RAPZ Restaurant Tax Board - Full Meeting 04-24-2026

green. We're good. Okay. Uh today's agenda is we'll go ahead and review all the applications. Um and we've set it up a little differently uh as we determined in the last meeting. And we're going to cruise today. We're going to do this efficiently and thoroughly, but we're going to cruise.

»Um and uh and then we'll we have lunch coming in uh close to noon. Yeah. After this, so the hunger can can push us to go even faster. But we'll go ahead and and turn the time to Elma as uh we get started with um separating these with the rankings. We're going to go in the rank order of those that were ranked the highest. Um and discussion will go in the order of of the ranking that was given to them.

»Okay. Before you start into that, I sent out the minutes.

»Um

»Oh, yes. Thank you. Um in our LA in the email that we got from Elma, uh what day did you send the Elma? I've got my email up here.

»I don't remember.

»Alma sent us the email a couple of weeks ago about um from the minutes from our last meeting. I'll accept a motion to approve those minutes.

»So move

»and second.

»Okay, we have a motion from Mr. Cook and a second from Mr. Needam. And um any discussion on the minutes? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. All those in favor say I. I. Thank you. Um and then uh we don't really have a formal agenda to approve just going through the the application. So that we'll just move ahead with the rest of the meeting. Thank you.

»Okay. So we we had another meeting on March 13th and we went over the overview.

»So I don't want to spend a lot of time on that. just uh by the end of this meeting, we will go through and double check and make sure that the recommendations are correct so that that can be passed on to the council. Um and and then we'll just have kind of a followup after you've finished uh just get some feedback on uh future recommendations on how to proceed um for next year. So we can go ahead and and get started with the highest to the lowest score. Each each application was scored by each of the the reviewers and then they were um added together and it came up with the score for each of the applications. So if you want to get started unless there's any questions or Okay, I

»think we're good. Thank you. So the highest um application was um number two that's amalga. So we will start with that one. It's application number two. They're basically asking for 100%. And I understand that we want to help the smaller communities, but because they did not uh put in more of their own money, I uh would suggest that we give them something less than they requested.

»They were putting it in kind, weren't they? From what I understood

»there was there was and they do it they do it all by themselves mostly. I know that

»but uh

»I had that same feeling I I was thinking about that's about 70%.

»I in the same vein um Bruce I said 12,500 I mean it's not a big ask that they had asked for but also they're small municipality so they do have to have some funds that they've raised on their own. I I I have it at 1400, but I'm good with 1300, 1250, wherever you want to go.

»Yeah. Wait, wait,

»wait. 13,000.

»Sorry. 13,000. It's not 1300.

»I'm only off by a factors 10.

»Just a little bit.

»It's an early

»It's early. It's early.

»You really tightened up the news.

»I had 7,500, but

»which could make it a two-year project almost. You know, they they could have if we're needing if we're needing something, we could actually rate that we give them like even a half now and then let them work through, get everything they can done and

»back next year. If they have to buy the equipment and then the labor is in kind installing, we're just making them hold it in a bank account for a year. I just assume fund them and and then next year if we end up say if and if if they end up making a big ask of us next year then we hold off.

»Yeah,

»I think that's a good suggestion.

»So the number um we have a number we've got 13,500. I suggested 12,500. We have a number of of half of the asking amount of 7500. Dave, split split the difference. What do you what's your motion? Well, I I was looking about that 7500. So, if we if you're looking about that 125, you know. Okay. Yes. 125.

»12,500. Any objections?

»Do it.

»Okay. 12,500.

»Have a big sale for the roof. And of course, uh, we'll have to remember this all the way through the process that we might get to the end and have so much extra money that we just

»so much. We also earmark where we need to maybe cut more.

»Yeah. Anyway,

»we got a long way to go.

»Yeah. So 12,500 is that one.

»Yeah. Thank you.

»The next one is cash community connections. It's application number 10.

»The interfaith uh concerts and events

»produces a lot of events for not a lot of money. Um I

»I fully funded that in my request.

»I did too.

»Let's just

»That's why they're at the top.

»Yeah.

»Yep. I think that we're good fully funding five 5,850.

»Lot of donated hours.

»A lot of donated hours there.

»Okay. The next highest score is uh 15. That's Cash County Fairgrounds. This is the water main replacement. I spoke with the executive's office and this is a project that um they' had some studies put into and it's a project that um is in kind of dire not kind of is dire need and we don't want to have a environmental hazard on our hands from from the discussion I had with them.

»There's a huge safety factor.

»Yeah. With it.

»Yeah. So I my I requested

»100% of the funding.

»So that's that's what I have as well.

»366,157

»Next highest.

»Okay, this is where we come in that they also had another application David mentioned earlier. Do we want to do those in in tandem or do we don't take that um just in consideration as as that score since that's a lower scored uh just take that as as it comes lower in the in the process.

»I'm okay just taking it in the process.

»Okay then let's just remind I think we just remember that we did full this fully fund this one.

»Yeah. Okay. I know a lot of cash counties they're they're a lot of them they're actually quite different too

»in their ass.

»So the next highest score is uh number three application number three American Festival Chorus and Orchestra.

»Is this the 250 America 250 one or is this a different one?

»40,000.

»But is this for their America 250 concert or no? Is this

»This is general operations.

»Oh, they're general operations. Okay. I recommended the whole thing

»as well. I did as well.

»Similarly, yes.

»Yeah. Okay.

»40,000.

»Yep.

»Yes.

»Number 14, Cash County Fair and Rodeo is the next highest score. This is the fair and rodeo enhancement. I think that's a very minimal investment for the not the amount of people that are involved in all that. and the what it generates even for the county and everything and the celebration that it is. I I had full funding on that one.

»Same

»75,000.

»Next highest score is number application number 27 cash valley um cowboy rendevous. think I cut that.

»I like this one. Uh score super high. I'd fund it at 18,000.

»That's my thoughts. I didn't do the full 20 myself.

»18.

»That's where we were last year, weren't we? If I remember, I had it. I was going to keep it at eight last year.

»Funding.

»Everyone okay with 18?

»Yes. Okay.

»Something for everybody. That's me.

»Cruising Association.

»Okay. They requested 40.

»Oh, same here. Yeah,

»they carry good uh cash balance as well.

»I was close to 45, but that's okay.

»Let's do 40.

»40 is what my recommendation was.

»I'm okay with that.

»40,000.

»Mhm. We've got three here with 40. Is there any objections on this end of the DAS?

»You mulling it over still, Dave?

»What's that?

»Are you mulling it over still or?

»Uh, you want to object or No,

»I I had it for a little bit more, but that's fine. 40. Let's go with 40 and then we can that may be a comeback. I don't know. Okay, I think we're on a consensus at 40,000.

»40,000.

»Thanks, Alma.

»Next highest is 43. That's Lewon for uh city park restrooms.

»I suggested full funding.

»I suggested full funding to 60,000.

»I had it at 50,000, but I'm okay if we end up at 60. It's

»only what 35% of what they need. I thought Restston are kind of important if you

»I had the full funding.

»I have full funding.

»Let's keep it there.

»60,000.

»Next highest is uh number application number 72, Smithfield City. This is their youth theater presentation. They had a couple of other applications as well. I suggested full funding on this one. $3,500.

»Me, too.

»Also, they've been pretty consistent even last year. It's they've done a

»I know they've done a really wonderful job.

»They seem to do a lot with a little

»Yeah,

»3,500.

»Yes.

»Next highest is uh number one. This is the Allen and Alice Stokes Nature Center.

»I have it at 30,000 instead of at 35. Great program. Good stuff. I think they got 30 last year.

»That's what I I kept them with last year.

»Yeah.

»myself, but

»I suggested 35, but I'm okay with 30.

»I had 325. I think we're all kind of in the same ballpark, so

»I'm fine with 30,000. 30,000.

»30,000. Number 13, Cash County. This is for the cheese and dairy festival.

»I had been to that. Is that well attended?

»Oh my land. Holy cow.

»Did you go?

»Oh, yeah.

»I tasted some of the cheese.

»Oh, but it was it was packed. And there was at one time they was they figured there was over 600 people just in the event center at one time.

»And they were they had booked 200 270 people that were going for tours, you know, in the whole gamut and the show that was going on and really that's awesome. And the stands were packed there and I just sat there and I was just I was real pleased that the

»and they changed it, you know, from last fall to this spring and it was just a

»You think the date chang date change is a good thing then?

»Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was a huge success and growing in the there's a lot of uh corporate involvement, you know, and participation there and uh I I think it was just such a it was a huge su success with this many people that were there. I agree with your comments, but as I look through their numbers, it seems like they budget high and they seem to regularly have cash left over

»and uh

»and the thing is it all depends on the corporate donor, you know, and we they really stepped up this year. They really stepped up to they weren't sure on the funding. I think of the transportation Utah State was an extension office was heavily involved this year anyway and they I think there could have been a little bit left over because they had a lot more jump into the education part of it too. So

»it is just a one day event, right?

»No, it went through they had the Utah theater had a movie night and it was packed

»and they had a you know they think a three-day I believe.

»So it's everything's free of charge. It's just Yeah,

»community

»just a community community celebration for that, you know, that huge industry that's built this valley. So,

»I've got him at 12,000 thinking of um of the issues Bruce raised. Uh but I'm flexible.

»I had him at 10, but

»based on your input, I'm willing to do whatever you say. I if we can dump bump it up to about 14 or something like that that or 13 14 I'd be I think they would be elated and and they will work with whatever we give them and they're they're just very effective they're doing very effective.

»So

»14 is

»14,000 you bet.

»Okay.

»The next one is um of the next two are from the same entity. It's applications 21 and 22 Cash Valley Center for the Arts.

»So, one is facilities maintenance. That's the 150, right? And then one is they're operating

»operating

»operating support.

»And and I funded both of them at 100%.

»Yeah.

»But

»I put them there, too. Um they're they're been a great resource over the years.

»I I funded both of them, too.

»Bruce has something he would like to say.

»I'm on the board.

»Oh,

»but yes, I they Now, let me say one thing here that applies to a number of the other I got after Wendy because the financial statements and the tax return are old. That didn't bother me because I'm on the board and I know what the more current financial statements say. But a number of the applicants have financial statements from 23 and 24, but not 25 and no tax returns from 25. I think that's crazy because we need we want to know what they're doing currently.

»Yeah. and uh Festival Opera was one of them

»and uh I'm not on their board so I don't know what the most recent year showed but if you look at what they presented what they presented was 23 when they went the whole a million dollars and 24 when they went the whole million dollars and that doesn't reflect well I think I would have put if I prepared that application I would have put more current financial statements to show that we are doing better. And I would suggest al in the future that you make that indication in the applications as they pick them up. We want a current financial statement even though it may not be audited or even though it may not be the current tax return. I understand your accountants might some weight not be able to finish it in time to turn in the applications, but something more current ought to be there. Thanks for that feedback.

»Our funding levels are a little lower,

»but what's requested?

»What What is requested? It I think it is requesting the most current, but I think maybe some stronger language and I can work on that verbiage and then send it out to you. Um, I know in the past you you Bruce had mentioned that not everybody has an audited statement and so we changed the verbiage on that. So I could suggest uh some verbiage. I could work with the auditor Matt Funk and get some verbiage and then send it out to the board and see so we can we have until you know the end of the year. So,

»your most recent tax return and your most recent financial statements, even though they may not have been

»Yeah. I think I think when this application is due, most fairly finishing that up for 2025.

»I know. I'm not even done yet.

»Anyway, um but yeah, but we we need to have those numbers particularly offer. It' be interesting to know where they're at.

»Yes, definitely. So

»Damon had a different suggestion.

»Yeah, I'm just these the numbers are a good bit higher I think than what we did last year here. I'm I'm open to that. Great organization. Uh I love the way that they serve multiple other entities. It's a capacity building exercise, especially with some of the building rehab stuff. Um I and and I'm totally happy to be outvoted on this, but but thought I'd throw that out there. One bit of insight to let you know though that they um remember we did not have the opera there last year. And so uh the the group went to the three theater companies and said, "Could you put together something for this summer?" And then they use some of these operating monies to help them hold their uh the extra shows that they put on to hold them in a theater. And so they they do spread that around.

»I think I think the rest of us were fine with the fully funding request fully funding the requests. Um so

»by virtue of the vote please

»fully funding the request

»for both of the um cash arts.

»So 21 at 100,000 22 at 150,000.

»Yes.

»It's still relatively small compared to their total what they're dealing with. They're not asking like you know the 100%. They're they're really quite small. They are participating with a lot of other funds. So the next highest is number 62, Nibi City. This is the uh children's theater presentation.

»Fully funed.

»Fully fun.

»Yeah.

»2500.

»Yeah.

»The next one is number 68.

»68. Paradise Town. This is for um baseball and softball fields.

»You know, I'm always impressed. Paradise does a lot of fundraising within their community.

»They do.

»And I mean, I on my back because I go out to Troutton Berry Days and it's delicious. So, I I I put theirs at 16,000 just but I

»I'm fully funded.

»Fully funded. I'm fine. Fully fun.

»Full for me.

»Fully funded. Yeah. 16,500.

»16,515 is what they ask.

»You write this. You know, you print that so small.

»I know. Can we make these a little bigger?

»I am so sorry. I

»can't read the brail version. What do you

»have? I know. I need to bring my glasses this time.

»So, fully fun for that one.

»Yeah.

»Okay. Okay. Go ahead.

»The next one is um 76 Summerfest Arts Fair. I fully fund it.

»Me too.

»Too.

»Yeah.

»Huge participation.

»Oh yeah, that place is crowded all the time.

»I think their move has been great.

»It's really opened things up and a lot more places for everything. It's really neat.

»23,000.

»Yes.

»The next one is number 80. Utah Festival Opera and Music Theater.

»I have comments I previously made on fully funded this one.

»I put it at 400. So,

»but I think they're great, too.

»I'm happy they're back. I'm excited to see

»Yeah.

»this season. And I I

»restructuring.

»Yeah. And it's a little earlier. You may notice the season's earlier because uh they lost their slot that they've always had.

»See if I get it back in two years around that can hop back in.

»I know we had a meeting with them on some board of equalization issu, you know, some issues that we had

»and it was extremely productive. It was it was it was really neat. I think they came in with some tension and everyone left un I mean everyone left understanding and they understand we need to change this this and this and they were very very welcome to it. It was it was a you know they're they're malible very malible now and it's they're trying to make it I think their ambition is really really strong compared to you know some other problems that we've had in the past and just getting a good foothold. I think they're really on a good trajectory. So, do you have a recommendation, Dave?

»The 400.

»Is everyone okay with that?

»Yeah. Let's do that.

»400,000.

»Yeah. 400,000.

»Okay. We go from opera to barns.

»Yeah.

»Number four, American West Heritage Center. I'm a little concerned again about the 100% funding here, which I know

»that's what we pretty well a lot of what we've done in the pad. They they've kind of that's been a lot of their operational stuff.

»That's what what was their funding for that in the past. I could not find that for some reason.

»125 there, but they had a $6,000 surplus and so 6,000 off the 131 is the 125 that we gave a year ago. And they're I know they're they're just about getting that you know the other facility finished and and getting it going. Uh but I uh in there that's see you're only the 131. I mean that's about with the new operation and everything that's coming on. I think they might they could very well need that right now.

»You think they'll have increase in operating costs? I think there will be a little bit especially as they are bringing in a lot of displays and bringing in a lot of new things that's going in that new facility. It's amazing too. It should be done I think by the I thought mentioned uh was it August finished? So

»is that what we helped to fund in the inter in between?

»Yeah, we did

»the matching funds from the private donor.

»Exactly. Yeah,

»my thought on this I I just think the application is not quite correct on the because they this they ask for this and they say it's 100% of their operating budget. I don't think we are actually 100% of their operating budget and I think it would show much better uh and give us a clearer sense of where all of this stuff lies if we actually saw the rest of the stuff besides just

»this this this grant. I I had them at 125 just to carry on the funding from last year, but um

»let's maintain that then.

»125.

»Yeah, that'll be fine.

»125,000.

»125. Yes.

»Next one is

»they're direct. By the way, they just changed the directors, I believe, out there or excuse me, they're in the process of getting a new director.

»They do have a new director. inter.

»There was an interim, but I think he's the director now.

»Okay.

»Where did he Do you know where he came from?

»I don't.

»He'd be very new.

»Yeah, he was new at the very beginning of the application process.

»Okay. Number um 38, Hispan um events. This is the 15th annual cash grand funo.

»I love this one. It's not a ton of money. They bring a ton of people. Uh and it Yeah, I fully fund.

»Yeah, me too.

»Fully fun.

»I did as well.

»10,000.

»Okay.

»Number 45 is uh Logan City Parks and Wreck. This is for uh their park and recreation Ksler trail.

»Remind me about that one. That one I can't remember.

»It's down on the south end of town.

»Yeah.

»Trail,

»10th west. It's in there joining all I guess the trail system that's going back up to the east and then they've acquired to the west and doing all that cleaning

»by Trapper Park. Trappers up east, I believe, isn't it? Or

»trappers over um that way.

»I want to say I I think this is all heading west too on both sides of the 10th west.

»Okay. I fully fund it. I just didn't remember it. But

»so there is a trail that already goes a bike path that already goes clear out to that West Park. What are they are they adding on and making that connect to something? I could

»I was kind of confused when I read that

»paperwork. What did it say? Hang on. I I read that and it

»because I've ridden my bike out there. I know it's there.

»It's not great.

»You can cross over 10th west of the underpass.

»I agree.

»Go out there.

»I fully fund it.

»It's gone better.

»I thought they were connecting it with

»Yeah, there it's it's a connection point and I think it's even supposed to come over eventually. There's a split that's coming over to their new dog park and the other facility that's going on to the

»uh the landfield

»the landfield area, you know, all of that where

»I guess they have there's quite a big loop and to even I guess connect to go west from there. So

»yeah, the total project budget was 2 million. They requested 450,000 and they were um 10 foot wide concrete path with intermittent boardwalk sections are required to protect delineated water wetland areas in the trail corridor. Connects the existing sidewalk on six south which will link to the future six south parking along the Logan River and then head north on 1900 West to Logan Outdoor Recreation Complex. The proposed trail is approximately 1.45 four, five miles.

»Okay.

»And this is the this is a quarter of the budget. So,

»yeah, I mean, they're putting in plenty of and and I think Logan is now doing their projects a little quicker since we had them come in and finish.

»Well, and you got to speak a little bit for them. a lot of their projects are

»there's always a lot of players in them

»and uh and then

»and just the preparation and getting them all put together and everything. And I think it they almost hit a different level of organization trying to do all that to get that money going that uh we have had them come back a time or two to to give us another year to finish some things and stuff like that. But they finish them. They get them done

»and uh I think they've uh I think they use their money quite wisely actually. I think we got a really good park

»to access at Trapper Park Midway between Trapper Park and Willow Lakes.

»Okay.

