. So there is money there. Last year, I think, at the end of this year, there was 600,000 left between the two. But as of yesterday, there's nearly a million dollars. After interest Mhmm. Or excuse me. 701,000. 701,000.
Okay. You can you can do that. Yeah. So the fund balance, I I had I worked with Britney in the finance office, Britney Kingston in the finance office yesterday. And the there's two funds. So you are the wraps and restaurant advisory board. So there's two pockets of funding, RAPS and Restaurant, which is recreation, arts, parks, and zoo, and restaurant. That's combined. And then you you kind of indicate through our process where it's gonna come from, but mostly that is handled by the finance office. So as of yesterday, when I visited with, Britney and she pulled up, the balance that we had and just balanced everything. The restaurant fund is $665,300. The wraps fund, after all calculations and everything, the there. There is more money. So the restaurant fund can be used for the, let's see, make sure I get this right. The restaurant fund can be used for the Lyric and the wraps fund can be used for the barn. Even though I just told you that there was only 46,000, there is money that has been collected, but it has not been accounted for because we usually don't account it for it until the next application period. Like it's a lump sum. So there is money there. It would just need to be all of it needs to be approved by the council after your recommendations. They approve the awards, then it has to go through the budget process. So there is money there. Last year, I think, at the end of this year, there was 600,000 left between the two. But as of yesterday, there's nearly a million dollars. After interest Mhmm. Or excuse me. 701,000. 701,000.
So, following the process we do in a normal meeting, we'll we can now talk of the merits for this project and the the amount that, each of us have determined we would award. I I scored this high, starting out the discussion. I scored this high and I would fund, the full request.
So, following the process we do in a normal meeting, we'll we can now talk of the merits for this project and the the amount that, each of us have determined we would award. I I scored this high, starting out the discussion. I scored this high and I would fund, the full request.
I would too. I do too. Because of the invest, you know, that I just I love when Matches. You know, when outside money or just people that, you know, that come forward. Even when cities have matching funds in their projects, you know, that always builds up. I think that that says, hey. You know, there's a community. There's a business. There's something that says, hey. This is something that is valuable to the community. So
I would too. I do too. Because of the invest, you know, that I just I love when Matches. You know, when outside money or just people that, you know, that come forward. Even when cities have matching funds in their projects, you know, that always builds up. I think that that says, hey. You know, there's a community. There's a business. There's something that says, hey. This is something that is valuable to the community. So
I agree.
I agree.
Did you wanna speak about the barn? Yeah. Would you come I was gonna talk about the barn or The barn.
Did you wanna speak about the barn? Yeah. Would you come I was gonna talk about the barn or The barn.
Or The barn. Yeah. We're we're talking to the barn. No. Yeah. Okay. Well and just so you know, the visitors we all contributed an additional $100,000 because Paul Willie as a pirate private donor was the one who came up with the I will match dollar to dollar. So we were able to use maximize your investment with a 125 and an additional 100 from the.
Or The barn. Yeah. We're we're talking to the barn. No. Yeah. Okay. Well and just so you know, the visitors we all contributed an additional $100,000 because Paul Willie as a pirate private donor was the one who came up with the I will match dollar to dollar. So we were able to use maximize your investment with a 125 and an additional 100 from the.
So, Bruce, did you have anything you wanted to contribute? On the barn? Yeah. Nope. I'm good. Okay. Anything else from we're good? Okay.
So, Bruce, did you have anything you wanted to contribute? On the barn? Yeah. Nope. I'm good. Okay. Anything else from we're good? Okay.
So it looks like that is what steps. Build the lyric, and then we can maybe make a motion to at the very end on both of them and Yeah. Send them on. K. K.
So it looks like that is what steps. Build the lyric, and then we can maybe make a motion to at the very end on both of them and Yeah. Send them on. K. K.
So the Caine School of the Arts at Utah State University submitted a a request to upgrade, the seating at the Leary Theatre, from your your handouts that you were given. They did an upgrade, and then they were evaluating this whole process and realizing that, this contractor, the contractor that they had could, complete the seating or fix the the seating. Many of the seats are broken. The seating is not large enough. They're they're narrower. The rows are very narrow, and it's very difficult for the patrons to be able to be comfortable and to actually, you know, if somebody in the middle of the row needs to get up, the whole row has to almost exit or does need to exit in order for somebody to leave. And so they thought why they had a window of opportunity where there is no shows going on, they thought that they would see if they could request this. And so it was submitted. We revised the code and now it's appropriate. And so this is coming to you. I went to the council last night after the code was approved. It was sent the council and the council recommended that this board convene and discuss this request. So any question and there is a private donor. Cash Valley Bank has offered a $50,000 match towards the 350,000. So they the amount requested is 300,000 with the total cost of 350 for the project and the $50,000 match. So the request to this board is 300,000. Any other comments, questions from the board?
