Fire District Board Meeting -- 06-11-2026

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Okay. K. Well, well, we'll go ahead and call me to to order the the Cash Cash Fire Department of Trustees. On on today, 06/11/2026. Well, first item is this move the agenda. I'll accept the motion. Move to approve.

Second.

K. K. Any all those in favor say aye? Aye. And, minutes, last or last, May 20.

Move to approve process.

Okay. Okay. Any discussion on that? Seeing none, both in favor say aye. Aye. K. K. Moving on to the next Next item on the agenda is is item number three. Discussion and guidance regarding regarding district district board of governance.

Three three a. Adam,

I would make a motion motion if we we we the court court rule rule by the court I would I would move in this this meeting now now, ratified the amended ended and reinstated by law laws for the board as trust that you cash cashified by our district.

I'll second that motion. And and my second my second It's not it's not a killer discussion. Please please. Starts at our discussion. Let's discuss. Let's discuss.

Look. Look. Let me let me start start that's that's what I'm saying. I I asked our legal counsel you you that and and she provided a a land a landline of the kingdom that discussed that. Alternative to that to that. I I thought I thought it was helpful. The the fourth alternative is the one one with the proposed by the group group, and and I think that that is is it is is a a a a a a a court board center center. So the that structure is provided by the fire board with the response possibilities to to to to make decisions. And we have all the all elect officials that are on board. And they they would be the party party that would gotten gotten through taxation. Hearing. You do have a process where where the where the county county buys what what is done done. But they don't they don't take take they they only only have the right right to approve or disapprove. They're not not originating AJ. So so it puts responsibility on the board to make those decisions. And inter lower lower agreements. I, for one, agree agreeable to giving you that power. I also also want to increase the possibility. And I think that that Paul Voljum does does that. And I and I would and I would would would would encourage us to quickly get that done. I have a couple of motion like like regarding the north and south south committee and involving mayor mayor Moody's last last time. So I think I think that sets Otherwise, we have we have to have another another meeting. And I think we set this meeting for the very purpose of of adopting it. I I have The the the Can the can the be worded differently? It it didn't get worded way out the way I Jeff Jeff is, but I think it's adequate.

Okay. I just I just say across the board county, I mean, as a city seems to be under a mountain. Like like, just to be just better. Like like, it it like like, let's just let's just clear clear about the job items and the intention. It should be it should be an item item that is something where

I I I find that I just I just need to to make sure that we're we're compliant. Then since you know what I what I would suggest we do is is is is we we So so so so so so so we're alright. We we we take action. And then and then our next, we take action. Yeah. So that we So that we Belt dispenser. So there's no possible issue as to whether we make change or not. That's fine.

That's fine.

Rather, I clearly said, there's many things we need to get to to make those decisions. And I think I think we should move forward on that immediately. And and and if if any problem with by law change, we'll have we'll have a plan from ten to six that because we'll be happy to have a meeting short shortly.

Just add to that, I think that that you raised you raised me. We are not changing the word. Like, if, like, you later say according to the with

that. Yes. And and following our if if adopting today, we know we know it's the process. We'll get ninety nine nine Nine point one nine nine nine nine nine nine nine two to amend to amend to to whatever whatever form. We can continue to debate on that to whatever form we would like to like to

I'm I'm in I'm in favor of of of of the of the discussing. I don't don't think we should take a call at all. At all. I think we say we I think that we still have. I think we we It's just like you mentioned. It's it's not clear. It's just says says, you know, that action action may be taken. But, yeah, I will say as a I think

I

think we've been better off than trying to fix something.

Myself myself.

So that's my that's my thoughts. If it's if it's just on the grounds of I I I I really I I I I

I I I I don't really actually, I I thought I thought

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. You did next next job describing all all of these options. I thought that was very clear. I thought that's really good. Good. Yeah.

Well, that's a lot of discussion after that today. Let's get into that to that to whatever whatever we need we need to be.

I I I think I think we we can their their recommendations. I I think the initial recommendation in terms of geographical location we we could we could provide by them. I think that the whole this together requires a measure cross cross cross cross cross cross cross cross county and the members of the org. Looking back over twenty years, if we run that there's intentions sometimes in a cog. But I think the county council the and the mayors are determined to go and go in their interactions, then this is the fault. And so if we want to continue to work together, we're going to have to pay attention to desires of both both cities and and county and make compromises. I think that's that's that's inherent in these shared structures. But but You know, we we the division of five cities hit another another major. That's We should we should do this, get our get our meetings off of the trade. We should we do this, get our get our meetings off of the trade. We should we do this, get our get our meetings off of the

trade.

Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Let me just let me just add add a little bit more schedule. Executive You're right. You're right. Be Come first of the year. They will they will already be

cycle.

Because we have we have to have we have to have selected proper tax maximum for our city cities within within a week. And so we've we've worked it with lots of uncertainty. And so I appreciate Let's move forward and let's let's fix things. Let's not slap that. The lack of Perfect. Get in the way. Good. Good. And and Let's let's let's do Larry. Because because perfect.

We're not we're not gonna get to Right. Right. But if we would have not gone get closer. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm a come up with things that are about about the amendment which we believe are care of. It's been been It's been been known. It is known that some some cities cities, one have a way with dry ground fire district two and two that have that intention. And so I'm worried about about area that would would be our trustees on the board, but but then then have their have their way to draw, but it's taken care of by no. No. Trustee must must be a resident with fire and fire. So so so for that for that, I worry I worry a little bit about the Since since since we are moving to a very, very city centric Sort of governance. And and mayors are like all on the same schedule throughout throughout the talk. A little bit about continuity of of board board from one one set of networks to another another. However, however, with the expanded number of 11, I'm I'm kind of kind of I believe that that still has to be because Unless we really really screwed a lot of things up. Incumbencies will will allow allow that annuity annuity and

And then the the the two members of the county council executive will will be their side. Exactly. Exactly. So I think that I think that I hope I hope see a lot of operations were done done. Very little. Little being done at the fire fire blow. I think the primary thing with the fire fire. Is to run the realm of money and make make sure the whole system is worth I think I think we I think there's a lot of system addressed. Address it as well as well as we can. I appreciate

the uniqueness other relation between the fire fire board and community. Each municipality. Board board as approval of the order on interlocal agreements. That means that means not not behind closed doors between staff and municipality. We all see how the process works for men. The board will have the option to

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Larry. Last question. Please. Please.

We had had didn't have a second.

It is going to be a violation of the to me. Exactly. Guys. Take action on this. It's it's not on the agenda. The agenda. Discussion. And and there's the other problem that that the only police the red line is not is not put into the record. You had a a you had you had What was put into the by West West Last meeting was the two meetings ago. Was a The original original original the current bylaws. And then And then a clean clean amended version. And an incomplete redline version. You do not have You do not have the redline version of the record. So you have that problem in and of itself. You want to You want to move forward and and take action. Take action. I'm telling you I'm telling on the record on the record that that it's not noticed, not noticed up. Can't take it. Take action. Take action. Not noticed, not lost up on the agenda. The agenda. But but again again, I'm giving you I'm giving you legal advice to these issues. These issues. I've also I've also two weeks ago, sat down with George and Kirk sat down on my lap and my hour and a half. He explained explained that the the amendments that are being posed by George by George problematic of well, I think that they violated eighteen-one-four because of how they're currently. As to how they're being chosen. I realize recommend, but there's also things about it about it. Talk about it. About that the mayors get to choose choose get to recommend to the the county council council. First of all, you have to be careful careful. There needs to be more language in there regarding county council. Council retains all of that authority. And the and the We're making recommendations. County council has all of the authority. Not enough not enough language. Party man. Party man. Having the mayor and the mayor having you guys, you know, abdicate abdicate any of your any of your power to the mayors. You really can't do that. You can't do that either. And and so I I talked through this through this George. The reason why the reason why I gave I gave the advice not put on the agenda agenda and discussion discussion because of the issues that she's gonna be able to be public meetings task. But there is there is And I also and I also reached George on Monday and hit and it said, hey. I sent you this memo on Friday. You know, do you have any questions, questions, comments, comments, or have you heard anything. Had not had not heard anything back from him. No. Because you have to When it comes to it comes to a a bylaw and it has to be public. It has to be out there for three days prior to the meeting. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's just it doesn't have to do with the with the with the file at the moment. And and considering considering all of the problems he has had with whether or not whether or not it's done correctly. That's my concern. But again but again, I'm not the voting voting body. Body. That's absolutely absolutely right. But I wanted I wanted to state state what my what my The the the red line version is being to be in the record record. I say yes. We're free for you to vote on vote on it. So the the public is completely clear as to what to what you were Three day notice

for the the an an amendment Yes. Yes. For the or the Republican Party to the to the vitals. And and and you you have issues with the verbatim rate recommended is is not appropriate.

