RAPZ & Restaurant Tax Board Meeting - Part A 04-24-2026

Green. We're good? Okay. Today's agenda is we will go ahead and review all the applications. And we've set it up a little differently, as we determined in the last meeting. And we're gonna cruise today. We're gonna do it sufficiently and thoroughly, but we're gonna cruise. Right. And and then we'll we have lunch coming in close to noon. From the meeting. Yeah. After this. So the hunger can can push us to go even faster. But we'll go ahead and and turn the time to Alma as, we get started with, separating these with the rankings. We're gonna go in the rank order of those that were ranked the highest, and discussion will go in the order of of the ranking that was given to them.

Okay. Before you start into that, I sent out the minutes. Mhmm.

Oh, yes. Thank you. In our in the email that we got from Alma what day did you send that, Alma? I've got my email up here. I don't remember. Alma sent us the email a couple of weeks ago about from the minutes from our last meeting. I'll accept a motion to approve those minutes.

So moved.

And second? K. We have a motion from mister Cook and a second from mister Needham. And, any discussion on the minutes? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Thank you. And then, we don't really have a formal agenda to approve just going through the the application. So that will just move ahead with the rest of the meeting. Thank you. K.

Okay. So we we had another meeting on March 13, and we went over the overview. Mhmm. So I don't wanna spend a lot of time on that. Just by the end of this meeting, we'll go through and double check and make sure that the recommendations are correct so that recommendations are correct so that that can be passed on to the council. And and then we'll just have kind of a follow-up after you've finished, just to get some feedback on future recommendations on how to proceed, for next year. So we can go ahead and and get started with the, highest to the lowest score. Each each application was scored by each of the the reviewers, and then they were added together, and it came up with the score for each of the applications. So if you wanna get started unless there's any questions or k.

I think we're good. Thank you.

So the highest application was number two. That's Amalgam. So we will start with that one. It's application number two.

They're basically asking for a 100%, And I understand that we want to help the smaller communities, but because they did not put in more of their own money, I would suggest that we give them something less than they requested.

But they were putting it in kind, weren't they, from what I understood? There was. There was and they do it. They do it all by themselves mostly.

I know that. They put it in Zoom.

But I had that same feeling. I I was thinking about that about 70%.

I in the same vein, Bruce, I said 12,500. I mean, it it's not a big ask that they had asked for, but also they're a small municipality, so they do have to have some funds that they've raised on their own.

I I I have it at 1,400, but I'm good with $1,312.50, wherever you wanna go.

Yeah. Wait. Wait. Wait. 13,000. Sorry. 13,000.

It's not 1,300.

I'm only off by a factor of 10. It's a little bit. It's it's an early It's early. It's early.

You really tightened up the news.

I had 7,500, but

Which could make it a two year project, almost. You know, they they coulda if we're needing if we're needing something, we could actually create that if we give them, like, even a half now, then let them work through, get everything they can done,

and back next year. If if they have to buy the equipment and then the laborers in in kind of installing, we're just making them hold that in a bank account for a year. Mhmm. I just as soon fund them. I agree. And and then next year, if we end up if if if they end up making a big ask of us next year, then we hold off. Yeah. I think that's a good suggestion.

So the number do we have a number? We've got 13,500. I suggested 12,500. We have a number of, of half of the, amount of 7 7,500. Dave, split split the difference. What do you what's your motion?

I I was looking about that 7,500. So if we if you're looking about that $12.05, you know, if Okay. But yes. The $12.05. 12,500.

Any objections? Do it. K. 12,500.

Have a a bake sale for the rest. And, of course, we'll have to remember this all the way through the process that we might get to the end and have so much extra money that we just So much extra money. We also need to earmark where we need to maybe cut more. Yeah. Anyway, we've got a long way to go. Yeah.

So 12,500 is that one. Yep. Thank you. The next one is, Cash Community Connections. It's application number 10.

The interfaith concerts and events.

Produces a lot of events for not a lot of money. Yeah. I

I fully funded that in my request. I did too. I did too. Yep. Let's just do that. That's why they're at the top.

Yep. I think that we're good fully funding for $55,850.

Lot of donated hours. Yeah. Lot of donated hours. Right.

K. The next highest score is 15. That's Cache County Fairgrounds. This is the water main replacement.

I spoke with the executive's office, and this is a project that they'd had some studies put into, and it's a project that is in kind of dire not kind of, is dire need. And we don't wanna have a environmental hazard on our hands from from the discussion I had with them. There's a huge safety factor. Yeah. Yes. With it. Yeah. So I my I requested A 100%. A 100% of the funding. Mhmm.

And that's that's what I have as well. $366,001.57.

Mhmm.

Mhmm. 50 for sure.

Next, highest Okay. This is where we come in. They they also had another application. David mentioned earlier, do we wanna do those in in tandem, or do we wanna take that, just in consideration as as that score since that's a lower score, just take that as as it comes lower in the in the process?

I'm okay just taking it in the process. Okay. Then let's just remind I think we just remember that we did full this fully fund this one. Yeah. K. K. I know a lot of Cache County, they're they're a lot of them, they're actually very quite different too Mhmm. Their ass.

So the next highest score is, number three application number three, American Festival Chorus and Orchestra.

Is this the two fifty America Two Fifty One, or is this a different one? 40,000. But is this for their America two fifty concert, or no? Is this It's just general Oh, they're general operations. Okay. I recommended the whole thing. As well. I did it too. Similarly. Yes. Yeah. Okay. 40000?

Yep. Yes.

Great. Number 14, Cache County Fair and Rodeo is the next highest score. This is the Fair and Rodeo enhancement.

I think that's a very minimal investment for them, not the amount of people that are involved in all that. And what it generates even for the county and everything and the celebration that it is, I I had full funding on that one. Yes. Same. Okay. Me too. 75,000.

Next highest score is number application number 27, Cache Valley, cowboy rendezvous.

Okay. I think I cut them.

I like this one. Score is super high. I'd fund it at 18,000.

That's my thought too. Yeah. I I didn't do the full 20 myself. 18. 18. 18. That's where we were last year, weren't we? I remember I had it. I was I was gonna keep it at 8 last year's 18. To have funding. So we ran off here with 18? Yes. Yeah. K. Something for everybody. That's neat.

Cruising Association.

I'm location number 28.

K.

They requested 40. Amended

40. Oh, good. Same here. Yeah. They had carried good, cash balance as well. I was close to 45, but that's okay. Let's do 40. 40 is what my recommendation was. I'm okay with that. 40,000? Mhmm. We've got three here with 40. Is there any objections on this end of the dais? You mulling it over still, Dave? What's that? You mulling it over still? Or Do you wanna object or no?

I I had it for a little bit more, but that's fine. 40 let's go with 40 and then we can that may be a comeback. I don't know.

K. I think we're on a consensus of 40,000. 40,000. Thanks, Alma. Next highest is 43. That's Lewiston for, city park restrooms.

I suggested full funding.

I suggested full funding to 60,000.

I had it in 50,000, but I'm okay if we end up at 60.

It's only, what, 35% of what they need. I thought

restaurants are kind of important if you're I I have the full funding I have full funding on the restaurants.

Let's keep it there. Yeah. 60,000.

60,000.

Next highest is number application number 72, Smithfield City. This is their youth theater presentation. They had a couple of other applications as well.

I suggested full funding on this one, $3,500.

Me

too. Also They've been pretty consistent even last year, and it's and they've done a Mhmm. I know they've done a really wonderful job there. Do a lot with a little. Yeah. Yeah. There isn't.

3,500?

Yes. Yep.

Next highest is number one. This is the Allen and Alice Stokes Nature Center.

I have it at 30,000 instead of at 35. Great program. Good stuff. I think they got 30 last year. No. That's what I I kept them with last year's Yeah. Myself. But

I suggested 35, but I'm okay with 30. I had thirty two five. I think we're all kind of in the same ballpark. So I just I'm fine with 30,000. 35. 30,000. 30,000.

Number 13, Cache County. This is for the Cheese and Dairy Festival. I

have I haven't even been to that. Is that well attended? Oh my land. Holy cow. Did you go? Oh yeah. I tasted some of the cheese. Oh, but it was it was packed. And there was for one time they were they figured there was over 600 people just in the event center at one time. Wow. And they were they had booked $202.70 people that were going for tours, you know, in the Gambit and the show that was going on. Really? That's awesome. And the stands were packed there, and I sat there. I was just I was real pleased with the and they changed it, you know, from last fall to this spring, and it was just

a huge success. Huge. Date change is a good thing, Minh. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's it was a huge success and growing in the there's a lot of corporate involvement, you know, and participation there. And I I think it was just such a it was a huge success with this many people that were there.

I agree with your comments, but as I look through their numbers, it seems like they budget high, and they seem to regularly have cash left over.

And and the thing is it all depends on the corporate donors, you know, and we they really stepped up this year. They really stepped up to they weren't sure on the funding. I think the transportation, Utah State was an extension office was heavily involved this year. Anyway, and they I think there could have been a little bit left over because they had a lot more jump into the education part of it too. So It is just a one day event. Right? No. It went through they had the Utah theater, had a movie Oh, no. I know. Two or three days. And it was packed. And they had a you know, they think a three day, I believe. So everything's free of charge. It's just Yep. Yep. Community. It's a it's a community community celebration for that, you know, that huge industry that's built this valley. So

I've got them at 12,000 thinking of of the issues Bruce raised,

but I'm flexible. I had them at ten, but based on your input, I'm willing to do whatever you

say. I'd if we can dump bump it up to about 14 or something like that, or thirteen, fourteen, that'd be I think they would be elated, and and they will work with whatever we give them. And they're they're just very effective. Yeah. Very effective.

So, 14,000? I'm not sure if you got Everyone? Okay.

14,000? Mhmm. The next one is well, the next two are from the same entity. It's applications twenty one and twenty two, Cache Valley Center for the Arts.

K. So one is facilities maintenance. That's the one fifty. Right? And then one is their operating Operating. Operating support. And and I funded both of them at a 100%.

Yeah. But I put them there too. They're they're a been a great resource

over the years. I'd I'd funded both of them too. Bruce has something he would like to say. Oh, I'm on the board. Oh.

Something else. Yes. I thought they re now let me say one thing here that applies to a number of the other applications I got after Wendy. Because the financial statements and the tax return are old. That didn't bother me because I'm on the board and I know what the more current financial statements say. But a number of the applicants have financial statements from '23 and '24, but not '25, and no no tax returns from '25. I think that's crazy because we need we want to know what they're doing currently. Mhmm. Yeah. And Festival Opera was one of them. Mhmm. And I'm not on their board, so I don't know what the most recent year showed. But if you look at what they presented, what they presented was '23 when they win the whole million dollars and '24 when they win the whole million dollars. And that doesn't reflect well. I think I would have put if I prepared that application, I would have put more current financial statements to show that we are doing better. And I would suggest, Alma, in the future that you make that indication in the applications as they pick them up. We want a current financial statement even though it may not be audited or even though it may not be the current tax return. I understand your accounts might bury some weight and not be able to finish it in time to turn in the applications, but something more current ought to be there.

Thanks for that feedback.

My funding levels are a little lower. Because it is the insight that we really want. What's requested?

What it what is requested, it I think it is requesting the most current, but I think maybe some stronger language, and I can work on that verbiage and then send it out to you. I know in the past, you you, Bruce, had mentioned that not everybody has an audited statement, and so we changed the verbiage on that. So I could suggest some verbiage. I could work with the auditor, Matt Funk, and get some verbiage and then send it out to the board and see so we can we have until, you know, the end

most recent tax return and your most recent financial speed statements, even though they may not have been

Yeah. Caught at the Yeah. I think I think when this application is due, mostly for barely finishing that up for 2025. I know I'm not even done yet. Anyway but yeah. But we we need to have those numbers. Particularly, the offer could be interesting to know where they're at. K.