So the Caine School of the Arts at Utah State University submitted a a request to upgrade, the seating at the Leary Theatre, from your your handouts that you were given. They did an upgrade, and then they were evaluating this whole process and realizing that, this contractor, the contractor that they had could, complete the seating or fix the the seating. Many of the seats are broken. The seating is not large enough. They're they're narrower. The rows are very narrow, and it's very difficult for the patrons to be able to be comfortable and to actually, you know, if somebody in the middle of the row needs to get up, the whole row has to almost exit or does need to exit in order for somebody to leave. And so they thought why they had a window of opportunity where there is no shows going on, they thought that they would see if they could request this. And so it was submitted. We revised the code and now it's appropriate. And so this is coming to you. I went to the council last night after the code was approved. It was sent the council and the council recommended that this board convene and discuss this request. So any question and there is a private donor. Cash Valley Bank has offered a $50,000 match towards the 350,000. So they the amount requested is 300,000 with the total cost of 350 for the project and the $50,000 match. So the request to this board is 300,000. Any other comments, questions from the board?
What's the total price tag of the new chairs?
What's the total price tag of the new chairs?
You wanted to speak to the Lyric Theater? Yeah. Just follow-up procedure we typically do, speaking at the dice so you can see yourself.
You wanted to speak to the Lyric Theater? Yeah. Just follow-up procedure we typically do, speaking at the dice so you can see yourself.
I'm Julie Hollis Terrell. I'm the director of the Cache Valley Visitors Bureau. And, I'm not seeing in front of you a couple of letters of recommendation that were sent to the county council, from Wendy Hassan, the director of Cache Arts, so the Ellen Eccles Theater, and from myself, in support of this project. As you can imagine and then probably recognize, Logan is known as Utah's heart of the arts, especially in the summer. And those three historic theaters that we have in that block downtown are core. They're so important to drawing traffic downtown. And it benefits not just visitors, but also locals as well. And the opportunity to be able to facilitate this project in a window when it's actually available without having shows overlapping where they have to disrupt their programming, and be able to take care of that and make it more comfortable for people like me who've eaten more brownies than some of the rest of you. It would be certainly something I'd be look that I would look forward to. We have heard, and I know that these gentlemen have too as well, some, you know, complaints about how tight the seats are. I think if we can have an overall improve the experience of just sitting in the theater, we're gonna see more and more people coming, and we're gonna see people who've been before and haven't been coming because of that reason, return. With that, I would like to, offer up the visitors bureau, would like to provide $30,000 toward this project. Thank you. The Cache Valley Visitors Bureau advisory board approved that, we for us to be able to contribute.
I'm Julie Hollis Terrell. I'm the director of the Cache Valley Visitors Bureau. And, I'm not seeing in front of you a couple of letters of recommendation that were sent to the county council, from Wendy Hassan, the director of Cache Arts, so the Ellen Eccles Theater, and from myself, in support of this project. As you can imagine and then probably recognize, Logan is known as Utah's heart of the arts, especially in the summer. And those three historic theaters that we have in that block downtown are core. They're so important to drawing traffic downtown. And it benefits not just visitors, but also locals as well. And the opportunity to be able to facilitate this project in a window when it's actually available without having shows overlapping where they have to disrupt their programming, and be able to take care of that and make it more comfortable for people like me who've eaten more brownies than some of the rest of you. It would be certainly something I'd be look that I would look forward to. We have heard, and I know that these gentlemen have too as well, some, you know, complaints about how tight the seats are. I think if we can have an overall improve the experience of just sitting in the theater, we're gonna see more and more people coming, and we're gonna see people who've been before and haven't been coming because of that reason, return. With that, I would like to, offer up the visitors bureau, would like to provide $30,000 toward this project. Thank you. The Cache Valley Visitors Bureau advisory board approved that, we for us to be able to contribute.
That's a generous gift as well. Does that mean that then the request would be less than 300,000?
That's a generous gift as well. Does that mean that then the request would be less than 300,000?
Yeah. That off. Do you know, Alma, how that we would approach that?
Yeah. That off. Do you know, Alma, how that we would approach that?
So if the if the request is 350,000, I mean, you get money money requests, and and so you kind of adjust based on matches and and what you think the entity should be awarded. So, you know, if it comes under, I'm not sure that answers your question.
So if the if the request is 350,000, I mean, you get money money requests, and and so you kind of adjust based on matches and and what you think the entity should be awarded. So, you know, if it comes under, I'm not sure that answers your question.
I'll start the discussion. Thanks, Bruce. I've been on the board for twelve years, and this request from the university runs counter to the attitude that I've always had towards the sharing out of these funds. They have other sources of income. If this was so important, they they in the request, if I remember right, they say they've raised $4,000,000, $4,500,000 that they put into the theater. Why were the seats not included, and why were they left to the end? This is a university facility. They have other sources of income, and I would rank this. It's a good project as far as the community goes. But as far as the RAPS Committee, I would rank it low. I don't think that I would allocate anything to it. I know there are representatives from here, from the university. I'm sorry, but that's the direction that I've always taken as I've tried to use these funds. I don't know.
