Cache County Council Regular Meeting – 07-28-2026

Okay. We're gonna start with opening remarks by council member Nolan Dunham.

I'm gonna get my opening remarks in the form of a prayer. Our father in heaven, we come before thee at this time as this council meeting and give thanks for this form During this month of July, we recognize our freedoms and those who have sacrificed so much and we pray thy blessings upon them who have served us. We ask for these us. We ask for these things and do this in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Now you'll join me in pledge of allegiance, please.

I pledge allegiance

Thank you, Nolan. Appreciate that. Has anyone had a chance to review the agenda and would like to make a motion about the agenda? I don't want to go So moved. Copy. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the agenda. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. What about the minutes from the last council meeting? I would accept a motion about that. I'll make a motion to approve them. I'll second that. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the minutes from our July 14 council regular meeting. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Alright. Move on to the report of the county executive.

I have some matters involving appointments, but it's entangled with the fire board and what's happening there. And I have a discussion item involving the fire board. So I'll explain what we're dealing with on appointment there. I don't have any anything to suggest an action on, tonight. I do have, a report on our efforts ongoing with Powder Mountain, and I would ask that you allow my deputy, mister Webb, to give you an update on excuse me. That's not Powder Mountain. That's Bear River There is right there. Bear River Health Department. Yep. There he is. K. Okay.

There's my consent for health coming up in the forest. You didn't even have to say his name three times to summon him.

We've talked a number of times about the interlocal agreement for health. Can you identify yourself for the

recording?

Kurt Webb. Thank you. Executive.

Thank you.

And Jordan will explain what we've agreed to. There are some and where we are on it, there are apparently a few details that still need to be worked out, but they're mostly administrative, and I'll let him discuss it.

Yeah. Thanks. Jordan Mathis, director of the Bear River Health Department. So we've been in discussions with, We Were Morgan Health Department. Just some historical background. With regards to Powder Mountain, we've already had some, I would call them, gentleman's agreements with with them on food service for for Powder Mountain for years. Meaning, it was really expensive for us to pay for a ski pass and ski to the ones that were in, Cache County. So we just said, while you're doing the others, go ahead and take care of the others and permit them. So they've been doing that for years. But now that the development's growing, we did feel like it was appropriate to to move towards a a formal interlocal agreement between, between the two agencies for public health programs and and regulations of the development. So the duration, it the you have a copy of this. And on page three well, let me go on page two. The the things that we're really delegating and asking them to take care of are food service, any on-site wastewater permitting, public swimming pools and spas, general public health complaints and emergency response. That would be something like, say, in the development, there's a diesel spill. We would expect them to address that rather than us addressing that. As well as they would address any of the fees. They would also be responsible for any grievance or appeals to permits or things like that. And then the other question was, can we really delegate legal action? The answer was probably not, and that we would we would each have responsibility for legal representation, but that we would coordinate. So if somebody's not if somebody's actually breaking public health law in Cache County, we're gonna have to take care of that. But it's probably gonna be picked up by them. And so then there's gonna be that coordination and handoff with us. Section four talks about the funding. There is no exchange between the parties with regards to to any sort of money. All these things are based off a permit. And so all the food, swimming pools, wastewater, they're all based off of a permit.

The only thing According to their fee schedules. Yeah. That's what I was gonna ask because it just says the fees will be decided by the board of set by the board of health. Is it their board of health? Their board of health. Okay. That wasn't Desiree. Health has by by law, their board of health has a responsibility

to set their fees. K. And they will set them according to that. So they'll be they they are different from the fees that we have set by our board of health. But the the only issue that we'd ever run into is on those spill related issues or emergency response. But then there's gonna probably be some sort of legal action, and then we'll get involved and we'll we'll take care of that. So there should not be any exchange of any sort of funds between the parties. That's that's the gist of it. Where it's at currently is they had some other priorities. The attorneys in in Weber County had some other priorities, said that they would get their redlined version back to me tomorrow. So I'm anticipating that. But the things that they said that would be in there was some language from their risk, from their insurer that they wanted to be put in there that would cover them by their their risk insurance. So it it seems like it is more administrative changes that they just need to feel comfortable with with regards to theirs. It has been reviewed by the Cache County Attorney's Office and given the green light as it stands right now. So I'll get those changes over to them once I have them.

So I have a question, Jordan. Then when it when we get a final version with the red lines and we both parties are comfortable with it, then it is a legislative action to approve it?

There's no signatures from us. Quarter of the interlocal agreement, you've designated that administrative ability to me. So I would be the signature on the interlocal agreement. That I don't know. Agreement because you approved the other interlocal agreement. So does that make sense? Yep.

Perfect. Thank you. So who else The cash county attorney will still sign it. Yeah. Anybody have questions for Jordan?

Kurt Webb, deputy executive again. That covered what I was going to say, but I wanna make sure that it's clear. It's that that because this doesn't because everything is fee based and it it won't affect our budget, then it then the signature on it is just an executive thing. This is informational. However, sheriff Jensen is here later on because the agreement with it with the, with law enforcement may have an impact, and so that takes the resolution.

Okay? Thank you. Thanks, Kurt. Anybody else have any other questions about that? I think we do not. Alright. Alma, you're next on the new agenda. Request to the council to approve a change in the scope of the restaurant tax for 2025.

Alma Burgess, Cache County, grant administrator. So the fairgrounds received an award in 2025 for $25,000. This was to support their suicide and mental health awareness. They had asked for those funds for a concert in the park. The reason that we're coming this evening is because that is gonna change a little bit for this coming year. Instead of a concert in the park, they're going to they have found a, organization. It's called One Degree of Separation. They provide, suicide prevention training and, comedy along with life saving education. So this award in 2025, they need to spend that by 12/31/2027, and they want to change from the concert in the park to this other training program. And that's anticipated that it will be held later this fall around August, the end of August, and they anticipate the event to be about $10,000. They have spent some of the money from that award. Approximately half of it has been spent. So they have that those funds available. So they're just asking for a change in scope, if you will, and just wanted to get approval from the council if if you desire to approve that. And Bart is here if you have any specific questions.

I have a lot of questions about this, and I can't remember. I don't know if I asked did I ask you to get answers for me, Andrew? Were you able to do that yet? They should be available on your iPad

on the original grant application.

Okay. The question I had was when they applied for the grant for the $25,000, what was the scope of that? Was it supposed to be all for that concert? And then how much of it did they spend Mhmm. For the concert? And then did they apply for more money in '26? Did they did they apply for RAPS money in 2026 for any kind of suicide concert for that year? No. They did apply in 2026.

And the scope of work and I sent the application to Andrew. So the scope of work was basically that concert and some what they've spent it on is some advertising. They did hold an event, I think it was on Thursday of last year of the rodeo fair weekend. And, they did have an event, but this other one would be for this year. But they didn't apply for another award.

K. K. Thank you. That was that was the questions I had was how how did they what was the scope of the original grant application?

K. What else? Somebody have questions about this? I this one degree of separation, I've never heard of it. I'm I'm on their website right now. I'm either I looked at the website and it's a

they have comedians do and they emphasize it was clean comedy. And then they organize a panel of these comedians to talk about just mental health awareness type things. Mhmm. And the premise is that comedy is often a venue that anything can be discussed. And so they're trying to lead the by example in discussing potentially taboo topics in an open type forum. So I didn't know much about it either. I I guess I still don't. But Is this event going to be tied in with other events too at the Riverwoods?

Or is it a standalone?

I

Bart can probably answer that. Yeah. Because I know there's a lot of several other organizations that have been trying to get off, you know, their their feet off the ground and have tried some things, and I was wondering if these they were all coming together. So,

thanks for for letting me speak to this a little bit. I met I brought and I have with me Adam Valdez. He's with One Degree of Separation, so he can answer any of the more specific questions. They held an event in Spanish Fork just a few weeks ago, and some of our committee members went down to this event. Jill MacArthur from the Bear River Health Department and and some others and come back. I'm quite impressed with what they had seen down there. We're still kind of playing with this. They do have an event scheduled for August 29, and that's kind of our target. But the goal my goal would be to try and do this event when we can target some influencers, you know, the people that can get them into to school assemblies and businesses and those things to expand the reach because any of you that have known me for very long know that this is a a passion of mine, suicide mental health awareness. And I, you know, it's important that we get the word out. So whether whether we tie in with this event at the Riverwoods or we do something later on is still a little bit up in the air. We're just asking for the change of of funding or or permission on our reps application. So we have a little bit of mobility to to kinda figure that out and go whichever way works out best.

Is the venue change just more compatible at the Riverwoods versus

Adam come from Wasatch Properties. So he has ties there. And before he met with me, he had they kinda had set something up at the River Woods. We could certainly hold an event like this at the event center too. You know, we could hold it inside or outside or Maybe hard to book that on that on a weekend though. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Weekends are pretty tough. Yeah.

So either way, you're not exactly sure which which date or what how you're gonna spend that money, but it has to be spent by December 31. I think we have December 31 of next year. Oh, of next 2027.

'27. Okay.

Yeah. But I I think it's important that we try and target those influencers that could then push it out and get more people involved. And, you know, twenty ninth, that's right after school starting. Yeah. Might be hard to get some of the people from the school systems to attend at that point where maybe a little later in the year, we might have better luck. So

yeah. K. Any other questions for Bart? Yes, Matt.

Matthew Foggs, County Auditor. My concern when we had other applicants request scope changes, a couple of cities come to mind. We've we've told them they need to go back through the the committee process. And I I suspect it and maybe Mr. Murray, the county attorney, could opine here. But I I think we're probably maybe at that point where we should probably send this back through the committee process and process that that that scope change.

K. Thank you. Those of you that are on the RAPS Committee, what is your thoughts about that? That would actually be really hard to do right now.

It's close to eyeing into that event. It would be really hard to do right

now.

But I know in the future, if things change, I imagine next year's application would probably dramatically different now.

So I mean, think of when River Heights has come in and they've changed their

the weed. And those have been very capital kind of a capital expenditure type things, you know, that we've worked with versus

Comes to mind, first of all, is when I changed from one park to the other park.

Yeah. Let's define the scope change, because I think that's a valid concern. But what I think what we're talking about is there was going to be a concert, some form of entertainment with the topic of suicide awareness, and they're switching it for something. With the same

idea of suicide awareness. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It's apples to apples, I think.

So is it gonna use all the funds this year, do you think? Or just a portion?

Yep. Well, they have 11 I thought that says 17. And this would cost 10?