»And and I don't know what the other one is, but yeah, I fully funded it.

»Likewise, I agree. Let's do it.

»450,000.

»Yeah.

»Next one is number 11. Cash County. This is the Cash County buildings and ground. This is for here at the admin complex. Some power improvements.

»I fully funded that.

»I think I had a question as to if this is really like a wraps application. you know, it's affiliated with the the gardener, you know, market and some things like that. And I

»I don't know. This this one here hasn't quite set with me.

»So,

»the I was hoping I was hoping to get your

»So, like I mean, I guess every time you come down here, I'm always shocked, but the amount of people that are here. So,

»just for new electrical wasn't improvements.

»Yeah.

»Out there so they can have more people plug in. I still start having the feeling that it's more like something that ought to be taken care of by us as cash county.

»That's what I thought too. I thought, well, as much as I would love to push the burden onto wraps

»rather than going into the this particular these kind of taxes to do it, you know, I don't know.

»Yeah. But

»is it is it are those outlets used for anything other than the farmers market though? I mean, I guess that's how we could

»It's the only major event that happens.

»Yeah.

»Right here. But um there probably should be others that sometimes they've had uh the USU um USU back to school parties.

»They come and drop the students out

»concert or two back here, but they've kind of moved that more over towards the plaza.

»Plaza now that we have the plaza.

»Um you know, and I and I don't know the uh I mean it it'd be good support for the farmers market. They've been here now for years and it seems that this is their home forever.

»Yeah. And um they don't uh charge very much for the booth space. Um so it I guess it just supports what they're doing. You're right. It could just be a cash county expense of some type, but

»but it is for the

»let's fund it with and then

»yeah. Let's just come back.

»It's not a big ask. I just didn't know if it was really something from RA. So 10,000.

»We overfund everything.

»Yeah.

»What's been going on anyway? Are they like blowing circuits or is it

»I don't know.

»I didn't know. No, I hadn't heard about it until we saw the request and I was just kind of

»I I think they needed more outlets um because they're running extension cords to different places. And

»is it an extension cord in an extension cord? I've heard that's really good.

»I wonder if they really like it when we do that.

»It's safe. Yeah.

»Yeah.

»So, did what amount did you

»fully fund? 10,000.

»Okay. And I'll I'll put it I'll highlight that one in yellow um if you wanted to

»come back

»come back to that one.

»The next one is number 17, the Cash Pioneer Museum. This is the Cash Daughters of Utah Pioneers Museum operational funding. It's across the street.

»I fully funded that.

»I did too.

»I had them at last year's funding.

»Yeah, me too.

»Wasn't that eight? That's where I put them.

»Yeah, I had them last year's funding was out.

»But I'm I'm not going to stress about it if if the majority really wants to go there.

»I love how many volunteers they have.

»Those little old ladies are really keeping that going.

»They do. Maybe we should just do nine. I put them at eight, but maybe it's just full funded. I mean, maybe we could keep them in yellow, too, just in case we have to. But that's only $1,000. So,

»one for nine.

»Let's go nine.

»9,000. Kathy said it. Okay. Hyram City AJ Peterson Park renewal. Is that right? 41.

»Yes.

»So I think this is where we talk about the two projects for Hyram together in my mind. Yeah. I put them to receive 200,000 between the two projects together. Um, sorry.

»They had some really big asks this year.

»My my thinking on this was fund the one they ranked number one at 200,000 and then the second project's great. Cue it up for next year, but but it's more than I think we can bite off in one year for them.

»I'm with you on that one.

»Yeah. Yeah, that sounds great.

»Their second one.

»That was the AJ Peterson one, right?

»That was the higher

»is number one. Yeah.

»Is their number one.

»That's what I had down.

»Okay. Yeah, I had them at 200,000. So,

»I had them a little higher, but that's

»I had them at three, but that's okay.

»200,000.

»So, number 40 at 200,000.

»41. 41.

»41.

»At 200,000.

»Okay.

»And then nothing for 40, right?

»And then nothing for 40. They can get that ready for next year, I think.

»Yeah, I'm all right with that. Yeah, I just said 200,000 between the two of them, so I think that works well.

»Milville's

»number 57 Milville give 100,000.

»I had 100,000 for that.

»South Park playground update.

»I put 100 as well.

»Yeah, they really do have a death trap of a slide there. They they specifically mentioned the slide in their application. I mean, back in our day, we called it fun, but now it's a death trap.

»Death traps make experiences.

»That's true.

»Burns it all.

»The number of 50s never win.

»Are we fine with the 100,000

»down this end? 100,000 fine with Millville?

»Yeah. Yeah.

»Okay. 63 is Nibly City. This is a recreation events trailer.

»I fully funded it.

»Yeah,

»I did as well.

»They do a lot of things in nibbly and I know I know they have a hard time moving things around of different areas. They can share resources between events. I fully funded as well.

»Okay, we're good on that one.

»7,000 then.

»Yes,

»number 66 is Nordic United. I fully funded them.

»I fully funded.

»They take care of that. They do a lot with a good a little.

»If it really wasn't for them, there's a lot of these even the close trails and stuff like that that they'd be in total disarray.

»Mhm.

»They spent a lot of time out there clearing those off.

»6,000 then.

»Yes. 6,000.

»Number 67, North Logan City. This is the Elkridge North parking lot phase two.

»I think we talked with them last year about phasing it like this and and I fully funded this request.

»I have to say

»they do need to do something at the pumpkin walk parking lot.

»Yeah,

»fully funded as well.

»It's definitely an issue.

»85,000.

»Yeah. Number 70, Richmond City. This is uh pickle ball courts.

»I had that at 100,000.

»That's what I I put 100,000.

»Yeah, I think,000 would be

»1045, which is the concrete and the lighting. But I'm okay with 100

»100,000. 105 then that cuts that'll cut for the lighting and the get that

»105,000 still you know barely well it's about 50% of their project which I thought

»yeah that's good they're still they're bringing plenty

»that's still stronger than most other the city applications themes that we've had come in

»that's true

»so I thought I was pretty proud of that

»they did a good job

»next one is Trenton number 78 Eight. It's for a park crest room.

»I have that one at full funding.

»Yeah, me too. Me too.

»35,000.

»Yeah,

»I that's fully funding the project.

»No.

»Yeah,

»they were 87%.

»They have And for the for a little town like that, that's

»that's huge. It's

»still a big shoot for them to keep them come up with the other 13% I can promise you. But

»all right,

»again, it's something for everybody. I

»That's fine.

»Little town's

»They need that little bit of

»bathrooms.

»And it's surprising, especially summer long. You go around all there. It's like every week those parks are just filled with family reunions, you know, and just heavily used.

»Didn't we fund 77,000 last year for the restroom?

»Yeah, I think we we gave them 77. No, we gave them 56. They requested 77 a year ago for the restroom, but we gave them 56. Now they're coming for 35. So that's why I'm saying they're fundamental project because we gave them 56 last year.

»They phased it.

»Okay, there. That's what you mean. I did not see that in the

»Oh, 756. Oh, good eye.

»So, what is your suggestion?

»I don't know. I have to look.

»Number 78.

»78.

»Brent,

»I said 25. I wanted them to come up with 10. My original was 30, but uh yeah, 25.

»Yeah, you bet. Let's give them the 25.

»25. Okay. Maybe see we'll see him back next year with

»with phase three.

»Phase three.

»So Trenton was 25,000

»25,000.

»Okay. Next one is number five. American West Heritage Center. This is uh their programming capital maintenance request.

»I had them at 55,000.

»I'm at 50.

»I had 50.

»I'm okay with that.

»Let's do 50.

»50,000.

»Yeah.

»Okay. 50,000. Next one is uh number 23, Cash Valley Chamber of Commerce, the summer citizens 50th anniversary. Can I ask something here? Because the university used to do this

»and then they backed out and the chamber took over, but the university now put in an application this year.

»Yeah, I wondered about that. for the senior citizens again. I What's going on?

»Is it joint or was the USU one?

»I know I know someone that was probably in lightness.

»USU asked 15,000 on this. Um, but

»do you mind and do you mind?

»Yes. Yes. Could you come up to

»it? It's a recorded meeting. So, if you'd come to the microphone,

»state your name, please.

»Um, I'm Jamie Andress from the Cash Valley Chamber of Commerce and, um, we do own the summer citizens program. However, the university still does offer classes for these summer citizens as well as Bridgerland Technical College and many other private things. So, one of the things that that USU has changed, and perhaps this has something to do with their funding, but they're really opening it up, they used to have uh have it so that if you wanted to take a class as a summer citizen at USU, you had to pay a base fee that included parking and library and access to the internet. And this year, is this the first year they've opened it up to be completely allocart, which has also opened it up to have more community members? We're trying to open the summer citizens program not only to for the people who come and visit, but also for any any uh senior or any citizens of the valley to participate. And um so I I'll just speak it for that at USU, but I haven't seen their application, but it does belong to us, the program.

»Well, that was

»and you've done a good job and I think we funded there, but is the university stepping in again or they

»No, they're not doing anything more than they have in the past other than offer classes for the summer citizens.

»Well, maybe that answered my question. and and the lectures. They host the lectures under the trees out on the lawn, but we put it all together, take our sound system, get the speakers. So,

»that's that's what they're doing. So,

»all the organizing itself is still under the chamber, correct?

»They just have some supplemental

»um content that they offer out there. Y Okay.

»Y Okay. What do you

»you mentioned that it's available to a lot of all the citizens here within the county also.

»Yeah, we're trying really hard to get that.

»Do I qualify as a

»every there's no there's no age. We have changed the wording to be

»same age Jamie.

»Active seniors. Active seniors.

»I know Dave how old you are. Yes, we are the same age.

»All that said is summer citizen.

»Summer citizen. here in the summer.

»Anyone?

»Yeah, we really do want we really want to open it up and we've been wonderful. We've been marketing and advertising and uh we brought a lot of business support into the program that never existed in the past.

»So, they have not come to you and asked to collaborate with your visits or anything like that.

»The university has not.

»No, no, no, no. They're doing their own piece.

»Okay.

»That does that help?

»No, we appreciate it.

»Okay. Yeah.

»Thanks, Jamie. So the USU application is number 82 if you wanted to see that one.

»82

»82. We'll come to that one a little bit later. I think let's let's go ahead and with the the summer citizen 50th

»summer citizen 50th anniversary

»number 23 I believe I fully funded it at 85,000.

»I said 75. Yeah, I was closer to 75, but uh maybe this year fully funded and maybe next year we could look at that whether it's fully fun.

»So, this is kind of a special

»Yeah.

»You know, it's a special celebration

»and if you're getting and starting that new program by getting it out to everybody. I think that's actually quite phenomenal.

»So, fully fun it this year and then it may drop a little as programs change or something.

»Then we go for the 50 first, right? The

»51. Okay. So, 85,000 everyone. Okay. 85,000. Next one is number 32, Cash Valley Men's Chorus.

»I fully funded them.

»Agreed.

»Only 20% and

»never been invited, though.

»That's a great ask, too. Yeah. $1,000.

»Did you say 1,000 or $4,000?

»Okay, good. I was trying to see what

»1,00

»carnish

»number 35. I had a question there.

»I I funded them at 12. uh you know I just kind of but yet I don't know they could go a little higher but I kind of thought that something like that that the rate the pace and a lot of things I think that you're looking maybe at a two or three year project as they go and so I'm thinking maybe let's get them going even if you fund a little bit more that's fine but let's let's do an in because they use a lot of their personal labor it's And uh there's really busy out there and so it's kind of like well we're able to get this much this year and

»I said 9,000 for the bat stop and 1500 for the fountain which would be 105.

»Yeah.

»And you said 12.

»I I was thinking about 12. So

»it's fine with me.

»So 12,000

»and and then let's just let's do it in increments with them.

»Very small little town but they I think they could uh

»12,000

»we could help along. So,

»thanks Dick.

»Next one is number 36, Four Seasons Theater Company.

»We upped these guys last year because of the transition with the opera. Um, so even though the amount may I I think it's still a little bit of an increase over what they did the year before, but prior to that we were funding them somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 to 45,000. I put it at 45, but

»I took the took the number of events that they presented last year. So, they had four presentations and we gave them $100,000. That was $25,000 per presentation. So, I looked at what they were going to do this year and with all of the theater companies, I did the same thing. $25,000 per show. So if they did three, I did 75,000. If they did two, I did 50,000. That's what I did. How I did it.

»And how many do they have program?

»Well, let me look and see what I add them down. 436.

»What did they get last year?

»I read a lot.

»That's, you know, there's

»75,000, which they had three shows. some of the some of the applications, you know, it asked about, you know, would they receive it last year, but they don't put the amounts in it and

»you have to go

»and you you go digging, you know, you have to go really digging for them and stuff like that. But I had on that one, I just had a big question mark.

»My big question mark was because last year's amount and then it seemed like a pretty good ste kind of a steep increase what we gave last year.

»They had three shows. Oh, yeah. They had three shows and so I said $75,000.

»I like that.

»But we need to remember too, which I really appreciated, that the three theater companies made a joint request for sound equipment.

»Yeah.

»Which is good because they're coming together and working together. So remember that there

»there is that other third request which I believe

»I funded fully.

»Yeah, me too.

»They have an alliance.

»I like I like the

»I like his rale

»the reasoning behind that. I 75,000 is good for for me. Anyone else?

»Yeah, that's fine.

»Okay.

»Number 36, four seasons 75,000.

»Yeah,

»this is the

»number 60 is music theater west.

»Same thing. Three show. I said 75.

»I had 80. So yeah, it's right there.

»Keep consistent 75 for now. The music theater west was 75,000.

»Yes.

»75,000.

»Next one is number 61, Newton Town.

»Yeah. I have a question. This is So this is for sidewalk. It looked like and when I saw the request and I know in the past we've we've we've kind of hesitated when requests include sidewalk.

»I didn't like this one. I questioned whether or not it would be used.

»Yeah. I I don't know this one. I

»And they had a big request last year.

»Yeah. And the pickle ball stuff and that

»that is well used out there. Even though it's very rural, it is well used. Uh but uh you know, a lot of the the bike riding and the walking and a lot of you know those kind of things out there uh the open streets out there are just beautiful. You see most people when you drive through there, they are they're just everywhere rather than concentrated into the you know that here's the park.

»Yeah. And I know their city park tends to be the hub of multiple bike races.

»Yeah.

»So it's it's there's times they're pretty slammed out there.

»I I had them at 50.

»Yeah. I was 50 as well.

»50's

»what I was I put them at 50 to try to get them started, but I was 92% of the project. I wish they would have come up maybe just a little bit, but it's kind of consistent with a lot of the smaller towns anyway. they can come up with that 10 to 10 to 15% is about

»what they can do

»all they can really require from

»though you joked earlier and that's kind of true then they'll come back with a phase three

»well that that happened remember the little ice rink that they did

»that was in stages so

»Bruce you had 35,000

»uh actually I said 25

»25,000

»had them at 40 just we we're coming off a huge project out there for a really small community.

»Yeah.

»Um I I' I'd love to give them something. I'd like to if even if if they were willing to look at asphalt instead of concrete, they might be able to do this much less expensively.

»Um and and so I think there's there's some substantial cost savings that could be realized here.

»And you were saying 35

»40

»25. I was going to say, should we split those differences?

»30 35.

»That's great for me.

»That sounds good.

»Okay. Which

»Yeah. What we doing?

»325.

»I love it.

»325. Almost like

»500.

»Next one is number 64. Nibbly Morgan Farm.

»Put this at 24,000.

»Me too. How much is it drawing?

»4,000.

»Is it drawing a lot of people?

»There's a lot of people that participate out there. Middle of the city

»had 9375

»that must have been paying for

»something

»some portion of the project.

»I had it at 12.

»I had it at 10. Um,

»so I I I love the project. We we're out there even from the other side of the valley for for different events and activities. For for me the I I this is a place where I want Raps to be investing very much. The specific project as I understand it was expanding their poultry buildings and I love chickens. We have many of them in our own backyard. uh the tie of that the specific project to tourism increases was was where I was a little bit skeptical but but I still want to provide at least some support for them on that

»and I think there was some like

»assistance yeah horse things too yeah

»I thought that that community events out there we've been fantastic facility um and and good infrastructure building. We we absolutely should be funding and supporting.

»Okay. The 9375 I had would fully fund the animal shelter. Animal shelters.

»They had a training area. They had animal shelters,

»right?

»And water services and electrical services. Their cash would that they proposed putting in would fund the water services and the electrical services and then I the 9375 would build the livestock shelters. There was kind of like a safety issue on an animal containment area too on you know I think they they were trying to do some of that

»animal shelter things

»still like 24,000

»the discussion is leading me to believe I was a little chintzy in my previous assessment I if we're getting up towards 20

»I've never been able to spell that word chintzy

»chintzy

»I can say it I can't spell it Um,

»should we do 20 then?

»20.

»Let's go 20, I guess. Or 18 to 20 right now.

»18,000.

»I put a question mark.

»20. Okay. Kathy says 20.

»Let's go 20. Let's do 20.

»I honestly I need to get out there and get more familiar with them.

»Yeah.

»I've been out there for a while.

»Oh, number 64. Nibble Morgan Farm. 20,000.

»Just put a question mark just to Okay, I'll highlight it in yellow. State University had

»wonderful discussion

»lyric.

»Yep.

»The lyric is on center street, right?

»Yes.

»It's been being remodeled.

»I recommended 20. That's kind of in line with what we've done before. And it's all marketing, which I

»Yeah, I don't

»don't like No.

»Yeah. Marketing is good, but sometimes fleeting dollars. In other words, you don't you leave and the remnants of the dollars is gone with it sometimes. And you hope,

»you know, it's just it's a hope, but it's it's necessary, but still just a

»I think most their patrons are probably the same patrons every year.

»That's a good point.

»Yeah, but but but they it is a great program.

»Good job.

»I'll agree with

»20.

»I'll go I'll agree with you on the 20. I didn't

»20. Okay.

»Disclosure. I am employed by Utah State University, but I have no direct ties or compensation from this wing of the university. And so I I'm just gonna I I'll talk about it, but I'm not going to vote on this one.

»Okay.

»My my own disclosure is my son's in one of the shows this year.

»Oh, that's fun. What show?

»Willy Wonka.

»Oh, that's really fun.

»They just did a season of it just now that'll run again during the season. So,

»but I'll still vote on it. He disclosed it. That's all that's required.

»I have no ties with any of it, so I'm happy to vote on it.

»I think 20 sounds

»20. Let's go.

»Okay. Zoo.

»Yes.

»Now, this is up to 10%.

»Up to the 378,000. Is that what the 10

»and

»this is the No, up to 10% is the cap.

»Yeah. Up to 10% of

»10% would be

»um

»294 486

»486. Yes.

»294,486.

»I had them at three not recognizing that. I have no issue with recommending the full amount uh that is permissible by statute. So that's the full 10% though is the 370

»is the 294.

»Knowing

»486

»knowing that that 294 is designated what would prompt them to ask for the 378?