I'll start the discussion. Thanks, Bruce. I've been on the board for twelve years, and this request from the university runs counter to the attitude that I've always had towards the sharing out of these funds. They have other sources of income. If this was so important, they they in the request, if I remember right, they say they've raised $4,000,000, $4,500,000 that they put into the theater. Why were the seats not included, and why were they left to the end? This is a university facility. They have other sources of income, and I would rank this. It's a good project as far as the community goes. But as far as the RAPS Committee, I would rank it low. I don't think that I would allocate anything to it. I know there are representatives from here, from the university. I'm sorry, but that's the direction that I've always taken as I've tried to use these funds. I don't know.
We have a lot of shared entities, though, with requests, not only the university, but we share I mean, we've had other groups that have shared interest in some of these projects, and I don't know where the dividing line is. Sometimes it gets a little blurry. Do you know what I mean? We approve things, but is it only the university that we are gonna
We have a lot of shared entities, though, with requests, not only the university, but we share I mean, we've had other groups that have shared interest in some of these projects, and I don't know where the dividing line is. Sometimes it gets a little blurry. Do you know what I mean? We approve things, but is it only the university that we are gonna
take issue with? I don't know. We we have other entities. Do you know what I'm saying? That we share things with. I'm not sure. I'm just a little confused as to where we should go. We have had some limits that we put, like, on the museum too Yeah. Because of all that affiliation, the money the outside money there. So
take issue with? I don't know. We we have other entities. Do you know what I'm saying? That we share things with. I'm not sure. I'm just a little confused as to where we should go. We have had some limits that we put, like, on the museum too Yeah. Because of all that affiliation, the money the outside money there. So
I I mean, yeah, we could look at it and say that it is cool that they did did raise $4,000,000 and and rented did a huge renovation. So let's say a lot of funds have come from other directions, and this is the final thing to get it done correctly, then n plus with generous match there or generous match there or more money there too, you can see getting this done. Just then that whole project's done. K. I got one question.
I I mean, yeah, we could look at it and say that it is cool that they did did raise $4,000,000 and and rented did a huge renovation. So let's say a lot of funds have come from other directions, and this is the final thing to get it done correctly, then n plus with generous match there or generous match there or more money there too, you can see getting this done. Just then that whole project's done. K. I got one question.
All of you can answer probably answer this. Julie, you could probably help on this too, is where it sits. You it was described last night as what the the arts district of Logan, how it sit. What the just share with me the impact that that has in combination with everything else. You know, your downtown, your you know, just share with me that what your feelings are
All of you can answer probably answer this. Julie, you could probably help on this too, is where it sits. You it was described last night as what the the arts district of Logan, how it sit. What the just share with me the impact that that has in combination with everything else. You know, your downtown, your you know, just share with me that what your feelings are
there. It it definitely is what makes downtown thrive and and Center Street, you know, be has become what it is because of the arts that are there. And it it just is definitely the the hub of life of of of Downtown Logan today. You know, I think that's what makes all the restaurants that are there thrive, you know, in general. You know, fifteen years ago, downtown was actually kinda drying up quite a bit when it came to retail and commercial. And it's it's the arts that is giving the lifeblood to it all. My my question also I like that question, but I also would like to know how many people is attracting from outside the valley. We know that the New Tompkins Festival has a very large attraction. But, you know, I believe that these other shows definitely have an impact.
there. It it definitely is what makes downtown thrive and and Center Street, you know, be has become what it is because of the arts that are there. And it it just is definitely the the hub of life of of of Downtown Logan today. You know, I think that's what makes all the restaurants that are there thrive, you know, in general. You know, fifteen years ago, downtown was actually kinda drying up quite a bit when it came to retail and commercial. And it's it's the arts that is giving the lifeblood to it all. My my question also I like that question, but I also would like to know how many people is attracting from outside the valley. We know that the New Tompkins Festival has a very large attraction. But, you know, I believe that these other shows definitely have an impact.
Share is your viewpoint. Just share is your viewpoint. The impact of that is Like patronage itself. Is that what you're saying? The lyric theater and the investment and, you know,
Share is your viewpoint. Just share is your viewpoint. The impact of that is Like patronage itself. Is that what you're saying? The lyric theater and the investment and, you know,
and, and things like that. What, how big impact would they have it on that art district? Do you have an idea of who on that? Yeah. In Downtown Locuston? Please follow the same process of introducing yourself. My name is Richie Call. I'm the head of the Department of Theater Arts at Utah State and the Artistic Director of the Lyric Repertory Company. Just to answer some of those questions, we we don't have number about who where our patrons came from, but we do know that 6,395 patrons bought tickets to our events this summer at the Lyric. What I'm about to say, I just wanna preface by saying I would never, for a second, suggest that any of the other arts organizations should receive less funding than they currently do. I would just ask you to consider the amount of programming that is done by the Lyric Repertory Company and Utah State University in this venue during the summer. I know that it has been the case that there has been a juggernaut that really does kind of do the majority of the programming in Cache Valley during the summer. I think the last several years have changed that landscape. And if you look at pure amount of dates and amount of events that are scheduled during the summer, we are by far the biggest contributor to the events that are happening over the last two summers. I'll say if you if you just look at the amount of events that are scheduled, on dates just because just because of recent changes. Again, not suggesting that anybody else should be supported less, but I think that in answer to your question, how what is the impact? I think it's a real big impact part since 1967, but particularly over the last couple years as some things have shifted. We've had to kind of step up our programming to make sure that there's some consistency. Even when the building was closed, that programming was still happening in Cash Valley. It was just happening up, at the university, and we're thankful that it's back downtown.