Yeah. So it it may Majority? We'll we'll certainly still try and get some sponsorship. We've done a lot with sponsorships in the past. And we do have roughly $17,000 that's earmarked in the foundation account, also for this purpose. So there's there's other options, but this is the option with a time limit on it. Right? So

that was kind of thinking behind that. Yeah. Bart, I I think I'm confused. Is there another event that you're trying to piggyback with at the Riverwoods, or it's just a venue change?

Just a venue change. And that's not for sure yet. We may still do it at the event center. I I I wanna leave those options open.

So So it might not even happen in August. Correct. K. K. Do we this one, we need to take a vote on. Correct, Andrew?

That's a good question. I think, first and foremost, I think not to put mister Murray on the spot, but if you could opine onto

I I haven't seen what the actual what you're actually looking at for scope. Just sitting here listening when I'm hearing concert versus comedy show, I'm not really seeing a big difference whether it's someone singing or someone out there Social gathering. What do you see my head? I'm not necessarily seeing a change in the scope of what we're doing. It's an entertainment event for suicide prevention, so I'm not even actually necessary. But I haven't seen the Yeah. That let's just go shooting from the hip a little bit on what's been talked about here, not seeing the actual scope came in. So maybe we don't even need to vote on it, that it's

I That's my question. Do we need to take an official vote or not? Well, if your intent is to approve what is being requested, I think just to be safe,

you don't have access to make a vote. I would I would move that we go ahead and support this change for this year and to keep this event and this purpose going strong.

I'll second it. K. It's been moved and seconded that we approve this request from the county fairgrounds. Is there any further discussion,

Nolan? Possible to listen to the gentleman from One Degree of Separation just so we have more information on that? Absolutely. Is is he the comedian?

No. You're the comedian. The first two minutes is the bit. Yeah. And then the next two is the question. Would you please state your name?

Adam Valdez with One Degree of Separation. I I'll keep it brief. Just to give you some a snapshot of the presentation that One Degree has done. In the last eight months, they've been to all 50 states, 12 countries. The Pentagon invited them to present at Camp David. That's not public. Well, I guess it is now. Sorry. But, it can't be advertised. But, great organization, great presentation. It's it's gotten a lot of traction. There's ties that the founder has ties to Cache Valley. So he wants to see this brought to the Valley. And so, yeah, happy to answer any questions if you have, but that if that helps you get kind of comfortable with the presentation.

Anybody have any other questions for mister Valdez?

Maybe just give him the opportunity to correct what I said earlier if there's If there was anything inaccurate in my description earlier, I would give you the opportunity to correct the record.

No. I I think it was, yeah, fairly accurate. It's it's it's a different approach to some a very sensitive subject. Right? So there there's evidence that to make the case that talking is that it's the first step. Right? So mental health, it's complex. There's a lot of, you know, everybody's been touched by it in some capacity. And so they're very careful to stay in their lane. All they're doing is advocating and providing tools for people to feel comfortable to start the process and talk about, you know, if they're struggling.

Is that helpful? Yes. Thank you. K. I have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Thank you so much. K. Sean Nelne. Are we setting a timer?

I thought that was gonna come from councilman Erickson. The only guy we beat up over the weekend. I know. But an appropriate target for you.

Time.

To be among friends. Well, good evening, council. My name is Sean Milam, your economic development director by contract through the Bear River Association of Governments or BRAC. This evening, I was just looking to give you a annual report on the activity from the last year in a succinct, form as I can and to preface the CEO board's recommendations for the ensuing fiscal year '27. So last year, you'll, you know, you're reminded that this is what you had authorized. The application that was approved by GoEd later was, retain and recruit, which I can explain a couple of activities here. You update the county's economic assessment and strategy, which was last done in 2020 and, should be updated, which will be conducted later this year by the, end of q one twenty seven. And then a matching grant for the airport that there is a call sign for the airport LGU. You'll recall that Doctor. Jones with Suel Subar oh, goodness. With a consultancy of a name who I cannot pronounce right now from memory. I can see it spelled. But, anyway, he made a number of recommendations to improve the operational efficiency and fiscal feasibility of the airport of which the county has undertaken several of those steps in the last couple of years, and you had set aside some money as recommended by the CEO board, which for the audio record and, to remind you is the County Economic Opportunity Advisory Board, AKA CEO Board. They are advisory to you only. You have the ultimate authority, and they'd recommended that to the extent that you could utilize that funding to help progress some of those recommendations to do so. What I've I've already mentioned that the county's economic development assessment and strategy will take place here shortly, will begin shortly and and go through q one of twenty seven when it's expected to be updated. Number of you will obviously be sought out for input so that you can give your guidance on what your observations for the economy are, where you'd like it to be, as well as a number of other stakeholders throughout the county. As far as the airport growth goes, this was envisioned and held aside for the self serve fuel farm. That was a recommendation made by doctor Jones For reasons that I would rather defer to the county executive, if he would like to expand on, that is likely going to go into next year. And I can speak more about that in another subsequent slide. Just a number of just photos of some of the activity that has expanded in the last calendar year that you're familiar with Schreiber there in the upper middle. You may have heard is expanding in Logan City their production capacity, and that was approved with a a red TIF, which is a rural economic development tax incentive financing. It is the state's contribution for increment tax increment financing or TIF and did not require county participation to facilitate the company growing in our in our county. Of course, the airport, you'll notice greenfield milling was in there as well as, Pepperidge Farms, etcetera. The CEO board met recently and has proposed the following for the subsequent year's application, which is due by September 1. There are a couple of changes this year that I'll speak about, real quickly in tandem with the next agenda item. But before I do, the proposal is to keep the contract with Bragg the same. That is the same dollar amount allocation for the last four years. No inflationary adjustment or otherwise. I'm gonna skip over special projects. I'll come right back to that. And I alluded to a moment ago, LGU, a matching grant, that was approved this last year, was not able to move forward because the project, didn't have sufficient full funding and the funds alone from this grant would not be enough. The CEO board, which at any time I invite council members Mark Hurd and Keegan Garrity to chime in if they'd like as members of the board, recommended that another $18,000 be allocated to that combined with fiscal year twenty one's unspent funds that would be a little over $30,000 to go towards that same project to fund a tank replacement and other hardware necessary for the self serve fuel farm. Now to come back to special projects. The first couple of years of this grant program, a number of years ago in the West Campus of Bridgerland Technical College, new program was being created called the Business Innovation yeah. Business and Innovation Center led by Mark Alexander. And it was all about helping entrepreneurs become market ready and increasing their chance and likelihood of surviving and growth. And he did such a fantastic job and was able to show year over year growth on job numbers that you guys have decided to fund it for a second year. And And then there was even consideration for a third year, but he politely declined it, having secured funding elsewhere within their institution in order to keep the the program going. You may and are likely aware of this, but it's become so successful. They bought the old Herff Jones Building or, Transchill Building across the street from West Campus and now have completely outfitted that into a super duper expanded version of the business and innovation center, which they're now branding the hub. And And the idea is that for up to two years, he helps these entrepreneurs through guided mentorship. Some of it is projects with one another and requirements to to meet together and as well as his own professional coaching with he and his team to to help them get off the ground and help boost organic homegrown businesses. Well, as part of their expansion efforts and the growth of the campus' other programs, they're hoping to move the commercial kitchen, which is still located in the old West Campus location across the street into Herff Jones. But as you can imagine, and anybody who's ever opened a restaurant knows stainless steel and all of that kitchen equipment is fairly expensive. So he's he's looking for a means of bridging a gap of $80,000 to move that over. The good news is he has 60 clients, that six zero clients that are using the commercial kitchen to grow their home based kitchen business. So the CEO board met, and I've met with Mark Alexander as a follow-up since that CEO board meeting, and he's told me that specific number of 80,000 is a gap that he'd like to have bridged. And so that 20,500 is proposed for there. At this point, I'll pause before going over the last slide, which is a series of recommendations that forecast into the future.

Any questions? Thanks for Sean. I I think the what Bridgerland is doing is amazing. And the amount of small businesses they can help in in that for $20,000, I think that's pretty big bang for the buck for to affect small businesses in this county, which we all like to see. I'd like to see if we're gonna do economic development to help the the smaller businesses too. So I like that. Anybody else have a question? Comment?

K. Felt like there was a Ben Stein opportunity for Bueller Bueller there. Yeah. The next agenda item then, if if you were to approve before I go to the next agenda item, this is the CEO board's recommendations for next year. As noted earlier, the application is due by September 1, but there are a couple of changes. One of those changes is the next agenda item. But I'm going to leave this here for a moment because I want to go back to the last slide. But council members, Keegan and Mark, as well as Executive George Daines, need to be removed from the CEO board. Goed has updated their administrative rules. And one of those rules is they no longer want to have any elected official or an official that could possibly vote on the recommendations that come before you in this body as County Council be on that advisory board. That change has already been implemented in cash excuse me, in Rich County, Box Elder. We're still working on as well because all three of the counties here in the Bragg Service area had a member of the legislative branch that was a part of that, for reasons that I think you guys have well noted repeatedly that you like to have a member. One of the things that I've ensured with them that you could have an ex officio that doesn't vote. But, again, all of our meetings are always public. And so any of you, all of you would be welcome to the CEO board meetings where you could get a feel for the robust discussion that takes place with the group on various economic development updates. At this point, I would defer to Keegan or Mark if you'd like to opine or say anything further about that.

I made my comments and my opinion on this matter clear last meeting, if you remember. So but I'm grateful for the opportunity. I have been part of the CEO board, but I can I can get behind the state's initiative given most counties have commissioners, which is a different function than what we as council members and the separate executive fulfill? But it's a it's a rule from the state that's one size fits most. That's right. I'm done. Sorry, Sean.

I'm just not taking your bait.

You're my boss, and I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes a blunt instrument is used instead of a scaffold. So yep.

So what that means functionally for that second agenda item tonight that I'm listed for is that you need those three, and then another CEO board member in the last month has mentioned some personal complications that preclude them from being an active participant. So that member would like to be excused, and that'll be for members that need to be replaced. Now I don't have any suggestions for you this evening. The CEO board discussed some folks in their last meeting. I think we still need to met those out according to how they'd like to. I will tell you that, Brian Carver, formerly with Bragg, now with JUB Engineering, has been the vice chair for the last couple of years while, councilman Mark Hurd has been the chair. He now is the chair, and they're waiting to assign a vice chair until we get those other seats occupied with folks. For the time being, because of the quantity of folks that you've had on that board, we can still operate and still have enough that meet the state requirements. You've had an excess of those five minimum seats. So you now have five seats with the four vacancies. They've also, as part of those administrative rules, updated that the terms are no longer two years. They are four years. And so I will come before you before long. I'd like to do it in the next month if you would permit. Come before you with some names for your consideration and, approval, and thereby reestablish the staggered times and terms so that some would end, you know, two years in between the others. Any questions on those or any input for me or the CEO or board members to consider for membership?