It's trying to determine the county council is making the way that it's phrased phrased currently.

Yeah. You have a you have a if you hear it either, it is not It's not

Yeah. I think, like, some stronger language, like, this. The district board system 11 trustees. County in accordance with Utah, Kentucky, But then but they have have some of that other language is just this is what underneath that guys. This is what the district board is recommending. Does that make sense? At that at that clause and then and then could continue 2021.

The the trustee shall may be or yeah. Yeah. Recommended.

You're you're up you're up there mercy right now, which is one of the reasons why, you know, when I drafted the memo the memo, you know, that was You know, that was You know, that was You know, that was You know, that was You know, that was You know, that was that was addressed. To How much do you wanna have the county council involved in the district affairs and controlling that. Because You know, here's the problem. When I expressed George and Kurt that that because it's because it's an appointed appointed or council could come in come in and appoint anybody to anybody that they wanted. And then

executive executive is saying is true. It's true. We have to start we have to start with the company to us. Trust. And and so so I I I I don't know. On this. But I also but I also feel that if the county the county council works,

I have I have a single question. I'm likely guessing yes or no answer. Amy Amy. I earlier looked looked at Jen Jen said said should say say discussion consideration consideration with respect to this same things got discussed in The US. Amendment. Have you Have you spoken both someone's self nonchanging

that word word decision agenda? I did. I did. Which I just I just Yes. I did. I I based word the word consideration. I said I said it will be a violation of the old Meetings Act. Yes. Because the way that the

email that you sent sent I I thought the doctor Yes. Yes. I I advise by some considerations on this. So that it Discussion consideration. I understand. I disagree with that. But I was asked after I made a decision to take consideration. Beyond there, no one contacted me to tell me that it would be removed. I'm your client. Why didn't you call me and tell me that you were going to change the agenda agenda. So it didn't have the word registration on it. Well, well Why didn't you call me?

Because the person who asked the question was Tara and I responded to Tara, who is also is also a part of the the district.

Was this yesterday?

It was it was it Tuesday? Tuesday? Tuesday. It was a Monday or Tuesday.

Okay. So so that that discussion Amy Amy. Help on that discussion discussion vice vice for Amy. There was there was not a three day possibility of that.

I didn't know that. Yeah. When when when Georgia on Monday, there wasn't there wasn't a possibility because it was it was back on on Monday. Alright.

The original many, many in between were were were accurate. The red line red line which is when material assists. And It had everything else. But the but the original version, the amended version were completely accurate. It was a tool compared to the two that that had a function turned that was adequate. You know? I call I call the question.

I'll second. I'll second that.

All those in favor favor?

There's

being on I learned learned that there's no debate on debate on question. All those in favor, say aye. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any opposed? No. No. K. K. And It did prevail. So we will vote on the motion motion on the floor floor to to approve Alright. To clarify ratify the amendment? The amendment. The cash register for the rest of the board of trustees, trustees, bylaws. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any opposed? Nay. Nay. K. It is it is a supervisor as required.

We would like to provide another motion. The motion motion is is formed formed a South South many, many all of all mayors mayors, South South Valley, county executive representative and corporate area area and that we charge charts that make mayor mayor Rudy's memorandum and provide a back to backfire for our next next meeting. If possible, they call them longer

I'll second that. Any

further discussion on the motion on the floor? Just just to stay

We haven't had prince seats. Close prince seats. Close prince seats. To consider consider the work that's already been done on that. You'll have you'll have in the in the time and time on as well as

I'd also I'd also like to know about the name about Randall. Mayor Rudy. I believe Mayor Rudy. And and and that they can consider everything. But I think I think that the memorandum was very well done in terms of trying to put together feasibility studies. Study

is

Yeah.