and, and things like that. What, how big impact would they have it on that art district? Do you have an idea of who on that? Yeah. In Downtown Locuston? Please follow the same process of introducing yourself. My name is Richie Call. I'm the head of the Department of Theater Arts at Utah State and the Artistic Director of the Lyric Repertory Company. Just to answer some of those questions, we we don't have number about who where our patrons came from, but we do know that 6,395 patrons bought tickets to our events this summer at the Lyric. What I'm about to say, I just wanna preface by saying I would never, for a second, suggest that any of the other arts organizations should receive less funding than they currently do. I would just ask you to consider the amount of programming that is done by the Lyric Repertory Company and Utah State University in this venue during the summer. I know that it has been the case that there has been a juggernaut that really does kind of do the majority of the programming in Cache Valley during the summer. I think the last several years have changed that landscape. And if you look at pure amount of dates and amount of events that are scheduled during the summer, we are by far the biggest contributor to the events that are happening over the last two summers. I'll say if you if you just look at the amount of events that are scheduled, on dates just because just because of recent changes. Again, not suggesting that anybody else should be supported less, but I think that in answer to your question, how what is the impact? I think it's a real big impact part since 1967, but particularly over the last couple years as some things have shifted. We've had to kind of step up our programming to make sure that there's some consistency. Even when the building was closed, that programming was still happening in Cash Valley. It was just happening up, at the university, and we're thankful that it's back downtown.
Is this, your program, another theater, is it a huge theater program to a lot of other do these same people that are participating in it, are they often jump into other things that's happening here in the Valley in a lot of their productions and and step up in
Is this, your program, another theater, is it a huge theater program to a lot of other do these same people that are participating in it, are they often jump into other things that's happening here in the Valley in a lot of their productions and and step up in
participating in those? Is there a way that Sure. I think there's a lot of crossover between, what our students are doing both here in town. It it is definitely created as a stepping stone for, work in the theater industry as a whole, not necessarily here locally, though it does happen. Right? There's a lot of people who will work for our company and then direct for some of the community theaters in in the area. This is particularly true, because of our recent hiring of Vanessa Balham in the musical theater program. A lot of those students now cross over and are also working for the Utah Festival Opera and Musical Theater Company. So as as Nick mentioned, we don't really see a separation between the companies in our purpose. Right? When we go to Arizona, we're recruiting people to come to Logan because we don't look at each other as competition in that way. We our phones, Netflix, that's our competition. People who come to see shows at the opera come to see shows at Lyric and vice versa. So we it's a real group effort when we go down on this Arizona, roadshow. Is that what we call it? To recruit people to come to Logan for the summer. We're working as a team to get people to all of our events.
participating in those? Is there a way that Sure. I think there's a lot of crossover between, what our students are doing both here in town. It it is definitely created as a stepping stone for, work in the theater industry as a whole, not necessarily here locally, though it does happen. Right? There's a lot of people who will work for our company and then direct for some of the community theaters in in the area. This is particularly true, because of our recent hiring of Vanessa Balham in the musical theater program. A lot of those students now cross over and are also working for the Utah Festival Opera and Musical Theater Company. So as as Nick mentioned, we don't really see a separation between the companies in our purpose. Right? When we go to Arizona, we're recruiting people to come to Logan because we don't look at each other as competition in that way. We our phones, Netflix, that's our competition. People who come to see shows at the opera come to see shows at Lyric and vice versa. So we it's a real group effort when we go down on this Arizona, roadshow. Is that what we call it? To recruit people to come to Logan for the summer. We're working as a team to get people to all of our events.
Maybe a canned question, Julie, while you're coming up. I just Are the other are the other productions and companies do they do they look to you the lyric? Do they look to the Utah State and that to say, hey. Come and help us in our productions? Do they look to those students that are have had those experience? Do they look to those. Or is are you I guess what I'm saying, are you raising the quality of the productions, because of your participation down there in that whole art district?
Maybe a canned question, Julie, while you're coming up. I just Are the other are the other productions and companies do they do they look to you the lyric? Do they look to the Utah State and that to say, hey. Come and help us in our productions? Do they look to those students that are have had those experience? Do they look to those. Or is are you I guess what I'm saying, are you raising the quality of the productions, because of your participation down there in that whole art district?
I am certainly biased, but I would say without a doubt, the answer to that question is yes. That's what I say. It's kinda probably a canned question, but I I wanted to, you know, just you to share what that that relationship that you're having with everybody else. Yeah. Talk about how now with the upgrades to the theater, you're gonna be doing programming year round, not Yeah. I mean, that is an important consideration. We we don't really have a sense yet of what this renovation will do for the amount of programming we can do at the Lyric. And the reason for that is it's been closed for a year and a half for construction. But even before that, we've had a year and a half where we couldn't use it during the winter months because the roof couldn't before even before we were closed for a year and a half, for a couple renovation, there would be a punch list of things that needed to be fixed. So we haven't moved forward with scheduling things until January. That's why we're trying to do the renovation of these seats in this window while we have programming stopped. But the hope is once we open in January that we will experience for the first time since really pre COVID what it's like to have this building operating year round, not just for university events, but also for community events. People that wanna rent it. Logan goes towards wanna be in there every October. We've we're already talking about how we set that up so that this can be a greater resource, not just for the theater department at Utah State or the Lyric Repertory Company, but for the community as a whole.