You know what, Sean? I think it might be helpful if you sent us a list of the current makeup of what board members are left so that we could say, oh, I think I have a suggestion Perfect. For someone else how it might be helpful.

You okay if I send you the primer from the state as well as to what those five minimum seats need to have as a perspective?

Perfect. K? Yeah. Send it to Andrew, and he'll Perfect. It to us. Will do. K.

Okay. So then I come back. Oh, one of the other administrative rules, and I say, oh, as though it was an afterthought, but it's kind of a big one. They wanna make sure that there's a formalized contract. What we've had is an open, transparent process here in these public meetings since this grant was established a number of years ago in 2020. But now Goed would like to see that actually codified. And so I would like to work with attorney, Dane Murray to put together at least a rudimentary contract that addresses things that I believe well, I know some of you, and I don't know if all of you saw. Certainly, council members, Keegan Mark, and I believe executive Danes may have received, an email from James Dixon about six or eight weeks ago that noted what some of those expectations are to be in a contract. Overarchingly, you need to have an objective. What is it that you want to accomplish from economic development goals for the county? And then what are some metrics to make sure that you're holding me accountable in this function that I serve for you. So we will need to have that adopted in as part of the application that gets submitted September 1 as well. So with your permission, I'd like to reach out to attorney Daines and get something like that put together for your review. K. Then the last element are just some future recommendations that the CEO board has suggested that, you know, again, they're an advisory board to you. You have the ultimate authority in what I submit on your behalf in the application for each year's annual funding. Some of those, and I'll read them aloud here for the benefit of the audio recording, following an update of the strategic plan, renew the living on edge marketing or branding campaign that was engaged some ten years ago roughly. I think it was called Logan on the Edge. Oh, Logan on the Edge. Okay. Yeah. Probably has a very different meaning than living on the edge. Alright. The second one is the study of economic impact of specifically league sports and outdoor recreation. I noticed that you have an agenda item related to recreation centers this evening. I say nothing more, but, you know, there is a significant tourism aspect to league sports if you have the facilities for it and the season. The third one is continued progress on furthering the airport upgrades, which you've seen last year and this year. Next one is horizontal upper infrastructure capital improvements. This would be akin to, like, extending water, sewer, broadband, electricity, and things of that nature that might make bare ground or greenfield attractive to commercial investment. The next one, small business or entrepreneurial revolving loan funds to recapitalize those payments. Some folks might know this is like a micro fund, a micro loan fund. There's a way that payments could also become future principal to then loan out again in the future and kinda repeat the cycle. This would go along with what chair Sandy mentioned about entrepreneurial support. And then the last one is targeted corporate recruitment campaign. So like Logan on the Edge, but this one is, are there particular industries that you would like me to go out and specifically go target and woo to Cache County? Maybe it's food processing, value add processing, or something of that nature. Trader Joe's. Say again? Trader Joe's.

Got Costco. Got Target. You know, it's the next one in the crossroads.

Sorry. No. No. It Maybe the last text you received for me. This is a text thread. Yep. Yep.

Very fair. We do have some challenging demographics for discretionary spending per household for Trader Joe's. We don't. But I don't think it's what's that? We don't. Just make it happen. Okay. Noted and ma'am, yes ma'am. So it would be things of that nature. One that's coming up as an example. I'm not scheduled to go to it or attend it, but it's a manufacturing conference that's advanced manufacturing in Chicago, happens every other year. You might, for example, decide that that's something you want me to try to get particular companies that the CEO board and others could help vet and be like, okay. They're expected to be there. I want you to go make an introduction given the metrics, demographics, you know, supply chain elements of our community and tell them that we'd really like them to be here. So that's that. That's the annual report. Council members, I really appreciate again the time to to give this to you each year and to take away from you, your guidance and how you might want me to start working on an application between now and the next meeting for you. So I welcome any of that feedback at this time.

So back to the the the three of that. You want us to approve that so that you can put that in the application or give you a different idea if you have Yes, ma'am. Okay. Perfect. And we need to do that by a vote, a legislative vote? K. I'm always not sure. K. Does anyone have some ideas or discussions about that? Do we want to, wait two weeks to do it, think about it? You wanna give that some more thought, or is someone ready to make a motion

discussion? Two weeks would be good because he's gonna come up with a contract. Right?

Oh, I don't know if they'll have it in two weeks. But Well, two weeks will help. Yeah. That's all I'd recommend. K. We can certainly continue it. This is the first time we've looked at this.

Great. Thanks. And I'll see what kind of work I can do with Trader Joe's and then You've got two weeks.

Yeah. K. Thank you very much. Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it. K. It is a little past 05:30. I think we need to do our public hearings. Someone like to make a motion on seven a.

Yeah. I move to set the public hearing for 08/11/2026 at or about 05:30 for ordinance twenty twenty six dash 33, square footage exemption for geotechnical reports. 2026, COG project, 20, 1200 East. 2026, COG project Wolfpack Way, from 400 North in Hyde Park to 4700 North. Twenty twenty six COG Project 600 South from 600 East to 1000 East or Nubra Heights. Twenty twenty six COG Project 200 West Corridor and 300 South Roundabout Safety Improvement in Providence City. Twenty twenty six COG Project, 300 South Safety Improvements in Providence City. And twenty twenty six COG Project 1200 East North End Project.

Thank you. Do I get a second on that? K. It's been moved and seconded that we set those public hearings for August 11 that have been read to us. Is there any further discussion about that? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. We have one public hearing tonight for resolution twenty twenty six dash 24, opening and amending the Cache County 2026 budget fifth amendment. Matt, do you wanna come and be

Yeah. Matthew Funk again, Cache County Auditor. Counties are off our office is before you at the behest of the Appropriations Committee. We have, let's see, 14 items less, I think, one that's gonna get struck. Are there any questions that I can answer for you or answer for the public at this time in the public hearing?

I think we can open it up to the public. Very good. K. Is there anyone here from the public that would like to speak at this hearing about our budget opening? This would be the time. K. Someone will make a motion to Close public hearing. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we close public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. So now we can go back to our presentation from Jason Sleight. Is it Sleight or Slate? Sleight. Sleight.

I

say it different every time. I'm sorry.

My name is Jason Slite. I'm an audit partner with Jones Simpkins. We'll go over the audit quickly tonight. Our firm based here in Logan, Utah, just about a mile west of here, had the opportunity to work with the county on its financial statement audit again this year. I presented it two weeks ago to the audit committee. We had a lengthy discussion about various information in your financial statements, how the county did, and the reports that we issued today. I'll just go over those reports really quickly. We issue four reports in a governmental audit, in in this case, at least. The first is found on page one. It's a auditor's report that includes our opinion regarding the fairness of the presentation of the financial statements, the information in the financial statements. That opinion is across all opinion units. The county has multiple opinion units. These financial statements include 20 separate funds, which are a set of self balancing accounts. There's your general fund, c c CCCOG fund, and then several non major funds. There's, two custodial funds that are included. There's your entity wide governmental activities and then your aggregate aggregate discreetly presented component units, which is which consists of three component units, the health department, the airport, and the NPIC. So that first report on page one encompasses all of those opinion units. And as you can see in in the very first second second paragraph of page one, we issue an opinion that these financial statements are presented in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. That's based on the audit that we performed in accordance with generally accepted auditing standards, which include performing risk assessments, focusing on the riskiest areas. We'll use sampling approaches to less risky areas or to smaller areas. We'll look at, supporting documentation for your larger, more significant risky items. We also look at the county's design of its internal controls, the functionality of those controls, whether or not we see any deficiencies or weakness in the control, or in the design function of those controls, and and then and then report based on materiality. Materiality is an interesting term, but basically what it means is if something is being omitted from these financial statements and a reasonable user of the financial statements were to change their opinion based on the understanding that something was omitted, that would be considered material. As of as I mentioned earlier, we did not identify anything that would be considered material that's been omitted from these financial statements. So that's the first auditor's report. The second one is on page a 104, which is a report that's issued in accordance with governmental accounting standards or governmental auditing standards, where we we will let you know if we identified any weaknesses or deficiencies in your controls or any noncompliance with grants or other agreements, throughout our audit process. And I'll get to that later, but I just quickly, we did not have any findings this year, and I I'll highlight that in a little bit. The third report is, on page one zero six. It's a report regarding the county's compliance with specific federal audit compliance requirements associated with federal expenditures. When the county spends more than a million dollars in federal funds, it's required to have what's called a single audit in accordance with the uniform guidance, which which is issued by the Office of Management and Budget or the White House. We are required to test 40% of your federal expenditures. You have 14,000,000 in federal expenditures across all units this year. We tested three programs, actually all at the health department this year, and we have no findings related to those. Those were the WIC program, substance abuse, and and, epidemiology grant. And then finally, on page, one thirteen, the state of Utah requires us to test the county's compliance with various compliance requirements and statutes, various state law items. Those there are certain requirements that we test every year, like your budget. Are you are you passing a budget? Are you passing amendments appropriately? Are your expenditures exceeding your budget? Things like that. And then certain things that rotate, whether or not your cash management process is is appropriate. We have no findings with with that state compliance requirement. If you'll turn to page one zero nine, it's basically a summary of what it's it's called the schedule of findings of end question costs. It's basically a summary of what I just went over. It's it's all different reports that we've issued. It lets you know that we've, issued an unmodified opinion on your financial statements and that we've identified no no, weaknesses that would be considered material weaknesses in your internal controls or in your controls over compliance with your federal programs, and we haven't identified any significant deficiencies. That's an improvement from last year. Last year, we had one material weakness and one significant deficiency. I mentioned this in our audit committee meeting, but the county's policies and procedures have always been really well written and and and in really good shape. The material weaknesses and deficiencies have been because of a significant or material adjustments that were required to bring these financial statements to a material correct position. Those those adjustments weren't required this year, and I attribute a lot of that to your your team. We work a lot with Matt, Britney, in the finance department, and then Craig in the treasurer's office, and then several other groups within throughout the county. But we we didn't have any significant adjustments this year. And I think a lot of it was was attributed to just turnover that was happening. There's been quite a bit of turnover last few years, some changes in in how the county has approached its financial reporting, the roles. And so I think that was what was causing most of it. But your policies and procedures have always been good. And so no findings there this year. And I think I'll leave it at that. As far as the highlights of how the county did, the county had a good year. When you look at the county as a whole and you include all of its assets and its liabilities, including, like, its capital assets, which would be, like, roads, buildings, and things like that. You added $3,000,000 roughly to the bottom line. From, like, a budget basis, we're more breakeven. So your your expenditures pretty much match much match the revenues that came in if you're looking at it more like a cash basis or or a budget basis. So property taxes and and sales taxes were pretty big increases this year, but you had expenses go up as well, open space purchases, things like that. So all the break even year from a budget perspective.