Yes. Definitely.

So Damon

had a different suggestion? Yeah. I'm just these the numbers are a a good bit higher, I think, than what we did last year here. I'm I'm open to that great organization. I I love the way that they serve multiple other entities. It's a capacity building exercise, especially with some of the building rehab stuff. I and and I'm totally happy to be outvoted on this, but but thought I'd throw that out there. I'm

bit of insight to let you know though that they remember, we did not have the opera there last year. And so the the group went to the three theater companies and said, could you put together something for this summer? And then they used some of these operating monies to help them hold their, the extra shows that they put on to hold them in a theater. And so they they do spread that around.

I think I think the rest of us were fine with the fully funding request fully funding the request.

So By virtue of the vote, please fully Fully funding the request.

Participating with a lot of other funds.

So the next highest is number 62, Nibley City. This is the, children's theater presentation.

Fully funded. Fully funded. Yeah.

2,500? Yep. Next one is number 68.

68.

68Paradisetown. This is for baseball and softball fields. Yeah. I

mean, I on my back, because I ain't go out to Trout Berry Days, and it's delicious. So I I I put theirs at 16,000 just but I I'm fully funded. Fully funded. I'm fine. Fully funded. Full for me? Fully funded. Yes. 16,500.

$16,515 is what they ask you. Right? That's you know, you printed that so small. I know. Can we make these a little bigger? I am so sorry. I You can't read the braille version. What do you

So let's not have nice time. I know. I need to read my glasses this time.

So fully fund for that one? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Go ahead.

The next one is, seventy six Summerfest Arts Fair.

I fully funded.

Me too. Me too. Yeah. Huge participation.

Oh, yeah. That place is crowded all the time.

I think their move has been great. It's really opened things up and a lot more places for everything. It's really neat.

23,000.

Yes. Yes. Boyfriend.

The next one is number 80, Utah Festival Opera and Music Theater.

Comments I previously made, I'm fully funded this one.

I put it at 400. I put it at 400

myself.

But I think they're great too.

I'm happy they're back. I'm excited to see Yeah. This season.

And I I get And the restructuring. Yeah. It's a little earlier. You may notice the season's earlier because, they lost their slot that they've always had. Mhmm. Let's see if I can get it back in two years or run that can hop back in. I know we had a meeting with them on some board of equalization ish you know, some issues that we had. And it was extremely

productive. It was it was really neat. I think they came in with some and everyone left I mean, everyone left understanding, and they understand we need to change this, this, and this, and they're very, very welcome to it. It was a you know, they're they're malleable very malleable now, and it's they're trying to make it I think their ambition is really, really strong. And, you know, some other problems that we'd had in the past. They're just getting a good foothold. I think they're really on a good trajectory. So

So do you have a recommendation, Dave? The 400. The 400? That's what I Is everyone k. We go from opera to Barnes.

Yeah.

Number four, American West Heritage Center.

A little concerned again about the 100% funding here, but

That's that's that's what we pretty well a lot of it we've done in the past. They've they've kind of that's been a lot of their operational stuff. That's what what was our funding for that in the past? I could not find that for some reason. 01/25

there but they had a $6,000 surplus.

And so 6,000 off the $1.31 is the $1.25 that we gave a year ago. And they're I know they're they're just about getting that, you know, the other facility finished and and getting it going. But I in there, that's see, you're only the one thirty one. I mean, that's about with the new operation and everything that's coming on, I think they might they could very well

need that right now. You think they'll have increase

in operating costs? I think there will be a little bit, especially as they are bringing in a lot of displays and bringing in a lot of, new things that's going in that new facility. It's amazing too. So it should be done, I think, by the I thought mentioned was it August?

Totally finished. So Is that what we have to fund in the interim in the in between? Yeah. We do. The matching funds from the private donor? Exactly.

Yeah. My thought on this I I just think the application is not quite correct on the because they this they asked for this, and they say it's a 100% of their operating budget. I don't think we are actually a 100% of their operating budget. And I think it would show much better and give us a clearer sense of where all of this stuff lies if we actually saw the rest of the stuff besides just this this this stuff besides just this this this grant. I I had them at 01/25 just to carry on the funding from last year, but

Let let's maintain that then.

01/25.

01/25. Yep. That'll be fine.

Hundred and twenty five thousand? '25. Yes.

Next one is They their direct by the way, they just changed the directors, I believe, out there. Or they excuse me. They're in the process of getting a new director. They do have a new director. They do have a new director. Yes. Interim.

There was an interim, but I think he's the director now.

Okay. Where did he do you know where he came from? I don't.

He'd be very new.

So Yeah. He was new at the very beginning of the application process.

Okay.

Number 38 has been events. This is the fifteenth annual cash, Gran Fondo. Gran fundo.

I love this one. It's not a ton of money. They bring a ton of people, and it yeah. I fully fund. Yeah. Me too. Fully fund. I did as well. Yep.

10,000. 10,000. K. Number 45 is Logan City Parks and Rec. This is for their park and recreation, Kunzler Trail.

Remind me about that one. I that one I can't remember.

It's down on the south end of town. Yeah. Uh-huh. Kunzler Trail. 10th

West. It's in there joining all the, I guess, the trail system that's going back up to the east, and then they've acquired to the west doing all that cleaning.

By Trapper Park?

Trapper's up east, I believe. Isn't it? Or

Trapper's over

that way. Yeah. I I wanna say I I think this is all heading west too on both sides of the 10th West. Okay.

I fully funded. I just don't remember it. The Well So there is a trail that already goes a bike path that already goes to clear out to that West Park. What are they are they adding on and making that connect to some of the thing? I could I was kinda confused when I read the Yeah.

Paperwork. Did it say hang on. I've read that, and it

because I've ridden bike out there. I know it's there. Yeah. It's not crazy. You can cross over a tenth with something underpass.

I agree.

Go out there and search it. I fully funded. It's gotten better?

Yeah. I thought they were connecting it with Yeah. They're it's a it's a connection point, and I think it's even supposed to come over. Eventually, there's a split that's coming over to their new dog park and the other facility that's going on to the The the landfill. The landfill areas. You know, all of that's where Okay. I guess they have there's quite a a big loop and even, I guess, connect to go west from there. So Yeah. The total project budget was 2,000,000.

They 150,000. And they were, 10 foot wide concrete path with intermittent boardwalk sections are required to protect delineated water wetland areas in the trail corridor. Connects to the existing sidewalk on South, which will link to the future six South parking along the Logan River and then head north on 1900 West to Logan Outdoor Recreation Complex. The proposed trail is approximately 1.4 k. Okay. And this is the this is a quarter of the budget. So Yeah. I mean, they're putting in plenty of and and I think Logan is now doing their projects a little quicker since we had them come in and finish.

And you gotta speak a little bit for them. A lot of their projects are There's always a lot of players in them. In them. And, and then just the preparation and getting them all put together and everything. I think it they almost hit a different level of organization trying to do all that to get that money going. But we have had them come back a time or two to give us another year to finish some things and stuff like that. But they finish them. They get them done. Mhmm. And I think they've I think they use their money quite wisely, actually. I think Yeah. We got a really good park straightened. Access at Trapper Park,

midway between Trapper Park and Willow Lakes Okay. And and I don't know what the other one is. But, yeah, I fully funded it. Yeah. My question. I agree. Let's do it.

450,000?

Yeah. Next

one is number 11, Cache County. This is the Cache County Buildings And Ground. This is for us here at the Admin Complex, some power improvements.

I fully funded

that. I think I had a question as to is this is really like a a wraps

application? You know, it's affiliated with the the gardener's, you know, market and some things like that. And I I don't know. This this one here hasn't quite set with me. So The I was hoping to get I was hoping to get your So, like, I mean, I guess every time you come down here, I'm always

shocked that Yeah. The amount of people that are here. So I Just for new electrical wasn't improvement Yeah. Out there so they can have more people plug in.

I still start having the feeling that it's more like something that ought to be taken care of by

us as Cache County. That's what I thought too. I thought, well, as as much as I would love to push the burden onto wraps. Rather than go into

the this particular these kind of taxes to do it. You know? I don't know.

Yeah. But Is it is it are those outlets used for anything other than the farmer's market, though? I mean, I guess that's how we could

It's the only major event that happens Yeah. Right here, but there probably should be others that sometimes they've had the USU USU

back to school parties. Oh, yeah. They come and drop the student a two

back here. But they've kinda moved that more over towards the plaza. The plaza. Now we have the plaza. You know, and I and I don't know the I mean, it it it'd be good support for the farmers market. They've been here now for years, and it seems that this is their home forever. Yeah. And they don't charge very much for the boost space. So it I guess it just supports what they're doing. You're right. It could just be a cash counting expense of some type. But but this for this group with the and

then Yeah. It's Maybe come back. Let's just come back. It's not a big ask. I just didn't know if it was really something from that. So 10,000. We over fund everything. Yeah. What's been going on anyway? Are they, like, blowing circuits? Or is it I don't know. I didn't know. I hadn't heard about it until we saw the request, and I was just kind of I think I think they needed more outlets because they're running extension cords to different places and Is it an extension cord in an extension cord? I've heard that's really good. At work, they really like it when we do that. So It's safe. Yeah. Yeah.

So did what amount did you Fully fund 10,000. Okay. Yeah. And I'll I'll put it I'll highlight that one in yellow, if you wanted to Come back. Come back to that one. The next one is number 17, the Cache Pioneer Museum. This is the Cache Daughters of Utah Pioneers Museum operational funding. It's across the street.

I fully funded that. I did too. I had them at last year's funding. Yeah. Me too. Wasn't that eight?

That's where I put them. Yeah. I had them last year's funding was open. But I'm I'm not gonna stress about it if Yeah. If the majority really wants to go there.

I love how many volunteers they have. Those little ladies are really keeping that going. Yeah. I do. I I mean, you should just do it. I mean, I I put it in eight, but maybe it's just full funded. I mean, maybe we could keep them in yellow too just in case we have to but that's only a thousand dollars. So Going for 9? Let's go 9. 9,000.

Kathy said it. K. Hiram City, AJ Peterson Park renewal. Is that right? 41?

Yes.

So I think this is where we talk about the two projects for Hiram together in my mind. Yeah. Yeah. I put them to receive 200,000 between the two projects together. So I they had some really big asks this year.

My my thinking on this was fund the one they ranked number one at 200,000. And then the the second project's great. Queue it up for next year. Yeah. But but it's more than I think we can bite off in one year for them. I'll be with you on that one. Yep. Yeah. That sounds great.

Their second one. That was the AJ Peterson one. Right? That was the higher He's number one. Yeah. Yeah. He's their number one. That's what I had down. Okay. Yeah. I had him at 200,000. So I have him a little higher, but that's I had him at three, but that's okay.

200,000.

So number 40 at 200000. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. At 200000.

Okay.

And then nothing for 40. Right? And then nothing for 40. They can get that ready for next year, I think. Yeah. I'm alright with that. Okay. Yeah. I just said 200,000 between the two of them, so I think that works well. Millville's

Number 57 Millville.

Gonna give a 100,000. I had a 100,000 for that. South Park Playground update? Mhmm. I'd put a 100 as well. Yeah. They really do have a death trap of a slide there. They they specifically mentioned the slide in their application. I mean, back in our day, we called it fun, but now it's a death trap. Death traps make experiences. It's true. It burns it all.