I am certainly biased, but I would say without a doubt, the answer to that question is yes. That's what I say. It's kinda probably a canned question, but I I wanted to, you know, just you to share what that that relationship that you're having with everybody else. Yeah. Talk about how now with the upgrades to the theater, you're gonna be doing programming year round, not Yeah. I mean, that is an important consideration. We we don't really have a sense yet of what this renovation will do for the amount of programming we can do at the Lyric. And the reason for that is it's been closed for a year and a half for construction. But even before that, we've had a year and a half where we couldn't use it during the winter months because the roof couldn't before even before we were closed for a year and a half, for a couple renovation, there would be a punch list of things that needed to be fixed. So we haven't moved forward with scheduling things until January. That's why we're trying to do the renovation of these seats in this window while we have programming stopped. But the hope is once we open in January that we will experience for the first time since really pre COVID what it's like to have this building operating year round, not just for university events, but also for community events. People that wanna rent it. Logan goes towards wanna be in there every October. We've we're already talking about how we set that up so that this can be a greater resource, not just for the theater department at Utah State or the Lyric Repertory Company, but for the community as a whole.
I appreciate you bringing that up because, that's that's why I've always felt is it's like, obviously, it was used more often through the year. Yeah. Because it's just again, all of those buildings are so valuable. Yeah. I mean, you know,
I appreciate you bringing that up because, that's that's why I've always felt is it's like, obviously, it was used more often through the year. Yeah. Because it's just again, all of those buildings are so valuable. Yeah. I mean, you know,
And that that's hard for theater to do all on its own because it it it takes such a long runway to get something up and running. But for music events and for community events that really don't take the same amount of preparation time, we're looking into ways to make this a very regular, usable space.
And that that's hard for theater to do all on its own because it it it takes such a long runway to get something up and running. But for music events and for community events that really don't take the same amount of preparation time, we're looking into ways to make this a very regular, usable space.
Yeah. For some of us, more than others. Thank you.
Yeah. For some of us, more than others. Thank you.
Okay. So could you just recap the true breakdown on the request?
Okay. So could you just recap the true breakdown on the request?
The requests originally that was sent to us is for 300,000. Yes. Anything is it just changed?
The requests originally that was sent to us is for 300,000. Yes. Anything is it just changed?
It wouldn't because of my 30,000. Because of hers. No. $2.70.
It wouldn't because of my 30,000. Because of hers. No. $2.70.
Visitors Bureau. The Visitors Bureau.
Visitors Bureau. The Visitors Bureau.
Mhmm. So the budget total project's $3.50.
Mhmm. So the budget total project's $3.50.
Yep. So there's still private donation. We're only dealing with 300. Yeah. You're Yeah. That's your business. Right? That's another part of the match. That's the $80,000 match is what Correct. To be on top of that. Kaye, I have one more question. If this is not approved, will you or will you not still push and get those chairs in this fall? Yes. Someone.
Yep. So there's still private donation. We're only dealing with 300. Yeah. You're Yeah. That's your business. Right? That's another part of the match. That's the $80,000 match is what Correct. To be on top of that. Kaye, I have one more question. If this is not approved, will you or will you not still push and get those chairs in this fall? Yes. Someone.
Nick Morrison, professor of music director of the King School of the Arts. A direct question deserves a direct answer. We have to. We've gotta get new seats in that theater. We can't have a a multimillion dollar renovation that doesn't allow us to do that. So we'll we'll have to find some way. I don't know what that way is. We don't currently have funds available at USU. Dave Cowley has, you know, said take the risk. You know, if we have to, we'll find it. Could I say a word about FNA costs? The the indirect costs, would that be acceptable to the board? In a way, it addresses mister Cook's question about the university having a lot of resources, if I may. Our facilities and administration cost rate is 50%. Were I to be allowed to request, well more like required to request facilities administration costs with this grant proposal, I would have had to submit never seen in the Caine School of the Arts because it would go to support other operations at the university. I think that that's sort of the difference. Every dollar that you would appropriate would go directly into this project. Nothing would go into the great slush fund, which actually after thirty six years in higher ed, I haven't found the great slush fund, but I keep looking. But a direct answer, we have to replace the seats. We've done all this stuff for the actors, for the stage house, for and for the folks that enjoy the shows, we need to provide a better environment. So we'll have to find a way to get this done. We hope to be able to rely on you as a partner in some of it. We're grateful for the funding you've provided the Lyric previously, and and I wanna thank you for your service to the arts in Cache Valley. We wanna be part of that team. Thank you.