»They they probably

»could we even know? They wouldn't they would

»they probably were just asking for the maximum amounting maybe in the

»ballpark and that's just that's really it's it does state in the law and we've we've talked about this many times it was up to but you can exceed it.

»Yeah.

»But uh you know that it's kind of encouraged that you can give that much. when that was created the up to is that kind of saying that there should be guaranteed that or you know that was a that's a big discussion that we've had.

»Carl I think kind of thought that

»well a lot of people have thought that but when you get into it and their attorneys they all they all said that it's basically they can have up to it isn't it even the legislators they said in their intent that we understand that it wasn't like full intent to that you require every zoo to get that And uh uh so I think it was just an encouragement from the

»But should we

»but they

»want to give more than we cannot?

»No, you can't.

»You can't give more than 10%.

»Yeah. Uh they're they're going through some tough times. Very tough times. So, but yet I don't know. I I don't I I know I I I just don't dare say much right now. I just don't say dare say a whole lot. But they're going through some tough times and it's a you know there's a it's well well attended a lot of people and it's by the parks and everything. Uh

»in my notes I had made that I put that question could we give more and if we could I recommended the 294 plus $25,000

»I'm glad you're here to give the history Dave you talked about served on the board that history is important

»right and it's a There's just, you know, that's such a volatile enterprise, I guess you could say. I think it is because, you know, you you know, one thing whenever you're in the animal industry, you know, you're just going to have a little there's going to be hiccups no matter what you do, you know, uh weather. I mean, little things like that and then health costs of the animals.

»Yeah. But in this case,

»you know, it goes like this. And uh there's just a uh and then they're very it's a very intensive type of a of a operation. Lot of hands-on, a lot of stuff like that. So your personnel, you know, there's a a big chunk of their of their costs. Was it 400 I think was it just shy of half million dollars is is personnel payroll which uh that in some ways concerns me, you know, but they it is a high, you know, it's required for that kind of a a facility and stuff. So, I I I was just told some things and I it just made me really worry. But I think that uh I think if personally I had that three I think I went with 325 or something like that. 3

»That's right. Is it 394? Yeah.

»294 plus 25. I think I went with the three and then had a big question mark. But I just I think that's I think there could be a lot of things answered in the next few weeks maybe even before we meet again.

»So which I think that will be hopefully be really positive.

»So

»can I read the county code?

»Yeah,

»sure. So county code uh wrap zoological facilities allocate 10% after administrative costs to Willow Park Zutah based on an acceptable proposal submitted each year. The percentage will be reviewed each year. If less than 10% the additional funds may be allocated to parks and recreation.

»That's the guidance. Can can I maybe propose given that we've got things in process and and you read hearing that bit of statute it's pretty it gives us clear ground I read that or hear that as as 10%. Uh clearly we could choose to do less and and then let the council when uh when this comes before them uh make a determination with the passage of time and additional stuff whether an added amount allocation is appropriate above and beyond that 10%.

»My hesitation with that though is we should leave a cushion then to to give us as a council leeway to to give

»I I agree. My preference is to leave 100 to $200,000 of cushion for the council uh to use with discretion. Um any help?

»Did you keep track as you made your awards on the spreadsheet as to how much you had left over? How much you were awarding?

»I did not.

»Did anybody? I did.

»Of course you did.

»But I only

»of course you did.

»I ended up having 20% left over and we've been pretty close.

»We've been really close to your numbers, I think.

»And yeah, I ended up allocate only awarding about 82% of what was available.

»And you had this at 325. 320.

»I would move right now that we set it at 320.

»Okay. Okay.

»Let's do it 320. Put it in yellow.

»And then let's uh

»Yeah, if we're not if we've over spent.

»Yeah. I I'm hoping I'm really hoping that there's some good solid decisions that are made the next couple weeks.

»Yeah. Okay.

»Can help out.

»And now you're saying with them, what what is that? just like extra don

»I don't dare say that's fine because I think some things were said to me more in confidence on details

»but uh I mean with them I I think ultimately kind of comes down to that question if they because Logan City used to own it um they basically now it's you know ran it by itself um and it's almost like if if they don't get enough funding and and they can't operate it's eventually just going to disappear

»and and that's a choice that we would be making by keeping the funding away from them you So, I don't know. Let's

»I I'm hoping that they find

»I'm hoping they find a a uh a strong partner home that uh will uh will help strengthen their ability to uh you know to just I guess be a a better uh more efficient and more business-like zoo. That make sense? not necessarily charging, just something that I'm I'm hoping they do find a really, you know, a good strong partner that'll help out on some things. And that might be Cash County. I don't know. So,

»how's everyone feeling? Do we need a break or we just keep going? From eyeballing it, it looks like we're about halfway through.

»Yeah, let's just keep

»We're good.

»Carry on.

»Okay. Full steam ahead, Elma.

»Okay. Number 31, Cash Valley Gardener Market. 31.

»This is another marketing one

»promotion program.

»I did not have

»Remind me what that was.

»I think it's marketing. Um, in my notes I have down that I felt like I noticed they hadn't used the full allocation from the previous year's funds and and that they were I'd roll that over but uh um only provide $3,000 in new funds for this one. The gardener market um in the past has had one application. This year there were two

»two and they're very similar, aren't they?

»Um

»I thought they're very similar. Very very similar in nature at both of them.

»I didn't fund the one and I funded $4,000.

»One was the farm to the market farm to table banquet. Whatever.

»I have zero on number 30 and I had 4,000 on number 31.

»I agreed.

»That's what I had. But I

»4,000.

»Yeah,

»that's similar to Damian 3,000. So 4,000 sounds good. Anyone else? Okay. 4,000.

»I will say that that that supports a lot of uh of of you know backyard and small urban agriculture and some things like that. It really does. And it's the big thing like you mentioned it is a it's become an event

»for people. People come down and they they buy eggs.

»$8 smoothie,

»eggs, by the way,

»you know, it's but there's but it but it gets them into Logan in the downtown which

»then it becomes a a cultural thing.

»Um I don't know about some of the businesses, but some of the small businesses have, you know, stack started there and then became downtown location.

»Oh yeah. Um, I I think there's been a few others that have kind of grown from that. So, it's it's provided another another form of growth for others, too.

»But it's also I I love these celebrations of harvest and I think that when it brings a lot of the people together like that, and they overpay on food, you know, I think, but again, it's cultural and that's great.

»A lot of the growers come from out of the valley. I think like the vegetable the produce growers come from out of the valley. because they're faster, I think.

»Um, but the when you come here to get like burritos and I that is I think all here locally, burritos and Ethiopian food and and you know, all of the the yummy little vendors that they have. I think that's all.

»It's neat to see when a a family that has that little backyard that's together, the whole family's been participating and raising all these things

»and then you see that these families bring all that stuff in. It's neat to see that kind of a, you know, that it's less about the product and more about the kids. And I I think that's wonderful.

»Well, should we should we bump them up a little bit because we're we're cutting them quite a bit from their

»It's another one of those promotion things that I think people know about it.

»Yeah, I I know. It is like that. It's like

»Yeah, you just know that it's there.

»Yeah. I So, I think 4,000 is fair to me, but if you if you want to,

»let's do that. So 4,000 on number 31.

»Yes.

»And did you decide on 30 or you'll when we get to discuss that later? Okay.

»Number 48 is Logan Downtown Alliance. This is the marathon. Top of Utah marathon.

»Same. brings in a lot of people

»and I I I'm I'm for funding it. I just feel like it's kind of hard where a third of the cost is or the third of their budget is administration costs and I a lot of this is volunteer.

»I don't know.

»Now we talking number 48, right?

»Number 48.

»Mhm. And that is

»is salary

»is the salary of the of the director

»and I'm going you know and then there's another another event

»I suggested

»is the salary of

»what's that

»I said I suggested 15

»I had 14 yeah

»10 so I mean we're on

»why don't we do 15 um I only say that because on their next ask

»last year they got 20. Um, and this year they only asked for 15. I was like, that's funny. They're asking for less than they did the appropriate. This is on the other one.

»Oh, on the other one.

»And, and so anyway, I just thought he's at least being prudent on how much they need based on different things. But I can see that one at 15. And I think the other one he was asking for 15, but it was it was actually 5,000 less than last year, which I thought was interesting

»because not many people ask for That's I'm I'm fine with 15 on that one.

»Okay. Okay.

»Number 48 15,000. They've got some pricey projects that they've put in.

»They're calling them lots of phases, too. This is like similar to the other one. I said 150,000 between both projects was nice.

»This is phase two.

»Well, phase three, I think, is in here, too, is it?

»Phase three of the legacy park is in here. This is phase two of the city square park.

»Oh,

»they're not connected.

»I um Yeah. Yeah. the the the I and we we want to be out there to help our small communities because there they need recreation projects too and the tax base isn't there to support it. U the flip side um we don't want to export so much of the dollars that we make it difficult for larger communities with larger populations to be able to accomplish their projects as well. Um I I've had both of them uh both of these projects at 30,000 both the city square phase 2 and legacy phase three. Um uh but um but but I'm I'm open to being persuaded to do more. I'm uh I just Yeah. proportionally to what we've done for similarly sized communities around the valley between the two asks. There's a lot here.

»There is a

»I had I had 80,000 for both com, you know,

»each or together.

»Oh, for both.

»Yeah.

»But I a lot less

»was looking at these little communities and remembering the comments that we've made before and they've been repeated here. that uh the bigger ones need to help the smaller ones and that's the only way they'll get anything done. So what I did is I took the 5 million5 that we have available to us for everything this year and I took it times their percentage of the population that is in their community. That doesn't allocate anything to the theater or

»to the festival or or anything else. If you just took it straight across, Bendon would qualify for $52,500.

»And but there's already that's already done.

»There is a separate there is a population allocation, isn't it?

»525 of the total. And I thought, well, they're I mean, they've requested a half a million dollars.

»Yeah, they they were shooting for the moon.

»They're not afraid to ask, but that's way too much. But I I'd say keep in mind though some of these projects are just a like let's say a pitfall court. It's a one time once it's there. They're good for 15 years and maybe don't need a lot. Um I guess let's say if a small community kept asking for let's say $150,000 every year because now it's like

»they do men last year they had a big

»ask too library asked several years ago they were some big ones and it just constant.

»Yeah. It's kind of like they just see that as a new revenue stream to create. that you do have other towns that you know what that they they go for they'll get really something really nice get it done and then they just they'll wait two or three years

»doesn't ask until they need some

»say so but if they're always asking that I would agree that we should

»so this is their number this is their number one ranked item

»on each I got to get back to the right

»I had 80 80 for both

»I had 30 for each so or but I'd be open to 60 focused one is what?

»Oh, I had I was more I said 150 between the two of them.

»I had a hundred

»between the two of them,

»but allocate it all to their number one, but I'm willing to go less.

»I would rather almost just like give an amount and allocate it to one project. And

»yes,

»I didn't fund the second one.

»Let phase 35 come in later. 35

»80 for the one feels like a middle ground on across the different numbers that I'm hearing.

»The playground is their number one. So do $80,000

»for the men and playground phase two. 80

»phase two.

»So that's number 55.80,000. Mhm.

»And then did you decide not to do the other one away?

»That one's pretty low on the list, but I guess we can talk about that one in a minute.

»Okay.

»Do you have a running total?

»Um, it's not an accurate running total. If you do take a break, I can

»Okay.

»Um, adjust that.

»Maybe after we get done with this first page.

»We got plenty of money.

»Yeah, we got plenty of money. So then

»but then the balance that you've got to have, you know, that

»Yeah,

»there's a lot of them that are both, but then there's we got to make sure they're out of the specific reps or restaurant.

»Providence City on this one, they wanted the whole thing paid for by reps. Not the whole thing, but 90% of it paid for by reps.

»Yeah. And they have plenty of revenue.

»Yeah. Those are the ones that I tend to score

»sales and take down.

»Yeah. They have sales. They plenty of sales tax that they generate in their city. and they've got a big population base. So,

»I I agree. Full funding is not on the table for me on this one. I listed it at 160, but I'm open to

»I had 150, but

»I have 1548, which is 100% of the equipment and materials.

»I love

»I love it. I like that.

»160 or what? What? 1548.

»1548. Good.

»No one can accuse Bruce of not doing his homework.

»154,800 on number 69.

»28 cents.

»Sorry.

»Number 79.

»79.

»You unic Unicorn theater change in that one from the year.

»Theater by children for children.

»I listed it at 10.

»I love thatorn. I fully funded that.

»I 12 I 125. I'd be fine. I have neighbors that participate in that all the time.

»Let's do full.

»Oh, let's do full. It's for the kids.

»It's for the kids.

»For the children.

»15,000 on number 79.

»Yeah.

»Anything that keeps kids involved in something besides video games and TV

»cash community bands. Is that the one that is the people writing?

»Are you allowed to vote on this?

»I perform with them. So I I can do this discussion, but I won't vote.

»Is that the one that has the float?

»Yep. I love that.

»I say we just give them a couple hundred.

»No.

»Yeah.

»No. I that that is huge when you you see them in the parades, little things like that, and then other events. But

»it is

»the wrong page.

»Rare.

»It is rare. you know, uh, the C when they come in the parade, it's just rare to see in other parades and other places, stuff like that. Just, you know, the just that little hometown get together comes on the float. And um, I think we just we need to keep that going myself. So,

»we also perform perform during the year. It's the Cash Wind Symphony affiliated with USU during the school year and then we just perform during the summer with the Cash Community Band.

»But it's a very visible theme. I know a lot of people they look for it and if it's not in your parade.

»Which one do you go I This will depend on your funding. Which one do you go to? Hyram or Lewon?

»Usually Hyram.

»Okay. Then I say funding.

»200 200 bucks.

»It's hard to take the the bandwagon out that far

»because we have a bandwagon.

»We have a bandwagon.

»Bandwagon.

»Only one way. It's the coming back.

»I picked it up and took it out there.

»There you go. If you want to drive us, Dr.

»Okay. I say 6,000.

»Yeah.

»6,000.

»Sure.

»What instrument do you play? Kathy

»French horn.

»Oh, wow.

»Over 50 years. I'm getting old.

»Woman of many talents.

»The next one is number 12, Cash County. This is the Cash County Trail and Active Transportation Program funding. I I have a long time habit on this one of expressing hesitancy about funding salaries out of wraps. And I also have a longtime habit of voting for this project anyways because I really love the trails.

»I'm not sure how to resolve that. Um uh but I will probably register that concern and vote uh in favor again. I have it as as fully funded.

»I have it as

»they have another request.

»The other request was for trail maintenance. I think

»um

»that one I I got a question.

»Uh I don't think they have it. Second one.

»Oh, it's not them.

»It's a different cash the trails cash which is the name of the actual division of the county if I understand correctly. I don't want to lecture to

»in development services.

»Yes. Development services.

»And then there's the cash trails alliance alliance

»which is a separate nonprofit organization that also has a request for trails maintenance.

»Correct. Um I on the one hand I'm I'm I may part of me is happy that trails cash that is part of the development services of the county organization did not ask for extra funds for constructing trails this year. They have often had substantial asks in the past. On the flip side, there's a part of me that says why aren't they asking for more money for this? We need we need to fulfill the grants we already have.

»Gotcha. Yes.

»Yeah. They have

»that's huge right now. Fantastic. Okay. And that's that's excellent because one of the reasons for doing the foundational salary stuff is that it's capacity building so that they can and some of the things we've funded in the past was intended to be seed money so that they can go out for the big grants and do

»and they have brought in a lot of money and without having dedicated staff to go out and get that grant funding, we would miss out on it. And so I think that justifies the salary.

»You can go broke with grants.

»I mean because every grant

»usually has something else to come in the back door to help out on the grant.

»Mhm.

»And you can literally go broke, you know, by by them by someone giving you a bunch of money. And you know what when I say that is that you're it's the other money the matching monies and everything has got to come from somewhere. And so then it's usually robbed from Peter to Paul. I mean, usually has to come from somewhere or taxed, you know, at another level. And so, you know, you just you got to be very selective to me in get the grants and let's get them completed and done before you have a a backload of too many. I always I that's what I think I'm it's kind of one of those I just you like to see them fulfilled before and make sure that we aren't tax taxed on them. So, yeah.

»Is there a trails coordinator position actually in development services funded by the county?

»There's two there's two full-time positions.

»Two full time.

»Yeah.

»Okay. They're funded by this allocation that we're considering now, not funded by uh county operating dollars.

»Correct. they they are to work with all the organizations,

»you know, and uh you know there's make sure that if there's um DNR or something that is in an area they're working that they make sure that there's a presence to those to those meetings to where hey these are our plans so that DNR doesn't kick or just change and push a an expected trail or something or an ambitious way of doing something on our end. you know, there there is at least there's someone at the table that's sitting there talking to them at those meetings. I know.

»Are they still doing outreach to smaller communities, helping with their trails coordination to make that trail system?

»Yeah,

»they are available to smaller communities.

»I recommended fully funding this one, but the reason I did was because this is less than they've requested in

»a lot. I mean 22 was 385 23 another 200 24 300 25 nearly a half a million dollars and now they back down

»and trying to fill their and that's why I recommended fully funding this one.

»I recommended full funding as well.

»No, you're you're right.

»You're right. So,

»okay,

»that's all I have to say about that.

»Let's Yeah, let's I Let's go the full funding on that one.

»All right.

»185,346.

»34. Yeah.

»Number 25. Cash Valley Civic Ballet is the next one. This is for the um community performance and operating expenses number 25.

»You have defend the netcracker or the community will go up in arms.

»Yeah.

»I I put them closer to 40. Um I to take it down a little bit. I just think that they're which a lot for a page organization that you know their patrons It's just a business.

»I had them at 25 as well. I think that's where we funed them last year.

»Yeah, I think

»that's same as last year.

»That's what I have.

»That's

»I did 25 as well.

»Do that.

»Something about the budget that they

»That's what I included.

»We'll get there. easier,

»the

»last year's applications on here, too.

»Uh, as something that might be helpful as you're navigating, Elma sent out previously an email that had a link to a Google Drive thing that is in alphabetical order and I'm clicking off of that rather than trying to search in the the thing to see. And that's helping me get to applications faster than I would get to them

»through the interface. students

»and also that's why I keep staring at my screen. I'm not like checking emails or sports scores or something while we're while we're doing this

»and I wrote in the book.

»So, did I hear number 25 Cash Valley Civic Ballet?

»I think we're all kind of wondering why we said 25,000.

»Yeah.

»And many of us said 25,000.

»Well, I'm looking at it in the budget.

»In the budget, they included 25,000 of grant money. So, they've only budgeted 25, but they made a request for 50. It makes sense to me.

»They're they're budgeted what what they'll probably get then.

»So, we'll fund their budget, not their fully funded budgeting.

»It it I hope this isn't the quiet part out loud, but it sounds like the thing where you ask for more than you

»Yeah.