The number of fifties never win.

Are we fine with a 100,000 down this end? 100,000 fine with Millville? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 100,000.

63 is Nibley City. This is a recreation events trailer.

I fully funded it.

Yeah. I did as well.

They do a lot of things in nibbling. I know I know they have a hard time moving things around of

different areas. They can share resources between events. I fully fund it as well. Okay. We're good on that one.

7,000

then? Yes. Yes.

Number 66 is Nordic United.

I fully funded them. I fully funded. They same. They take good care of this trail. That. They do a lot with, again,

a little

If it really wasn't for them, there's a lot of these, even the close trails and stuff like that, that they'd be in total dismay.

Mhmm. They spend a lot of time out there clearing those off.

K.

6000 then? Yes. 6000.

Number 67 North Logan City.

This is the Elkridge North Parking Lot Phase 2. I think we talked with them last year about phasing it like this, and and I fully funded this request.

I have to say.

They do need to do something at the Pump And Walk parking lot. So

Yeah. Overfunded as well. It's definitely

an issue.

85000?

Yeah. Yeah.

Number 70, Richmond City. This is, pickleball courts.

I had them at a 100,000.

That's what I I put a 100,000. Yeah. I think a 100,000 would be I put a $104.05,

which is the concrete and the lighting, but I'm okay with a 100. A 100,000?

100,000? 5 and that cuts A 105? 4 or five. A 105. For the light and the concrete. Oh, okay. Let's get that. A 105,000. A 105,000. Still, Oh, right now. Still, you know, barely well. It's about 50% of their project, which I thought Yeah. That's good. They're That's still they're bringing plenty. That's still stronger than most other the city applications things that we've had come in. That's true. So I thought I was pretty proud of that.

They did a good job.

Next one is Trenton, number 78. It's for a park restroom.

I have that one at full funding. Yeah. Me too. Me too.

35,000? Yeah.

Alright. That's fully funding the project, though. No.

Yeah. They were 87%. They have and for for a little town like that, that's That's huge. Still a big issue for them to keep and come up with the other 13%, I promise you. But Alright. Again, it's something for everybody.

That's nice. Yeah. Little towns,

they need that little bit of You have to do that. And it's surprising, especially in summer law. They go around to all of theirs. Like every those parks are just filled with family reunions,

77,000 last year for the restaurant? That's

it is Trenton?

Yeah. I think we we gave them 77. No. We gave them 56. They requested 77 a year ago for the restroom, but we gave them 56. Now they're coming for 35. So that's why I'm saying we're trying to build a project because we gave them 56 last year. They phased it. Okay. There that's what you mean.

I did not see that in the

Oh, $70.56. Oh, good eye. So what is your suggestion? I don't know. I have to look.

Number 78.

78.

Print.

I said 25. I wanted them to come up with 10.

My original was 30. But, yeah, 25. Well, they have you balance. Give them the 25. 25. Okay. Maybe see we'll see him back next year with For the past. With with phase three. Phase three.

So Trenton was 25,000. K. Next one is number five, American West Heritage Center. This is their programming capital maintenance request.

Where is that? I had them at 55000.

I'm at 50?

I had 50.

I'm okay with that. Let's do 50. 50000? Yep. 50000. Okay. 50000.

Next one is, number 23, Cache Valley Chamber of Commerce. Their summer citizen's fiftieth anniversary.

Can I ask something here? Because the university used to do this. Mhmm. And then they backed out of the chamber, took over, but the university now put in an application this year Yeah. I wondered about that. For the senior citizens again.

I what's going on? Is it joint?

I know I know someone that would probably enlighten us. USU asked 15,000 on this, but

Do you mind in do you mind? Do you mind? Yes. Yes. Could you come up to You bet. It is recorded. It's a recorded meeting, so if you'd come to the microphone.

State your name, please.

I'm Jamie Andress from the Cache Valley Chamber of Commerce, and, we do own the summer citizens program. However, the university still does offer classes for these summer citizens as well as Bridgerland Technical College and many other private things. So one of the things that that USU has changed and perhaps this has something to do with their funding, but they're really opening it up. They used to have, have it so that if you wanted to take a class as a summer citizen at USU, you had to pay a base fee that included parking and library and access to the Internet. And this year, is this the first year they've opened it up to be completely a la carte, which is also open it up to have more community members. We're trying to open the summer citizens program not only to for the people who come and visit, but also for any any, senior or any citizens of the valley to participate. And, so I'll just speak if for that at USU, but I haven't seen their application. But it does belong to us, the program.

Well, that was and you've done a good job. And I think we've funded there, but are is the university stepping in again? Are they No. They're not doing anything more than they have in the past other than offer classes for the summer citizens. Well, maybe that answers my question. And may and the lectures

they host the lectures under the trees out on the lawn, but we put it all together, take our sound system, get the speakers. So

that's that's what they're doing. So All the organizing itself is still under the chamber. Correct. They just have some supplemental They have have classes. That they offer out there. Yep. Okay. Yep. Okay.

What do you You mentioned that it's available to a lot of all the citizens here within the county also. Yeah. We're trying really hard to get that. Do I qualify as a senior? Every

there's no there's no age. We have changed the wording to be Same age, Jamie. Active seniors. Active seniors. I know, Dave, how old you are. Yes. That's true. We are the same age. College as a summer citizen. Okay. Summer citizen. Here in the summer. Yeah. We really do want we really wanna open it up and we've been That's wonderful. We've been marketing and advertising and we brought a lot of business support into the program that never existed in the past. So

they have not come to you and asked to collaborate with your visits or anything like that?

The university has not? No. No. No. No. They're doing their own piece.

Okay. Okay. So does that help? No. We appreciate it. Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Jamie.

So the USU application is number 82 if you wanted to see that one.

82. 82. 82. We'll we'll we'll come to that one a little later, I think. Let's let's go ahead with the the summer citizen fiftieth.

Summer citizen fiftieth anniversary. Number 23. I fully funded it at 85,000.

I said 75.

Yeah. I was closer to 75, but maybe this year fully funded and maybe next year we can look at that whether it's full. Well, this is kind of a special Yeah. You know, this is special celebration. And if you're getting and starting that new program by getting it out to everybody, I think that's actually quite phenomenal. So we'll fully fund it this year, and then it may drop a little as

programs change or something. Good. I didn't have a problem. Then we go for the fifty first. Right? Yeah. 51. Okay. So 85,000,

everyone? Okay. Yeah. 85,000.

Next one is number 32, Cache Valley men's chorus.

I fully funded them.

Agreed.

Yeah. Only 20% and

Yeah. That's a great invited, though. That's a great ask too. Yeah. $2,000.

Is there a Cache Valley women's course?

No.

No. Did you say 1,000 or $4,000? $11,000. Oh, okay. Good. I was I'm trying to see what 1,000.

Karnish. Number 35.

I had a question here. I I I funded them at twelve. You know, I just kind of but yet, I don't know. They could go a little higher, but I kind of thought that something like that, that the rate, the pace, and a lot of things, I think that you're looking maybe at a two or three year project as they go. And so I'm thinking maybe you'll let's get them going. Even if if you fund a little bit more, that's fine. But let's let's do an equal because they use a lot of their personal labor. It's and there's really busy out there, and so it's kinda like, well, we're able to get this much this year.

I said 9,000 for the backstop and 1,500 for the fountain, which would be $10.05.

Yeah.

And you said 12? I said I was thinking about 12 myself. That's fine with me. So 12,000? And and then let's just let's do it in increments with them. Okay. Very small little town, but they I think they could 12,000. We could help them along. So k.

Thanks, Dick.

Next one is number 364

We upped these guys last year because of the transition with the opera. Mhmm. So even though the amount may I I think it's still a little bit of an increase over what they did the year before, but prior to that, we were funding them somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 to 45,000. I put it at 45. But I took

the took the number of events that they presented last year. So they had four presentations,

and we gave them a $100,000. That was $25,000

per presentation. So I looked at what they were gonna do this year. And with all of the theater companies, I did the same thing. $25,000 per show. So if they did three, I did 75,000. If they did two, I did 50,000. That's what I did. How I did it.

And how many did they have program?

Well, let me look and see what I had them down for 36.

What did they get last year? I never read a lot of That's you know, there's 75,000,

which they have to be shut. Some of

the some of the applications, you know, it asked about, you know, that would they receive it last year, but they don't put the amounts. Yeah. And You have to go And you you go dig and you, you know, you have to go really digging for them and stuff like that. But I had on that one, I just had a big question mark. My big question mark was because last year's amount, and then it seemed like a pretty good steep kind of a steep increase in what we gave last year. So they had three shows.

No. Yeah. They had three shows, and so I said $75,000. I I like that. But we need to remember too, which I really appreciated, that the theater companies made a joint request for sound equipment Yeah. Which Yeah. Was good because they're coming together and working together. So we Share resources. That there Yeah. There is that other third request, which I believe

I funded fully. Yeah. Me too. They have an alliance.

I like I I like the I like the trash and alcohol. Reasoning behind that. I 75,000

is good for for me. Anyone else? Yeah. That's fine.

Number thirty six, Four Seasons, 75,000.

Yeah.

This is the

Number 60 is Music Theater West.

Same thing, three shows. I said 75,000.

Yep. I had 80, so, yeah, it's right there.

Keep consistent 75 for now.

So Music Theater West was 75000?

Yes. Correct. 70

Next one is Number 61, Newton Town.

Yeah. I have a question. This is so this is for sidewalk. It looked like and when I saw the request and I know in the past, we've we've we've kind of hesitated when requests include sidewalk.

I didn't like this one. I questioned whether or not it would be used. Yeah. I I don't know. This one, I They and they had a big request last year. Yeah. And the the pickleball

stuff in that, that is well used out there. Even though it's very rural, it is well used. But, you know, a a lot of the the bike riding and the walking and a lot of, you know, those kind of things out there, The open streets out there are just beautiful. And a lot you see most people when you drive through there, they are they're just everywhere

rather than concentrated into the, you know, that here's the park. Yeah. And I I know their city park tends to be the hub of multiple bike races. Yeah. So it's it's there's times they're pretty slammed out there. I I had it at 50. Yeah. I was maybe the worst 50 as well. Fifties.

That's what I was I put them at 50 to try to get them started, but I was it's just 92% of the project. I wish they would have come up maybe just a little bit, but it's kinda consistent with a lot of the smaller towns anyway. They can come up that 10 to 10 to 15%

about What they can all they can really require from Although you joked earlier, and that's kind of true, then those come back with the phase three.

Well, that that happened. That's how That was a little ice rink that they did. Mhmm. That was in stages. So

Bruce, you had 35,000?

Actually, I said 25. 25,000?

I had him at forty. Just we we're coming off a huge project out there for a really small community. Yeah. I'd I'd I'd love to give them something. I'd like to even if they were willing to look at asphalt instead of concrete, they might be able to do this much less expensive here. Yeah. Mhmm. And and so I think there's there's some substantial cost savings that could realized

here. And you were saying 35? 40. 40. You said 25. $30.25 and 40. I was gonna say, should we split those differences? 30? 30, 35.

That's great for me. That sounds good. Okay. Which? Yeah. What are we doing? 325.

I love it.

325. Almost like a chicken. 500.

Next one is number 64,

Put this at 24000.

Me too.

How much is it? 4,000.

Just a lot of people.

Sick. Sick. There's a lot of people that participate out there. Uh-huh. In the middle of the city. Add 9375.

That must have been paying for

Something some portion of the project. Likely. I had it at 12. I had it at ten.