Nick Morrison, professor of music director of the King School of the Arts. A direct question deserves a direct answer. We have to. We've gotta get new seats in that theater. We can't have a a multimillion dollar renovation that doesn't allow us to do that. So we'll we'll have to find some way. I don't know what that way is. We don't currently have funds available at USU. Dave Cowley has, you know, said take the risk. You know, if we have to, we'll find it. Could I say a word about FNA costs? The the indirect costs, would that be acceptable to the board? In a way, it addresses mister Cook's question about the university having a lot of resources, if I may. Our facilities and administration cost rate is 50%. Were I to be allowed to request, well more like required to request facilities administration costs with this grant proposal, I would have had to submit never seen in the Caine School of the Arts because it would go to support other operations at the university. I think that that's sort of the difference. Every dollar that you would appropriate would go directly into this project. Nothing would go into the great slush fund, which actually after thirty six years in higher ed, I haven't found the great slush fund, but I keep looking. But a direct answer, we have to replace the seats. We've done all this stuff for the actors, for the stage house, for and for the folks that enjoy the shows, we need to provide a better environment. So we'll have to find a way to get this done. We hope to be able to rely on you as a partner in some of it. We're grateful for the funding you've provided the Lyric previously, and and I wanna thank you for your service to the arts in Cache Valley. We wanna be part of that team. Thank you.
And I've got a couple of concerns. I just Googled, tenants at opera. Said that it's currently dropping with a 20% decline reported compared to pre pandemic levels. It says, locally, there are some outliers, but it's a complex situation. My other concern is the 270,000 that we're gonna be allocating to this. We'll not be able to be allocated next year when we meet to other projects. Okay. Correct. Any any amount,
And I've got a couple of concerns. I just Googled, tenants at opera. Said that it's currently dropping with a 20% decline reported compared to pre pandemic levels. It says, locally, there are some outliers, but it's a complex situation. My other concern is the 270,000 that we're gonna be allocating to this. We'll not be able to be allocated next year when we meet to other projects. Okay. Correct. Any any amount,
in off cycle applications is reduced from that amount. But on the flip side, the 701,000, if no request would have come forward, that 700,000 is not developing a slush fund, if you will. That is moved forward and is available in the next funding process. But whatever you recommend and the council approves is reduced from that amount that is available in the future. And and your first question, I don't think I can answer that question. It would have to be somebody else.
in off cycle applications is reduced from that amount. But on the flip side, the 701,000, if no request would have come forward, that 700,000 is not developing a slush fund, if you will. That is moved forward and is available in the next funding process. But whatever you recommend and the council approves is reduced from that amount that is available in the future. And and your first question, I don't think I can answer that question. It would have to be somebody else.
One of the criteria that we've always used is how much of the per of the project we'll be funding out of our out of the RAPS tax. And this is a big request. And I'm willing to allocate something, but I'm not willing to vote for the whole thing.
One of the criteria that we've always used is how much of the per of the project we'll be funding out of our out of the RAPS tax. And this is a big request. And I'm willing to allocate something, but I'm not willing to vote for the whole thing.
I suggest 50,000. An alternate amount you have is 50,000. Is there another
I suggest 50,000. An alternate amount you have is 50,000. Is there another
amount? I was gonna throw out a 150. But
amount? I was gonna throw out a 150. But
I was gonna throw that out. But yeah.
I was gonna throw that out. But yeah.
This is gonna be so non typical of me. Oh.
This is gonna be so non typical of me. Oh.
I'm not trying to outbid you. But I'm I'm very I do see kind of the the the that concept of an arts district or an arts area. And I do see how everyone down there is, boy, there's this crossover on it seems like on everything and everybody in all those different facilities and and who's doing what. And at first, I would look at that saying, you guys gotta get your act together. Why don't you come together and just have one unit that every one of them is serving, kind of, I won't say different groups of people, but I think they're given a lot of opportunities to a lot of different people. A lot of different types of group, different, groups that may come in, different people that may see things. And I'm I'm personally willing to invest into that area. And I'm not saying I'm willing just to invest in Lyric. I'm saying I'm willing to invest into the lyric as part of that whole area and just keeping that, that whole arts community that keeping everything strong and going. I was gonna my my gut feeling was about 200,000. So and it's steep. It's right. It's a lot. But I was hoping to at least bring forth that much. And, yes, it does. Like, your comment there, whatever we give now, but I I think it is very hard for anybody to take a couple 100,000 and generate even 80 more thousand with, you know, with a couple 100,000 just like that, you know, and as far as making that money, you know, bring other monies in. And I I'm I'm a little more in favor of, kinda going ahead with the with the the couple 100,000, thousand, and we go from there. So but, it's everybody's decision.
I'm not trying to outbid you. But I'm I'm very I do see kind of the the the that concept of an arts district or an arts area. And I do see how everyone down there is, boy, there's this crossover on it seems like on everything and everybody in all those different facilities and and who's doing what. And at first, I would look at that saying, you guys gotta get your act together. Why don't you come together and just have one unit that every one of them is serving, kind of, I won't say different groups of people, but I think they're given a lot of opportunities to a lot of different people. A lot of different types of group, different, groups that may come in, different people that may see things. And I'm I'm personally willing to invest into that area. And I'm not saying I'm willing just to invest in Lyric. I'm saying I'm willing to invest into the lyric as part of that whole area and just keeping that, that whole arts community that keeping everything strong and going. I was gonna my my gut feeling was about 200,000. So and it's steep. It's right. It's a lot. But I was hoping to at least bring forth that much. And, yes, it does. Like, your comment there, whatever we give now, but I I think it is very hard for anybody to take a couple 100,000 and generate even 80 more thousand with, you know, with a couple 100,000 just like that, you know, and as far as making that money, you know, bring other monies in. And I I'm I'm a little more in favor of, kinda going ahead with the with the the couple 100,000, thousand, and we go from there. So but, it's everybody's decision.