»needs and and budget shows that they're budgeting for 75 $76,000 surplus.

»Yeah, I saw that too.

»Yeah.

»I think 25

»25,000

»25. Okay.

»Okay. Thank you.

»Agreed.

»Number 42 is Jump the Moon Foundation.

»And I Last year they were 20. I believe I pushed them to 25 this year. Yeah, I think it was capital improvements as a big portion of their request.

»I recommended 15.

»Yeah. What was their number again? Sorry.

»Number 42.

»42.

»Yeah, I was at 20. Is that what you said?

»And I pushed it up a little bit because I thought maybe my impression was that they'd expanded and

»yeah,

»they're they're kind of increased the number of things they're doing

»and they're going to go do more outreach to the schools.

»Yeah, the outreach part was a impact on that one. I have 30,000.

»My original was 20 and then I have a little line through it and went to 25. But

»do you're at 30, you're at 25.

»20 15

»is kind of in the middle.

»Should we do 25? Their supplies was were for 3,000. Their capital improvements were 12,700.

»I think that's a little low.

»Should go for 20.

»I'd go for 20. Reluctant. I bet I would go.

»Okay. 20.

»Let's go 20.

»20,00.

»That sounds good.

»20,000.

»Mhm.

»Next one is number 50, Logan Events and Activities. This is for the Center Street Giant Pumpkin Festival.

»Okay. Is this their number one?

»Yes, they do have three. I think

»Logan Events and Activities does.

»Yes.

»So, is this is this another Logan City

»Center Street? No, this is the center street

»organization that was created for Logan City.

»Yes, kind of. Oh, not Logan City. Um, so I guess it's

»Center Street Merchants, wasn't it?

»Yeah. Center Street Merchants and it was kind of like the Center Street Alliance. It was actually under the Cash Chamber for a year. They basically, it seems to me they've created their own 501c3.

»We've got another entity promoting because we weren't giving enough in the chamber or something.

»Yeah.

»And so they've created a Center Street and I Yeah.

»In order to direct more money to downtown. I I was uncomfortable with that.

»All I know is I've attended their events and there's cajillion people there.

»That pumpkin festival.

»You can hardly walk. There are so many people at the pumpkin.

»That's the big one.

»You didn't wave to me.

»Goodness. They're huge.

»Oh, I wasn't there.

»But but it is a uh nonprofit organization that's created

»overhead. But on the other hand, they're making good money. Um, you know, charging for good spaces,

»the charging for the events. Um,

»so I mean, I could see cutting it a little bit.

»I agree. What did you put?

»I

»I funded the Christmas one and I funded the pumpkin, the Halloween one. I did not fund the other one,

»the art one.

»Yeah, I didn't fund that one either myself.

»I I'd like to see what they can do with one event, probably the pumpkin festival, before we go all in on funding multiple sets of events here. So, I had the pumpkin at

»I would like to just see for the

»Is there a conflict between the two organizations?

»Wait, two organizations?

»Um, no, not not really. Um,

»I just think this one's more successful.

»The Christmas event, you guys don't want to hear it probably, but

»the Christmas event was actually the Dianes through some hiccups and this and that. The city kind of took it over and then handed it to this other group essentially is a good way to explain it. Um, and so, so the alliance is probably a little bummed that their trees were taken from them, but that's all right. So it's a it's an area an area that is created different event 5013 receipts.

»Yeah.

»So that every event then applies rather than that area apply for three events or something.

»Yeah. And also since they are applying for three events but they're just events. It's it's kind of like we should almost just give a grant and say we'll use it how you want for your three events because really they're the application has different names of who's in charge of it even though it's the same group.

»It's the same group with three. See to me it ought to be one. Here's one application. Rank your applications like we do with everything else, you know.

»Yeah. And

»actually very similar to the downtown allianc's their second request is for all of the downtown events they do the Easter walk the um the ghost tours they're that one's all clumped into one and saying hey that's for all the events and then this other group they're asking for three different specific events but um the art one hasn't been well attend as well attended the other ones are large um interesting enough center streets just become this hub of events where that's where the marathon ends. Also not on there's no application for it, but that's where the um I guess the Latino festival happens there too.

»Um but they they're not asking for money and it's well attended.

»I kind of think we could consider them as as one event and maybe it's $10,000 for all three events. Good luck.

»Maybe next year Elma can request that they they do that just do one application for how many other events they want.

»Yeah.

»Like an their events budget.

»Um as I think about all three events do have booth space availability that they have to pay for. Um so they do have revenue streams that kind of pays for the event. Let's just say it's not a free community event. Um say like the uh I guess like um would be downtown walk. you know that there's no cost to anyone to do it, you know. Um, but this one they do have revenue stream by by charging produce.

»That pumpkin festival is huge. You can't even walk down

»though. I I say that but then I also have to mention say like the arts festival they they they do bring in two stages. I mean their expense to pull off the event is pretty high. Um um yeah. So that's not like it's not an inexpensive thing to pull off. kind of similar to the Summerfest um in the sense that they also bring in stage and music um but also charge for booth spaces,

»but I guess the Summerfest just has a lot more space for a lot more booths.

»So, who makes up the Logan Downtown Alliance?

»Um anyone in the downtown who is willing to contribute? Um it's you could say it's all the Downtowners, but but only so. Uh what the downtown Alliance does is they just they give a uh um kind of assessment to all the managers to say, "Hey, you just like the cash chamber." Um though the cash chamber is all of Cash County and it's basically, "Hey, you're a business. If you want to contribute to this group just for support, it's not very expensive to be a member of the downtown Alliance. Uh it's like $3 400 a year business if they choose to."

»So, the people that would participate in the Logan Downtown Alliance, Um there'll be some that are overlap. I guess I would be one I I pay to the downtown Alliance, but um but I'm also there on Center Street, but there's no assessment to the people on Center Street to be a part of this uh uh Logan events activities. They they don't have a fund structure like that. They're just they just do these three events. Basically, they own these events and they just do them center street. So it's a smaller it may be a subgroup then.

»Yeah, you could say that. Um it's really just an independent group that are just well like really Mark Anderson he he actually bought this or acquired this event that was happening in Provo um at um I say Provo but uh Thanksgiving Point. It was happening there for many many years and then Thanksgiving Point was kind like hey we're going to shell off this event and he actually got it and brought it to Cash Valley and it's big. It brings about 20 to 25,000 people in one day. Um, a lot of out of tanners. Um, it's it's people come from all over. It's a good event. I I I definitely support it. I'm not a part of it by any means. Um, but um, you know, and like I was saying, the cost of the events are actually they pull off a pretty good event. That's for sure. Um, so I I I think but but But again, they've had three different applications. So I think if we gave them maybe 15,000 for all three would would probably be sufficient.

»That's probably a good idea. And then they can allocate how they want whether it's like more towards the Christmas event or more towards um the Christmas one is probably out of the three of them um more of just a community event versus

»it brings in a lot of people

»all over.

»You know 15 is probably too low. It should probably be

»20 to 25 of it.

»Oh my goodness. Well,

»I'll pass it down. Thank you.

»Yeah,

»thank you.

»And activities had three requests that total 315

»and they were all about the same. 10, five, 10, 10, and 11. Yeah.

»Um I suggested 5,000 for the pumpkin, 2500 for the center street holiday, and nothing for the art.

»Sorry, will you repeat that? 5,000 for the pumpkin.

»2500 for the Christmas and nothing for the heartbeat.

»I think it's a little low. Yeah, I feel like that might be a little low from the amount of attendance I

»Why don't we do I I I think why don't we do 20 for all three events and let them split up how they want

»or even just like

»I've never done

»I say okay

»I actually would like I'd like about 50% all three events if you go to that that about 15,000

»okay

»five all three and

»five

»but uh but I think I wouldateate them a little bit different. I would let them allocate the three, I guess, or just put I had originally I had 8,000 on the pumpkin theme and I had 7,000 on the

»the holiday and zero on the art.

»Yeah,

»I'll support that.

»That's what we're

»That's what I had on them just and that's 15,000. So,

»out of the three events, the the art one is the lowest attended one. um like they're trying to grow it into something, but

»and there there's a lot of these new ones. I would like to see I would like to see some growth in them rather than waiting for us to give them growth.

»And you know, they I think the one the ones that survive, the ones that do really good are usually the ones that they're growing despite us, despite the wraps committee,

»despite the RAPS money, they're growing.

»We're not nursing. Then then when then all a sudden when that momentum's going then when you put a little reps money into it then all of a sudden it it really broadens out and then you it'll have an explosion to it and it's really neat to watch.

»So you know that those first that baby years of going on with something those are survival years. You don't want them just to survive just because of you. You want them to survive despite you or in spite of you. Not despite you, in spite of you. So that you can then, oh, now we see it. Now let's just

»because that shows the next level supports it. The community wants it.

»Yeah. They want the pumpkins. I've been split in all different directions there because I do have property off of Center Street. And um sometimes I've been a little bit of a naysayer because they also dump the garbage cans in front of our property when it's uh time to pick up day. And so I'm like, "Oh my gosh, you guys like don't put all this burden on me." And so I'm like, "Lower your events. Use the plaza more." But then recently I thought, "Oh man, they're doing great events." You know, all the events. I mean, because there's more than just this group that keep using it. And uh so I'm like, okay, let's do more events. Let's close the street all the time because I'm always concerned with the people who do, you know, business operations there that that it does help some like the restaurants, but it does hurt others when it's always constantly closed a lot during the summer.

»Well, like the pumpkin thing, it has grown without us.

»Mhm.

»Yeah.

»And it's it's became very very popular. And so now they've come in and let's let's give them a little bit. And I I think that I think the problem with the pumpkin pan is it will outgrow.

»It kind of actually has.

»It's already into the whole parking lot of

»You know what I'm saying? That's it's it's it might just outgrow.

»I I guess I'm saying too much about myself there. Um possessed with pumpkins, it seems like. I don't know. I've complained about that. Big pump. Well, the event keeps growing, taking all the parking, too. But it's like, well, where do you expect people to park? In fact, people are parking three, four blocks away.

»Oh, yeah.

»They're they're parking down by my house. I'm two blocks down and they're all around. Um it's just they they can't park the event,

»but I I don't know if it'll ever move because uh Mark Henderson likes it there. So, it'll probably stay this big. Anyway, it's a good thing. So, is that eight for the

»eight for number 50? And

»for seven for number

»for Christmas. Yeah, after the Christmas one. Okay.

»And I had zero on the art one right now.

»If that's okay. I don't know. That's

»I'd be okay with that.

»So, number 50 was 8,000. Number 52, if I got the right one, was 7,000.

»Yep.

»And zero on number 51.

»I don't know where they're at.

»They're they're down lower. That was that was the last one on the ranking anyway.

»Oh, is it?

»The art is zero.

»Yeah, they at the bottom.

»Where's Christmas? What one is that one?

»52.

»52 is midway down the last page.

»7,000.

»Yep.

»Okay. The next one is number 58 Milville. This is for a basketball court. Um, I had um I had them at $30,000 at 30.

»I'm at 25.

»I didn't fund this one.

»They have a big ask on um project 57 or bigger ask.

»Yeah.

»Um that we we we that didn't score quite as well, but I believe was their first priority. I I think the South Park playground update was their higher priority.

»Oh yeah, we did talk about that one.

»We did. And you funded that at 100,000 on number 57.

»That's why I was thinking

»I put a 100,000 on 57, but nothing on 58.

»I had 100,000 between both of them myself.

»That's about the neighborhood I'm in. But at IMO it it is tricky because sometimes I want to say well let's they they have have two different applications. Let's let them put the money where they want to. But I think we have a compulsion to decide on the applications they send us. Um not on uh I I think we have to award to one or the other or split it how we see fit. And they can I understand they can come back in the field to the council to reallocate later if they want to. Yeah, you you can't we need to manage them. That's the applications. And so you can't just say, "Hey, here's 100,000 split it among your three applications. I need to know on the management over the next couple of years how much you're going to put on each one." So that makes it

»otherwise that's how you get phase three, phase four, phase five.

»Yes. So, and then you you start creating, oh, you gave us 100,000 for our three projects. We can use it on whatever we want.

»They just use it on

»we need to make sure when they submit their application or their reimbursement request that it's under qualifying um activities. That's why we need to manage them independently.

»So, is the consensus that this will not receive funding? Uh, can we just highlight it

»on number 58?

»Let's highlight that and let's kind of go through several of them and that might be one that we come back to.

»And number 57, you you did put 100,000.

»Yeah, we put 100,000 on that one, but let's just let's just highlight 58 right now. And

»okay,

»we might come back to it.

»This is another one where I took the five and a half million and took it time the percentage and it came out to be 95,000.

»100,000 on the first one. Mountain West Street

»number 59.

»I put 2500.

»Mountain West.

»I I put all 5,000 there.

»Me, too.

»I I had it at 4,000. So

»4B before we could settle.

»They budgeted for a surplus of $14,000.

»Yeah.

»And that's why I didn't give them the full amount.

»But I what I really liked was it's only 1.5% of their whole,

»you know, that they're it was it was a help and a push along rather than survival.

»I'm fine with 4,000.

»Okay.

»4,000.

»Yeah. Okay.

»River Heights

»number 71.

»Are we put in the same thing every year?

»It feels like

»we put 50,000 into this project last year.

»Um and so we need to get it done. I have it at 60. Does that mean we're funding the whole thing between the two years? I put it at 35,000.

»Didn't they come in

»and switch around

»and they switched it over cuz they

»the location

»they changed the location

»location or was it the the

»they did a new bowy at the other park?

»No, it was it was the same. It was a pavilion. a pavilion

»and it was moved from one park to another park. I don't remember the reason, but it was moved to another park and and the council.

»Was it this year or last was it two years ago?

»Last year. I think it was last year.

»So, now we're coming back to this park for another pavilion.

»Huh.

»Oh, and I I think the other one that you moved it was um it it became unsafe and they needed to replace the other one sooner than the the one at Ryan's Park.

»I don't remember the names of the parks, but yeah, it was a

»Steuart Hill Park.

»Well, the one that they took it to another another location, I think was the Ryan Park.

»Yeah, it became unsafe

»using your calculation. What did you come up with for the amount?

»I I wanted to fund 50,000 of this 70 that they're requesting

»because we will have funded 50 plus 70 120. The whole project is 140. So, we would have been funding 85% of the project,

»but it but it yes and no because it turned around and it went to a different pavilion.

»So, now we're funding

»and that we it wasn't part of it, but they got that one done. I guess now they're coming back to redo this one. So, we're actually funding two pavilions uh due to some safety issues and I guess re redistributing some money to a different place.

»So, what did you recommend?

»I had them at 60

»because they were about they were asking for half but even even if only half of that project I'm not I don't feel bad about the half of the project either 70.

»So, you know, if they can come up with the other 50%. I think, you know, if you fully fund it at 70,000, I think you're you're fine. That that's what they're asking, right? I got

»70. Yeah.

»Yeah. It's up.

»That was their request. Yes,

»I'm good with 60.

»60. Okay.

»60 is where I'm at.

»Okay.

»60,000 on number 71. 000. Um,

»I'll let you I'll let you guys talk about the next one.

»Okay. I had somebody draw me a picture about the unsafe conditions with the where you hit the balls and where hole number one is. I was like, "Oh, okay. Fine. I guess it's the big deal."

»So, number 74. This is a Birch Creek Golf Course safety net netting project. I have it at 200,000.

»This is to go along the homes that are

»No,

»along the driving range. So, I guess if you're at if you're at hole number one, there's a driving range right next to it. And so, it's quite

»they want to put a net between the two so they can extend their driving range the full length and then not hit the people playing hole one.

»Yeah,

»that net has protected people from me before. Uh, so I I'm familiar with the lay of the land there. what they currently have is not very pretty.

»Yeah.

»You know, it's just has the poles, big old tall poles. And so, it's a it's it's a it is a hazard where they have that driving range. And and that it is a hazard. And I'm

»I

»I quit golfing years ago. Okay.

»Because the last time I did, I took my wife. She was oh almost nine months pregnant.

»Oh, maybe it's been a minute.

»I hit them all and it went over and went right into a the golf cart of like some guys that were sitting in there. It bounced around. I swear like five times. Must have hit every one of them. I handed the club to my wife. They all looked over and they thought we can't yell at a ninemon pregnant lady. So, you played the pregnant card on behalf of your wife.

»Well, her hand was out and my hand happened to be

»but uh you know I but it is a it is a city golf course. And so I guess that's what that that's part of their parks

»program.

»I don't have that note in front of me. What were they paying? What's the total cost of that?

»The total cost

»they want 80% of it I think.

»Yeah, they want 80% and it's 242 at 80%. I had 200.

»I said 200,000. Looks like that's the consensus.

»I'm a little lower than that, but I'm fine with that. It's It's their number one request.

»It's They don't have a lot of other stuff they're looking for.

»200,000.

»Yes.

»Yeah.

»And for the size of that city, they're not

»Yeah.

»They're not really over asking in a lot of ways, you know,

»and they do finish things. I will say that. Boy, I remember Monday. Boy, they jump right in it. It's green and go and spent that year. It's really good at that.

»Number 77, the Chamber Music Society.

»I have it at 4,000.

»I have it 4,000. historic from their historic requests.

»Trying to find what I have four.

»I buy four. Yeah.

»4,000.

»4,000 for number 78.

»Yeah. 77

»or 77. Sorry.

»Number eight. Cash children's I had them at 12. Exactly where I'm at. They're they're great and everything, but I I thought their costs, if I remember right, their costs were uh they were in line where it was going. I had a question at one time that

»salary was it for their artistic dire?

»I had 10, but there's no prior accounting

»any prior year in the past how they used the money. At some point, I I hadn't noticed that at some point that has to lead to a zering zeroing out of reports. I don't know if they're at that point yet, but um

»because I don't know what they've done.

»Yeah.

»You know, and it's it is gen general operating support and teacher salaries, but I didn't see the detail on how much really

»we have a 10,000. We have a 12,000. Let's go. 12

»12,000.

»Okay. 12,000.

»12,000 for number eight.

»For number eight.

»Okay. This one, the Cash County Fairgrounds indoor arena ventilation upgrades.

»Last year we funded a large amount for

»we did

»fans and ventilation. Is this part of the same thing?

»I think this is in the cattle barn and that was in the And they were the upgrades to the cash uh well you got the cash arena

»and then the event center and those other updates were were pretty well all the uh event center. They've changed all that and that's

»so this is a different

»this is a different thing.

»Okay. And is this more like I don't want to sound overly simplistic but is this more than what we can handle with some box fans and opening all the doors?

»Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Very much. Yeah. We've we tried doing a lot of that anyway and uh that's what they're trying to get away from. They're trying to, you know, have something that's uh just a lot more effective is what they're after.

»Which building is this one for?

»The big the big um

»dairy barn. That's it.