Any questions for me? I I have some questions. Okay. If you go to page 81. Look. I was what I was interested in is comparing our budget to the original budget, then the final budget, and then the actual. Mhmm. And then the variance. I I think I understand what those terms mean, but the substance of it is is we projected that we would, in our final budget for 2025, we would show a loss of $5,000,001.89.

Mhmm.

But but this reports that our actual was not a loss, but a gain of $9.29, increasing our fund balance by 929,000. Correct. Is that correct? Yeah. That's within the general fund only. K. What I don't understand is is some math. I can't I can't make the numbers seem to get there. Let me start with the one in change in fund balance. If we have a negative $5.01 $8.09, we go to a positive $9.29, you show a difference of $4,000,001.01 4. I don't see how that correct. It would be larger than that.

I could see that. Yes. It might

be a a formula. And then the the preceding line, which says, total other funding sources, that $4.76 also seems to me to be in error.

Okay. I can look into that and see. And then the preceding line, total transfer out,

seems to be in error as well. And I I don't I mean, I'm I just want the numbers so we know where we are. And I don't know whether the $9.20 nine's wrong or which of these is right or wrong. But the math doesn't work in the bottom part of that sheet.

The nine twenty nine is not incorrect. The final budget column is not incorrect. It looks like it's a it's a formula issue on the variance column.

Well, I I thought that too, but when I look at total transfer in of $2,000,004.04 5, total transfer out of 13

That's the sum of the the net of those two is the $10.06 11. Pardon me? The net of those two numbers is the $10.06 11.

Well, I I I don't think my calculator will agree with you on that.

Of the $13.02 and the $2.04?

Yeah. I don't don't think that's correct. It's also gonna include the 156

up above. Pardon me? It's also gonna include the 156,000

up above the proceeds. Okay. So that would explain that differential there. Maybe it does. But I'd like you to correct that page, if you would. So I for my purposes in figuring out where we are financially, because I'm in the middle of the '26 budget, and I wanna know where we were last year. And I've You gotta get that. Math correct on that. So you wanna just substitute a page for that when you run those calculations again, please? Yep. Thank you.

You bet. Any other questions?

Anybody have questions for Jason? K. Thank you so much. We appreciate Thank you. All your work work.

K.

We need to take a take a vote on this. Do we want to hold off on that until we get that page corrected?

I I think it's just math. I think if if the September correct, I don't think the variant numbers are significant. Do you? I don't I don't it's not the variant nations, so no. It it doesn't. As long as the nine twenty nine is correct, I think I think you should go ahead and approve it. And would you I don't see any reason not to approve the audit. I read it. Excellent audit.

K. Does someone want to make a motion on that?

I move that we accept the 2025 annual external audit report as presented by Joan Sims Simkins.

I'll second. So we moved and seconded that we accept the presentation of the 2025 external audit. Is there any further discussion? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Thank you. Alright. The next is 6E. That would be our executive.

Okay. Do you want me to address you from this seat, or do you want me to address you from the podium? I think it's gonna be a ten or fifteen minute back and forth on this stuff. I think the podium might be easier for those at home to hear and for us to so we're not all looking straight across.

K. Is that okay with all of you guys? Yeah.

George Daines, county executive. I've kinda found myself in the role of assisting the Fire Board and the County Council with their, effort to create the Fire District and to move forward. There's a number of subjects that are all in active consideration. And I I think if I walk through them in the list that there's there. First of all, the fire district status and the board. In the course of trying to, amend the bylaws, we went back and forth about issues of selection of the board members. There Amy Hughey resigned. We asked attorney Mark Anderson, who's experienced with him, to pick it up. And and my directions and request was that he go back to the beginning and see what we needed to do to fix the fire board. His initial report to me was, we we have a fundamental problem with the way the fire board is organized. The statute requires an appointment process for all fire board members. What we had allowed to happen was that, for example, when a mayor was replaced by a new mayor, we just assumed that the new mayor became the replacement on that. So that disqualified two of our board members. Lindsey Peterson's selection didn't follow the statutory rules either. So because of those problems, his recommendation to me was that we reconstitute the board and we go through the process of selecting the board members again because you can't pass bylaws without the board being in place. So that's that's the fundamental. So we have to kind of start over. The process, and I appreciate Andrew helping me with this. The process for appointment of the board is set out in the statute, and it requires that you advertise for thirty days. And so to get a jump on that process, we have started the advertising as of Friday. Friday. And we put out a request for people to apply to that board. The way that will then work is I will make a proposed set of appointments to the county council. And the county council with with the advice with your advice and consent, then I will appoint members. We have to hold the period open for thirty days. So until that time, we don't have a board that can take action. The two county council members who are members of the board, Dave Erickson and Catherine Butte, do not need to go through that process. So they they are appropriate board members. I believe that Larry Jacobson would also be went through the correct process, and so he's also an appropriate board member. But rather than worry about that. What we've done is requested that people apply. And so I will come back at the end of thirty days with a proposal to make a point. It is my intent, not a decision, but it's my intent to ask the mayors who have been serving board group has suggested that we enlarge the number of mayors. And so I will come back with a list that matches what they had proposed in their bylaws. But the bylaws will have to be approved after we have legal appointments to the board.

You enlarge the enlarge the number of members, but we are not specifically advertising just for mayors.

Right. Okay. Yeah. What what I'm hopeful, Dave, is that we'll get Yeah. And by and by, by, district. And we can then appoint from that. I'm actively recruiting mayors to file applications. And, but that will be my decision and yours when we have our full list of applicants. I at this point, I know I have four applicants, which is I would not don't disclose those yet. Okay. Alright. Anyway, I have four applicants at this point. The the budget the budget awaits the the appointment of the fire board.

George, may So first is the appointment of the fire board, then the approval of the bylaws from this body.

Well, actually, it's the fire board that will approve that. Okay. Okay. And so we this body does not need to approve the bylaws? Laws? Yeah. I I think what we'll do is we'll show you the by laws to to get your commentary about them, but the by laws are typically done by the organization whose by laws they are.

K. So how many board members do you need? Well Do you have a number?

The proposal is 11, but that again is for the board to decide how many. I will make a recommendation for the number that would accumulate to a total of 11 because that's what I anticipate the bylaws will be. But until the bylaws are passed, I'm kind of

chicken or the egg sort of a situation, Joanne. What's the minimum number right now? Pardon me? What's the minimum number right now?

Isn't it three? Threes. There isn't a minimum number in the state statute. There are neither a minimum nor a maximum in the state statute.

But if you go back to our original bylaws, it's the three members.

Executive.

Larry. And the executive.

And the executive. Okay. So four Yeah. Are the bona fide ones right now. I think so.

Okay. Okay. With respect to the budget, the budget of the of the current county fire department would would be the budget for the remainder of this year. They will set a new budget for when the fire district takes over the county fire department, which we anticipate could be as early as October or as late as sometime next year. But until that time, the county fire budget will govern their budget.

The levy

provided we get a legal board appointed by the August September period, they will be in levy for the 2,027 tax year. We're we're our schedule is such that unless there's a problem, we think we will make that standard. And right now, the North Committee and the South Steering Committees are working to work on that budget. They're they're meeting, and they're actively involved in doing it. We haven't stopped the process while we get this board problem straightened out. But I spent six hours beginning at 09:00 until about 02:30. Today, working with the South Committee, that's the third or fourth meeting I've attended there. I've also attended meetings in the North. So they're actively working on their budget, on what the levy will be, what personnel are needed. Chief George has been involved with that and been very helpful to everyone. And I must say he's done a very good job of providing information that's helping them decide how the fire district would operate and what the alternatives are. And what the and what the alternatives are. It also says establishment of a county municipal services tax. Let me explain what we're talking about there. Right now, the fire district or the county fire department covers all of Cache County outside of Logan. Now some of the cities have contracted to provide services to obtain their services from Logan City or other cities. But the fact of the matter is is everything outside of Logan is involved in the fire district. But they're the they're the taxation problem in that if you're in a city, you're paying taxes to the city for your municipal fire department, and you're paying a county, taxes for the county fire department. So there's there's two levels of taxation that are occurring. Service. So for example, if you live within the boundaries of Mend and Sid, You're paying Mendon City, 400 mil, 300 mil, something like that on your property taxes that would go and you're also paying an assessment with with your water bill every month for fire and EMS service. But residents of Mandon City are also paying the county tax. People who live right outside the boundary of Mendon are paying the county, but not paying anything toward the city. But the city covers both areas equally. That's a problem. And what we're proposing is that the county levy, a municipal services tax that's roughly equivalent to what citizens inside the city pay for fire service. So so that it would equalize between the incorporated and the unincorporated area. Mendon Fire Area, which includes Mendon City and the area around Mendon, you'd pay roughly the same amount. Not exactly, but roughly the same amount. The same thing would be, around Paradise. The same situation exists there. There are more citizens in the Mendon Fire Area that live outside of Mendon than live in Mendon. But Mendon serves group. Same thing with your area, Nolan, is you're covered by either Wells, Bill, or Hire. Same situation. So what we would do with the municipal services tax is we would take the unincorporated area and levy a tax that's roughly equivalent to what you would pay if you were within the city. Now we'll determine the council will determine what level of that is, but that gives us a mechanism to equalize the two groups. Any questions about that? Okay. Anything else that you have questions or you'd like to ask about what we're doing? I should just say that, again, Chief George is providing is the is the primary source of information about alternatives and how it's being run. Both areas of the county are working on it, and I think they'll have proposals ready in late August, early September. And you're you're going to get a chance to look at all of that before it goes into effect.

So do you anticipate this will be an increase for the citizens like in Mendon or outside of Mendon or will it be a decrease?