Well, if we're gonna do the 200,000, we might as well just do the 270. I mean, at that point, what's Yeah. And it could be less. I'm just I just think that you should just fund them because the I hear 200,000. For they're not asking for their facility on campus. They're asking for a downtown facility that we all enjoy as part of this community. And I've been to Lyric a lot. It's a great theater. They do wonderful things. And so I just think that we ought to be supportive in that venue because they're they're asking for something that affects a lot of people. Not only during the summer, but during the rest of the year, especially if they can get that through the winter.
Well, if we're gonna do the 200,000, we might as well just do the 270. I mean, at that point, what's Yeah. And it could be less. I'm just I just think that you should just fund them because the I hear 200,000. For they're not asking for their facility on campus. They're asking for a downtown facility that we all enjoy as part of this community. And I've been to Lyric a lot. It's a great theater. They do wonderful things. And so I just think that we ought to be supportive in that venue because they're they're asking for something that affects a lot of people. Not only during the summer, but during the rest of the year, especially if they can get that through the winter.
But my question is why did we plan this big project? But my question is why did we plan this big project? Did we come to the end of it? Did we not plan it for all the way through? We come to the end of the project, and we still gotta put seeds in the thing. Did we not think ahead and plan for that?
But my question is why did we plan this big project? But my question is why did we plan this big project? Did we come to the end of it? Did we not plan it for all the way through? We come to the end of the project, and we still gotta put seeds in the thing. Did we not think ahead and plan for that?
I I would like to have see and see, I think, in your formal project request that we get in March. Request that we get in March. I wish I wish this would have been all part of something like that, you know, that should be part of the the whole request, not out of cycle. Then we would sit then we could have maybe sent some of the big picture. And and I think we're giving special treatment, treating them. Because we're not putting it against other applications
I I would like to have see and see, I think, in your formal project request that we get in March. Request that we get in March. I wish I wish this would have been all part of something like that, you know, that should be part of the the whole request, not out of cycle. Then we would sit then we could have maybe sent some of the big picture. And and I think we're giving special treatment, treating them. Because we're not putting it against other applications
where we would have judged it differently if it were, compared to the other applications at the time. That's why I was leaning towards the 200,000 because that's, I think, more in line of what we would have awarded
where we would have judged it differently if it were, compared to the other applications at the time. That's why I was leaning towards the 200,000 because that's, I think, more in line of what we would have awarded
at the time judging against Would we have would we have? Would we have awarded that greater than that bigger percentage of the project?
at the time judging against Would we have would we have? Would we have awarded that greater than that bigger percentage of the project?
I was putting it more in the line of it being a multimillion dollar project. And and so that's
I was putting it more in the line of it being a multimillion dollar project. And and so that's
where I put my amount. Yeah. If if 4,000,000 was raised and paid for, this is a very small contribution towards what they've already done.
where I put my amount. Yeah. If if 4,000,000 was raised and paid for, this is a very small contribution towards what they've already done.
But it's it's a very large percentage of what we have available right now, and that's gonna that that will affect applications next year. Well, but we'll we'll have We'll get $6,000,000
But it's it's a very large percentage of what we have available right now, and that's gonna that that will affect applications next year. Well, but we'll we'll have We'll get $6,000,000
for in in the is it yeah. That'll be near So I I I agree. But, yes, it's true. But but in the whole,
for in in the is it yeah. That'll be near So I I I agree. But, yes, it's true. But but in the whole,
it's request wise, we should be okay. Because this last few request, we've actually ended up with a little extra money or actually would be a zero. Yeah.
it's request wise, we should be okay. Because this last few request, we've actually ended up with a little extra money or actually would be a zero. Yeah.
motion with her? Cathy's pushed up to $2.70.
motion with her? Cathy's pushed up to $2.70.
Well, I mean, if you're just going to the 200, what I mean, why not just spend it then at that point? No. I wouldn't I wouldn't have funded it at $2.70
Well, I mean, if you're just going to the 200, what I mean, why not just spend it then at that point? No. I wouldn't I wouldn't have funded it at $2.70
in the summer. When Okay. You would have it at $2.70 in the summer? I guess Last last year. Yeah. No. I would probably That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't have in comparison to the other applications.
in the summer. When Okay. You would have it at $2.70 in the summer? I guess Last last year. Yeah. No. I would probably That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't have in comparison to the other applications.
It seems maybe the 200 is the level that the more willing to go. Yeah.
It seems maybe the 200 is the level that the more willing to go. Yeah.
I would say 50, like Bruce said.
I would say 50, like Bruce said.