»Yeah, the one that has the cows in the

»Yeah, with the livestock, but that's just used year round. Uh

»a lot of small rodeo events and stuff all year round and everything. and that they're trying to they do have a a high issue of moisture and they're trying to some get the moisture out of there because it is a is really affecting the exterior no or excuse me the interior and insulation everything of inside. So they're they they've got to get ways to get more ventilation going. U I had I let's see I don't think I had them at full funding.

»I had a 100,000 I had 100,000

»that's what 75

»I had them 105 but 100 100,000's good

»I I had not funded this given the magnitude of the other of the water project but I'm open to putting something there for

»along

»100 I have been in some of those buildings.

»They do get really hot

»on them. 16.

»Okay.

»Growing growing so much.

»The next one is number 29. Cash Valley Cup.

»We fund them last year.

»We did, but I don't remember what.

»So,

»isn't this the one that they didn't ask last year, but the year before they did?

»I think they skipped a year.

»Got it right here.

»Not sure. But if I recall, isn't it is it a multi-day event?

»Yeah, it's that one in that they just cook all the soccer players.

»Yeah.

»Play at two in the afternoon.

»To me, I had them at 5,000, but

»that's what I did.

»Yeah. Just a half.

»I'm fine with 5,000. It brings a lot of people in. My kids are kids from Idaho Falls and American Fork. So, I

»think last year was their first year, so this is their second year. 5k. Okay.

»Yeah. Okay.

»5,000 and number 29.

»5,000.

»I think they use they use about every facility in the valley for the the van pretty well.

»Yeah. I It is quite big and it doesn't The thing I like about it being an overnighter is that you tend to get people who stay eating here and there

»Shakespeare 53. Everyone good? We're still good. Don't need a break. Okay. 53. Logan Shakespeare. Youth Shakespeare rent help.

»I recommended fully funding.

»I did too.

»$5,000 fully fund

»on number 50.

»The only question I had was I didn't Is it growing?

»It seemed to be

»their participation.

»Yeah. I didn't know if there I didn't

»I didn't see I was a little worried about it not growing but I hadn't still had them fully funded.

»So

»and the reason they had fully funded was because of a

»uh

»is that you?

»Oh we have a representative here from the Logan youth shakes.

»I just I had fully funded just because I you got to have something for everyone and that's another thing.

»Is your attendant is your membership growing or the participation? could you come to the the microphone and state your name, please?

»I'm Joe Liry. I'm the executive director. Um it fluctuates a lot, unfortunately, because we're a youth program. People age out. Um and so we've been trying to grow, but um also people like go off and go to college, which is great. We love that. Um, one of the things that's a benefit of this is all of the rent money that we're asking for is going to Cash Valley Center for the Arts. So, it's going to another group that um, also benefits the valley. Um, so we'd love for it to grow. We're working for it to grow. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Um, we're doing Hamlet right now, which doesn't bring in a lot of younger actors. Um, the next show is going to be a comedy, so likely better for some younger actors. Any other questions?

»I just I just look, you know, I was looking at the

»Yeah,

»it just kind of seems to be, you know, kind of level.

»Yeah.

»So, keep working on it.

»Thank you. And thank you for your support. We've really appreciated it.

»Thanks for what you do.

»Thank you. Number 65, Norah Eckles Harrison Museum of Art. Is this the like Sasquatch tales? Oh, the lure. The lure and the lure of the west.

»The lure lur lure like

»lure and lure. Yeah,

»that

»this lives in a totally different part of the university than where I live and so I feel comfortable stepping in on this one. The thing I really like about the applications that we're getting from the NEMA uh is that instead of just saying we want operating costs to support our general museum programming, but they say all right, this year we're going to do this and it's a specific event and they can use it to draw um and and there's a clear value ad uh for a program that happens and they do something unique and different or at least have done over the uh several times. Um I I proposed 5,000 for this one. Is that full? I'm

»That's full funding.

»I'm fine with that.

»Realize that last year's application was for the same thing.

»Yeah, this one is a little different.

»This is a little The last one was like

»this panel discussion.

»Well, this one last one was about Sasquatch or Bigfoot

»um legends.

»Yeah, I think this is just the pan this is just the panel discussion, right? Let's look. It's um

»they might read that.

»It says Norah Eckles Harrison Museum of Art support for and then it drops off on on what last year's thing was uh on on the previous year's funding.

»I thought it was like

»it was the Bigfoot one, wasn't it? And it was like

»which actually I did see it up. I guess it was probably up for most of the year. It was just there a few months ago and saw it.

»Kaye Coin came and spoke about it. I think this the the this is a standing exhibit is the the lure whatever learn lore of the west. So I think this is just the different

»it's a different application.

»Yeah. I think the standing exhibit is learn the lore but the last year was this Bigfoot. This year it's going to be

»Oh, gotcha.

»Yeah. Gotcha. It's the same exhibit but it's a different panel discussion

»but it's the same

»but it's the same topic of lur and lure of west

»so that you can have something different under lur

»they take a different aspect of it each year you're saying it better than I thank you

»all right

»I only had had them at a couple thousand

»I put 2500

»their application's only a couple thousand Yeah. Yeah. I just I

»I'm okay with 5,000.

»You're not okay?

»I'm okay with 5,000, but

»if if we need to compromise and drop a little, I'm fine with that. But I'm perfectly happy at five.

»Yeah. I said it's fine to keep it at five. Um sometimes I though I I do get, you know, I wonder it's like, well, it's Utah State. They're their own entity. they can do their own thing, but but you know, they're supporting the arts and it does bring people to see it. Um, it is an art museum. I want to say it's heavily traffic trafficked, but they do events up there that are uh quite a few events actually they do up there. Um, so they're getting a lot of people in. I I would do the five, I think, just

»Okay, I think we've got four of us at five. Okay,

»I think there's five. 5,000 at number 65

»for 87 Wellsville City.

»Is this the same application we've had?

»It kind of is. Yes.

»I'm surprised the courts aren't done yet.

»Bless bless their hearts.

»There's a definition to endure. Well, but I I

»if you keep coming, that's like the tennis courts that never died.

»But I think but I think we have we've always kept the funding fairly low. So, I'm not sure. I wish I knew more of the history of why isn't it done?

»Yeah.

»Um

»we've asked that we've asked that several times. So,

»because it was resurfacing last year.

»They got the foundation, you know, they got the foundation uh application too. What's

»there's 10,000 in 24 70,000 and 25 and another 110 would be 195 out of the 220

»but we're not funding 100% of the project.

»So this is phase three then

»phase three

»but that that's actually logical. It would only be 49% of the funding

»on this portion

»on this portion on this phase

»the other

»I'm sorry I got a These applications are not as well written. They're not as descriptive.

»That's what we've we've given feedback to Wellsville about this.

»Yes. Several times.

»There's been a multiple that Wellsville give us real bids and better content in your application.

»I think this is the what third year we've requested that.

»Yeah.

»I don't know what to do with that though. not getting

»because if we

»I recommended 100.

»I had it at 40. I don't know if that means we're just going to see it again for a fourth year.

»Yeah.

»Um

»I just wanted to fund it and get it out of there.

»I at some point they'll they'll make up the difference, right? I mean, they're getting impact fees. They've got a lot of building going on. They should be able to fund it themselves.

»Yeah. There's new sales tax revenue coming in there now, too. Yeah, it's

»Well,

»Dave, what did you have?

»I've got a new password to log in.

»I got logged out.

»I I think I Hang on. Let me let me go back to that one.

»What was our historic amount?

»Yeah,

»pardon.

»What did we get? Who said how much we'd given him previous years?

»I had the number 10,24 70,000 and 25. I didn't have any amount on that one. I just had one big question mark just because I was trying to read and trying to figure out what you figured out on

»tennis courts.

»Yeah. I

»when is Wimbledon gonna happen? You know,

»but we could 60,000 maybe they'll finish it.

»That's enough. They can make up the difference.

»Yeah. Let's give them I say let's give him the the 100,000 myself. Let's let's let's get her done. Let's get her done. Let's get have some faith in them and we get her done.

»But can we give some feedback that uh this has been a continual thing that like yeah rather it' be nice if we had if they had a full bid they were going to come up with so much money they just need this much from us not just keep phasing it out to the point that we just are funding the whole thing. It' be good if they got some feedback on that. I think that would be so 100,000 is that

»that's what I have.

»I I getting heartburn over that

»100,000 on 87.

»I have some of them are not happy.

»Okay, I won't write.

»Yeah, I I I'm not sure I feel as good about that, but I'm happy to as a member of this board, I'm totally content with being

»You don't need it unanimous. So if you have a majority then that's

»there there's there's four people in favor of a 100,000 and and that's what should happen because of the

»what's neat though is this is the dialogue that comes back to the council as we're going through things.

»Yeah.

»And these are when these things are brought up and we have specific questions. This is the dialogue then we Katherine and I share to the rest of the council on that final vote. We but we appreciate that. That's what's that's what's supposed to happen here. What did you feel comfortable with, Catherine?

»I was more along 60,000. I just feel like we're never gonna But again, I don't You guys can your four people pass it.

»I'm fine with 60, but uh I'd hope that we don't see them again next year.

»Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. If we keep underfunding them, they'll just

»Well, but we're not really underfunding.

»I don't think we're They just need to put something in it themselves is all we're saying.

»Said that though because that that is the question. Are we underfunding or are they just not coming up with enough?

»Yeah.

»Well, they said it was only half of their budget, 49%.

»But we put in the rest of the other half in previous years is what we're saying.

»That's what I'm saying. It's like we're we're really just paying for the whole thing.

»Okay. I see what you're saying.

»I I I will say if the trails proposal comes back again next year in the same form that it came in this year, I am voting zero. uh of um and not to be a grump uh or or anything like that, but the quality, the application, the detail, those

»from Wellsville.

»Yeah, we we are in on the tennis court one. We we bought into it. I I support seeing it through,

»but but I I am um I I I guess we haven't had a vote on what will happen on the trails this year, and maybe it will pass. I I am I will disclose that my vote was not supported.

»Mine was

»um but we got to get some improvement and strength in these applications uh from coming coming from Wellsville. Um I don't know that we have a great way to provide that feedback other than to say it here.

»So messengers, right? Who gets paid to do that?

»That's a duties assigned. That's so what what I do is I will send out to all of the applicants. I can send an email and I've done this in the past that the council or the the board has provided feedback. Please listen to the to the recording.

»Yeah,

»that's how I can get the feedback for them.

»Do you want to send a message to Wellsville by not by terribly cutting this request then?

»Well, that that was my original recommendation on the tennis courts, but I can see this board has moved past that and I'm not going to a sticking point for a majority of the board getting to where where the majority wants to be.

»The trails application was very vague.

»Yeah. Very.

»I I don't Yeah, we can get to that one in a minute, but

»we'll hit trails. I don't know what you're talking here, but uh I'm I'm with you guys on seeing the trend court through. Let's see it through. I'm I'm still in favor. Give 100,000.

»Let's get that. So, you have four

»I think you have four votes at 100,000. we'll fully fund it'll be down but now we'll go back up

»but then but it's then fully funded and get it done.

»Okay. Well, but I guess with that conversation with the trails if if that's one

»I I I do not want to fund the trails. It's just we want to put trails somewhere in our city

»done and then uh we can unfund that and let them strengthen that application.

»We got to have a stronger application on the trails one

»that's good

»myself.

»Yeah. I don't want to put the trails.

»Okay. 100,000 then. Are we okay?

»100,000 on number 87.

»And I guess we'll we'll address the trails when we get there.

»Some of them are not happy.

»That was

»they're third from the bottom. So

»yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's why they're down there because

»next one is

»number 26. Cash Valley Community Theater Alliance. Bruce already alluded to this.

»Oh, is this the the the shared sound system?

»Yes.

»Yeah. I funded it at 60,000. Let's do that. Or actually, it's 6613 and4 cents.

»Just kidding.

»Quick question. I I good grief. I had a grumpy go this cycle.

»I was grumpy.

»Um, is there is all of that funding for the shared sound system? And if not, do we really want to put funding into an umbrella organization for the theater companies as opposed to putting it into the theater companies themselves?

»Okay, he'll go ahead. You can answer that. Can

»it is and they have it is for their sound system and for an expanded sound system. Uh so that if they have conflicting dates of use, they can divide it and use it between two theaters or if they have a big production, the basic sound system does not provide enough for a larger production. And so yes, they will share it all. They have all joined in the application. I think it's great. They some of these present up in Sky View High School. The Sky View High School sound system does not

»have what they need.

»Where's this equipment housed? Like where do they keep it? Is it at the El Meas Theater that it's kept or

»you come to the microphone and state your name and thank you. My name is Dakota Dewal and I'm the secretary for the Cash Valley Community Theater Alliance. Uh our organization is a new organization. We're trying to build collaboration and shared infrastructure for the three different theaters. So we are separate and isolated from each theater to prevent conflicts of interest or bias towards one company over another. Um, and right now our intent, we have a member of our board who's willing to house that equipment in some personal storage that they have available. So,

»and and this stuff is probably used all the time for almost every show that

»Yeah, every production needs microphones. It is the most critical component of quality of production is the sound. And so

»I thought the actors were

»actors years all these years.

»Well, if you can't hear them,

»if you can't hear the actors, then all of their efforts go to waste. So that's why we want good sound.

»This equipment that we have available is aging out and as Bruce was mentioning, there are limitations on how much we can cover. Uh what the theater companies will do most often is either share mics in during the course of the show and that rapid transition of a microphone has high risk of damaging the equipment and so the best course of action is to have a microphone per person who needs to be miked and that's what we're trying to do with this request. Um, and so but like this is something that's always been independent like so let's say the Utah festival companies using uh the Ellen Eckles Theater. The Elen Eckles Theater never provided this type of equipment. I guess

»they have some equipment available. I'm not sure at the Eckles if they offer microphones specifically. They will have like a console available if you're renting their space.

»Yeah.

»Uh but it's

»it's just I'm just asking I've just never known how that's actually handled. Yeah, it's typically brought in private by

»up to now you've rented the equipment, correct?

»Correct.

»Okay.

»So, this organization that's newly created.

»Yep.

»To get this funding to get all this equipment. Are they do they charge all these other theater companies?

»Our intent right now is not to charge rental fees to the companies.

»So, that that will be available for for use for th those companies.

»Yep. as well as the children's programs for both uh music theater west and cash theater since both are doing children's programs this year.

»That's that's that's a to me that that is a good utilization of some money.

»Yeah, exactly

»right there. I think that's that's

»consolidating resources.

»They've come together and they work together. You need to know too that as they schedule they try to schedule so that they don't

»overlap

»run over the top of each other.

»They they want to cooperate with each other. That's the biggest reason for the modular structure of this request is that the children's camps are the most likely to overlap with the adult productions because the children's camps have more flexibility. Uh usually the adult productions are limited by the availability of the space that's being rented whether that be Sky View or the Eckles or one of the theaters on Center Street.

»Cool.

»I recommended fully funding this one. I like this project.

»I did too. And that was a full amount because I joked earlier that we said 60 but it's actually 60,613.

»I'll recommend that Bruce is telling the truth.

»Full funding Elma on

»60,613.

»Yep.

»All right.

»On number 26. Number 34. The next one is the Cash Youth Orchestras.

»I recommended 7500.

»I support but

»I had him at six, but that's 7500.

»I can tell who's the music. I was at four.

»I I'm at three.

»I had him at four.

»We've historically funded them. Uh in the last uh four years we went zero 1,000 3,000 5,000

»has been the trajectory.

»Yeah.

»Um they do some cool stuff. I know some young people who who work with them.

»Are they growing?

»Yes.

»Yeah.

»Anything that

»that's why I think I went to six. So

»anything that gets kids doing something like I said before other than video games and sitting around watching something. They they requested 10, but their budget showed a $2,500 surplus. That's how I came up with 7,500.

»I'm I'm flexible with going up. If we end up in the six

»Oh, I was going to do 75 like

»Yeah, let's do

»75. Okay. 75. I think we they become conditioned to just know they're going to ask more than they need knowing that we'll counter.

»So, I think that's 7,500 on number 34.

»46 Logan Community Foundation.

»This is one of the This is like a theater summer camp.

»This is They keep changing their name.

»Yeah.

»Two Two requests, isn't there?

»They have two.

»Yes.

»Yeah. This is one of the theater companies.

»Um what's the other number?

»48. Oh, sorry. 46 and 47. 47. Okay. Oh man, they got lots of money.

»Uh Bruce, what does your formula say? Uh um I guess the formula doesn't help with the summer camp, does it? Have we already gone over the other request from this group?

»No.

»No, theirs is lower. 47 is lower.

»Okay.

»46. I thought they had a jump.

»Oh, yeah.

»They do. They have a previous request.

»I had them at 40,000.

»I have at 42. 40 is also in uh

»anybody have another a different number than 45?

»Please give them 45 last year.

»I recommended 45 again this year.

»45.

»Yeah, they don't do as many productions as the other. And I have in my notes, um, I don't trust my own judgment as much as Bruce's, but I have in my notes that the school uh, academy and summer camp had funds from last year that haven't been spent yet.

»This is their second priority or in their ranking.

»Uh, yes, I think that the summer camp is the lower priority for them,

»but we we ranked it as a higher priority across this this group.

»Yes. Um,

»there was I made a note. I'd have to look that says there's inconsistencies between the tax return and their budget.

»Well, this is why it's fun having a CPA.

»I don't very non-emotional approach to it. I love it.

»So, 40 or 45? What do you

»He's looking He's got some inconsistencies that he's looking at.

»Yeah.

»Well, some of the salaries in their production

»the salaries in they in their budget did not agree with what the salaries were in in the tax return. Maybe I'm just not reading their budget correctly, but uh anyway, I recommended 45,000.

»A lot of their salaries they have kind of there it's based per show it looks like. And uh but it seems to be kind of like a repetition of this like three Aladdin. They had three shows there. It's always ding ding ding, but then you add all those up

»over there to what the total salary is. So it's kind of weird. I think the numbers we have are 40 to 45. Is there another number that we're kind of trying to

»No, if there's or are we talking about on summer camp or on the

»on summer camp?

»Summer camp.

»Yeah, I was a little lower than that, but I'm fine with 40. And it is

»40,000. It's only 13% of their, you know, what they're really asking is. So, if we go 40 45 either one,

»let's go 45.

»Okay. 45.

»Elma, it's 45,000 on number 46.

»45,000.

»Oh, we're on the last page. Everyone good? Do we need a break or just keep going?

»Go for it.

»Okay, I'm going to keep rolling. Number 56, Mend City. Oh, we already decided this one, didn't we?

»This was zero.

»This was zero because we funded the other one.

»Next one. Smithfield City History Museum phase 4. Is this

»is this one you're voting on Dave?

»You know, we

»this the ADA great big chunk of money that kind of pushed through that project. Then all a sudden, I don't know where phase four popped out.

»Was this the ADA one?

»Yeah. Well,

»I can't. My internet just only gave me two hours.

»So, if I remember

»popped out,

»resign up.

»Sign in.

»Yeah, you have to resign in.