So

I I I love the project. We we're out there even from the other side of the valley for for different events and activities. For for me, the I I this is a place where I want wraps to be investing very much. The specific project, as I understand it, was expanding their poultry buildings, and I love chickens. We have many of them in our own backyard. The tie of The tie of that's the specific project to tourism increases was was where I was a little bit skeptical. But but I still wanna provide at least some support for them on that.

They're And co I think there was some, like, FYI assistance. Econes. Yeah. The horse stuff and things too. Yeah. Yeah.

But that that gets a little more community events out there. I think we've been doing There's a fantastic facility, and and good infrastructure building we we absolutely should be funding and supporting.

K. The 9375 I had would fully fund the animal shelters animal shelters. They had a training area. They had animal shelters.

Right.

And

water services and electrical services. Their cash would that they proposed putting in would fund the water services and the electrical services. And then I the $93.75 would build the livestock shelters.

There was kind of, like, a safety issue on an animal containment area too on, you know I think they they were trying to do some of that. Animal shelter things. Yeah. Yeah. That's why. Still, like, 24,000.

The discussion is leading me to believe I was a little chintzy in my previous assessment. I I if we're getting up towards 20

I've never been able to spell that word.

Chintzy? Chintzy. I can say it. I can't spell it.

Should we do 20 then? 20? 20? Let's go 20, I guess. So 18 to 20 right now. 18,001. Let's put a question mark for now. Okay. Cathy says 20. Yeah. Let's go 20. Let's do 20.

I honestly I need to get out there and get more familiar with them. Yeah. I've been out there for a while. The number 64, and I believe Morgan Farm. Yeah. 20000.

Just put a question mark just to

k. I'll highlight it in yellow.

Interesting. That's a wonderful discussion.

Lyric? Yep. The Lyric is on Center Street. Right? Yes. Yes.

Yes. It's been remodeled.

I recommended 20. That's kind of in line with what we've done before, and it's all marketing, which I

Yeah. I I don't don't like. No. Yeah. Marketing is good, but sometimes fleeting dollars. In other words, you don't you leave, and the remnants of the dollars is gone with it sometimes. And you hope you know, it's just it's a hope, but it's it's necessary, but still just a

I think most of their patrons are probably the same patrons every year. No. That's a good point. Yeah. But but but they it is a great program.

Oh. Good job. I'll agree with On the 20? I'll I'll agree with you on the 20. I didn't 20? Okay. Disclosure, I am employed by Utah State University, but I have no direct ties or compensation from this wing of the university. And so I I'm just gonna

I'll I'll talk about it, but I'm not gonna vote on this one. Okay. My my only disclosure is my son's in one of the shows this year. Oh, that's fun. What show? Willy Wonka. Oh, that's really fun. They just did a season of it just now that it'll run again, during the season. So But I'll still vote on it.

He disclosed it. That's all that's required. I have no ties with any of it, so I'm happy to vote on it. I think 20 sounds Yeah. 20, that's a good one, even. With competitors.

Okay. Zootah. Yes.

Now this is up to 10%.

Up to the 378,000. Is that what the 10

This is the no. Up to 10% is the cap. Up yeah. Up to 10% of the 10%

would be

Two 94, four 86.

Four 86. Yes. Yeah. 29400486.

I had him at three not recognizing that. I have no issue with recommending the full amount that is permissible by statute.

So that's the full 10% though is the $3.70

It's the $2.94

It's the $2.94. It's the 294. Knowing 486.

Knowing that that 294 is designated, what would prompt them to ask for the 378?

Could we even Are they not known to? They wouldn't. They wouldn't. Probably we're just asking for the maximum amount thinking maybe it goes in the ballpark. And that's just that's really

it's it does state in the law that we've we've talked about this many times it was up too, but you can exceed it. Yeah. But, you know, that it's kind of encouraged that you you can give that much.

When that was created, the up too, is that just kinda saying

that there should be guaranteed that? Or You know, that was a that's a big discussion that we've had. Carl, I think, kinda thought that. Well, a lot of people have thought that, but when you get into it and their attorneys, they all they all said that it's basically they can have up to it isn't it even the legislatures, they said in their intent that we understand that it wasn't like full intent, so I think it was just an encouragement from the

But should we

But they We ought to give more than we cannot. No, you can't. You can't. We give more than 10%. Yeah. They're they're going through some tough times. Very tough times. So but yet I don't know. I I don't I I know. I I I just don't dare say much right now. I just don't say dare say a whole lot. But they're going through some tough times. And it's a you know, there's a it's well well attended. A lot of people, and it's by the parks and everything.

In my notes, I had made that I put that question, could we give more? And if we could, I recommended the $2.94 plus $25,000 94 plus $25,000 I'm glad you're here to give the history, Dave. You talked about all the absurd on the board. Yeah, it's history is important.

Right. And it's a there's just, you know, that's such a volatile enterprise, I guess you could say. I think it is. Because, you know, you you know, one thing whenever you're in the animal industry, you know, you're just gonna have a little there's gonna be hiccups no matter what you do, you know. Whether I mean, little things like that. And then health costs of the animals. Yeah. But in this case You know, it goes like this and there's just a and then they're very it's a very intensive type of of operation. A lot of hands on. A lot of stuff like that. So your personnel you know, there's a big chunk of their of their costs. What was that? 400 and I think was it just shy of half million dollars is personnel. Payroll. Which highly you know, it's required for that kind of a facility and stuff. So I I I was just told some things and I it just made me really worry. But I think that, I think it personally, I had that three I think I went with $3.25 or something like that. Three. That's about That's right. Versus it $3.94. Was it yeah. I said $2.94 plus 25. I think I went with the three, and then I had a big question mark, but I just I think that's I think there could be a lot of things answered in the next few weeks. Maybe even before we meet again. Thank you. So which I think it will be, hopefully, be really positive. So

Can I read the county code? Yeah. Sure. So county code, RAP zoological facilities allocate 10% after administrative cost to the Willow Park, Zootah based on an acceptable proposal submitted each year. The percentage will be reviewed each year. If less than 10%, the additional funds may be allocated to parks and recreation.

That's the

guidance. Can can I maybe propose, given that we've got things in process, and and, you know, read hearing that bit of statute, it's pretty it it it gives us clear ground. I read that or hear that as as 10%. Clearly, we could choose to do less, and and then let the council, when, when this comes before them, make a determination with the passage of time and additional stuff whether an added amount allocation is appropriate above and beyond that 10%.

My hesitation with that though is we should leave a cushion then to to give us, as a council,

leeway to to give. I I agree. My preference is to leave a 100 to $200,000 of cushion for the council, to use with discretion. And you

help? Did you keep track as you made your rewards on the spreadsheet as to how much you have left over? How much you were rewarding? I did not. Did anybody? I did.

Of course, you did. Of course,

you did. I ended up having 20% left over, and we've been pretty close. We've been really close to your numbers, I think. And, yeah, I ended up only allocate only awarding about 82% of what was available.

And you had this $3.25. $3.20 I would move right now that we set it at 320. Okay. Okay. Let's do it 03:20. Put it in yellow. Okay. Put it in yellow. And then let's Yeah. If we're not

if we've overspent or

Yeah. I I'm hoping. I'm really hoping that's there's some good

solid decisions that are made the next couple weeks. Yeah. Okay. Help can help out. And now you're saying with them, what what is that? Just like extra don't I don't dare say. That's fine. Because I think some things were said to me more in confidence on details. But, So I mean with them, I I think ultimately it kind of comes down to that question, if they because it Logan said he used to own it. They basically now, you know, ran it by itself. And it's almost like, if if they don't get enough funding and they and they can't operate, this eventually is gonna disappear. Right. And and that's a choice that we would be making by keeping the funding away from them, you know. So

I don't know. Let's I I'm hoping that they find My man. I'm hoping they find a a strong partner home that will will help strengthen their ability to, you know, to just, I guess, be a better, more efficient, and more business like suit. That makes sense? Not necessarily charging. Just something that I'm I'm hoping they do find a really, you know, good strong partner that'll help out on some things. And that might be cash counting. I don't know. So How's

everyone feeling? Do we need a break or we just keep going? Well We're up from eyeballing it. It looks like we're about halfway through. Yeah. Let's just keep We're good? Yeah. Carry on. K. Full steam ahead, Alma. K. Number 31,

Cache Valley Gardeners Market.

31. This is another marketing one. Promotion program. I did not have Remind me what that was.

I think it's marketing. In my notes, I have down that I felt like I noticed they hadn't used the full allocation from the previous year's funds, and and that they were I'd roll that over, but only new funds for this one.

The Gardner's Market, in the past, has had one application. This year, there were two. Two.

And but they're very similar, aren't they? I thought they're very similar very, very similar in in nature at both of them. I didn't fund the one, and I funded $4,000. One was the farm to the market farm to table banquet. Whatever. I have zero on number 30, and I had 4,000 on number 31.

I agree.

That's what I had, but I 4,000?

Yeah. That's similar to Close to three. So 4,000 sounds good. Anyone else? K. 4,000.

I will say that that that that supports a lot of of of, you know, backyard and small urban agriculture and some things like that. It really does. And it's the big thing, like you mentioned, is it it's become an event Mhmm. People. People come down and they they buy They come in like eight eggs. $8

smoothie All eggs drop, by the way.

You know, it's but there's but it but it gets them into Logan in the downtown, which

then it becomes a a cultural theme. I don't know about, some of the businesses, but some of the small businesses have, you know, stack started there and then became a a downtown location. Oh, yeah. I I think there's been a few others that have, you know, kinda grown from that. So it's it's provided another another form of growth for others too. Mhmm.

But it's also I I love these celebrations of harvest. And I think that when it brings a lot of the people together like that and and they overpay on food, you know, I think that's but

it again, it's cultural Yeah. And that's great. A lot of the growers come from out of the valley, I think. Like, the vegetable the produce growers come from out of the valley Yeah. But I think because they're faster, I think. But the when you come here to get, like, burritos and I that is, I think, all here locally, burritos and Ethiopian food and and, you know, all of the the yummy little vendors that they have. I think that's a thing. It's neat to see when

a family that has that little backyard that's together. The whole family's been participating and raising all these things. And then you see that these families bring all that stuff in. Yeah. It's neat to see that kind of a you know, that it's less about the

product and more about the kids. And I I think that's wonderful. Yeah. Well, should we should we bump on to a little bit? Because we're we're cutting them quite a bit from the rest. It's another one of those promotion things that I think people know about it. Yeah. I I know. It is like that. It's like It is. Yeah. You just know that it's there. Yeah. I so I think 4,000 is fair to me. But if you if you want to Let's do that.

So 4,000 on number 31?

Mhmm. Yes.

And did you decide on 30 or you'll Let me get to it. Yeah. We'll discuss that later. Okay. Number 48 is Logan Downtown Alliance. This is the marathon, top of Utah marathon.

I totally find it. Same. Yeah.

Yeah. Brings in a lot of people.

And I I I'm I'm for funding it. I just feel like it's kind of hard where a third of the cost is or the third of their budget is administration costs. And I a lot of this is volunteer. Bill. I don't know. Now we're talking number 48. Right? Number 48. Mhmm. And that is

Is salary. The salary of the of the director. And then there's another another event. I suggest It is the salary of what's that? I said I suggested 15. I had 14. Yeah. I said 10.

So I mean, we're on Why don't we do 15?

I only say that because on their next ask, last year, they got 20, and this year, only asked for 15. And I was like, oh, that's funny. They're asking for less than they did the year before. It says 20. This is on the other one. Oh, on the other one. And and so anyway, I just thought, he's at least being prudent on how much they need based on different things. But I can see that one at 15, and I think the other one, he was asking for 15, but it was it was actually 5,000 less than last year, which I thought was interesting. Can that make you last for notes?

