Cache County Council Regular Meeting –04-14-2026

K. Thank you for joining us tonight. We will officially open our Cache County Council meeting. I'm supposed to do this. I hate it. We're done. We're open. The opening tonight is me, and I would like to begin the meeting with a prayer if you'll all join me. Our dear father, which art in heaven, we are so grateful for the many blessings that we receive, here in this Cache Valley and for the beautiful place that we live and the good people that we live amongst. And father, at this time, as the world is in so much turmoil, we would ask their blessings to rain down upon all of us and our leaders and leaders of nations that the wisdom will be used and that we might all be able to be safe and understand the things that that need to happen in our world. Father, we are so grateful for the leaders of our of our county and for the opportunity that we have to work together and to make decisions that will hopefully make things better for everyone. Please help us to be aware of those that are less fortunate among us and those in our community that need our help. And please guide us tonight as we make decisions and have discussions that we will be be able to use good judgment and wisdom in all that we do. And we ask these things humbly in the name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Okay. Will you all please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Alright. We've got a lot a lot going on tonight. So let's let's get to it. First of all, I need someone to review and approve the agenda.

So moved. Second.

It's been moved and seconded that we approve the agenda. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. What about the minutes?

I didn't see anything concerning the tonight, so I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from

Thank you. It's been been seconded that we approve the minutes from March 24, county council meeting minutes. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hey. Report of the county executive.

I have distributed a couple of things to you. This is a chart. Janine prepared this. I asked her to to organize the government visually with the way it is with the three branches, the legislative, the executive, and the judicial. We don't have a judicial branch, but actually, the county attorney acts as our judicial branch because he advises us on our legal rights and our legal responsibility. So that's why that's the third branch. We've got a dotted line between the district attorney and the sheriff because of their unique relationship. But I I think that's helpful for people to understand how our government fit together. We have a bunch of county entities at the bottom here, which in some cases are under the executive, sometimes they're under the legislative, and sometimes they're also associated with the county executive. So that's that's something if any of you have a dispute or anything. But if someone asks us what our organization looks like, that's what we'll be giving them. As you know, we're working on reorganizing the airport governance. We've we've had a withdrawal agreement from Logan City. You have not yet approved that withdrawal agreement. We've worked on some amendments to it because since it was signed by the city, there's some things we're changing around on it. No problems with that are involved with that, but we're continuing to work on it. We received a report in 2004, a couple of years ago, making 30 recommendations for the airport. I'm working through those recommendations one by one. The first recommendation was to consolidate ownership. That's what we're doing. Recommendation two, three, and four, I have copied and put in this handout to you. I'd appreciate it if you'd read that. That'll give you background over what we'll be bringing to you over the next two or three meeting as we work with the airport authority board, Logan City, and the airport personnel to reorganize that. I think we're generally headed in the direction of having a sponsor, which would be us, an airport authority board, and then management under the airport authority board. Again, there's some legal work that needs to be done to see how all of that's gonna fit together. We wanna talk with our partner, Logan, about that so they're comfortable with what we're doing there.

George, as you do this, can I just say that any any of that that's that's done, the agreements and the boards and the bylaws, all have to be approved by the the council? And so we have council we have a a council member that's actually working on that with our staff. Would you please include them? And because Yes. We are. And and Okay. Because I Keith is gonna be