It it depends on on the level of fire service. They are that it will be pretty close to the same, but the revenue will be reallocated. That is the amount of money we spend on fire will be roughly the same. The total dollar spent. But it will be reallocated between who's paying it. For example, I have a property in Logan City and another property that's in Cash County. I just got my notice of valuation. On my Cash County notice, I have a thing called the Cash County Fire Fund. It doesn't exist on my Logan's. It's kind of hard to equate it, right? Right. But it isn't that the county has increased the bill, but they're no longer charging Logan for county fire service. So the the same dollars are being spent, but they're gonna be reallocated. That's also true to some extent in the unincorporated area, which has underpaid compared to the cities outside of Logan. So there's going to be reallocation. So there people are going to see differences in their property taxes because of this. My Cash County General Fund has gone down. That is what I pay to the, Cash County General Fund has gone down because you've separated the fire to just the unincorporated. So one has gone down and one has gone up. Right. If you only have land in the county and it's in the unincorporated area, you're gonna see a pretty good tax increase. If you're in a city, which had been supporting a regular fire department, I don't know that it'll change that. But it just depends.

But it doesn't specify how much is going to fire

in the Logan City one. Right? It it has the amount of our county fire budget is set right in the tax notice at $3,000,009.00 $9.03 70. That's that's that's what has been allocated

to the Cache County Fire Fund. Or did you mean in Logan City? What percentage of our taxes are being allocated specifically to fire services? If it indicated or if it's a lump sum including other things or if the fire is separated

on your bill

so that you know how much Got it. There's a specific line that says Okay. Cash County Fire Fund. And my my assessment for the general fund of Cash County has gone down. Okay.

Nolan? I just need some clarity. You mentioned that we would decide the tax that's in the unincorporated, but where does the district decide that? Is that can you Well clarify between the two, the fire district and the council? Yeah. Yeah. I will.

The the cities decide what they're gonna tax their citizens. We're gonna make the same decision for the unincorporated area. But it will it will be just that slice that is roughly equivalent to what the cities are. Then the entire unincorporated or the entire area outside of Logan is taxed on the fire district. The fire district includes the cities and the unincorporated area where our municipal services levy, if you choose to do this, will only include the unincorporated count. So essentially, if you take a Mendon citizen, he's going to have his a portion of these fire and EMS costs is going to be paid through the city general fund, and a portion is going to be paid to Cache County. And they're going to put those two together to take care of the citizens and Mendon. The citizens who live in the Mendon Fire Area -Petersboro. -Are now going to pay and the county. So so they will be roughly equivalent. And and that money will come to cash count and we will go to Mendon and say, Mendon, you need to provide equivalent fire service for those unincorporated citizen that are in the Mendon Fire Area that are not within your city. That and and that will be money under your control to do that with.

Got it. So I have a question. So is this arrangement predicated on the assumption that all the cities will continue to participate? Or there's is there a a possibility that some may say, we don't wanna contribute to this district anymore, we can do it ourselves. And would that change the calculation by which all the other participating Well cities would pay into it? The the answer is is because we're using vouchers,

it won't change much. Because if for example, North Logan said, we want out of the fire district. Okay. That means we would no longer they would no longer pay into this fire fund, but we wouldn't be giving them a voucher for the money that was collected from them either.

So it's up to them to decide how they Yeah. Reallocate.

We only have one city that seems to be considering that right now. And and it's really up to them what they choose to do. That that city is buying the service from and a turn over virtually everything we collect to that. And a they're better off to be out, it's not going to change the financial metrics that we're working with because we're not planning on using the money collected in that city to run the fire Yeah. The and giving it back. I've got a well, let's see if I've got it here. I've got a big sheet here of that's a year and a half of the that's a year and a half of the budget for the prospective fire district. And I guess I should turn it right side up. Probably so small you can't see it. But it shows a great deal of the money that's coming in is going to go back out to the city because they're providing their own service. For example, Smithfield doesn't get much in the way of fire services from the fire district. So they're gonna get almost all of the money that's collected in Smithfield will go back to Smithfield. Same thing with Providence and and so forth.

I see. It's it's like you're in a cafeteria and everyone has a meal ticket, but if you bring your own lunch, then you get credit for the Yeah. Lunch that you're doing for breakfast. It works, and it's not

down to the penny, Keegan, but it's designed to be roughly fair. And the hope is there's enough cities that want to participate in it. The the efficient and cost effective to continue to provide the service. Chief George and I spent the morning on this trying to go through how much it would cost to provide EMS service through the district in the southern area, and how much would have to be collected to make that work. And It's it's kinda coming together, Keene, is what I would say.

So George, we have a meeting of the fire ward. I don't know who it's it constitutes right now, but it's scheduled for August 6.

It it will still be in I don't think we can take any

action at that meeting. But I don't think it's a bad idea. They they should all listen, I think, and hear all of this information as well. Right. Because they will eventually many of them may be members of the board. Yeah. Catherine,

I'm I am taking this information to them. They are aware of what I'm explaining to you today. But I think it's a good idea to do that. Public notice so the public can be there. The fact that we don't take any action There's a lot of times you have a meeting and don't take any action. And I think that's what we ought to do is we ought to take the knowledgeable, put them on put them up and talk through it and explain what we're doing and get input. Will Mark Anderson be able to be in attendance to field some of our questions? I think he will be able to be in attendance. He's he's given us some opinions already. He's he's encouraged us to get the application process out. Appointment process. And like I've said, my my disposition, depending on who applies, it's probably used the mayor's as the initial board. But I think over time, it will make sense for some of those people to be replaced by fire professionals. And by the way, the group that I met with this morning, which was the group in the South, are really anxious to have Chief George be retain the title of being the district fire chief and assist them in operating the fire district. And he

might answer this question. On the municipal on this possible county municipal services tax, is this only is this only applied to, improvements, or is it applied to raw land?

It it it uses the same taxable value as your property taxes do. Yeah. Is that right, man? That's right. Okay.

Because I don't I was wondering if it was something that went to households, you know, and, you know, and and that basically a a collectives via per household. No. But it is For property. It is basically based on property taxes. Yeah.

It it isn't perfect because you have the green belt situation. Yeah. But if you think about land that's in Green Belt, land in Green Belt doesn't use much of the way of fire. So in in some ways it it's actually a pretty good measure as to what's fair. Businesses are gonna pay 100% of their assessed value. That seems fair as compared to residences, which you're gonna pay 55 or 54. What is it? It's 55. Is it 55 or fifty four? Fifty five. 55. Okay. So it it would be the taxable value. If we put our municipal services tax at a range that's comparable to the cities, it will give us quite a lump of money to use to make the right decisions in the fire district. And and that money will not be under the control of the fire district. It will be under the control of the county.

Okay.

Thank you. Thank you for the update. Lot lot going on. K. Initial proposals for consideration of action. The resolution twenty twenty six dash 24 opening and amending the Cache County budget fifth amendment.

Good evening, council members. The auditor is scheduled to do the main presentation answering of any questions, but budget amendment is was not done through the correct process that we have in in code and requirement from state law. So in the meantime, we can get that fixed, but what I'm trying to say is I would heavily advise you all to specifically amend resolution twenty twenty six dash 24 by replacing the original exhibit a with the revised exhibit a. The revised version removes item six as it's it was listed in the original. So I would advise someone to make that motion before proceeding on the consideration of the rest of the resolution. And for those of you looking in your your file sharing system, if you can't see it, go to the top and just refresh the system. This? Yes.

Okay. So I wanna make that motion before we get started discussing this.

I will go ahead and I move to amend resolution twenty twenty six dash 24 by replacing the original exhibit a with the resuppized exhibit a dated 07/28/2026, which removes item number six as presented.

Second. K. It's been moved and seconded that we amend resolution twenty twenty six dash 24 by replacing original exhibit a with the revised exhibit a. Is there any further discussion about this? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. That motion passes. So now our auditor will go through these one at a time.

All 37 pages? There's not 37 pages. There's two.

There are

14 items here. One has just been struck. It's it's still numbered there, but the amounts have been taken out. Let's let's look at those 14. We'll start with number one. The executive suggested, and I agreed, that we discuss with the Appropriations Committee the removal of the fuel canopy project from the 2026 public works budget. The Appropriations Committee approved that, and we bring that to you today, tonight, for your consideration. Number one would, remove from from being constructed the, proposed, fuel canopy at the Hiram, road shed, for savings of $175,000 to the general fund and $58,800 to the municipal services fund. Are there any questions that I can answer on number one?

And this was approved a couple of years ago?

No. This this is a new one. This was approved well, it was approved last fall Okay. In the 2026, budget. For this year's budget. And this would amend that and take that out. Number two, in the the 2026 Cache County budget, we had a a line item in there for the airport fuel farm that was based on the assumption that they would get, a $1,100,000 grant from, from RAPS. That proved to be a little optimistic. RAPS declined to to fund that. I think that was the appropriate decision. And so for number two, we would ask that we remove that $1,100,000 fuel farm expense as well as the the grant revenue, which we're not gonna receive. Are there any questions I can answer on number two? Number three. Number three, four and five all deal with the fixed guideway tax. And this is something the Cache County Council approved several years ago. It's a sales tax that can be used either for transportation or for public safety or any combination thereof. But the appropriate name for it is fixed guideway. Number three, we've gone back, and with the benefit of additional hindsight and with the benefit of more months of those appropriations under our belt, we realized that we undershot the amount of fixed guideway tax that we, think we're going to collect. We think, in fact, that we're going to collect, more fixed guideway. And we realized that, in the 2026 budget that we approved last fall, we didn't quite have the allocation set appropriately between public safety and fixed guideway. So number three will increase the amount estimated for the fixed guideway revenue for 2026 to $8,961,936.

And that's for 2020 that's what we received in 2025? No. This is what we expect to receive in 2020. '26. Okay.

Okay.

Number four, deals with just the transportation portion of the fixed guideway tax. Guideway tax. Now, the county council in the past has set, the allocation of fixed guideway so that 40% of it goes to transportation. That is that is unchanged. What number four proposes to do, though, is to allocate 70% of that transportation portion to COG and allocate 30% of that transportation portion, to, county use, county road department, public works department use.

This is basically So just to be clear, of the 40 of that slice of the pie, that slice is going to be

Seventy thirty of that 40 will be Yeah. Reallocated. Okay. Yeah. So what it comes down to in reality is 12%

of the total tax comes to the county and 28% goes to COG.