»There there was something in the application about making an upper floor accessible and usable space.

»Yes.

»Uh and they can't comply presumably with ADA without an elevator and therefore can't use that space. Um

»yeah,

»the thing that bothered me in this application. It says we're almost ready for occupation for occ. So, we've been funding this all along and they still aren't ready to occupy.

»They did some, you know, they did some like it was major renovation, shoring it all up and everything. As far as physical aspects, they did some pretty I thought they were ready and going because they've had people, you know, during their celebrations and had it open and everything and going and I was shocked that

»says we're almost ready for occupancy.

»They want a wheelchair lift is what this is to go to. And uh

»maybe can they not open without that?

»They just can't use the space upstairs. But they should be able to still open. That's just that'd be the only part that's not maybe a but I thought all of it was

»this is all the realms of the others that uh we're aing along a project that keeps new expenses that like it would be nice if there was a final bid at the very beginning to say hey it's going to be

»$ 1.5 million project we're paying 50% 500,000 from you guys back and then it moves forward. It just seems that they're just yeah just the peacemail approach makes it difficult for us to know what we're actually what what participation we're

»you know it I have to speak up that this is one of the few museums we just don't have requests from hardly any museums except for daughter you know the pioneer over here and the

»and USU

»American West there just a very few of the museums which uh this is supposed to support in some ways.

»What's the main museum item you're going to have? Is it history of

»it? Is the history? It's the Smithfield history. History of the

»Yeah. And they have a very, you know, a strong working uh group that are quite passionate. Sometimes a lot of those organizations have very very passionate

»almost to where they make history.

»Yeah. But I'm uh

»says with funds from previous grants, contributions, and donations, the main floor of the museum is almost ready for occupation and displays.

»Public access to the upstairs would double the display space by making approximately 1300 square feet of additional room available to showcase more of Smithville's 164 years of history. There's is it fair

»they can still have access without the lift, right?

»Not for public not

»uh not for public use

»because it doesn't have the ADA component

»unless they have some way to grandfather the building in under ADA. Um they they if it's going to be public they they could use it for storage or for administrative offices or or those kinds of things. But if it's public space, my understanding is

»you know the the 30,50 and 50 and 50 that was been given to them each year. I was uh you know it just says oh that has been utilized. I wish there would have been a little more progressive detail in their application when you know they would have typed in this is what we did exactly that this is where we're at. This is where we're at you know for each of those funds. You can read that other places, but I I like it in that the wraps brief report how the money what it came to us, what it was util how it was utilized. I wish they'd have been more detailed in that part of it.

»Is this one a fair one to say let's maybe put a pin in it and come back and see what we've got left over? Um

»I Dave, you're being persuasive to me.

»Have a better conversation with Jess Lewis. I I recommend my initial thinking was not to fund, but

»uh and and there's a part of me that would really like to see what their numbers look like when they open on the ground floor before we invest in doubling their their square footage. But if we've got some space left, um it is a worthy project that I think I I I care a great deal about accessibility, you're going to have enough money.

»That statement in there just kind of it's interesting because it has been open really

»and during the celebrations and health days and stuff, they've had it that's been kind of part of their, hey, we've announced it and it's been, you know, they've been announced that it's open, come and visit it and everything.

»So, apparently what they're thinking is that it can't it hasn't been opened upstairs yet.

»Do they have enough to display?

»I upstairs.

»Oh, I'm sure they will. There's a lot of there's a everyone saves everything in East Smithfield and then all of a sudden their their kids say what do we do with it?

»Donate it to

»I got 18 totes right now up in a storage container that

»would anyone like too good for the

»museum trade you for my mother's stuff.

»What was the total cost of that uh that lift that?

»60,000 56. What was it? 77% of their entire budget is the

»Yeah.

»wraps.

»I recommended 40,000.

»Let's go with 40.

»Okay.

»Yeah. Let's just put it down then.

»Yeah.

»And put a period behind.

»Done. Your project is done.

»And it better be open.

»Yeah.

»Number 7340,000. And I highlighted it in yellow. Do you want to Yeah,

»revisit it.

»We need to come back

»possibly.

»Wellsville. Wellsville. Okay.

»Wellsville's foundation.

»This is not Wellsville City. This is their tabernacle.

»Yeah.

»Preservation foundation.

»Tied to tourism or recreations art project. My my only headache on this one was a cool building, cool project, lots of heritage, but what's the tie to and do they use the tabernacle to host events that would be arts and culture related? Um,

»you know, how much is it community events? What do they, you know,

»I've actually never seen it open when I've been out there for any event.

»Um, I don't know.

»They have it during their Labor Day.

»It's open then. for power state.

»Yeah. And I don't think I've been to that event, but it's been a while since I've been out that way for different events, but um in the past I've always wanted to walk in it.

»Exterior maintenance,

»but those are really good questions that you're bringing up. I think is

»Yeah. What is it tied towards towards

»I recommended fully funding. It's

»I'm glad they're not asking for a lot.

»We've invested in that building before and this is for the exterior to protect and maintain it. I suggest that we do it

»and it and this funding the money was actually kind of going to things that that literally could not be like the rental of the lift, you know, they had to have for eight weeks to complete. I mean, it's just things that they they couldn't otherwise get help from the community probably.

»And but I think there's still quite a bit of donated labor looking into this thing to do it. I I I like and commend all of that stuff. The the only question I have is

»will this building at some point, whether now or at some point in the future, is there an intent intent that the tabernacle could host concert series or

»that's their intent. They want to get it restored to the point of being able to

»do that. And if it's helping them along because they're not quite there yet, then I'm open to that. I think it fits.

»Yeah. But if not, then I'm if it's just to restore a historic building, I I I have pause. But I I it sounds like it meets the terms and at that rate, I'd fully fund because it's a great match.

»I think they envisioned it kind of like the Logan Tabernacle where they would have community events coming in and concerts and lectures.

»They've reached out to me.

»I say fully fund.

»Okay.

»Yeah. That's

»17,675.

»Okay. Number 39. Oh, did we talk about this one? Oh, no. We

»No, this is the Hyram City, the children's holiday theater.

»This one is a new request

»and I kind of looking at Nibbly Cities and Smithfield cities. I kind of looked at them for funding. So, I thought it would be in the same vein as the amount of funding we gave NibLy and Smithfield.

»I suggested 2,000.

»I'm along those same lines.

»I agree.

»Anybody else have

»What? We bump it to five.

»I was going to give them five.

»Yeah.

»I mean, I think they they need to go and talk to those people

»and see what they do with the vol.

»And that's again, this is they're just go and you hate to

»get some get some help from I mean maybe what Smithfield Smithfields is what 3500

»you do 3500 what Smithfields get

»okay let's be fair

»you look at how many kids they get involved in nibbly

»that's cajillion children

»tons of kids

»3500

»3500 on 39

»on 39

»84 ballet dance and ensemble.

»They have banners on Main Street.

»Yeah,

»I noticed that while I was driving here today. This is one that I noticed a big change.

»This was kind of a worry to me. I had them at 5,000.

»I had them at 5,000, too. That must be historic funding.

»Yeah, that's where I just There was just a a worry in reading the application. It

»It was not a excitement. Yeah, I think

»it just didn't I'm going, you know, it just didn't seem like, hey, we're let's just, you know, this is an organization that's really getting, you know, that's going and

»supported by the by the

»Yeah. So,

»I think based on historic funding, is everyone okay with 5,000?

»Y

»5,000

»on 84. Yeah. Now, we are on Bridger Folk Music Society 7. I had them at 1,000 but

»I had them fully funed at 1600.

»I think we can fund them at

»1,600 I think is good for

»I had them at 1,000 too but looking at things I think

»1600

»it's only 26

»application there's no mention of how many concerts there no

»detail reporting how they used the prior year there's no prior year budget I concerts.

»I felt that there was a general deterioration in the way the applications were prepared this year.

»Yes.

»I think that people need to listen to the minutes of this meeting and prepare their it's this isn't just a money grab that this is

»we're fine keeping a fund balance.

»Can we write a letter as a board and have you put that out?

»I mean, we can and we can send it to all the applicants. This is not a money grab that we are we Oh, a letter of encouragement.

»Letter of encouragement.

»Well, I think

»we are not obligated to to give the funds. We can keep a fund balance.

»Yeah,

»I think with this one in in the notes if you could make sure they get information on that that application wasn't exact.

»You said you were grumpy. I think next year if it's similar similar.

»Okay. Number 19.

»Number 19. Cash Trails Alliance Ricks to steel connector trail match.

»I read through this.

»This was um had a $57,000 request. I don't remember much of it.

»I have this at 50,000.

»I had it 50,000.

»I have it at zero.

»I did.

»Um I it it produces a trail where there was none. It improves connectivity in the network. Um I I um I have their their other application I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about but this one seems to me to be something I'm excited about.

»I had at 50,000 as well

»the uh their application. They said an application had been submitted for a grant to the Utah Outdoor Recreation. Anything that we give them I think should be contingent upon Oh, if they get funds from the

»if they get if they get the if they get funds from the outdoor recreation grant,

»then then I will support it. But if they don't,

»no.

»A contingent. So, can we put an asterisk by this?

»Contingent upon receiving

»I think we can, but I will double check. But we could

»I don't remember that.

»Yeah, I've never heard of that. Um but typically when you do apply for grants and if you don't get the other then you shouldn't get the other funding. So yeah we can we can make a note of that.

»So they may be using this as a matching grant then

»it is it was I think it was specifically for a match.

»Okay.

»Yes. Well, the reason I put zero on both these on it was a 16. It's 18 and 19. Mhm.

»Yeah. I put zero on both those is to me both those where they're at, you know, their their location, which they need to be working very closely with who service

»that ought to be also working and I I think they ought to be then working with our trails, Cash County's trails. I think I think what they're doing I just don't think a separate entity. I think they ought to be working specifically in more detail with them and getting the grants together uh rather than uh come through the wraps. I don't know. I just I just think that that's I think the trails that we need to really really be contingent and working strongly on are those that are within the base of the valley where more a stronger base of the people would probably utilize up there. I think that they need to be tied, you know, and I'm sorry, but anytime you work with the Forest Service, what would cost me $10, they'll spend 150,000. I swear, you know, just, you know, and and you going, are you kidding me? It's just I just see I don't know. I'm I'm worried about the you know the the the purpose of a lot of that and there should be a lot more dialogue I guess with the county in and all those together and I'm not seeing that in their application and I think they've been unsuccessful last year in an application

»we also turned down I think there were some reason the only application we did give them was a couple years ago there was 12,000 that was given to them at that point Well, their second ask is, you know, for operational costs and it's like, okay, you know, so they're kind of seems like they are running their own little

»trail and so that those things operational costs rather than concrete or timber, you know,

»the the operational cost application gives me substantial heartburn. Um the on uh playing a little devil's ad I I see totally where you're coming from. If there was a NEPA application required for this that oh that gives me a lot of pause.

»Um but um by the same token I full disclosure I'm a mountain biker. People come from all over the state to ride the Jardine Juniper Trail. And while they're doing that they stop and eat in our restaurants and stay in our hotels. Stump Hollow. There's the the the word is out that that Logan Canyon is a great place to go bike um and a better trail network, but nobody ever went to mountain bike in Richfield, Utah because there were not good places to bike there. Um several years ago, they installed a really impressive trail network. And now their stress is, well, why are all these people here staying in our hotels and and eating in our restaurants? we got and and the the power of of a strong trail network to bring folks in is substantial. It's a totally different set of folks maybe than we're meeting through some of the other things. And I do think we need to have a robust discussion. In some ways, I feel like some aspects of the I I I don't see my role on this board as being in a policymaking role. I want those decisions to get pushed to the council, not to this group. But if we start getting asked for administrative funding for trails organizations, it feels like it pushes us in that direction. My inclination on that is to say we're already funding one through the county and I don't think that I want to be in the business of funding additional trails organizations. If there are community or minded organizations, volunteers and they can then then we nudge them to work with the administrative formal administrative support structure that's already in place through the county government and um and and and maybe that maybe that means the policy push needs to be the fort trail construction for this organization that needs to happen as well. I don't know that that I quite feel that way, but I don't know. There's a lot of words to think about that are not worth much, but those are well said.

»Those is well said.

»Very well said.

»Yeah. Then of course, if we're talking this 50,000, we were saying it'd be contingent on if they get the other grant and if not then this won't happen.

»If they get that, then my vote would be 50,000.

»Yeah. I'm okay with there as well. Yeah. But but back to the organization. Yeah. So 50,9 but with that caveat

»covenant caveat, whatever you want.

»Okay. 47 Logan Community Foundation.

»This is the theater company.

»Oh yeah.

»So we already decide Oh, did we already decide on this one? No.

»No, that was the school the the summer session component.

»Yeah. This is their number one.

»This is the one where I want to know what Bruce's formula says.

»I think they only do two shows in this group, right?

»50,000.

»So that put us at 50

»50,000.

»Everyone okay? 50,000.

»Yeah.

»50,000 on 47.

»Uhhuh. On 47. 82. This is the USU summer citizens supplemental class.

»Yeah.

»Thing that Jamie told us about. I had zero.

»After I talked to Jamie, I kind of understand it a little bit better. If they can come here and get my parents

»have what is it called when they can go in and sit in a class, audit a class,

»and they've really enjoyed that in the past. if this allows them to do something similar to that then without having to pay all the other fees associated then

»I I have to I it's been a long time since I was an instructor for USU summer citizens but I'm going to sit this one out just out of an abundance of caution

»yeah understand

»I had 10,000

»yeah I I would do 10 I I do think what they're offering

»it's just I'm glad they're still doing it when they actually I guess got rid of the

»the housing part I thought, "Oh, no. This is going to kill it." And

»um but but part of that drive to bring them was is the

»Well, we talked this slightly earlier, Bruce, but it's the opera company. It's this Utah State provided educational fun things for them to do. Um seminars, uh training courses, and you know, and so I'm glad they're keeping that going and and I think this is a gesture that we appreciate it too. And and if it's opening up to more of the community, even better.

»We need to support this. This is our wraps tax money. We need to support the summer citizens program. Let's just be honest about it. If we don't do this, we won't have

»Did you fund it, Bruce?

»I'm looking right at him.

»I didn't because I remember back when they were part of it and then they said, "No, we're not going to do this anymore." And then the chamber took over and now they want back in. But it's back in in a different way, I think, now that we had that explanation.

»I I think I think part of it is they they're just still doing the same courses that they were doing um that they've always been doing. And I think this is just supporting them to keep doing it or or else they'll probably just stop doing it, too. Wasn't a lot of this we could look to fund a brochure, the printing of a brochure

»um

»that um they were going to hand out that showed all of the courses they were offering.

»Look at that. Yeah, that would be excessive amount there for that.

»Um but you guys will remember the history of the Summerfest um that it was ran by IHC for many years. They dropped it and it it fell into Logan City's hands and Logan City ran it for about four or five years and quite frankly it was really funny as Logan City was saying um this place this thing is losing money. We're going to get rid of it. It just really is just let's just say government didn't know how to run it well and once it spun off of um Logan City, it's been a highly great event and it's grown you know way more. I mean it was dying. Logan City was I'm not to blame the city but just it just wasn't being ran to be successful and it was literally dying and they wanted to kill it and u it's amazing that spun off and was successful. Um I guess that said similar to this um you know it be nice that Utah State threw off this thing saying hey we don't want this anymore but I'm I'm glad that they're still willing to participate and help it be successful. They are a big part of the appeal I think of

»they kind of are

»this is and it's still USU housing

»there's a duplication of efforts though

»yes

»because they included in their budget are hotels and travel piums so are they going to be going to Arizona too in addition to

»our chamber people

»oh because this yet this is a

»creating and putting information

»they might be part of the delegation you could say to because I know they go down there and educate people to come up here. Um, I'd assume they're part, you know, I guess Julie Hollis has gone on that trip too to help say, "Hey, this is where you should come." Um, so I'd call it more of a just marketing for Cash Valley, but we could not.

»You said 10,000.

»Yeah, that's

»what I had was 10,000, Kathy.

»Mhm.

»We have three. Do we have four?

»Extension. Why can't they get together with the chamber? And

»that's what I'm

»And that's probably what should happen with that.

»It It just seems like we can get more if we do it separate.

»But that probably that would include though then the chamber saying, "Oh, don't worry. We'll pay you to do these courses up there." Um because I'm sure it's taking staff and personnel costs. Sometimes it's hard to see them up. I I will break my vow of silence for just a moment.

»Simply to say I I do think the application would be stronger together.

»Yes. with the chamber going in and USU as a subawwardee uh and saying we will if if USU needs resources to do stuff have uh have the chamber put in for the resources and say we if you fund this we'll provide these things to to USU so that they can give us space for lecture halls uh uh instructors to participate or the like um I it is my estimation that would make a stronger application that doesn't necessarily help make a decision on what to do with the proposal that's before the group right now.

»Well, why don't we why don't we do the 10 and tell them those very words that we won't fund this next year if we see this the same way um and say that we'd like to see it as a joint with the with the cash chamber and whether they're we'll let them worry about how they figure that out. But let's just say maybe that's we give them that head to say next year

»we'd like to see you just combine with the group that's already doing it

»and and this partly comes because they did back away from

»carrying the event.

»Thanks Joe. 10,000

»10,000

»uh 82 cash valley center for the arts out of area marketing.

»As as much as I sometimes struggle with the marketing, it is something that's listed as like our call for proposals does say we fund this

»that it is practical use.

»Um so while I uh sometimes wonder about how many flyers we might print and distribute, um it it it's very much in bounds for for the intent of the funding. So, I I have a hard time wholesale dismissing it, even if I have some instinct to be skeptical.

»Yeah,

»I had them for 10.

»I'd be fine with 10.

»I put them for 12. The

»Yeah, 12. They keep track of the people that are coming from Salt Lake and from Ogden and they do a lot of their marketing through the internet and they keep track of where tickets are being bought and marketing to that area and they do a pretty good job.

»I agree. Um, and also this also I mean with the marketing when it's outside the area in a way it's just it's doing what uh Julie Halls also does and it's is pushing

»pushing cash

»saying hey we're a great place great community we're a great place to live look what we have going on

»we don't want to do that so much anymore it's getting

»I know we calm it down a little bit particularly keep it away from California

»come and visit spend your money and then go back

»yeah Um, did you say 12? Did somebody say 12?

»I did.

»The full funding. What does anybody else say?

»I'm fine with that. Okay.

»Okay. Full funding at 12,000.

»Twist your arm.

»Yeah.

»Okay. Number 37. This is that proposal. I don't know if I understood it all the way from the North Logan Library. Is somebody here that

»was crazy.

»Ryan could speak to it. I have

»Oh, Ryan is here. Yeah. Ryan, do you mind coming and introducing yourself?

»Clear us up here. This is the friends of the

»Yes.