I'm I'm fine with 15 on that one. Okay. Okay. Number 48, 15,000.

Next one is Minden City, number 55.

They've got some pricey projects that they've put in. They're calling them lots of phases too. This is, like, similar to the other one. I said 150,000 between both projects. It was nice.

This is phase two.

Well, phase three, I think, is in here too, isn't it?

I think you have another phase. Phase three of the Legacy Park is in here. This is phase two of the City Square Park.

Oh. They're not connected.

They're not. I

yeah. Yeah. The the the I mean, we we wanna be out there to help our small communities, because they're they need recreation projects too, and the tax base isn't there to support it. The flip side, we don't wanna export so much of the dollars that we make it difficult for larger communities with larger populations to be able to accomplish their projects as well. I I've had both of them both of these projects at 30,000, both the City Square phase two and Legacy phase three. But but but I'm I'm open to being persuaded to do more. And it's just yeah. Proportionally to what we've done for similarly sized communities around the valley between the two asks, there's a lot here. Mhmm. There is a I had I had 80,000 for both.

Come you know? Each or together? No. For both. Yeah. Mhmm. It's quite yeah. Wow. I

was looking at these little communities and remembering the comments that we've made before, and they've been repeated here that the bigger ones need to help the smaller ones, and that's the only way they'll get anything done. So what I did is I took the 5,000,005 that we have available to us for everything this year. And I took it times their percentage of the population that is in their community. That doesn't allocate anything to the theater or to the festival or or anything else. If you just took it straight across, Mendon would qualify for $52,500.

And but there's already that's already done.

There is a separate There is a population allocation. Population allocation. Yeah.

Fifty two five of the total, and I thought, oh, they're I mean, they've requested a half $1,000,000. Yeah. They they were shooting for the moon. Yeah. They're not afraid to ask, but that's way too much.

Mhmm. I'd I'd say keep in mind though, some of these projects are just a like, let's say, a pitfall court. So one time, once it's there, they're good for fifteen years, maybe don't need a lot. I guess, let's say if a small community kept asking for, let's say, a $150,000

every year, because now it's like They do though. Mend the dust. Mend the dust.

Last year, they had a big ask too. The library asked several years ago, they they were some big ones. It's just constant. Yeah. It's kinda like they just see that as a new revenue stream to create. But you do have other towns that you know what? They they go for they'll get really something really nice, get it done, and then they just they'll wait two or three years. But Lewiston doesn't ask until they need some. I'd say also. But if they're always asking, then I would agree that we should

So this is their number this is their number one ranked item. Yeah. 30 on each. Dang it. I gotta get back to the right screen. There's nobody else recommend. I had eighty eighty for both. I have 30 for each. So or but I'd be open to 60 focused on one. That's what it is. Oh, I had I was more I said a 150 between the two of them. I'm sorry. I

had a 100 Between the two of them. But allocated all to their number one. But I'm willing to go less.

I would rather almost just, like, give an amount and then allocate it to one project and Yeah. I didn't fund the second one. Let phase 35 come in later. $30.80

for the one feels like a middle ground

on across the different numbers that I'm hearing. So the playground is their number one, so do $80,000 For the men in the playground, phase two, eighty. For the men in the playground, phase men in the playground, phase two eighty? Phase two.

So that's number $5,580,000?

Mhmm.

And then did you decide not to

do the other one or what? That one's pretty low on the list. We'll see if we can talk about that one in a minute. K. Do you have a running total?

It's not an accurate running total. If you do take a break, I can Okay.

Adjust that. Maybe after we get done with this first page. We got plenty of money. Yeah. We got plenty of money. So then No. It's been in the balance. So you gotta have, you know, the Yeah. There's a lot of them that are both, but then there's we gotta make sure they're of the specific wraps or restaurant.

Providence City on this one, they wanted the whole thing paid for by wraps. Not the whole thing, but 90% of it paid for by wraps. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And they have plenty of revenue. Yeah. Those those are the ones that I tend to score Sales? Or take down. Yeah. They have sales. They play a sales tax that they generate in their city, and they've got a big population base. So

I I agree. Full funding is not on the table for me on this one. I listed it at one sixty, but I'm open to

I had one fifty, but I have one fifty

four eight, which is a 100% of the equipment and materials. I know. It's very sexy. I love it. I love that. One sixty. Or what? We do 1548.

1548.

Good.

No one can accuse Bruce of not doing his homework.

54800 on number 69. And 28¢.

Sorry.

Number 7979. Unicorns theater.

Change in that one from the year.

Theater by children, for children. I listed it at ten. I love the fourteenth. I fully founded that. I told I had twelve five. I'd be fine. I have neighbors that participate in that all the time. Let's do full. Let's do full. It's for the kids. It's for the kids. For the children.

15,000 on number 79.

Mhmm. Yeah. Anything that keeps kids involved in something besides video games and TV. TV. Cash Cash Community Vans. Is that the one that is the people riding Are you allowed to vote on this?

The ride and I perform with them, so I I can do this discussion, but I won't vote.

Is that the one that has the float? Yep. I love that one. I look I'd say we just give a couple $100.

No. No. I that that is huge. You when you you see them in the parades, little things like that and in other events, but it is You're on the wrong page. Rare. It is rare. You know, the cat when they come in the parade, it's just rare to see in other parades and other places, stuff like that, just, you know, the just that little hometown get together comes on the float, and

I think we just we need to keep that going myself. So We also perform perform during the year. It's the Cash Wind Symphony affiliated with USU during the school year, and then we just perform during the summer

with the cash community band. But it's a very visible theme. Yeah. I know a lot of people that they look for it. And if it's not in your parade

Which one do you go this will depend on your funding. Which one do you go to? Hiram or Lewiston? Usually Hiram. Okay. Then I say for funding. No. That's too

much.

It's hard to take the the bandwagon out that far.

Because we have a band out to Lewiston.

We have a band Bandwagon.

It's a Only one way.

It's the killing band. I picked it up and took it out there. There you go, if you wanna drive us. Okay. I say 6,000. Yeah. 6,000. Sure.

What instrument do you play, Kathy? Richhorn. Oh, wow.

Wow. Over 50, I'm getting old. Woman of many talents.

The next one is number 12, Cache County. This is the Cache County Trail and Active Transportation Program funding.

I I have a long time habit on this one of expressing hesitancy about funding salaries out of wraps. Me too. And I also have a long time habit of voting for this project anyways because I really love the trails. Yeah. I'm not sure how to resolve that, but I will probably register that concern and vote in favor again. I have it as fully funded.

I have it as They have another request. The other request was for trail maintenance, I think.

That one, I I got a question.

I don't

think they have

a second one. Oh, it's not them? It's a different It's a different entity. Cash the trails cash, which is the name of the actual division of the county, if I understand correctly. I don't wanna development services. Yes. Yes. Development services. And then there's the Cache Trails Alliance Alliance. Which is a separate non profit organization that also has a request for trails maintenance.

Correct.

I on the one hand, I'm I'm I I I part of me is happy that TrailsCash, that is part of the development services of the county organization, did not ask for extra funds for constructing trails this year. They have often had substantial asks in the past. On the flip side, there's a part of me that says, why aren't they asking for more money? We need we need to fulfill the grants we already have. Mhmm. Gotcha. Yes. Yeah. They have the That's shaped right now. Fantastic. Okay. And that's that's excellent because one of the reasons for doing the foundational salary stuff is that it's capacity building so that they can and some of the things we funded in the past was intended to be seed money so that they can go out for the big grants and do some things. Brought in a lot of money. And without having dedicated staff to go out and get that grant

funding, we would miss out on it. And so I think that justifies the salary. You can go broke

with grants.

I mean, because every grant Mhmm. Usually has something else to come in the back door to help out on the grant. Mhmm. Mhmm.

And you can literally go broke, you know, by by them by someone giving you a bunch of money. And you know what? When I say that, is your it's the other money, the matching moneys and everything, it's just gotta come from somewhere. And so then it's usually robbed from Peter to Paul. I mean, usually has to come from somewhere or taxed, you know, at another level. And so, you know, you just you gotta be very selective to me and get the grants, and let's get them completed and done before you have a a backload of too many. I always I always that's what I think. I'm just kinda of one of those I just you like to see them fulfill before and make sure that we aren't taxed taxed taxed on them. So

Is there a trails

coordinator position actually in development services? There Funded by the county. Funded by the county. There's two.

There's two full time positions. Two full time. Yeah.

Okay. They're funded by this allocation that we're considering now, not funded by

county operating dollars. Yeah. Correct. They are to work with all the organizations. Mhmm. You know, and, you know, there's make make sure that if there's DNR or something that's in an area they're working, that they make sure that there's a presence to those to those meetings to where, hey, these are our plans so that DNR doesn't kick or just change and push an unexpected trail or something or an ambitious way of doing something on our end. You know, there is at least there's someone at the table that's sitting there talking to them at those meetings.

Are they still doing outreach to smaller communities helping with their trails coordination? To make that trail system. Yeah.

They are available to smaller

communities. I I recommended fully funding this one. But the reason I did was because this is less than they've requested in them. A lot. Mhmm. A lot. I mean, 22 is $3.85. 23, another 200. 24, 300, 25, nearly a half $1,000,000. And now they back down Mhmm. And trying to fill their and that's why I recommended fully funding this one. I recommended full funding as well.

Mhmm. No. You're you're right. You're right. So Okay. That's all I have to say about that. Let's yeah. Let's I will let's go to full funding on that one. Alright.

$185,003.46.

$3.40 yeah.

Number 25, Cache Valley Civic Ballet is the next one. This is for the community performance and operating expenses, number 25.

You have to fund the nutcracker or the community will go up in arms.

Yeah. Yeah. I I put them closer to 40. I have to take it down a little bit. I just think that they're which is gonna lot for a paid organization that, you know, their patrons. It's It's just a business.

I had them at 25 as well. I think that's where we funded them last year. Yeah. I think The same as last year. Uh-huh. That's what I have.

I did twenty five as well. Do that. Something about the budget that they That's what I was trying to do.

The

Oh, my head is search option on. That's We'll get there. It's easier when The

Last year's application's on here too. It and and something that might be helpful as you're navigating, Alma sent out previously an email that had a link to a Google Drive thing that is an alphabet bull or and I'm clicking off of that rather than trying to search in the the thing to see. Me too. And that's helping me get to applications faster than I would get to them Yeah. Through the interface. And also that's why I keep staring at my screen. I'm not, like, checking emails or sports scores or something while we're while we're doing this.

And I wrote them in the book. So did I hear number 25, Cache Valley, Civic Bel Air I think we're all kind of wondering why we said 25000.

Yeah. And many of us said 25,000. Oh, I'm looking at it in in the budget. In the budget, they included 25,000 of grant money. So they've only budgeted 20 request for 50. It makes sense to me.

Their their budget is what what they'll probably get then.

So we'll fund their budget, not their request. Fully funded budgeting.

It it

I hope this isn't the quiet part out loud, but it sounds like the thing where you ask for more than you Yeah. Need and and and Well, and their budget shows that they're

budgeting for 75 $76,000 surplus.

Yeah. I saw that too. Yeah. Yeah. I think '25. 25,000. '25? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Agreed.

Number 42 is Jump the Moon Foundation.

And I last year, they were 20. I believe I pushed them to 25 this year.

Yeah. I think it was capital improvements as a big portion of their request. I recommended

15.

Yeah. What was their number again? Sorry. Number 42. 42.