If you look at it as a big If you look at it as as the For the mix. Entirety of the fixed guideway revenue stream. But I I think I I like the let's you know, the 40% that we're allocated to transportation, 70% of that would be COG. 30% of that would would be, staying with the county.

Could you go back to number three? Yes, ma'am. And give me those numbers again. Yes. So are they higher or lower? I was trying to keep track. Believe we're going to collect more

fixed guideway sales tax revenue than we had previously estimated. When we passed the 2026 budget last last fall, last winter, we passed a budget assuming how much we were going to receive. We now believe that that was low. We believe that we're going to do the correct amount of what we think we're going to receive in 2026 would be $8,961,000 So number three then proposes to amend the budget to increase that expectation to that expectation to 8,900,000.

Thank you.

Mhmm. Could I just take one second in in that presentation, Matt? The 12% for the 30% 12% of the whole, 30% of the 40, same dollar amount, that 12% that we retain at the county would go into the capital projects for our road department. And it would also one of the things that it can be used for is airports. So that becomes a tied funding source that we can use for both capital projects for roads and for the airport without funding those two things from our general fund. That that's the goal we have of trying to move the guideway monies that are limited to transportation to take out some of the transportation things that we typically put in our general fund.

Yeah. That fixed guideway money can be used for the the design, the maintenance, the construction of, of those transportation airport, or or roadways. Number five, following up on what George just said. As you will probably well remember, every year, Cache County takes from its general fund and supports the Cache County Airport, Logan Cash County Airport. Well, with the fact in mind that we can actually pay for that out of the fixed guideway tax, what number five proposes to do is go back and undo the the general fund allocation that we made last fall and replace that with with $200,000 coming out of fixed guideway. So that's gonna be a $200,000 savings to the general fund, which is is very desirable and we'll we'll replace it with that fixed guideway revenue.

And because we're basically, the county is now responsible for their portion, which went from 100,000 to 200,000, we've now found a funding stream through the guideway to take care of that. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

Are there any more questions on the fixed guideway portion of the budget open? Matt, weren't we also going to

roll out the the capital portion of the road budget and replace that with guideway money as well?

Not in this opening. But we we we are going to do that we'll get to that. For the '26 or for the '27 budget if we don't do it earlier. But yes. 6 is gone. Okay. Number 6 has been struck. 67, and 8 all focus on wraps. As I said, number six has been struck. But seven and eight, we need to do a little ministerial, a little clerical correction. We did not carry forward from the the 2024 budget the appropriation that we need to pay for the feasibility study for the recreation center that was awarded and appropriated from RAPS in 2024. We're now ready to pay that bill. So we need to reauthorize that in the 2026 budget. And that's what number seven and number eight do. Number nine, also a small ministerial, clerical item. We had the same issue with $2,826 of ARPA money that was previously, authorized but, needs to be rolled forward into 2026 so that it can be spent on the TV translator equipment. All right. Now we move into, some items for the sheriff. You may remember that the last time that that that we were discussing the budget, that that I had mentioned that we needed to replace the, the fire control panel, in the jail. If I can steal a line from cool hand Luke, what we had here was a failure to communicate. The sheriff, had had given us instructions and we just misunderstood them. Number 10 proposes to go back and roll back that mistake that we made in the June budget opening. What we had thought we were doing was taking money from subscriptions and memberships, from fuel, from professional and technical and special department supplies. And we had thought that we were, allocating those to the fire control panel. That was that was a misunderstanding on our part. That 133,000, in fact, needs to go to repair and maintain, patrol vehicles. So number 10 rolls back that mistake. Number 11 puts that 133,000, where the sheriff actually needs it so he can he can maintain his his equipment. Then that gives us number 12, which is where we ask for $110,000 for that fire control panel that we had previously discussed. It comes out of the improvements budget. It comes out of the, the capital projects. Yep. Okay. Number, number 13 and number 14 both relate to to development services trails. Number 13, the under state law, we collect fees from homeowners that are requesting building permits. And we can use that fee revenue only for services that relate to those building permits, building inspections, what have you. Every so often, we go through and and true up our accounts. And in this case, we realized that, mister Phillips' department, had rendered, $61,500 of services, in that effort in the building permit phase that, that his department needs to be reimbursed for. So that allows us to take 61,000 out of that highly restricted fund and move it over to the general fund where, particularly to roads, where it can be more readily utilized. Finally, number 14, Deep Canyon. This is a project that we've been working on for several years. And previously, RAPS had allocated $100,000 to pave the Deep Canyon Trailhead parking lot. We need to do two things here. We need to reauthorize that for 2026. But in the entering, intervening several years, the costs for that that parking lot have increased. And we think, in fact, instead of a $100,000, we're going to need a 150. So this reauthorizes the 100,000 from RAPS and allocates $50,000 from municipal services to finish that, that parking lot at Deep Canyon.

Is Deep Canyon our bridge to nowhere?

It is no. The bridge to nowhere accomplished nothing. I guess Deep Canyon, if you're a trail person,

will will accomplish

something. This is what some of the locals call Wayne's Loop, and it's also a way to access the Wellsville. Yes. It's a way to access the Wellsville. Popular trail. Anyone that goes up there And and I'll be honest. The the the nice thing about this is we get people coming from outside of Cache County, coming up here to Cache County to hike that trail, and and we do appreciate that tax revenue when they stop at a convenience store or whatever. And and so that is nice. And most of that deep canyon money, of course, was was provided by the state. If the state wants to spend its money that way, then we'll certainly certainly won't say no.

K. Thank you very much, Matt, for all that information. I don't know if you guys want to make a motion to accept these as a whole. If there's some that you want to pull out and discuss further and talk about those one at a time. I need some direction from the council on how you wanna proceed on this budget amendment.

I I'm very Matt is very good and very clear in in his concise descriptions. It's logical. It's I I love these corrections. So is amendment four is it we we're not even we never really, I thought, did anything with amendment four. So we're gonna jump over to amendment five, which then includes all of what we were looking at previously. Okay. That's what I I want. That's how I saw it too. I just Exactly. I just wanna make sure we're not, you know, jumping past something. No. No. No. No. And with that, I I would move that we go ahead and accept, I believe, it's resolution twenty twenty six dash 24, the budget fifth amendment.

Second. Second. K. It's been moved and seconded that we accept resolution twenty twenty six dash 24. Is there any further discussion?

I just have a question. Yes. This is kind of a stupid one, but so does that actually increase any taxes? It sounded like it's just trading going from fund to fund. Is that that's what it is? There's no increase in there. Right? Or does that 100,000

spending, I I should put well, there's a couple. There's the there's the Deep Canyon Parking Lot The 50. For 50 and the sheriff's fire panel for a 110. Those are the ones that come to mind, but I submit to you that both of those are are are needed. Certainly, the fire panel.

And and the way it works, like, we passed a solid budget for this year. Anything that changes that, we it has to go through this process, Joanne. But, also, it's not gonna increase taxes. It would just if there's extra money, it would come from our reserve fund. But our tax lay it does not do anything to the tax that we have already passed for this year. K. Thank you. Just accounting for it, making sure that every especially because with the county, we wanna make sure every dollar is accounted for in the right place so that we can be really transparent. And Matt's done a really great job of doing that. So k. I have a motion and a second. Anybody else have any questions or a discussion?

Maybe just if there are gonna be more budget amendments than Rocky movies or if we'll be about the same? No. Here here's the

we we the schedule we have is to do one per quarter. This puts this one is a little off schedule, so we will have another budget opening in September. That'll go to the Appropriations Committee in late August, and,

hopefully, it's very minimal. We'll see. But that'll be yeah. We'll be back at that point back on our regularly scheduled program. That's the third quarter of this. That's the third quarter. Okay. Excellent.

Alright. We have a motion and a second. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thanks so much, Matt. K. Andrew, eight b.

Again, good evening. Members of the County Council before you is resolution number twenty twenty six. This is appointing members to the Cache County Regional Recreation Center Feasibility Study Committee. So they would oversee and direct county wide recreation initiatives in terms of the study. So a little bit of background. During the last county council meeting, it resolution twenty twenty six dash 25 was passed that established the recreation feasibility study committee itself. The resolution set up and defined a legislative study committee composed of up to three members of the county council, study committee composed of up to three members of the county council as well as six advisory members from geographically defined areas in the county. This resolution itself, 26 dash 26, would be the one that would appoint members to the study committee so it can conduct its business. Right now, the names that are currently in the resolution, again, this is these names are placeholders and can be stricken and replaced with other names if the county council so desires. But right now, the current names listed in the appointing resolution are are council member Catherine Buse, council member King Garrity, from the county seat, Melissa Dahl. Dally. Sorry. Apologies. With the unincorporated county, it would be Nathan Player. For municipality north of the county seat would be Emily Schmidt. The other north would be John David Jorgensen. From the South, you would have Nathan Larson and JD Jensen. If there's any desire to strike any of the names or replace them with any, now would be the time. But, otherwise, this resolution is is ready for passage. Do you have any questions?

Which part of the unincorporated county is Nathan from? That's a good question. Right?

Smith. South Nathan

Mayer lives in Petersburg.

K. Where does JD Jensen live?

Madam.

I also believe some of the proposed names are here. Yeah. If anyone has any questions for them.

K. I'd I'd be happy to discuss this or take a motion.

If if they're here and they've sat this long in the meeting and they have something they wanna say, chair, would you be amenable to them? That would be great. I think that would be great.

Yeah. I know John David's here. And Nathan

Lowerson is here, and Melissa is here. So do you guys want to address us? Yes.

Please. John David's saying no.

I have questions. Save

your comments for the committee.

Melissa, is it would you I don't know how much to say.

K. Thank you for your willingness to say that.

Does this committee, is there any but they have a budget that they work with at all? Okay. So it's

Fully volunteer.

Are they our study that we paid tens of thousands of dollars for? Is that something that they look at? They would be directing the staff on that and giving them any questions for them. So it's already paid for. Okay. I just don't want the funnel approach.

So

Perfect. Great. Are you guys willing John David, do you wanna start us out? Gives you an idea of what you could say up here. My checkbooks, my involvement was

Pay taxes. So would it be you're providing it out? Yeah.

Gonna introduce yourself, please. My name is John David Jorgensen.

I'm from Smithfield. I think the most relevant piece of information for this is that there's been an ad hoc committee that I'm sure you're aware of, and I have been a member of that attending the meetings, meeting with the VCBO, representatives and learning, about the process, what's gone into this, and so have a lot of background information there. I have also talked to the the my mayor in Smithfield extensively about this and also the the director of the Smithfield rec center to make sure that's part of the discussion and would continue that.