»So I'm Ryan Campbell, North Logan City Parks,

»but so the friends of the library have their own separate account and so the friends of the library were going to put in the 125,000 to do the match with this. So it's in their courtyard area. The library and community center are being rebuilt. And so out there in that area, they want to do a lot of programming in conjunction with the library that would be out in that space that's right there by the the North Logan City Library.

»And then the what events are you planning or is the Friends of the North Logan City Library?

»This is North Logan City.

»Is it a separate 501c3?

»Separate one. Separate 501c3. So, North Logan City, we are going to come in and we're going to be doing a bunch of the work like um we're going to be doing the landscaping and trying to cut down costs with that. Um, and so they were hoping to do um like library events like they've had magic shows in the past and they've had people come and do zoo stuff and then just other uh yeah, city events that would be in conjunction with just the library.

»You've got music, you've got the the magic show is always big. They've got animal events, lots of sort the kinetic learning and cultural activities. And this the site for this is where you got the old library that's being renovated a little bit. Uh you've got the new city offices and then there's the big community center uh behind that the library is using for programming. All of those were paid for with municipal dollars or or donations. The friends of the North Logan Library have substantial support from Wasatch Properties in Deoy Hansen and are willing to put up half the funding to cover this beyond what the city's already doing in kind with landscaping, grading, all that kind of stuff to put together an outdoor infrastructure space uh where activities that are currently running at 50 to 60,000 attendees a year uh can get bigger and be more successful because there's a better space to accommodate them. U and actually right now the space that used to accommodate the outdoor events at the library is um

»it's gone

»dirt and chunks of concrete. Uh so uh something has to go in there eventually. Uh the other thing that's nice and from my perspective, granted this is I I have a little insider background with North Logan City, but um the f the nice thing about working through the friends of the library is that there's a commitment for opportunities for more funding to grow to cover the costs of putting on the events and activities and support the expansion. Uh so my conversations with uh representatives from North Logan and the friends, but correct me if I'm wrong, Ryan, is that the thinking is they're not going to the friends aren't going to come back and ask RAPs to fund the magic show or or or the animal events or scale scales and tales, I think they call it, and those kinds. They're asking for funding for the infrastructure so that they can go get the private dollars from a donor where they already have an inn and amp up the programming to the next level. It's just the physical infrastructure that they're looking for support on here.

»How many phases?

»This is we're just doing the one phase. This we better have it done. I don't want to do any more phases.

»Okay.

»I recommend a 100,000 Anybody else have any thoughts on it?

»I think that seems good. Um, that's impressive that uh the Friends of Library has been so proactive that way. That's

»I'll support the 100.

»Okay, it looks like we have a number of 100,000.

»Thank you.

»Um, thank you for answering our questions on number 37.

»Okay. And I think we were um Allan uh agreement number 40 would be zero. Is that correct? We funded the other project behind city. Moving on to number 49, Logan Downtown Alliance.

»Yeah, this is one I was talking about that uh last year they got 20,000 and I was surprised they asked for less.

»Yeah, but they split off into six other groups.

»It seems like all now they're doing pumpkin, you know, all these other

»It sounds like a syndicate.

»Yeah, I struggled with this one. It's a positive.

»Yeah. No, those are the groups. Yeah, they're two different groups.

»Yeah, these these events are not on the scale of of of what some of the others were that that we funded.

»Yeah.

»Um

»yeah,

»some amount of support is is probably appropriate. Um

»I mean I put like when trick-or-treating is just I mean thousands of kids are going to come walk up and down Main Street. Anyway, the business it's kind of outstanding. I don't know what we really have to have trick-or-treating downtown here.

»Oh, you should see the amounts of children there are downtown.

»Wall to kids.

»I I mean, I don't know if that's really

»How do you guys make anybody give all the way? Do you put give rings away?

»I think I I don't know. It's

»Do you give rings away?

»Well, maybe the other question that

»um that I I have on this is what's the tie the ties to recreation? I I could maybe trick-or-treating is recreational and I need to have a broader scope of what what that means and and I'm I didn't mean to sound flippant on that. I I and I'm I'm open to thinking of that broad broadly. Um tourism pro, you know, or tourism promotion maybe there's some links there. I I feel like the connection to core purposes here could be clearer in it. It it may be present, but I feel like a stronger application would make them clearer. um that than what I got out of it in this go around. I recommended 5,000 for funding on this one.

»I re I recommended 1,000. I didn't I didn't really see these as anybody else have numbers. Bruce is furiously flipping through papers.

»I have 5,000

»5,000

»probably six or seven events. You know, it's the trick-or-treating, it's the Easter, it's the uh there is a group that's been trying to do the Wednesday market there that

»gingerbread house event which has become huge.

»Um and that does that has a good draw. Um and then now ghost tours I don't exactly throw on this list though it is on there um just because it's it's a uh you do have to buy a ticket. It's not a free event.

»Yeah, but there's a lot of people that do that. Yeah, a lot of people do. I've never done it.

»I wanted to. It's usually physics.

»Just Yeah.

»Over half of the expense is just to pay someone.

»Well, of course, I guess events don't happen for free.

»No, but but they're hiring

»Yeah.

»They're hiring, you know, someone to then, I guess, coordinate these things, which I thought I would thought that this would be a more of a volunteer organization kind of thing, but Well, it takes a takes employ, you know, takes a person to make things happen. Um, but, uh, we gave him 20,000 last year. Um, I would think at least 10 would be these are majority free events for the community.

»I think I saw it was

»the request was 20, I think.

»Oh, that's it.

»Yeah, we gave him 10 last year. I gave them the reason I reduced it to five is because of the new entity and the money that I was going to give them for the pumpkin

»and that's why I reduced this. That's why why I asked why can't we get together on this? They used to be

»well yeah they used to be well

»I don't know the center street group just born themselves out of nowhere and then and they originally were with the cash chamber but I think they left the cash chamber so they could just be their own nonprofit. Um so I don't know there that's a different group altogether that that really is a small group not representation of the whole of downtown where this group is the representation of the whole of downtown. Is Logan City paying anything?

»Did you look in their budget?

»I don't owe it mean to the dental ants.

»Nothing.

»They used to.

»Nothing.

»Yeah.

»Go 7,500 in between and we'll

»go from there.

»75. Okay. 7,500 on

»500 on 49. Okay. 83 is

»Utah Symphony.

»Utah Opera.

»This is the one I was amazed at the salaries on. Was

»elevated tour concert.

»World quality people. And certainly they fit in that category. Oh my goodness. Am I confused on this one? It says Wellsville, right?

»But it's at the American Heritage.

»But the American Heritage.

»Okay. So that's where they're Okay. Cuz I the other day someone said that they were coming to Logan,

»but it's not the same event.

»Is that where it's it's just going to be there?

»There.

»Okay.

»That's what it's understand. I just uh yeah, I had a conversation. They said that they were bringing it to Logan and

»if the salaries in this one were

»and this is Yeah. This is a organization that is 100% out of the valley.

»Yeah.

»Uh they're based out of what is it? Bountiful or something like that.

»Well, that's where their address is, but they're

»I mean they do it looks like they do concerts all over the state, but they're that they're doing a series of seven concerts around the state

»and one of them is here in northern Utah. And uh basically the application is asking us to give $35,000 to uh advertise to promote the program here. It will be fully attended. there won't be in an empty seat. Uh the interesting thing was is that I analyzed it and took all of the promotion. They uh I think it was $175,000 that they were allocating to promotion and divide by that by seven. That's $25,000 per site. But when they put the budget together for the Wellsville site, they put in $35,000 for the promotion for the Wellsville site. And that's where they come up with the 35,000 that they're So they're asking us to contribute more than 17th of their advertising budget. I thought was interesting. But anyway,

»so it sounds like you have a proposal of 25,000.

»No.

»Oh,

»my I'm I'm I'm proposing 10,000. Oh,

»they're going to be full whether they advertise or not.

»Yeah.

»Well, I think I think it'll be a big event.

»Is the concert?

»It will be a big event.

»Oh, yeah.

»Is the concert conditional on our funding?

»No, it's already scheduled.

»Yeah.

»Okay. And I think we need to give them something. They may They have a huge budget and you look at the tax return and they're

»Yeah. Their salaries are way up. They just see that we have this funding source.

»I think that we need to show some kind of a token

»that they would come up here. I mean, it will be full.

»There will be a lot of people.

»Yeah,

»but my recommendation was 10,000.

»I'll go with that. I like that. 10,000.

»10,000.

»10,000 on 83.

»83. And then we had 7,000 on 52 for the Logan.

»Yes.

»Events and activities.

»So we're at number six, Fair River Heritage Area Ukulele.

»Festival.

»How How are we doing on dollars?

»Oh, you're okay.

»We're fine.

»Okay.

»Especially when it's $9,000.

»Okay. I said I didn't give anything.

»I didn't give him I want

»I'd like to see him.

»Okay. If it's a big theme, make it a bigger theme and then

»come back, you know.

»I'd give him 3,000 to get off the ground.

»Oh, we have our proponent. Yeah, you can come and speak at that microphone and and introduce yourself, please.

»Um,

»did I read in there that you have done something in prior years? Yes. So, they just started the festival in like 2013 and then when COVID hit, they weren't able to hold it. So, um but yeah, I'm Emma George. I'm the folk art and heritage coordinator for the Bear River Heritage Area or a program under Bragg. Um and we're working with the original founder of the festival to start it up again in 2026.

»So, this will be the first time in a while then

»in Yeah. In six or seven years. Yeah. So how many participants do you have?

»Um so we have 20 people who compete in the ukulele contest. Um and then we have performances throughout the day. So around 50 performers as well. Um

»attendees.

»Attendees in the past at its height it was around 2,000. Um but when they started at the first year it was around 800 to a,000. So that's what we're shooting for this year. Where?

»Uh, it will be at Willow Park

»at this.

»So, it's an outdoor act.

»Yeah. Yeah, it's an outdoor one.

»And why Cash Valley of all the places that one could go for a ukulele festival? Uh, is is this intended to be a rotating thing around the state or is the intent to keep it here in the long run?

»Yeah, the intent is to keep it here. So, in the past it was an annual festival. Um, and I guess the reason it was here is because there was a lot of passion from the local musical organizations. And then also we do have a surprising large like surprisingly large Polynesian community here. So

»ukuleles are cool. I love ukuleles.

»Thank you.

»Uh, did we floated a few numbers out here? Is there anybody who wants to

»I'd give him $6,000.

»I had funded 2,000 to help with the

»two or three is more the range I'm thinking. Yeah.

»Yeah. And we again kind of Dave's point of

»we don't growing it.

»Let them grow and and then we can see

»the future.

»Yeah. Yeah.

»Dave, do you have anything you would like to add?

»No.

»Okay. So, what

»why don't we do three then? Do we have uh do we have four behind one number?

»What is the number? We're

»we were we were at two.

»Whatever number it might be.

»20,000 two.

»Oh man.

»I'm I'm

»Kathy wants more.

»I want more. New non music lovers down here at the other end need to get in on the

»I love music.

»Let's

»I mean love music.

»If this is his first year in his restart,

»could we settle at three? I'll do three.

»I'm happy with three. It you know what we might if they may not even choose if I there's something to be said for the approach of let's see some growth and then invest in something that that's on its way up. There's also an approach of saying well maybe we can put a little something in to see if we can get something started that might be able to become self- sustaining. Uh uh um I I I will say that this is something for everybody.

»Yeah, we got the Shakespeare youth and we have ukulele and we've got some cowboy poetry.

»There is something for everybody. There's an event and something a tie for anybody and everybody in this valley

»which I think they can get the numbers.

»I think that's huge.

»I mean a thousand or even 2,000 people is a lot of people for an event like that.

»Yeah.

»So 3,000. We got four people.

»I'm okay with three. I'm okay with going down to two.

»3,000.

»Yeah. 3,000.

»Now three.

»Okay. Next one. We have Cash Trails Alliance. $30,000 and their operational costs. We kind of had some discussion about this already.

»I I love trails so much. And

»we should love music so much.

»This is all operation.

»I'm about to vote to recommend no funding for this proposal. I just

»I have zero. Um

»I I don't want to be in the space of making policy decisions about which who and which organizations are building or responsible for that thing. We've provided it through the county. I I don't want to be in this space with reps.

»Your thoughts? Yeah.

»Okay. Anybody have any other zero for 18 30 uh gardener market table market farm to table banquet support?

»I said no.

»You said none.

»I did too.

»Same for me.

»Anybody want to counter that? I don't know if I understand it all.

»It sounds like it's just like a fundraising event or a uh support banquet. So, it's going to be

»Yeah. Just a

»Usually those kind of organizations do their own banquetss.

»If it's a fundraising, maybe they raise their own funds.

»Exactly. That's their own or something.

»Yeah. Like I'm going to

»I I don't think it's going to bring people from outside the valley. I I food is a cultural event. I'm I'm not as clear to me. I just don't get

»So, we're That one's a zero

»zero. They'll probably do the types of things where they have giveaways, auctions. It's It's just a fundraising event that I don't think our perview will do.

»Okay. 30 uh gardeners. Oh, excuse me. Not 30. We said 30. 24. Cash Valley Civic Ballet. The training, scholarships, and outreach expenses. It has a score of 18. I have $10,000 at all.

»You didn't put it at all?

»No,

»I have $10,000.

»When I you when you look at the number of people that are participating and you divide it uh you divide the uh request among it, it works out to $52 a person that's participating.

»yeah, I I'm I I struggle with um and there basically as I understand it, these are scholarships for students, most of whom are coming out of the county to participate here. um from a recreation standpoint, my preference is that when we're providing recreation, arts and culture kinds of experiences that they be targeted at people who are in valley rather than out of the valley. For me, this would have to come from a perspective of you could make the argument that the investment is bringing people into the valley uh for their classes who are also doing, you know, shopping and and and eating while they're here. It's not a large impact on that front. I I hope they're able to find way to help students who might not otherwise be able to afford it to get in. Uh but I'm not sure Wraps is the right place from my perspective for it. Well put.

»Any other perspectives to share on this? Okay, we'll keep that at a zero.

»Cash number 33 cash valet Symphonic Society. I have a question of who are they? The idea as I understand it is the an umbrella organization for the the band uh the instrumental theme things and um at the risk of making uh Kathy believe that I hate music even more um I I like there's a clear rationale uh in the for the sound system one for the theater group even though I there's a part of me that that wants to push funding to the theaters than the administrative costs that could come with a an umbrella group as I saw that greater clarity for me that the it was we weren't funding administrative costs in large amounts for this group. We were funding the sound system

»director

»I yeah funding administrative costs for a director to oversee if they were providing sound system or a trailer or something that served all of the bands I would would be a little more inclined to get on board. Um, I'm not sure I see the direct benefit from the proposal as written.

»I looked at it from a community support. They only had $6,000 in ticket sales. That's an indication to me that there's not a lot of community support for this group.

»Seeing the value in that.

»Dave, Joe, anything else? K. I was just really worried really worried about their request was, you know, was half of what they were.

»Yeah. I just didn't I don't know if I did

»and I that that started telling me that, you know, that they're not they're not generating a lot or something or there's few people or I'm not sure, you know. Well, I am sure I reading their thing, I thought they were they were not real clear on a lot of that and so I I didn't have them as any funding. So

»I think there could be a stronger application from this group in the future.

»Yeah.

»But I I did not see the strength the rationale and of in this in this cycle.

»Are you recommending our funding too then?

»Okay. 54 Logan Cash airport selfs serve fuel farm project.

»We also go back. We funded them $15,000 last year.

»Oh, the symphonic society. I think we need to I think we need to support them to some degree and I think I said 15,000.

»Oh, let me see.

»We did. They requested 27. We granted them 15

»and it sure and it jumped to a request of 16.

»Yeah,

»they did jump their request.

»Yeah, it's huge. And I

»huge request. We had 15. go another year at 15 and we'll go from there.

»15,000.

»So,

»sorry Elma 15,000

»number 33.

»Yep.

»Okay. Now, we're at the fuel farm.

»I have them in zero.

»I don't know why this

»I don't have back, but

»there's some organizational things that's happening right now. I think that we need to get on top of with the airport authority and everything. We need to get some things taken care of there first before we start sending some money more money.

»And they don't they don't give us any accounting.

»No, we have no idea what's really going on with that. Okay.

»That's that is an issue.

»You represent them. Anyone? No.

»Okay. That's a count. It's a county.

»I mean, I see it being something they need they should do, but I don't know what needs to come through. It scares me. I don't know why it comes through us.

»Talk about leakage and everything like that. I worry about that. Well, I not going to give them any money until I know what they're doing themselves.

»Well, there's there's there's some issues uh with things like that and who, you know, who they have actually contracted with to to do all that and, you know, and and there's just some structure and some things happening right now. I think we need to just, you know, just let them take care, let go get their house in order and then come back.

»Okay. Well, I talked to a pilot yesterday about that one. Just saying, "Hey, would that be something that's necessary, something you guys need?" He said, "Oh, I love it. I love when there's other airports. He flies himself." And um he says, "But because the gas is cheaper when you can self-s serve, you know, because you don't have to pay for someone to come to your plane." And anyway, I just thought again, this is this is a business thing. Like whoever is providing the gas out there right now, um can't they just say, "Hey, you know, you can come after hours and fill up yourself." Um provide that as a business. Like again, I don't know why it needs to come from this committee. Yeah. Wraps.

»I mean, it might be enticing for some pilots and people who travel here. Um but um again, this is a business expense. This is whoever is doing their fuel right now, they should turn to to say, can you provide a self pump service and have them just do it?

»Especially if you're going to give them such a long duration contract kind of thing.

»Yeah.

»That should be it. Just it probably just needs not come back to us.

»Yeah. As much as I I actually support it, I just don't think it needs to come through. This

»75 Soul Soul Music Foundation.

»Is this a new one?

»Yeah,

»this is a new one.

»Yeah,

»the Redeemer tour.

»They're out of the area.

»And I I put zero on them and just say, "Okay, go ahead. Get it going if you if it's something that's reoccurring." But like you say, it's also it is not a whole lot of a cash valley based.

»Yeah.

»It's just

»it it seems like it's one of those if we don't fund it's coming anyway type thing.

»Yeah. And then if then let it strengthen and let it

»how is it accepted by the community. Yeah, this

»when when we talked about another application over the last couple of years, we speculated as to would any music concert that decided that they wanted to hold an event in Cash Valley qualify for funding under wraps? And I I you know the So should u you know should Taylor Swift uh be coming to Cash Valley? Uh probably not. But but if she did put in for wraps funding,

»there's maybe that's the key to getting her to come. Uh but I I I'm not sure how to treat this differently than any other concert with any other concert promoter coming in and I'm a little hesitant to get into that.

»That's a good way of saying

»agree.

»Plus, she

»I just I worry that she's ruining a good football player. So that's

»But they're popular.

»Okay. Val Valor Soccer Club Incorporated. 85.

»So 75 was zero. Correct.

»75 was zero.

»Thank you. 85.

»85. This is a new

»So is this. It's a separate soccer league that's trying to come here.