Oh, we're more You're at 200. I'm at 200. What are you at, Joe? 200 is fine. 200 is fine. I'm at the 200. Okay. So we have pretty split. We'll tell the council it was pretty split, but we're about 200 for the application. Okay. We have five minutes. Alma. Sorry. We have another meeting program to start in five minutes in the start. Yes.
Oh, we're more You're at 200. I'm at 200. What are you at, Joe? 200 is fine. 200 is fine. I'm at the 200. Okay. So we have pretty split. We'll tell the council it was pretty split, but we're about 200 for the application. Okay. We have five minutes. Alma. Sorry. We have another meeting program to start in five minutes in the start. Yes.
So I I just wanted to I received a phone call a few days ago. It was from a non profit radio station wondering, inquiring if wraps and restaurant funding is available, that if they could apply. In state code, it lists non profit radio stations. And I reached out to some other entities in the state and I found in Summit County and I talked to the grant coordinator there and asked a few questions. So the back page of your handout there has the replies. They do fund a radio station in Summit County, KPCW, and they have funded them with a 145,000 k per year additional, and that's some of the activities. I just wanted to kinda get this on the radar of the board, just in case that's gonna come up in the in the future. It's something new. It's a new request. And so I just wanted to do a little bit of research and let you know about that, and be thinking about that. And we will look at the code and and see if what we need to do, if anything.
So I I just wanted to I received a phone call a few days ago. It was from a non profit radio station wondering, inquiring if wraps and restaurant funding is available, that if they could apply. In state code, it lists non profit radio stations. And I reached out to some other entities in the state and I found in Summit County and I talked to the grant coordinator there and asked a few questions. So the back page of your handout there has the replies. They do fund a radio station in Summit County, KPCW, and they have funded them with a 145,000 k per year additional, and that's some of the activities. I just wanted to kinda get this on the radar of the board, just in case that's gonna come up in the in the future. It's something new. It's a new request. And so I just wanted to do a little bit of research and let you know about that, and be thinking about that. And we will look at the code and and see if what we need to do, if anything.
Because it is listed in the state code and so we can That that is an acceptable use for a radio station? Mhmm. People listen to radio. So I don't know. Is that a thing?
Because it is listed in the state code and so we can That that is an acceptable use for a radio station? Mhmm. People listen to radio. So I don't know. Is that a thing?
radio station. Oh, okay. Okay. And moving on to I'm sorry. To sub items c. Yes. If we are to receive and the council passes that there is a an a project that they want to have considered out of cycle, how will we approach this moving
radio station. Oh, okay. Okay. And moving on to I'm sorry. To sub items c. Yes. If we are to receive and the council passes that there is a an a project that they want to have considered out of cycle, how will we approach this moving
forward? Right. And and I sent out multiple dates. Is that work? I mean, is there a better system, something that we could do just in case this happens? I just wanted to get this in front of the
forward? Right. And and I sent out multiple dates. Is that work? I mean, is there a better system, something that we could do just in case this happens? I just wanted to get this in front of the
board. I thought that was really good. Yeah. Because not gonna get everybody on short notice like that. If something like this comes forth, let it come to the chair and the vice chair of the county council. If they feel like it's something we ought to talk about, we'll bring it to the council. I worry that this might also open up. People are saying everything's an emergency.
board. I thought that was really good. Yeah. Because not gonna get everybody on short notice like that. If something like this comes forth, let it come to the chair and the vice chair of the county council. If they feel like it's something we ought to talk about, we'll bring it to the council. I worry that this might also open up. People are saying everything's an emergency.
But we'll I think that I think the council will will they'll organize it and only send the ones that I think that
But we'll I think that I think the council will will they'll organize it and only send the ones that I think that
are really
are really
Yeah. Deemed investment emergencies.
Yeah. Deemed investment emergencies.
Yeah. That was our worry is is opening the floodgates.
Yeah. That was our worry is is opening the floodgates.
Is that what happened with the Lurid Theater? Did somebody go there and sit in a bad seat and say, hey. Let's go see if we can drag drum up some money. Who's to know? Who's yeah.
Is that what happened with the Lurid Theater? Did somebody go there and sit in a bad seat and say, hey. Let's go see if we can drag drum up some money. Who's to know? Who's yeah.
Okay. Sorry. Before we quickly do we need to make a a formal recommendation from this body to the council?
Okay. Sorry. Before we quickly do we need to make a a formal recommendation from this body to the council?
Do you wanna make a formal recommendation?
Do you wanna make a formal recommendation?
I would move that we're funding the American West Heritage ask of the 125,000 Mhmm. Again. Mhmm. And then the the Lyric Theatre that will be funding that one at 200,000, we'll send that to them. Yeah. So Do you have a second?
I would move that we're funding the American West Heritage ask of the 125,000 Mhmm. Again. Mhmm. And then the the Lyric Theatre that will be funding that one at 200,000, we'll send that to them. Yeah. So Do you have a second?
I'll second. Oh, we have a second from Kathy. Any further discussion? I will vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. And thank you.
I'll second. Oh, we have a second from Kathy. Any further discussion? I will vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. And thank you.