Thanks for that. Thanks, John David. Appreciate it. It's your Melissa, do you wanna I just say.

Hey. My name is Melissa Dally. I don't know how far back you want me to go, but I have been involved on Logan City Parks and Rec Committee or advisory board for probably I don't even know. Six years maybe. I being part of that board, I started the discussion throughout the county of trying to get a rec center here in the county, and I'm currently serving on Logan City Council. So that's where I'm at. Thanks. Yep. Thank you, Melissa. Nathan?

Hi, council. Excited to serve. Currently in my second term as a council member in Nimbly City. I was a big part of their committees and things of our own feasibility study, and have personally benefited from recreation, organized or unorganized throughout the county, my whole life. So

Thank you. Are there any other members that of this committee here tonight?

Emily had mentioned to me that she was not gonna be able to be here tonight. She asked me to express her interest in serving or gratitude to be on the list, and apologies for not being able to be here. And I will just add to Joanne's question. Emily is currently serving on the North Logan City Council.

K. Anyone know Nathan Player well or JD Jensen that could speak to their experience?

Or yeah. So I know Nathan Claire. He lives out in the unincorporated. He has I feel like what I know about him. He has six kids. He grew up in Hollow Road. He's just always wanted to be involved in the county, and I thought this was as soon as I texted him, he said, absolutely, I will. And so I thought he would just be being in the unincorporated, I thought, would be an added benefit where he doesn't belong to a specific municipality.

JD is associated with Minden. He's involved in their recreation side, runs the softball program, which is huge in Minden. So he He was hesitant because he's very busy at work, but I hope they have the meetings after work. So I imagine all of you are involved in work. So that was his point, and I said, I hope that works out. So

So just to be clear,

big surprise. That's great.

And I apologize for not having got clarification on this question before the meeting, but usually, we do appointments, advice, and consent, that kind of process. Explain to me why that is not, why we're how we're doing it this time. And I figured Andrew would know that off the top of his head.

So the reason why this would be appointment via resolution is if you look at the Cash County optional plan, I believe it's under section 3.10. It enumerates the powers of the county council, and one of them essentially states the ability to investigate any matter of county business or to contract external external parties for consulting on how to best conduct certain county businesses. Long story short, this would be it says in the resolution, it this would be a legislative study committee because ultimately, what this committee would be bringing back to the county council would be a report and recommendation for you all to consider. So the idea being, if the county council wants to establish its own committee to conduct or expedite its own business, that is the business of the county council. But, does that answer your question?

Yeah. It does. I mean, that's that's essentially what I thought was the case. I just wanted to be sure.

K. Does someone wanna make a motion? Is is there so unclear.

K. We have a piece of legislation you passed a few weeks ago that has a process for appointing people so that we vet them. Are you saying that when you appoint a committee, you're not gonna go through that same process?

I don't know. Well, I'm Yeah. I mean, I've Yeah. That's a legitimate question, George. I believe when we passed the resolution to say that we were gonna form this committee, it was unclear how the appointments would be made. It was not clarified in that

I don't object to to you doing that. I just wanna call it to your attention because when you appoint a study committee, you you will have people who wanna discuss whether that's a good idea or not. And that's very similar to other committees that we organize and go through. So this this is a meaningful thing, and we're talking about a rather large sum of public money that might be devoted to this. And I don't want to get halfway down and then have someone say, your process didn't didn't make for public application. It was

Yeah. And I because this is the we have never done a committee like this before, but I think that, some clarification on that, we could we could, continue this for two more weeks and talk about that process. Because we I know there were a lot of questions, people asking, so how are you going to choose that committee? And it wasn't clarified in the statute or the ordinance that we passed. Statute or the ordinance that we passed. And so it's a very

Excuse me. Could the council also give some guidelines? Because the executive pointed out some things a couple council meetings ago as where is this gonna be located, and who's gonna run it, and all of those things. I think some clarifications as that committee comes point. Can we bring those together in this continuation of the two weeks? Does that make sense? Mhmm.

Yeah. Like, I would think that they would designate their first meeting and choose their own leader. But this is such a this is just such an advisory it's just a committee to look at the information that is already being gathered by BCBO and then bring a recommendation to the council if they can come to a conclusion of this would be the best choice for the county. And so it it it ultimately, it is our decision whether we accept their recommendation or not. Understand. But I'd just like to give them some Yeah. Clarification points. I think that would be really helpful. Andrew?

I believe the county executive is right. Under Cache County code 12 sorry. 2Point12Point270, I believe there has to be at least one week of of time for members of the county council to be able to see the name and then request any information that they may so want. So I would suggest moving it to the next meeting. K. I think I feel comfortable with that. We have to buy a Diet Coke for the executive for

I I brought him I brought Jason. I think these are excellent people. I think the idea is good. I just when we make rules, we we probably ought to

Yes. And and I I think that's the most important thing, and I've been saying it all along. So I really appreciate you bringing that out in this because I think we have to follow the codes and follow the rules and do things

according to the books at all times. Is there is there a time frame from this for this committee? Yes. 03/01/2027

is when the Okay. So yeah. There is a there is a set time frame.

K. So I just have a question. Well, or a comment, I guess. I'd like to see kind of an unbiased member or a few members, maybe. Does it have to be could we enlarge it to include some unbiased ones? Because

That we would have to change the resolution that we passed two weeks ago or the last I think in yeah. In that question, there's a implication that maybe the names on here are biased. Maybe you could define that more.

Well, just sort of neutral because I'll bet if I ask these people what they thought, they already have an opinion from their experience, it sounded like. And maybe somebody that doesn't already have an opinion would be helpful on

the committee. Yeah. I don't know that they they they may have come with certain experiences, but I don't know that they've already formed an opinion. Several of them have not looked at the any of the information from BCBO. They they may their experience might help them to form an opinion based on what they what they learned, but I don't know that that comes as a as a given, that they already have an opinion. They just come with certain experiences, and I think that a lot of those are really valuable.

I don't know how you I don't know how you judge bias. Or if they do have an opinion, once they find out the cost and Yep. Financing of it, the the opinions may very well change. Yes. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think anything's a foregone not biased. Yeah. There's no foregone conclusion.

I don't think of any of them. But I don't know how you would I don't know how you would judge bias anyway. That's not it's pretty intangible.

It's kinda like going to your mother-in-law saying, who is your favorite son-in-law and why am I? You know, serious. That's that's that's kinda how people look at things like that and that's when they ask. They all everyone's got some a little agenda sometimes sitting inside them or their experiences. The one thing I've been really diss disappointed in was that one questionnaire that went out. I thought that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. It was the funnel approach. And that's what I was hoping that this this committee, its diversity would probably grow a little bit. So but I think that I think that we'll be able to get to an answer.

So

but I like the time frame too. So

Okay. Anybody else want have something they want to discuss on that before we move on? We'll we'll bring that up next in the next two weeks. And I don't know, Andrew, if we need to refine the appointment process in the next two weeks or how we what what exactly are we gonna accomplish in the next two weeks before our next meeting? Yes. I believe

the point of having that timeline available is for any member of the county council to request specific information from any or all of the proposed names. Got it. K. So that's up to us if we if anyone has any

concerns to have those conversations. And would you maybe supply us with contact information?

If you all send it to me, yes.

K.

I think we're referring to the members that had proposed No. He but he doesn't have their contact information. That's what he's saying. Send it to you. He needs us. To get it from him. We have it in the same Yes.

I'll send him. I need the I can get a hold of it. I'm not Alright. We have one more thing on our agenda. The resolution twenty twenty six Dash27, approving the Powder Mountain law enforcement and search and rescue entered local agreement with Weber County. Kurt and Chad, are you guys gonna do that together? Who's gonna take the lead on that presentation? It's

Matt. Okay. Well, thanks. I'll keep this pretty short. Kurt asked me to come and talk about the MOU at Powder Mountain. If you guys probably already know the the the MOU we had before us from, like, 1994. We've been operating under that ever since this whole thing with the fire industry came up and it needed to be redone. So in my mind, it was easy just to to peel the law enforcement piece out because I can just deal directly with the Weber County sheriff and and not get it wrapped up in all the other things. So the MOU that I think you have seen, he he did put a a value to things if we needed those services over there. But I don't expect that there's gonna be anything that's gonna change in the way the process has been working for the last twenty five years with any funding or any billing going back and forth between Cache County and or Weber County as it deals with law enforcement services provided over there. There's such as a tiny piece of of Cache County in the Weber side that would generate calls for service. And him looking back over I wanted to be fair with him. I'm like, look and see what the cost is. I don't want to stick you with something that because we're friends. But he looked back and looked at the addresses in the geofence on where the people are mostly in Powder Mountain from the Cache County side, and he can't come up with two or three reports in the last twenty five years that that actually would be something for them. We already split search and rescue calls between Cache and Weber. When somebody calls to the mountains, it depends on which tower it hits off of and which which search and rescue gets called out. So we share resources back and forth already as it gets closer to the border. So I really don't anticipate any cost coming from Weber by signing this MOU. It just really lets us work back and forth like we've done for the last twenty five years.

Phil, any questions I can. Is there a time frame on this? How this stands?

Was it four, five years? Or or I think it was four or five years, and then it's renewable

with the signature. I thought it was three and then reviewed annually.

I thought it was four. I thought it was four. I thought it was four. Trying to understand on it. So

Yeah. I think the the last MOU that we had that has long since been out of place, I think the the deal made is long before my time was the county would pay Weaver County forfeit the taxes collected on those properties that are in Weaver County, and that was the payment towards the the services. We've never paid Weaver County a penny in thirty years for the services, but we always work great together back and forth. What really creates a bigger issue is we can't get over there in any timely manner in the winter. And if an arrest happens in Powder Mountain, it's in our county. They're part of the 1st District, which is backing cash, not in Weber, which is the 2nd District. So if there's a case over there that needs an arrest made or something, they can do the keep the peace. We can always go over and do it. But he's they

Kurt can answer this, you or or Chad. Is there any anything in here that addresses what if what if, like, there's two or three houses that get built up there? They're in Cache County, and they're just rowdy houses. Yeah. And then, like, or three houses that get built up there? They're in Cache County, and they're just rowdy houses. And they're like, all of a sudden, the the calls are gonna exceed any kind of taxes that we would

Well, I think the way the the way the MOU reads now is not it's nothing to do with the taxes anymore. It's on a billable hour by Weber County for specific services. So I think if if things got built over there and things were creating a lot more work for Weber County, then we might have a discussion about what the cost of this truly is going to be. But with the new MOU, it takes the taxes and in lieu of taxes and all that stuff out of the mix, and it's just right down to a a cost per hour. Out of the mix, and it's just right down to a a cost per hour. Okay.