Yeah. I was at 20. Is that what you said? 20 as well. And I pushed it up a little bit because I thought maybe my impression was that they'd expanded, and Yeah. They're they're kind of increased the number of things they're doing. And they're gonna go do more outreach to the schools. Yeah. The outreach part was a a impact on that one. I have 30,000. My original was 20, and then I have a little line through it and went to 25. But should we do

you're at 30? You're at 25?

Mother's Twenty, fifteen.

They're

25 is kind of in the middle.

Should we do 25? Their supplies was were for 3,000, and their capital improvements were 12,700. I recommended 15,000. It budgeted.

I I think that's a little low.

Just go for 20.

I'd go for 20. Reluctantly, I bet I would go for twenty. K. I'll go twenty. I'll go twenty. Let's go twenty. Twenty thousand. That sounds good. 20,000?

Mhmm. Next one is number 50, Logan events and activities. This is for the Center Street Giant Pumpkin Festival. Okay. Is this their number one?

Yes. They they do have three, I think. Logan events and activities does? Yes. Yeah. So is this is this another Logan City Center Street. No. This is the Center Street of Organization that was created for Logan City? Yes. Kind of. Well, not Logan

City. So I guess it's Center Street Merchants. I'll send it over. Yeah. Center Street Merchants, and it was kinda like the Center Street Alliance that was actually under the cash chamber for a year. But they've basically it seems to me they've created their own five zero one c three.

We've got another entity giving enough in the chamber or something. Yeah. And so they've created a Center Street, a knife Yeah. In order to direct more money to downtown. I I was uncomfortable with that.

Mhmm. All I know is I've attended their events, and there's a gajillion people there. Yes. That pumpkin festival. The pumpkin festival. You can hardly walk. There are so many people at the pumpkin festival. That's a big one. You didn't wave to me. Goodness. They're they're huge. Oh, I wasn't there.

Oh. But but it is a non profit organization

that's They don't have salary

overhead. But on the other hand, they're making good money. You know, charging for the space, charging for the events. So I'm like, I could see cutting it a little bit. I agree. What'd you put?

I

What date? Funded.

Oh, goodness. I funded the Christmas one, and I funded the pumpkin, the Halloween

harvest

one. I did not fund the other one. The art one.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't fund that one either myself. I I'd like to see what they can do with one event, probably the pumpkin festival, before we go all in on funding multiple sets of events here. So I had the pumpkin at seven I I would like to just see I'd set 500 for the conversation. Is there a conflict between the two organizations? Which organizations?

No. Not not really. Alliance. I I just think this one's more successful. The Christmas event is a lot How many get treated folks on the hear it probably, but I remember. The Christmas event was actually for downtown lights. There's some hiccups and this and that. The city kinda took it over and then handed it to this other group essentially. It's a good way to explain it. And so so the alliance is probably a little bummed that their trees were taken from them, but that's alright. Meaning

So it's a it's an area an area that is created different event five zero one three c's. Yeah. So that every event then applies, rather than that area apply for three events or something.

Yeah. And and and also, since they are applying for three events, but they're just events, it's it's kind of like we should almost just give a grant and say, well, use it how you want for your three events. Because really they're the application has different names of who's in charge of it. Yeah. Even though it's the same group.

It's the same group with three see, to me, it ought to be one. Here's one application. Rank your applications like we do with everything else, you know? Yeah. And Your plan is Actually, very similar to the downtown alliances. Their second request

is for all of the downtown events they do, the Easter walk, the the ghost tours. The there that one's all clumped into one and saying, hey, that's for all the events. And then this other group, they're asking for three different specific events. But the the art one hasn't been well attend as well attended. The other ones are large. Interestingly enough, those center streets just become this hub of events where that's where the marathon ends. Also, not on there's no application for it, but that's where the, I guess, the Latino festival happens there too. Yeah. But they, they're not asking for money, and it's well attended. Anyway, I kinda think we could consider them as, as one event, and maybe it's $10,000 for all three events. Good luck.

Alma can request that they they do that. Just do one application for three how many ever events they want. Yeah. Like, an op their events budget.

As I think about all three events do have booth space availability that they have to pay for. So they do have revenue streams that kind of pays for the event. Let's just say it's not a free community event. Say like the, I guess like, would be the downtown tree walking on that. There's no cost to anyone to do it, you know. But this one, they do have revenue stream by by charging for boosters.

Smoke that pumpkin festival is huge. You can't even walk down. Though I I say that, but then I also have to mention, say, like the arts festival,

they they they do bring in two stages. I mean, their their expense to pull off the event is pretty high. Mhmm. Yeah. So it's not like it's not an inexpensive thing to pull off. Kinda similar to the Summerfest, in the sense that they also bring in stage and music, but also charge for boost spaces. But I guess the guess the Summerfest just has a lot more space for a lot more booths.

So who makes up the Logan Downtown Alliance?

Anyone in the downtown who is willing to contribute. It's you could say it's all the down towners, but but only so. What the Dental Alliance does is they just they give a kind of assessment to all the down towners to say, hey, if you just like the cash chamber, the cash chamber is all of Cash County. And it's basically, hey, you're a business. If you want to contribute to this group just for support, it's not very expensive to be a member of the Downtown Alliance. It's like $3,400

a year for business if they choose to. So the people that will participate in the Logan Downtown Alliance Logan events and activities, the same group?

There'll be some that are overlap. I guess, I would be one night to pay to the Downtown Alliance, but, but I'm also there on Centre Street. But there's no assessment to the people on Centre Street to be a part of this, Logan events activities. They they don't have a fund structure like that. They're just they just do these three events. Basically, they own these events using Center Street.

So it's a smaller it may be a subgroup then?

Yeah. You could say that. It's really just an independent group that are just well, like, really, Mark Anderson, he he actually bought this or acquired this event that was happening in Provo, at, I say Provo, but, Thanksgiving Point. It was happening there for many, many years. And then Thanksgiving Point was kinda like, hey, we're gonna shell off this event. And he actually got it and brought it to Cache Valley. And it's big. It brings about 20 to 25,000 people in one day. A lot of out of tenors. It's it's people come from all over. It's a good event. I I I definitely support it. I'm not a part of it by any means. But, you know, like I've seen, the cost of the events are actually they they pull off a pretty good event. That's for sure. So I I I think but but but again, they've had three different applications. Yeah. So I think if we gave them maybe 15,000 for all three would would probably be sufficient. That's probably a good idea. And then they can allocate how they want, whether it's, like, more towards the Christmas event or more towards but the Christmas one is probably, out of the three of them, more of just a community event versus I think it brings in a lot of people. Yeah. All over. You know, 15 is probably too low. It should probably be

20 to 25 for our Friday. Okay. Oh my goodness. Wow. Like, second

Oh, yeah. I'll I'll move on to it. Thank you.

Connectivity had three requests that total three one five. And they were all about the same, ten five, ten, and eleven.

Yeah.

I suggested 5,000 for the pumpkin, 2,500 for the Center Street holiday, and nothing for the art beat.

Tara, will you repeat that 5,000 for the pumpkin?

2,500 for the Christmas and nothing for the Artbeat.

I think that's a little low. Yeah. I feel like that might be a little low from the amount of attendance I've Why why don't we do

I I I think why don't we do 20 for all three events and let them split up as they want.

Or you can just say I'd say I'd say we Okay. I'm a do I actually would like I'd like to get about 50% all three events. Yeah. Go to that that that that about 15,000. So you're saying

Okay. Five For all three events. Five and

But but I think I would allocate them a little bit different. I would let them allocate the three, I guess, or just I had originally, I had 8,000 on the the pumpkin thing, and I had the 7,000 on

I

had on them. It's just and that's 15,000. So

Out of the three events, the the art one's the lowest attended one. I think they're trying to grow it into something that

And there's there's a lot of these new ones. I would like to see I would like to see some growth in them rather than waiting for us to give them growth. Ones that survive, the ones that do really good are usually the ones that they're growing despite us despite the rap's committee, despite the rap's money. They're growing. We're not nursing And then when they then all of a sudden when that momentum's going, then when you put a little reps money into it, then all of a sudden if it really broadens out, then then it it'll have an explosion to it. That's really neat to watch. So, you know, that those first that baby years of going on with something, those are survival years. You don't want them just to survive just because of you. You want them to survive despite you. They're in spite of you. Not despite you. In spite of you so that you can then oh, oh, now

we see it. Now let's just Because that shows the next level for you. The community wants it. Yeah.

Yeah. They want something in that level. I've been splitting all their different directions there because I do have property off of Center Street, and and sometimes I've been a little bit of a naysayer because they also dump the garbage cans in front of our property when it's time to pick up day. And so I'm like, oh my gosh, you guys, like, don't put all this burden on me. And so I'm like, lower your events. Use the plaza more. But then recently I I thought, oh man, they're doing great events. You know, all the events. I mean, because there's more than just this group that keep using it. And so I'm like, okay. Let's do more events. Close the street all the time. Because I'm always concerned with the people who do, you know, business operations there that that does help some, like the restaurants, but it does hurt others when it's always constantly closed a lot during the summer. Like the pumpkin thing,

it is grown without us. Mhmm. Yeah. And it's it's became it's very, very popular. And so now they've come in, and let's let's give them a little bit. And I I think that I think the problem with the pumpkin thing is it will outgrow. It's just it's

it kind of actually has. It's already into the whole parking lot. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? It's it's it's much just outgrow. I I guess I'm saying too much about myself there. I'm It's like Possessed with pumpkins and stuff like I've complained about that. There's big Well, the event keeps growing, taking all the parking too. And it's like, well, where do you expect people to park? In fact, people are parking three, four blocks away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Usually. They're they're down by my house. I'm two blocks down and they're all rent. It's just they they can't park the event. But I I don't know if it'll ever move because, Mark Anderson likes it there. So probably stay there. That's big.

Anyway, it's a good thing. I I So is that eight recommendation. Eight for the Pumpkins. 8 for number 50 and For pumpkin? 7 for number For Christmas? Yeah. For the Christmas one. Okay. And I had zero on the art one right now. If that's okay, I don't know what's I'll be okay with that.

So number 50 was 8000. Number 52 is if I got the right one, was 7000.

Mhmm. Yep.

And 0 on number 51.

I don't know where they're at.

They're they're down lower, really. That was that was the last one on

the ranking, anyway. Oh, is it? The the Oh, yeah. Part is zero.

Yeah. They end up at the bottom number. Where's Christmas? What one does that mean? Fifty two? Fifty

is midway down the last page. I see that. 7,000?

Yep.

K. The next one is number 58. This is for a basketball

court.

I had I had them at $30,000.

I had 30.

I'm at 25.

I didn't fund this one.

They have a big ask on project 57 or bigger ask Yeah. That we we we That didn't score quite as well, but I believe was their first priority.

I I think the South Park Playground update was their higher priority. Oh, yeah. We did talk about that one. We did, and you funded that at a 100,000 on number 57.

That's what I was thinking. I put a 100,000 on 57, but nothing on 58.

I had a 100,000 between both of myself. That's about the neighborhood I'm in. But I'm

it it is tricky because sometimes I wanna say, well, let's they they have have two different applications. Let's let them put the money where they want to. But I think we have a compulsion to decide on the applications they send us, not on I I think we have to award to one or the other or split it how we see fit. And they can I understand they can come back in the field with council to reallocate later if they want to? But

Yeah. You you can't we need to manage them as the applications. And so you can't just say, hey. Here's a 100,000. Split it among your three applications. I need to know it on the management over the next couple of years how much you're gonna put on each one. So that makes sense. Otherwise, that's how you get phase three, phase four, and phase five.