»I put them at zero.

»Major minor or something. I don't know.

»I see. I I see the role

»I love soccer. I think it's great.

»I do too. I see our role as providing um recreation infrastructure rather than funding the entities that support it. Like I don't want to support every soccer club in the valley,

»but I do want to make sure there's lots of good soccer fields in the valley so the clubs can form, exist, and run and serve you.

»And 40% they want they want to fund 40% of their

»off of wraps.

»Yeah. I'm sitting there going flat out there's no come here and if you're if you if you've as I read that thing if you are as good as you say you are you should be self- sustaining and get it going and and and have the the base that you should without tax money

»then you get to strength and start going to next levels

»then it may be a different question

»we could have that conversation but I'll tell you right now Nibbli's youth soccer program North Logan's youth soccer program, Logan's Youth Soccer Program, Smithfield. Each one of those individually are serving more kids at no cost to RAPs.

»Um, and they don't they don't have to pay their coaches. They run off volunteers, all those kinds of things. We

»we don't need to get into this space.

»Uh, okay. Zero Alma for 85 86 Wellsville City Trails. I think we said zero or we going to visit that one.

»I

»Yep. I said zero. I so fundamental. Well, I I almost just really lost my filter. I I don't think we should fund this. We We I I love funding trails. I love funding music, too. Uh but I also I love funding trails that I know where they start, where they go on what what the connectivity of the network is.

»Again, listen to this. Um and take notes for anyone who wants to do applications. Number 44, Little Bloomsbury Foundation. I just suggested zero. I don't even know what they were doing.

»I put zero.

»Do we?

»Anybody else have any other ideas?

»Yeah, that's what I had zero. Good.

»Okay. Okay. Um, look at that, guys. We have We're going to take a second while Elma adds things up.

»There's lunch over here.

»Lunch over there. There's bathrooms. Is that okay, Elma? Going to take Are you okay to work while we

»Yeah.

»Step away for a second?

»Yep. We can do that.

»Okay. Take a

»to work through your lunch. You want to feed your lunch for you?

»Yeah. Yeah. We'll grab the one that says Elma on top.

»It's like a 4 hour. I'll start the recording. Everybody got green lights.

»Yep.

»Okay.

»This is yours. So what what we want to do is I will go through um and just make sure that we have I have recorded the correct uh number that you recommend and if there is a yellow one um we will um you can discuss that. So if it's okay I'll just go in my order so I don't miss any. Um so number six, the Bear River Heritage Area, your recommended $3,000 What is that order? What order is this? So, this order is not any order that you've got. Sorry.

»Help.

»I was going See, there's a note up here in red. It says, "Put them in order of of their scores." And I was going to do that. I apologize. I didn't get to it. I got home from Kentucky on Wednesday night and I had to get ready for this meeting and I and this is one thing that I didn't get done. I apologize.

»So, we'll find this.

»We'll have to find all of them then.

»We're going to be here a while.

»Is there 3,000? Yes.

»Okay.

»Take two.

»That was the ukulele.

»That's the ukulele.

»Yeah.

»So, 3,000. That's okay. So, number 10 is the cash community connections.

»Yes.

»58 5,850.

»Yep.

»11. Number 11, Cash County is 10,000

»electrical.

»Yep.

»Okay.

»Cash County number 13 is 14,000.

»Correct. That's the cheese and dairy vegetable.

»Okay. Yeah. Glad somebody's finding them fast.

»Number 14, the fair rodeo at 75,000. Yes.

»Um, Cash Valley Center for the Yards is number 20. It's 12,000.

»Yes.

»Number 23, Cash Valley Chamber of Commerce, 85,000.

»That's the summer citizens. Yes.

»Yes. That's pretty

»cash. Uh, let's see. Number 28, CR Cash Valley Cruising Association at 40,000.

»Yes,

»that one there. Hang on.

»Yep.

»Is that what you

»Yeah, we have 40.

»Yep. 40,000.

»We push that to 45. They are requesting 48, but I was hoping that was one I had a question mark to actually push to 45.

»I support that. We we do have um the 6,000 cruise was 45.

»I'll show you.

»No, 28 was Sorry, 45 is the amount. 28 was the

»So, before we make any changes, um you have $6,336748. Sorry.

»Feel okay about that? Anyone?

»Yeah, I'm okay.

»Oh, good. So cruising to 45.

»Okay.

»Number 30, Cash Valley Gardener Market. Zero.

»Yeah. Zero.

»Yeah.

»Okay. Number 31, Cash Valley Gardener Markets. The other one for 4,000.

»Yes.

»Number 35, Cornish Town, 12,000.

»Yes.

»Ispen events. This is the Grand Fondo. Um,

»yes.

»10,000.

»Yep.

»Hyram City number 40 is zero.

»Yes.

»Hyram City 41 200,000.

»Yes. Lewon number 43 60,000.

»Yeah.

»Yes.

»Logan City Park 450,000.

»Yes.

»Logan Downtown Alliance. This is number 48. 15,000.

»The eight and the seven. Yes.

»Yep.

»Okay. The other Logan Downtown Alliance is 7,500.

»Yep.

»Correct.

»That was the events, right?

»Downtown Alliance was the

»the first was the

»That was the marathon.

»48 was the marathon.

»The seven and eight was the um center street group, I think.

»Yeah. The other one is the something else.

»So the I think this is the free activities number 49.

»Yes.

»7,500.

»Yes.

»Okay. Then the next ones are the So Logan events and activities 8,000. I believe that was the pumpkin. This number 50.

»This one was the arts I believe number 51 at zero.

»Yeah. Mhm.

»And then this was the

»Christmas one at 7,000.

»Okay.

»Correct.

»Yep.

»Logan Cash Airport zero.

»Correct.

»Um Menden City 55 is the uh number. It's 80,000.

»Yeah. The other one is zero.

»Yeah,

»the other one is zero. Okay. Milville City had two 57 and 58 100,000 on 57

»and then 58 we marked it with the yellow to revisit it.

»What number is that one? 38.

»Number 58.

»58.

»I' I'd look back at 58 doing something.

»That was the basketball memory. We were just going to We left that one to come back to it. I'm just trying into one project. Finished the one project.

»Yeah, the playground equipment on the south park we put funds into and this was the basketball court at another park.

»This is listed the ask is 34,

»correct? Um, I'd give them 30 and there's already a lot of match there. Is that too much?

»Um, we put 100,000 into the other one.

»We We've got resources. Why not deploy it?

»That for potential. We thought we'd be overspending

»and it's the kind of project where they'll come in, they'll put it in in a year, it'll be done and

»yeah, it's not a continuous phase.

»We're not going to get phase six uh of of uh of that project.

»30,000 on that

»on number 58.

»Yeah,

»30,000.

»Okay. Just give me one second and make sure we take that off and I'll check that one. Newton number 61 32,500.

»Okay. Nibi Morgan Farm 20,000. That one's marked in yellow. You wanted to have more discussion on that.

»Oh, that was with the ecoin.

»Correct.

»Trailer number 64. Nibbly Morgan Farm.

»Yes,

»we funded it at 20.

»Correct.

»Last page.

»Second page.

»Our ask is 24,999.

»I say we just give it to them.

»Yeah. Let's finish that off.

»Yeah, let's finish it.

»24,999.

»Yeah.

»They were determined to stay under 25,000, weren't they?

»They wanted it to look like it was on sale. Well, at 25,000 they have to um give us other documentation. That's why they stay dollar under.

»Got it.

»Number 65, Norah Eckles Harrison Museum at Utah State University. You funded it at 5,000. That's the

»Yeah.

»Okay. Nordic United 6,000. Yeah.

»Number 68, Paradise Town, $16,515.

»Uhhuh.

»Providence City, $154,800. This is number 69. Yes.

»154800. Is that what you said?

»Yes.

»Yeah. Is

»that right?

»Yep.

»Okay. Number 70, Richmond City. at 105,000. Number 70.

»Yes.

»Okay. Number 71, River Heights City at 60,000. Application 71. Yeah, I've got it at 70.

»Okay.

»Oh, no. Thanks. I'll get the note on that. Um,

»heights number 71 at 60,000. Yes.

»Okay. Okay.

»74 Smithfield 200,000. This is for the netting, I believe.

»200,000. Yes.

»Okay. Number 82 is uh Utah State University. This is the summer citizens

»10,000.

»Yes. With that note, of course, next year that we'd like to see that

»combined with

»combined.

»Yes. USU and chamber collaborate. Okay. Number 85, Valor Soccer Club. Zero.

»Yeah.

»Wellsville City number 86.

»Yeah.

»And Wellsville City 87. Number 87. 100,000. Yeah.

»Correct.

»Yeah.

»Okay.

»Right. Number three, American Festival Chorus and Orchestra up 40,000.

»Yes.

»Number seven, Bridger Folk Music Society at 1,600.

»That's what I've got.

»Number seven.

»That's 100% funded.

»Oh, yeah. Yes. Don't know what they do. Number eight, cash children's choir at 12,000.

»Yes.

»Number nine, cash community bands at 6,000. I thought that I thought that was only going to be 200. I think you voted for it.

»Maybe if they come and give us a concert. There you go.

»I'll play the garden.

»You want You want entertainment at the next board meeting?

»I want I want 6,000 if they come to Lewon.

»No. No.

»No. It's already been said. Trying to hire you. Bring your truck and come put us out there. Maybe we'll do it. Number 17, the Cash Pioneer Museum 9,000. You had a question on that, but that's all they asked for.

»That was full funding at 9,000. Yeah.

»Yeah.

»Okay. I'm going to remove the Maybe I marked the wrong one. Okay. Cash Valley number 21, Cash Valley Center for the Arts. 100,000. That was fully funded.

»Yeah.

»Number 22, Cash Valley Center for the Arts, 150. That's fully funded.

»Yes.

»Cash Valley Civic Ballet number 240.

»Correct.

»There was two for the ballet

»and this one was zero.

»Yep.

»Number 25 is the Cash Valley Civic Ballet at 25,000.

»Okay.

»Number 26, Cash Valley Community Theater Alliance. fully funded at 60,613.

»Number 27, Cash Valley Cowboy Rendevous at 18,000.

»Yep.

»Okay. Number 32, Cash Valley Men's Chorus at $1,000, fully funded. Number 33, Cash Valley Symphonic Society at 15,000.

»Yes.

»Number 34 is Cash Youth Orchestras at 7,500.

»7,500.

»Okay. Four seasons. Number 36 at 75,000

»for three performances. I remember. Yes.

»Okay. Number 37. This is the Friends of the North Logan City Library at 100,000.

»Yes.

»Number 39, Hyram City.

»Yes.

»3,500.

»Yes.

»Right. Number 42, uh, Jump the Moon at 20,000.

»Yes.

»Um, number 44, Little Bloomsbury Foundation Zero.

»Number 46, Logan Community Foundation of 45,000.

»What number?

»Number 46.

»46. Does that put them under the 50,000? They would

»45,000 is the

»There's There's two

»There's two of them.

»46 is 45,000.

»Number 46 is 45,000. Is that correct?

»Yes.

»Number 47 is Logan Community Foundation as well at 50,000

»50,000.

»Yes. Okay. Number 53 is the Logan Youth Shakespeare at 5,000. That's fully funded.

»Yes. Yes.

»Okay. Number 59, Mountain West String Academy is 4,000. Number 59.

»I didn't make any notes, which usually means uh full funding, but I is 4,000.

»Okay.

»4,000. Fully funded would have been

»55,000. Okay.

»Number 60 is the music theater west at 75,000

»productions. Yep.

»Yep.

»Correct. City is I believe this is fully funded 2500.

»Oh yeah.

»Children theater.

»The children's theater.

»Yep.

»Wait, what's the non-eligible over here on the right?

»Oh, that's from last year. Sorry, that was that was another one on the other side.

»Smithfield City.

»Yeah. 72 is Smithfield City

»Children's

»Children's Play. Yes.

»Yeah, you're good.

»Smithfield City. 73. 40,000. This is I believe the museum

»is for you. Museum, right?

»Yeah, we had a question on that. Or it's yellow.

»40,000.

»Wanted a period.

»Yeah, we wanted a period. No more.

»That doesn't quite cover the total cost

»what they're needing, but that's a great start. That'll

»Okay,

»they can point you up.

»So, we're good at the 40,000.

»Are you lobbying for 15 days?

»No, he's not.

»Not really. I think we might want a taller net at the golf course, though.

»Only if you golf, huh? Only Only if they invite me to golf.

»Next one. 75 Soul Film Music Zero.

»Correct.

»Zero.

»76 is Summerfest Arts Fair 23,000. That was fully funded.

»Yes.

»Number 77 is the Chamber Music Society 4,000

»right there.

»We good?

»Yeah.

»Um number 79 is the Unicorn Theater at 15,000. That's fully funded.

»Yes. Okay. 80 is Utah Festival Opera and Music Theater at 400,000.

»Yes.

»Utah Symphony or excuse me, sorry, 81 is Utah State University 20,000.

»Is that the lyric?

»Yeah, that was the lyric.

»20,000. Yes.

»Okay. Now it's the Utah Symphony and Utah Opera number third or number 83. 10,000.

»Yep. That's

»that what everybody has.

»Wellsville concert.

»Yes.

»Oh yeah.

»84 is Valley Dance Ensemble 5,000.

»What everybody has.

»Yeah.

»88 is Wells Foundation. 17,675 is fully funded.

»Okay.

»Oh, we're so

»we're almost done. So number one is uh Allan and Alice Stokes um nature center at 30,000. I believe that's fully funded

»or maybe not. I can't remember.

»So I think we're not 30,000

»35 is what they were asking.

»30 30,000 is what you're recommending.

»30

»Amalga number two is 12,500.

»Correct.

»American West Heritage Center. There's two of them. number four and number five. Number four is 125,000.

»Yes.

»And number five is 50,000 for the Number 12 is Cash County.

»Yeah.

»Fully funded.

»That's the fans, isn't it?

»I I don't have that.

»What number was it?

»Number 12.

»It has to be the fans cuz the other fairground was the water one. That's the ventilation system.

»So the next one is 15. It's Cash County. I believe this is your water system.

»The water system.

»Yeah.

»Okay. Cash County Fairgrounds. 100,000.

»That What is that?

»That was for the commissioning stuff, right?

»I don't remember.

»What was 12 then?

»16. So we're looking for 12 or 16. Well, what is 12?

»What is 12?

»12 is

»Let's see.

»Uh Cash County Trail and Active Transportation Program funding.

»Oh, that's the two FT.

»That's the two FTEEs for the 100,000 on the ventilation system.

»Yeah.

»Okay.

»Do we need more on the ventilation system to get that project done?

»You know, I was just going to say that because I mean, if we have extra funds like we're showing, we might as well just get that one funded and done. And yeah, get it done.

»So 118,000 and $1.

»No, 118,000

»even.

»Dave can dollar the dollar

»and I'll get the dollar from Catherine.

»Finance will like it to be even. So 118,000 even. Okay. Cast Trails Alliance. This is number 18 at zero. Correct.

»Yeah.

»The other Cash Trails Alliance at 50,000.

»That's our contingent one, right?

»50,000 getting it matching funds.

»Yeah.

»Nibbly City. Yes. The trailer.

»The trailer at 7,000. That's right.

»North Logan City

»Park

»85,000 fully funded.

»Yes.

»And Trenton number 78 12 or 12 25,000.

»25,000. Yes.

»Okay. Phase four. Yeah,

»we have one more. It's the zoo. We had a a yellow on it. 320,000.

»I think that's fine

»for now. You bet.

»If more information comes available between now and the time the council looks at this, you guys can can make any adjustments.

»This is in blue is the remaining amount $578,749. about 10%.

»Good. It's better than last year.

»Last year we were in 10% deficit by the time we got done, wasn't it?

»Yeah,

»just about. We had to go back and we had to do an adjustment.

»That was unpleasant.

»Yeah, adjustment.

»We did better this year.

»On Trenton's application, are they just increasing the number of seats

»on the toilets? phase one, page two,

»phase two, phase three.

»So, I know that you've spent a long time in this meeting. I'm just wondering if you have any feedback on the process. We talked about a letter. Um, we could perhaps do that from the board. Um, I will send out emails to everybody and say, please review the the recording. I I think just a little in those emails you you respond back to all of them right on what their award is later after

»I will I I after this process um so it goes to the recommendation goes to the council they approve it either the 12th or the 26th once it's approved then I do award letters

»yeah in that that is the letter I think to all of them do you do you notify the ones that didn't get don't get awarded

»yes I do an award letter to

»instead of too specific on, you know, that your application was not very good. You could just be there all day maybe going through some. I would dare say just

»make sure in future,

»you know, just in future uh applications that they are thorough and that all up to-date information, you know, is present and and uh and detailed explanations. You know, I think that's that's basically just something encouraging them to step it up on some of the applications. Some of them are really good, but there's some that are pretty vague. Some of them they try to copy and paste their spreadsheet into those spaces and the numbers are all over and you can't follow or understand. Just tell them to attach the

»an attachment isn't that hard.

»Yeah. You know, things like just I think I hate to sit there and go, "Hey, we're going to send one letter to this one group saying you need to do this." I think it is really their responsibility,

»right? then they up to date

»and in our conversations with people I tell people send a quality application

»and you do that anyway I think in the applications but I think just reiterating saying that

»the rats committee would it's it's more helpful if we have

»the detail that's that's necessary and it was easy to follow

»dare you say or you may get a lower score

»probably not that's what I'm thinking but that's what happens

»you're kind of threatening there

»no I was just saying but that's what really happens you know get an application that makes no sense or is scrambled like Bruce brought out and and it does tend to make you not want to give them,

»you know, as I when I start when I'm going through the applications and everything and then also the question I often write it over on some notes.

»Yeah.

»And if it takes me a long time to have to go back and forth to try to find the answer.

»Yeah.

»You know, you go, you know, it leads to more questions about that application rather than, hey, it's concise. It's flowing. It's this this makes a lot of sense and you know and are really affected you know.

»Yeah.

»So

»so as far as the process um I know a lot of you reviewed online this year. Um

»I even made it through

»in spite of some technical issues with some but I did share the applications. Hopefully that was was useful. Um if anything comes to mind either say it now or or send me an email.

»Yeah. Being able to filter the applications would be really

»and that's something that they're working on. That's out of my hands. Um, and they will get that. I will make sure they get that fixed.

»I have to go. I'm sorry.

»Who did the online

»It wouldn't work for me.

»Yeah,

»he even came in and

»what you did. Look at those binders. So, if you want to leave your books, I know the council members usually take them, but if you want to leave your books, I will take them. So,

»y

»Well, I appreciate everyone's efforts. Thank you very much. I'm sorry I have to run. If you have more you want to discuss, I hand

»Dave, you're the rain that the gavl is.

»I can hit a gavl faster than anybody.

»Thank you everyone. Thank you so much.

»So, we're are we adjourned then? Yep. Move to adjurnn.

»Second motion.