That kind of stuff be addressed in the three year. That's why the Yeah. That's why it has a term of three years. Right? Yeah. There there were a couple of things in there that

maybe I'm I I read a lot of it. I made notes, but I can't access them now, so I'm gonna go off memory. But I wanna say there was a one hundred eighty day cancellation

Mhmm. Notice, which seemed long. I think it was ninety. I think it was just it might be one eighty. I thought it was 90. Like a general out clause in most contracts. So I was just thinking maybe we wanna tighten that up. And then also there is no

well, maybe there was some, but I don't remember a a process for renewal or what happens if you don't renew. Like, it just terminates Terminates on. For the like, are the are there I don't know. Guidelines set forth to how to renegotiate that and what happens if there isn't.

One I don't have it in front of me. I I I think if I if I remember the reading of it is, I it's either three or four years is the expiration date to it, and that we have to contact them if we want to renegotiate or continue on with the MOU as it as it as it spills. Is that correct, Andrew? Yep. Three years for the initial agreement,

and then,

essentially, a year by year renewal, which can include

A renegotiation.

Yes. Yeah. But we have the institution Just maybe defining that a little bit more on what the renegotiation looks like and what happens if it doesn't. And then the other thing was insurance, which is probably a small thing with the volume of calls. But if it got bigger, like, if one of their guys goes out and it's on our properties, is it covered by their workman's comp and their insurance and everything like that? Okay. Yeah.

Yep.

Cool. K.

Just to

clarify, so we make sure we're giving clear direction to the sheriff and to the executive's office. Keegan, you're saying you want something more concrete than section Well, I'm just I'm

I'm pointing it out because we're gonna be on the hook, and I've I've learned the hard way on contracts, you know, in in my professional career that sometimes the same people aren't in the room who made the agreement. And sometimes if things are vague, it gets complicated

in the event of an incident. So I'm I'm just making sure we're you're what you're saying is you want section five change. Because I think I think adding clarity three year term with annual renewal, and then, termination is agreement of this agreement will be excluded anything less than sixty days prior to expiration of the regular term. You have to make indication you want to do something different. A hundred eighty. You got no. You got sixty days. That one. Yeah. Let them know whether or not we wanna make a change. And then the next paragraph is either party may terminate this agreement for any reason upon no less than a hundred and eighty days of written notice. Well, the number You have the sixty days to say, yeah, we wanna just renew it. You have a hundred and eighty days to say, no. We don't wanna renew it. Here's what you gotta do. So that starts the clock in two different ways. Okay. Probably addressing what your concern is. Yeah. I think it does.

I wish I had my notes because I

it's more clear there. Yeah. On line four says you can terminate the agreement immediately upon written notice if the other party materially breaches any provision within thirty days of receipt of written notice. So there's several different backstops too.

I don't disagree with your sentiment at all, but I felt like this was really pretty tight for the concern that I would add. So I just don't want us to chase around if we didn't need No. That's good. I think with the liability piece of it, and that's a good point to make.

But it's really a statewide thing is because we're law enforcement, we have statewide jurisdictions, so to speak, because that's where our license comes from post. If I'm on my way, I 15 and I stopped for a crash and I get run over by a car and I'm acting in some official capacity. And I'm and I'm on duty at the time on the clock, so to speak. The liability is gonna fall with Cache County, no different than Weber County Task Force that comes up here and helps us with a SWOT rate or something. That's part of just being general post certified is you could take law enforcement action anywhere in the state and be impossible to have an MOU with every every community. So every agency just takes that risk if you venture outside of your of your jurisdiction. Okay.

So are you comfortable with that? Yeah. I think that clarifies the concerns I had. That's great. Alright. Does someone wanna make a motion on that?

Make a motion that we adopt resolution 2026Dash27 approving the Powder Mountain Law Enforcement And Search And Rescue interlocal agreement with Weber County.

Second. K. It's been moved and seconded that we adopt resolution twenty twenty six dash twenty seven. Is there any further discussion? Those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Alright. In other business, the our September 8 county council meeting, I thought we were gonna take that off this the agenda, but here here's the situation. UAC starts the night of the eighth, which is our county council meeting, but the only activity that night is the board meeting, which would take, councilman Erickson away from our regular meeting so that he can attend the board meeting on our behalf. And then the next day, the next two days, the UAC conference is in Provo. And so do we want to the the thought was, well, maybe we need to reschedule our meeting on the eighth, but I think if we can have a meeting without Dave here for that one night and then go down early the next day, it would save a lot of hotels. We wouldn't have have to reschedule. But how what do you guys feel about that? I wanna sleep in my own bed.

K.

Yeah. But that's just one, boy. Yeah. Tell us what you tell us what you think because we can reschedule that meeting on the eighth. We can move it. Well, that's what I was gonna ask because the alternative dates would be the fifteenth. The fifteenth. We meet on the fifteenth and the August 22.

Regardless, I'm not gonna go down Of September of September on the eighth. I think go go ahead and meet, and I'll I'll zoom in or something. Yeah. See?

I could just add my 2¢ here. If you could postpone that meeting, it would give me a little longer to get my fireboard

set up, get the budget, get all these things done. In that sense, no. We're not.

If you put it off a week, it would be helpful. That's the September meeting, not August. We're talking September. Is the September meeting. You're talking about sliding that another week. That would be helpful. K. What what do you guys I'm not gonna have a board at the best until August 28, I think.

So so our August meetings are the eleventh and the twenty fifth. Uh-huh. And then so September, we'd either have to do the first move up or do the fifteenth after

that. Yeah. And the let's see. September so let me get my calendar up here. Yeah. I just need to know what you guys what you guys are thinking. Do you want to move that meeting to the fifteenth?

Councilman. I mean Councilman, two meetings in Yes. There there's a there's a lot of September 8 is a very important date for us

because

Tax. If you're gonna do a tax increase, we we have to get to the printer with that information. Mid September, September 15 would be would be a little late. I remember that now. We would we would really prefer a decision,

if possible, on September 8 if that's I think our treasurer would appreciate that too that if we met on the eighth. I'm I'm gone. If I can Vance, I'm not gonna have a fire board

until August 28. Isn't that the August 25. My job thirty days, and I have a fire board. And one of those entities that we're talking about the tax level is is you're talking about in one week.

Yeah. It it's we're we're in a tight spot there. We're up against the printer's deadline and we're up you know, we're we've got the fire board issue, and I'm not sure there's a a resolution that makes anybody really happy. Good.

I realize you only have two meetings a month, but you could keep the eighth and and pencil in the fifteenth as well.

We can move it to Friday night. No.

fun.

Yeah.

K. So so the general idea for now is to keep the eighth so that we can make sure to meet our tax obligation if we want to as as things progress towards there, if we need to talk about another meeting, we can certainly have that discussion. Yeah. Anybody? That's fine. Yeah. Is that okay? Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know that I I might even be out of town September 15. I'm trying to figure that out. So k. Council member reports. Joanne, do you have something you'd wanna report to us? I enjoyed the

the two fifty anniversary events. I went to several of those. They worked excellent.

That's my only

thing. K. Keith? I don't have anything that needs to come before the council.

Me neither.

Catherine? No. Dave?

Well, next week's our Cache County Fairland. Number one event in the whole year. So Yep. That starts big time next week. So So Fair board meeting tomorrow. Right? Yeah. Fair board meeting. 09:00.

Where how many people are gonna be at the fair Friday night? All of us? I think so. K. Yeah. Yep. We're gonna be the the Lamont Paulson called me. He's got a a big wagon with horses, and he's It's the same wagon that we used to have there. Great. It's really

In Lewiston. Mhmm. Tell him to add another Clydesdale if we're all gonna be there. Another what?

Clydesdale. What are you saying? What are you saying, Keegan? Oh, buddy.

We got a big party crowd of with all of us on there. I think Keegan was gonna bring his wallet. That's why he needed some extra cooling power. Yeah. We have. I think Yeah. We have over here. This is my Oh, there's a there's a fair dinner. Two and yeah. There's a fair. It's just it's for the people

that are involved in the fair. I'll give that one to you. It's the rodeo dinner, 07:00 on Tuesday, August 4. And they've asked for an RSVP if you can make that. So I don't know if you all got that invitation, but check your check your emails for that. K. I the only thing I have to is just that we continue to meet with the executive on Monday mornings, and I think those are very productive meetings. We're able to it gives us a chance to to really flush out and talk about some of the things that are going on. And I'll I'll try and do a better job of giving you all a report. Like, here's what we discussed and here's kinda where some of the where we're at with some of those things. That was my intent all along. I just haven't done a good job of that, so I'll do better. The

funny story is, you know how Janine and the county put all the flags out front? So we have a picture of an individual coming and turning them all upside down and poking them in the ground. Yeah. Oh, no. Then then the we have a camera on the thing. Couldn't identify the person that did it. But about thirty minutes later, two men in work clothes jump out of their truck and go along and turn everyone up and back up. Oh. Good job. That's

Yeah. Good for them. Good for Cache Valley citizens. That's awesome. I love it. K.

Andrew, King. Yes, Andrew. King, head.

If you all would like me to register you all here for the UAC conference, please let me know. Yeah. We need to get registered right away. So let Andrew know if you can go to the conference on the ninth and tenth, and if you need a hotel room on the ninth of the ninth, or if you wanna drive back and forth, it's in Provo. We communicated that last meeting. Right? Everyone just text me so I I'm double sure. I said yes. I said no. Yeah. Please send Andrew a text right away. Maybe if we're driving down, like, Wednesday morning, maybe we could all ride together or some of us could ride together or we can save a little money in carpool. Okay. I can't look out. K. You are going because you're riding with me. K. Does someone wanna make a motion on eleven a, please?

I move is this where I'm sorry? I move to enter into executive session held in the Council Conference Room for discussion of the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of an individual pursuant to Utah code 52 Dash four Dash2058.

Second. It's been moved and seconded that we move to closed executive session. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? You're right. Yeah. K. Someone make a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second. Second. We've been second. We adjourn this meeting. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.