Yes.

So And then you you start creating, oh, you gave us a 100,000 for our three projects. We can use it on whatever we want. You just use it on We need to make sure when they submit their application or their reimbursement request that it's under qualifying activities. That's why we need to manage them independently.

So is the consensus that this will not receive funding?

Can we just highlight it? On number 58? Let's highlight that, and let's kinda go through several of them, and that might be one that we come back to. And number 57, you you did put a 100,000. Yeah. Put a 100,000 on that one, but let's just let's just highlight 58 right now and Okay.

We might come back to it. This is another one where I took the 5 and a half million and took a time of percentage and it came out to be 95,000.

100,000 on that person.

Yeah.

Mountain West Street.

Number 59.

I fully

funded

it. I put 2,500.

I put 2500.

Yeah.

Mountain West Green. I I put all 5,000 there. Me too.

I I had a that 4,000. So

b where we could settle? Four b. They budgeted for a surplus of $14,000. Yeah. And that's why I didn't give them the full amount.

I what I really liked was it's only 1.5 of their hold. Yeah. You know, that they're it was it was a help and a push along rather than survival.

Yeah. I'm fine with 4,000.

Okay. Let's do that. 4,000. Yeah. Everyone?

Okay. River Heights.

Number 71.

I had a question about last year's.

Yeah. Are we filled in the same thing every year?

It feels like this We put 50,000 into this project last year. And so we need to get it done. I have it at 60.

Does that mean we're funding the whole thing between the two years? Didn't I put it at 35,000.

Didn't they come in? And switch around? And they switched it over because they The location. Then yeah. They changed the location. Location or was it

the the They did a new Bowery at the other park.

No. It was it was the same it was a pavilion. A pavilion. And it was moved from one park to another park. I don't remember the reason, but it was moved to another park.

And and the council was this year or last or is it two years ago? Last year. I think it was last year. So now we're coming back to this park

for another pavilion.

Oh, and I I think the other one that you moved it was it became unsafe, and they needed to replace the other one sooner than the Is it the one at Ryan's Park? I think you're I don't remember the names of the parks, but yeah. It was a I remember that now. Stewart Hill Park.

So the one that they took it to another another location, I think, was the Ryan's Park. Yeah. It became unsafe. Using your calculation, what did you come up with for the amount?

I I wanted to fund 50,000 of this 70 that they're requesting

because

we will have funded 50 plus 70 is a 120. The whole project is a 140, so we would have been funding 85% of the project.

But it but it it yes and no. Because it turned around and it went to a different pavilion. So now we're funding And that that we it wasn't part of it, but they got that one done, I guess. Mhmm. Now they're coming back to redo this one. So we're actually funding two pavilions due to some safety issues and I guess redistributing some money to a different place. So what did you recommend? I have them at 60. 60. Because they were about they were asking for half, but even if even if only half of that project, I'm not I don't feel bad about the half of the project either. 70. Worth that.

So if,

you know, if they can come up with the other 50%, I think, you know, if you fully funded at 70,000, I think you're you're fine. That well, that's what they're asking. Right? What do I got?

70. Yeah. Yeah. That's a That was their request. Yes. I'm good with 60. 60? 60. Okay. 60 is where I'm at. Okay. 60,000. 60,000 on number 71.

I'll let you I'll let you guys talk about the next one. Okay. I had somebody draw me a picture

about the unsafe conditions with the where you hit the balls and where hole number one is. I was like, oh, okay. Fine. I guess it's a big deal.

So number 74, this is the Birch Creek Golf Course safety netting project.

I have it at 200,000.

And this is to go along the homes there?

No. Along the driving range. So I guess if you're at if you're at at hole number one, there's a driving range right next to it, and so it's quite Oh. They wanna put a net between the two so they can extend their driving range the full length and then not hit the people playing hole one. Yeah. That net has protected people from me before,

So I'm familiar with the lay of the land there. Yeah. What they currently have,

it's not very pretty. Yeah. You know, it's just past the poles, big old tall poles. And so it's a a it's a it is a hazard where they have that driving range and that it is a hazard. And I'm I quit golfing years ago. Okay. Because last time I did, I took my wife. She was, now, almost nine months pregnant. Oh, maybe it's been a I hit them all. It went over and went right into the golf cart of, like, some guys that were sitting in there. It bounced around, I swear, like, five times. Must have hit every one of them. I handed the club to my wife. They all looked over, and they thought, we can't yell at a nine month pregnant baby.

So you played the pregnant card on behalf of your wife.

Well, her hand was out, and my hand it happened to be But, you know, I but it is a it is a city golf course. And so I guess that's what the that's part of their parks

Mhmm. Program. I don't have that note in front of me. What were they paying? What's the total cost of that? $2.40.

The total cost? They want 80% of it, I think. Yeah. They want 80%, and it's $2.42 at 80%. I recommend 2 I had 200,000. I said 200,000. Looks like that's the consensus. Let's go with that. I'm a little lower than that, but I'm fine with that. It's it's their number one request. Yeah. It's Yeah. A a yeah. They don't have a lot of other stuff they're looking for. 200,000?

Yes. Yeah. And for the size of that city, they're not Yeah. They're not really over asking in a lot of ways, you know. Yeah. And they do finish things. I will say that. Boy, I remember money went up a little bit. Boy, they jumped right in it. It's green and go and spent that year. It's green and go and spent that year. It's green and go and spent spent that year. It's really good at that.

Number 77, the Chamber Music Society.

Time for what we found on

them. 6%. Their budget is 6,000. I have it at 4,000. I have it at 4,000. I think they're historic from their historic requests.

Trying to find what I have here. Let me see here. Did you do four? I'm buying four. Yeah.

4,000.

4,000 for number 78.

Yeah. 77.

Or 77. Sorry.

Number eight. Cash

I had them at 12.

Exactly where I'm at.

They're they're great and everything, but I I thought their costs, if I remember right, their costs were they were in line. But where it was going, I had a question at one time.

Salary was it for the artistic director? I had 10, but there's no prior accounting. Yeah. Any prior year. They used the

money. At some point, I I had noticed that at some point, that has to lead to a zeroing zeroing out of awards. I don't know if they're at that point yet, but

but it becomes know what they've done. Mhmm. Yeah.

You know, and it's it is general operating support and teacher salaries, but I didn't see the detail on how much really

We have a 10,000. We have a 12,000.

12.

12,000. K. 12,000. K. 12,000 for number eight. For number eight. K. This one, the Cache County Fair Grounds indoor arena ventilation upgrades.

Last year, we funded a large amount for We did. Fans and ventilation. Is this part of the

cattle barn, and that was in the

Event center. They were the upgrades to the cache well, you got the cache arena Mhmm. And then the event center. And those other updates were were pretty well all the event center.

They've changed all that, and that's So this is a different deal? This is a different thing. Okay. And is this more, like I don't wanna sound overly simplistic, but is this box fans and opening all the doors?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Very much. Yeah. We've we do we tried doing a lot of that anyway. And that's what they're trying to get away from. They're trying to, you know, have something that's just a a lot more effective is what they're after. Which building is this one for?

The big the big The dairy barn, is it? Yeah. The one that has the cows in the Okay. Yeah. With the livestock. But that's just huge year round.

Easter number. A lot of small rodeo events and stuff with it all year round and everything. And that they're trying to they do have a a high issue of moisture, and they're trying to some get the moisture out of there because it is a is really affecting the exterior or not or should be the the interior and insulation, everything of inside. So they're they've they've gotta get ways to get more ventilation going. I had I didn't let's see. I don't think I had them at full funding.

I had them a 100,000. I had a 100,000.

That's what? 75.

I had a 105, but $100,100 thousand's good.

I had I had not funded this given the magnitude of the other of the water project, but I'm open to putting something there for them.

Let's do it. Discussed. A 100? 100? I have been in some of the buildings. 100. They do get a little hotter.

16.

K. It's growing.

Growing so much. The next one is number 29, Cache Valley Cup.

We fund them last year?

We did, but I don't remember what.

So Isn't this the one that they didn't ask last year, but the year before they did? Did they skip the year? I got it right here. Oh, sure. But if I recall, is it is it a multi day event?

Yeah. It's that one in that they just cook all the soccer players. Yeah. Play at two in the afternoon.

For me,

I had them at five thousand, but That's what I did. You know, just a half. But I'm fine with five thousand. It brings a lot of people in. My kids are pretty It does. Kids from Idaho Falls and American Fork. So

I think last year was their first year, so this is their second year.

Five k okay?

Yeah. Okay. 5,000 on number 29. 5,000.

I think they use they use about every facility in the Valley Mhmm. For that event.

You know? Yeah. I I it is quite big. And it doesn't the thing I like about it being an overnighter is that you tend to get people who will stay. Yeah. They're eating here.

And then they buy real. I've been Shakespeare, 53. Everyone good? We're still good? Don't need a break? Okay. 53 Logan Shakespeare, youth Shakespeare, rent help.

I recommended fully funding. I

funded. I did too. Okay. $5,000

fully fund on number

50. 53. The only question I had was I didn't is it growing? It seemed to be

Their participation

Yeah. I didn't know if they're I didn't I didn't see I was a little worried about it not growing, but I hadn't still hadn't fully funded. So and the reason they had fully funded was because of

the Is that you? Yeah.

Oh, we have a representative here from the Logan Youth Shakes. I just I had fully funded. We're just like full time. Because I you gotta have something for everyone and Are you that's another thing Is your tenant is your is your membership growing or the participation? Could you come to the the microphone and state your name, please?

I'm Jo Leary. I'm the executive director. It fluctuates a lot. Unfortunately, because we're a youth program. People age out. And so we've been trying to grow, but, also people, like, go off and go to college, which is great. We love that. One of the things that's a benefit of this is all of the rent money that we're asking for is going to Cache Valley Center for the Arts. So it's going to another group that, also benefits the Valley. So we'd love for it to grow. We're working for it to grow. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. We're doing Hamlet right now, which doesn't bring in a lot The next show is gonna be a comedy, so likely better for some younger actors. Any other questions?

I just I just look you know, I was looking at the Yeah. It just kinda seems to be, you know, kind of level.

Yeah. So keep working on it. Thank you. And thank you for your support. We've really appreciated it. Thanks for what you do. Thank you.

Number 65, Nora Eccles Harrison Museum of Art. Is this the, like, Sasquatch tales? Oh, the lure the lure and the lure of the West?

The lore. Lure lure.

Sounds like Lure antler. Lure antler. Yeah. That.

This lives in a totally different part of the university than where I live, and so I feel comfortable stepping in on this one. The thing I really like about the applications that we're getting from the NEMA, is that instead of just saying we want operating costs to support our general museum programming, but they say, alright. This year, we're gonna do this. And it's a specific event, and they can use it to draw, and and there's a clear value add for a program that that happens, and they do something unique and different or at least have done over the last several times.

I I proposed 5,000 for this one. Is that full? I'm not That's full planning. I'm fine with that. I realized

that last year's application was for the same thing. Yeah. Oh, this one is a little

I think this one is a little different. This is a little different. The last one was like panel discussion? Oh, look. This one last one was about Sasquatch or Bigfoot

legends. Yeah. I think this is just this is just the panel discussion. Right?

Let's look. It's

Didn't mind reading that. No. It's saying it it says Nora Eccles Harrison Museum of Art support for

and then it drops off on on what last year's thing was on on the previous year's funding. I thought it was like It was a sasquatch. It was a big foot one, wasn't it? And it was like

Which actually, I did see it. I guess it was probably up for most of the year because I was just there a few months ago and saw it.