Yeah. So I I saw I saw as well as I agree. I agree. It was a lot of great great information information needs to be gathered. A lot of that is that is within the process they're gathering now. There were specific sections about capacity within the system system that isn't part of that part of that. The original process had there. But in a country conversation with Gary from Ironwood, he felt like like it was something drafted drafted internally internally, and they're happy they're happy to just kind of assist us with pinpointing what those data collection collections are. As part of that part of that process, though, he did he did say say that we're having we're having a lot of difficult getting information back back from from departments in this process process. We have some some that never completed the first two rounds of actual data collection. Others others are through it through it at a pace pace. Great. Great. But some some very, very, very, non responsive. And so and so we look at look at cash and cash as they are raising. To do that? I know that he's reached out two or three or three different communications with them and it's

one one that's Nope.

Nope. Alright. I think there's I think there's three three been the 40 straight in just getting information processed and most most everybody else has either bogged down at the same point. It's just it's just become completely silent process process. I'm wonderful if to have all the mayors

on a committee meeting that group group and get the day of the day out there. And and chief George, we can help your help in doing this condition. I'm I'm not I'm not at work. Camp camp and, you know, you know. I had asked, I asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked, I had asked that that rely on that. They need they need they need they need to end. I I I know that there's some some resistance because of of tension to the application and so forth. I I think broad broad based at the fire floor level level and having having these committees committees I think I think energy motivating motivating these cities collect information process.

I would hope so.

As part of that as part of you know, reaching out to mayors, I asked Gary if Gary would be willing to include the mayor the mayor. He said that wasn't their place to escalate on the request request through that chain. Be felt be felt Fireworks appropriate for those for those kind of increasing pressure type requests to flow to flow and so it's just to do that to do that. It gets it gets a great call on that one. Even the last fire fireways, we had set certainties that were very, very delayed delayed or have or have not data data from his request to request meetings ago despite by numerous numerous attempts to update that data.

Yeah. Let let move the let let get that vote most side sided. I I I talked to Diane Diane today. Diane is our hack hack expert and Burton Goddard Goddard. Today, we must must rapidly if we're going going to put things in that fact in the in the 2027 year. I mean, we're already looked at the deadline of 2027. Our deadline of 2026 or way way past. And twenty twenty twenty seven, we have to we have to have done it all in the August. So so we've we've we have we have got got forward rap rapidly.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, though, to vote to now now we want to vote on the the the original original motion by the executive dates. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any opposed? Nate. Nate. One opposed. One opposed. Thank you.

I'm I'm worried worried that we're gonna be redoing redoing here shortly anyway.

Because it hadn't hadn't been clear clear. Mayor, mayor, Miller, Miller, Rudy, Rudy, I I hope that you help us lead those many, many years in your leadership. North, south, south. I just say that. We'll we'll we'll try to get many together as as quickly quickly as you can. I read I read morning morning at 10:00 with mayors, mayors, fire chiefs, fire chiefs from the South to South. You're welcome. You're welcome. Call that the south south committee. We can't. You've had a received received official invitation. I have I have other commitments. I just I just know that you'll receive receive invitation. Okay. Well, I will.

I I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't

I haven't got bought. Look. Look. But 10:00 mayor Miller Miller and mayor mayor Rudy or Rudy or Vidy both to where is county county. I would I would like like make a motion that are meeting meetings that two weeks, two weeks, today day. Two weeks from today

is the June 25.

I won't I won't I I I turn turn to the country

I

think I can get to this one. Be easier easier ride at ride at lunch for us.

How fine.

K. Twenty six at noon. I agree. No snow food. Tommy's on your ground. Are you are you?

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So so and just to make sure we'll

section of that city as well as the credit And we'll provide

the red line red line. The full red line as well for the public for the public record.

And that'd be attached to today's lead. Yes. Yes. On today's.

The full red line red line today today's The red line red line is is on record record for today's today's meeting. The first item of business will be Would

you work would you work to make sure that those things are included with our next minutes meeting so that so make sure everybody has has them? Okay. K.

Any other any other items of items of

So so I will so we need a we need a a motion to fix that date.

We can just we can just come in to that that date works. Alright. Alright. Yeah. Friday. Friday, June 26.

June 26. June 26. Let's let's let's encourage our South South and Northeast cities much more toward to us as they can prior to prior to that meeting.

That sounds that sounds good. Okay. Any other other items of business? I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move. I'll move.