Kaylee Coburn came and spoke about it. I think this the the this is a standing exhibit. It's the the lure whatever. Learn lore of the West. So I think this is just a different

It's a different application?

Yeah. I think the standing exhibit is learn the lore, but the last year was year, it's going to be Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha.

It's the same exhibit, but it's a different panel discussion.

But it's the same But it's the same topic of Laura Lohr West. Yes. Yes. So that you can have something different under Laura Lohr West. They take a different aspect of it each year. Yes. You're saying you're saying it better than I. Thank you. Alright.

So I only had a had them at a couple thousand. I I got 2,500.

Their application's only a couple thousand. Yeah.

Yeah. I just I

I'm okay with 5,000. You're not okay. I'm okay with 5,000. But

If if we need to compromise and drop a little, I'm fine with that, but I'm perfectly happy at five. Yeah. Yeah. I I said it's fine to keep it at five.

Sometimes, like, though, I I do get you know, I wonder, it's like, well, Utah State, they're their own entity. They can do their own thing. But but, you know, they're supporting the arts and it does bring people to see it. It is an art museum. I wanna say it's heavily traffic trafficked, but they do events up there. There are quite a few events, actually, they do up there. So they're getting a lot of people in. I I would do the five, I think. Just

Okay. I think we've got four of us at five. K. Reluctantly. K. I think there's 55000 at number 65.

For 87 Wellsville City?

Damn. Is this same application we've had? It kind of is. Yes. Every year. I'm surprised those courts aren't done yet. Bless their bless their hearts.

Yes. And there's a definition to endure.

Well, but I I But if you keep coming, that's like the tennis courts that never done here. Yeah. But, yeah, I think but I think we have we've always kept the funding fairly low, so I'm not sure I wish I knew more of the history of why isn't it done.

Yeah. We've asked that. We've asked that several times. So because it

because it was resurfacing last week. They got the the foundation

you know, they got the foundation

application too. Mhmm. But, yeah.

There's 10,024, 70,000 and and 10 would be a 195 out of the two twenty.

So

this But we're not funding a 100% of the project. So this is phase three then. Phase three.

But that that be that's actually logical. It would only be 49% of the funding

on this portion. On this portion. On this page. Because of the other two. Because the other

I'm sorry.

I gotta No. These applications are not as well written. They're not as descriptive.

That's what we've we've given feedback to Wellsville about this. Yes. Several times, right, ma'am. Multiple things at Wellsville. Give us real bids and better content in your application.

Yeah. I think this is the, what, third year we've requested that. Yeah. Mhmm.

I don't have to do with that, though. Not getting because if if we I recommended a 100.

I had it at forty. I don't know if that means we're just gonna see it again for a fourth year. Yeah.

I just wanted to fund it and get it out of there.

I at some point, they'll they'll they'll make up the difference. Right? I mean, they're getting impact fees. They've got a lot of building going on. They they should be able to fund it themselves. Mhmm. Yeah.

There's new sales tax revenue coming in there now too. Yeah.

It's well Dave, what did you have?

I've got a new password to log in. I have I got logged out. I think hey. Hang on. Let me let me go back to that one. What what was our historic amount?

Yeah. Pardon? What did we who said how much we'd given him previous years? I had him at the number. 10,000 in '24, 70,000 in '25.

I didn't have any amount on that one. I just had one big question mark just because I was trying to read and trying to figure out what you figured out on those tennis courts. Yeah. I When is Wimbledon gonna happen? You know?

But we could 60,000? Maybe they'll finish it. Maybe that's enough. They can make up the difference.

Yeah. Let's give them I say let's give them the the 100,000 myself. Let's let's get it done. I understand. Let's get it done. Let's get have some faith in them and get it done. But can we give some feedback that,

this has been a continual thing that, like, yeah, rather be nice if we had a if they had a full bid, they were gonna come up with so much money. They just need this much from us, not just keep basing it out to the point that we just are funding the whole thing. It'd be good if they got some feedback on that. That would be

so a 100,000? Is that That's what I have. I I getting heartburn over that.

100,000 on 87?

I have some of them are not happy with that. I I won't write it. Yeah. I I I'm not sure I feel as good about that, but I'm happy to as a member of this board, I'm totally content with being a vote. You don't need it in unanimous. So if you happen to majority, then that's fine. There's there's four people in favor of a 100,000,

and and that's what should happen because of the What we think, though, is this is the dialogue that comes back to the council as we're going through things. Yeah. And these are when these things are brought up and we have specific questions, this is the dialogue that we and I share to the rest of the council on that final vote. Yeah. We but but we appreciate that. That's what's Mhmm. That's what's supposed to happen here. Yeah. So

What did you feel comfortable with, Catherine?

I was more along 60,000. I just feel like we're never gonna but, again, I don't you guys can you're four people. You pass it.

I'm fine with 60, but I'd I'd hope that we don't see them again next year. Yeah. That's what I'm afraid of. If we keep underfunding them, they'll just Well, but we're not really underfunding. I don't think we're they just need to put something in it themselves is all we're saying. Said that though because that that is the question is are we are we underfunding or are they just not coming up with enough? Yeah. Well, they said it was only half of their budget. 9%. But we put in the rest of the the other half in previous years is what we're saying. That's what I'm saying. It's like we're we're really just paying for the whole thing. Okay. I see what you're saying. I I I will say

if the trails proposal comes back again next year in the same form that it came in this year, I am voting zero. Not to be a grump or or anything like that, but the quality of the application, the detail, those Oh, from Malsville? Yeah. We we are in on the tennis court one. We we bought into it. I I support seeing it through. I put you on the trail. But but I I am I I I I guess we haven't had a vote on what will happen on the trails this year, and maybe it will pass. I I am I I will disclose that my vote was not supported. Mine was. But we gotta get some improvement and strength in these applications, from coming coming from Wellsville. I don't know that we have a great way to provide that feedback other than to say it here on On messengers. Right? Who gets paid to do that? That's a

Is that out of their duties as assigned? That's a So what I what I do is I will send out to all of the applicants. I can send an email, and I've done this in the past, that the council or the the board has provided feedback. Please listen to the to the recording. Yeah. That's how I can get the feedback. Do

you wanna send a message to Wellsville by not by, terribly cutting this request then?

Well, that that was my original recommendation on the tennis courts, but I can see this board has moved past that, and I'm not gonna do a sticking point for a majority of the board getting to where where the majority wants to be. The the trails application was very vague. Yeah. Very vague. I I don't yeah. We can get to that one in a minute. We'll we'll hit trails. Yep. So I don't I don't wanna hear any talking here, but

I'm I'm with you guys on seeing the trend tennis court through. Let's see it through. I'm I'm still in favor. Give him a 100,000.

Let's get that Bruce, you're in a group that's in

four. I think you have four votes and a 100,000. We'll fully fund it. I was going down, but now I'll go back up. But then but it's then fully funded and get it done.

Okay. Well but I guess with that conversation with trails, if if that's one I I I do not want to fund the trails. It's just we wanna put trails somewhere in our city. Yeah. It that is not the application. Done, and then, we can unfund that and let them strengthen that application in the future. We we gotta have a stronger application on the trails. We'll not have that zero. Yeah. That's good. Myself.

Sure. Yeah. I don't want to put trails. K. Hundred Thousand then? Are we okay? Hundred Thousand on number 87.

And I guess we'll we'll address the trails when we get there. Some of them are not happy for that. They're third from the bottom. So Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's why they're down there because Next one is

number 26, Cache Valley Community Theater Alliance. Bruce already alluded to this.

Oh, is this the the the shared sound system? Yes. Yeah. I funded it at 60,000.

Let's do that. Or, actually, it's 6,613

and 4¢. And Just kidding.

Not a sense.

Quick question. I I grief. I had a grumpy, oh, the cyclone.

I was grumpy.

Is there is all of that funding for the shared sound system? And if not, do we really wanna put funding into an umbrella organization for the theater companies as opposed to putting it into the theater companies themselves?

K. He'll go ahead and you can answer that. Can you It is. And they have

it is for their sound system and for an expanded sound system. So that if they have conflicting dates of use, they can divide it and use it between two production, the basic sound system does not provide enough for a larger production. Okay. And so, yes, they will share it all. They all have all joined in the application. I think it's great. They you know, somebody present up in Skyview High School. The Skyview High School sound system does not Where is have what they need.

Where's this equipment housed? Like, where do they keep it? Is it at the Galnetka's Theater that it's kept? Or I think

that's fine. That application. Oh, sorry. What was that? Please come to the microphone and state your name, and thank you.

My name is Dakota DeWol, and I'm the secretary for the Cache Valley Community Theater Alliance. Our organization is a new organization. We're trying to build collaboration and shared infrastructure for the three different theaters. So we are separate and isolated from each theater to prevent conflicts of interest or bias towards one company over another. And right now, our intent, we have a member of our board who's willing to house that equipment in some personal storage that they have available. So And and this stuff is probably used all the time for almost every show that's happening. Every production needs microphones. It is the most critical component of quality of production is the sound. And so I thought the actors were. If you can't hear all the actors. Ears. All these ears. Well, if you can't hear them If you can't hear the actors, then all of their efforts go to waste. So that's why we want good sound. I got it. Good. This equipment that we have available is aging out. And as Bruce was mentioning, there are limitations on how much we can cover. What the theater companies will do most often is either share mics in between the course of the show, and that rapid transition of a microphone has a high risk of damaging the equipment. And so the best course of action is to have a microphone per person who needs to be mic'd, and that's what we're trying to do with this request.

And so but, like, this is something that's always been independent. Like, so let's say the Utah Perfestival companies using, the Ellen Eccles Theater. The Ellen Eccles Theater never provided this type of equipment,

I guess. They have some equipment available. I'm not sure at the Eccles if they offer microphone specifically. They will have, like, a console available if you're renting their space. Yeah.

But it's But it's just I'm just asking. I've just never known how that's actually handled. That's Yeah. It's typically brought in private by Up to now, you've rented the equipment. Correct? Correct.

Okay. So this organization that's newly created Yep. They get this funding, they get all this equipment. Are they do they charge all these other theater companies?

Our intent right now is not to charge rental fees to the companies. So that that will be available for for use for for those companies. Yep. As well as the children's programs for both Music Theater West and Cache Theater since they're doing children's programs this year. That's

that's a to me, that that is a good utilization of somebody. Smart. Yeah. Exactly. Right there. I think that's that's that's Consolidating resources. They've come together and they work together. And you need to know too that as they schedule, they try to schedule so that they don't Overlap. Run over the top of each other. Right. They they want to cooperate with each other. That's the biggest reason for the modular

structure of this request is that the children's camps are the most likely to overlap with the adult productions because the children's camps have more flexibility. Usually, the adult productions are limited by the availability of the space that's being rented, whether that be Skyview or the Eccles or one of the theaters on Center Street. Mhmm.

Excellent. Well, that's cool. I recommended fully funding this one. I like this project. Yeah. I did too. And that was a format because I joked earlier that we said 60, but it's actually 60,615.

I'll recommend that Bruce is telling the truth.

All funding, Alma.

$6,006.13. Yep. Alright. On number 26. Number 34, the next one is the Cash Youth Orchestras.

Cash Youth Orchestras.

I recommended 7,500.

I had a I

had them at six, but that's

7,500. Can tell who's the music that they were going to be. I was at four. I I'm at three. I had them at four? What? We've historically funded them. In in the last years. Four years, we went 0, 1,000, 3,000, 5,000 Yeah. Has been the trajectory. Yeah. They do some cool stuff. I know some young people who who work with them. Are they growing? Yes. Yeah. Sure.