deeply involved in that. I think we've given these material to to Andrew, and we will be working with him, and he will be a participant in those meetings. I hate for something to come to that we're not comfortable with, where if we'd have been a part of the crafting of it, then it's it's more of a collaboration. Yeah. No question about that. Thank you. So third thing, we've been very active in working on the fire board, and we've had a couple of meetings with cities. We're getting some legal advice about how the organization needs to be set up, and we're we're kind of going the next step of explaining to each of the cities how they would be affected by this. What I've handed out to you is the kind of materials we're giving to the cities. This particular chart takes each city by city and shows what they're currently funding fire and EMS at, what portion of that would that would be of their own taxable value, what ours would if we put a levy on them at eight or seven or six. What would be the effects on the city? How much money would they get? And so we're having those discussions with with the various units. I pulled one particular unit, which is Mendon. I went out and spent time last week with Mendon and went through their their particular situation. This chart, the first column is Mendon's Mendon, I explained to them that their service area was much larger than just Mendon City, that they would also be unincorporated county that's within their fire district. They already have lines that we're using for emergency purposes and dispatching vehicles that describe their service area. Let's see. I'm not sure I brought it in, but the area that Mendon serves is five or six times the physical area of Mendon City. And so I I told them that the unincorporated taxable area in their district would also be funding that would go to the Mendon Fire and EMF program. This second column here is that. So you can see that there's actually more taxable area in their fire district, fire district that's outside of the city than inside the city. So Mendon would receive, if the mill levy were at 800 mils or point $0.08 mils or however you figure that, they would be getting a 130,000 from their own citizens, but another 171,000 for citizens in the unincorporated area. What this shows is if we look at these rural fire departments, their their concern is is that the county, handling this is going to expose them to not having sufficient resources. The county will actually have a million $200,000 to distribute among the rural fire station, take care of the of the unincorporated area. So Mendon here would have $302,000. Now that's gotta cover their operation. It's also gotta cover EMS, and it's also gotta cover their capital needs. They're gonna have to replace fire trucks and build stations and things like that. So that's the kind of thing we're doing with the fire district. Any questions as to what we are doing with with talking to cities? I think I've got a meeting set up this next week to go up to Richmond and talk to all the cities in the northern end of the valley about the fire district.

I just I have one question, George. And we can talk about this later because I've seen this a lot. But this 91,000 that is set for their that's what their budget, does that include, like, the firemen that we send out there, that we pay for, or the the resources that we already give to Mendon? Like So they're actually spending more than 91?

Really Or does that even matter? Not not complete. What it covers is the amount that's in their general fund. From their tax. From their tax. They they also do something interesting, Sandy. They charge on their water bill a $5 per water bill bill for, EMS. So it's really just those two. K. The the county has been supporting them significantly. They have a pumper truck that cost us something like $300,000 that's in Mende. So that personnel training, there's a whole bunch of support we're giving him. So if we look at transferring, all of that's gotta be looked at and and so on. There's a lot more. It's going to be a while to get this to fit together and understand, but I think the rural fire departments recognize the benefits they've received from the county. And we need to do what's necessary to make sure those rural fire departments continue to function.

I have a question for me. So we show Mendon. Is the part that you're showing at the area of unincorporated, what Mendon City has said would be their annexation map, or is that broader than that annexation map? Broader. There that's quite a bit larger than their That would be the same thing for such as Wellsville or Hyram or any of those others just like what you've done on Mendon. Right. I think you'll find as you get into the more rural part of the county that more and more true Paradise

has less citizens in its city than it had in the unincorporated area around them. End. Cove, all that area is unincorporated. So there there's quite a bit of area. So as you get out in those rural areas, that's where most of the money we collect in the unincorporated citizens is gonna go back into the community. K. That helps answer some of those. The last part of my report is just an update as to what's happening with the Clarkston Road matter, and I'd just like to turn this over to our county attorney to kinda make a report on what's happening there. Dane? So we're going we're going forward with the,

litigation out there. The Clarkson Group filed for a temporary restraining order just today that the county will join just trying to prevent any obstructions to the roadway. These roadways out there, all five is what they're seeking. There is some indication that the landowner is going to put gates up. And so that's that's what our purpose of joining that is to prevent any obstruction of those while the litigation is pending.

K. Is that does anyone have any other questions for the executive for the Think Cities first report? Thank you. K. Thank you. K. The the first thing on our agenda for item of special interest is our Cache County America two fifty committee. And it says it was gonna be Barbara Tidwell, but we have a representation from the committee. It is Corina Brown and Pam Budge, and we're so happy that you're here. So we'll just turn some time over to you guys.

Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak to you this evening. Barbara gives her best. She's not able to be here today, so Pam and I are happy to be here with you. As you know, it's the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America this year. It's the semi quincentennial. And as we've been planning in our committee and meeting for the last several months, I've I've thought about having gratitude for the past, appreciation for the present, and hope for the future. And I found a inspiring quote from president Abraham Lincoln, and he said, the best way to predict the future is to create it. And I think it's a great time to be civically engaged and to contribute as citizens, in our country. And so we appreciate this opportunity to serve on this committee and help be a a special part of the celebration. I wanna give a shout out and thank you to Cache County for your donation to contribute towards the celebrations as well as the state of Utah and Utah State University. I have our website up here, the county website, and updated it with a list of events. So if you go on the county page or if you just Google Cache County America 250, it'll bring up this page. And so it has events that will be going on the rest of the year up, especially the next few months. One of the key events that's coming up was actually Andrew's idea to have a gala. So it's gonna be a dance on June 13, and it will be at the Cache County Event Center. And so there'll be music. It's called dancing through the decades. So it'll be a free event. So another couple of events that I wanted to highlight

was

the July first American Festival Chorus will be having a free concert at the Logan Logan Tabernacle at 07:30. There will be a community potluck on July 5 in Mac at Mac Park. And so there'll be a nationwide community potluck. So we will be a part of that. Our committee is in the process of designing with an with a designer banners that will be in Logan downtown for five weeks, patriotic banners. So we're looking forward to that. And we also are working with the city of Logan to develop a community art project. So it's still in process, but I will let you know when that process is complete. But it'll be really exciting. So I'll turn the time over to Pam.

Parades for the for the cities and towns this coming season. And we decided to, throw out declarations of independence rolled up. And since that's what we're celebrating, two hundred fiftieth anniversary of, we've we've been in the USU parade last year and people just absolutely love the decorations. It's so fun. Like the kids kind of, they all ask for one and, lots of fun. So we'll be doing that. We'll be in Smithfield in Richmond next month. And then also, we have social media pages. So we're on Facebook, Instagram, and x. And if you just search America to 50, Cache County, you'll be able to find us. But I kinda wanted to talk about some of the the types of posts that we do. This is on our Facebook page, just the the different posts. We have, posts on this day on on this day in history. So we we have we want to focus on just the time period, the American Revolution time period. So a recent one was Patrick Henry's speech, and we have recommended resources. My favorite is foundersarchives.gov. So if you ever see a a a quote floating around and you wonder, did he really say that? You can go and type in a few words. And it's a huge database, with all of their their letters and documents and words. Also, we wanted to really highlight the signers of the declaration, and so we decided to do that on their birthdays. And so we have just short biographies that we get from this book that was written in 1860, and just to kind of learn about them. Because most of them, I think, I did not know until I started this process. And I've been so impressed and so inspired by what what they did and who they were. The other is is we wanted to highlight other people in the American Revolution. George Washington, for example, did not sign the declaration, but he's a huge part of the American Revolution. So that's kind of where we highlighted him. We have women and, black Americans and and a few native Americans who also helped. The other type of post we have is the walk two fifty. And that's that's something that the state America two fifty has started. It's to get people out in America walking around seeing it, and with a goal of walking 250 miles, this year. And they have prizes for those who do. But we we wanted to highlight trails and walking paths that are unique to Cache County mostly. And so, give you ideas where to go for that. The last is we wanted to share some quotes from our founders. Their words, all of these will be sourced, so you'll see that. I wanted to share a quote by John Adams that he wrote to his wife Abigail that kind of summarizes why we're doing this. He said this, posterity, you will never know how much it costs the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pain to preserve it. And I feel like that's that's what I I really personally want to do. I want to be able to show him and and our other founders that we still care, that all that they went through was not in vain. And so that's that.

Thank you so much. I want to congratulate both of you, and and you're both great examples of civic engagement. So I look up to both of you. So thank you for I have a question. Yes.

I've heard of other committees too on the same thing. Are you incorporating other committees or you're just solely? What do you are you a Cache County Committee? Is that what you are called?

Yeah. We're the Cache County Committee, and we're we were appointed by the county council. There's eight of us, but there's, like, a county employee committee. There's different city committees. And, actually, the the potluck on July 5 is organized mainly by the Smithfield America two fifty committee, but we'll be working with them on that as well.

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. May I? Yes. What is the book you have? I didn't see it. You flashed it quickly. Yeah. It's the Biographical

Sketches of the Signers of the Declaration. It was written 1860 by BJ Lassing. I it's a book I've had on my shelf for a few years. Didn't know how to use it. And you've mentioned a lot of, resources that you're going to have. Are they mostly gonna be on Facebook?

Yes. I think mostly. That that that's where Or on the county website. And

the the votes and the things on their birthday, the highlight the little sketches life sketches on their birthdays, etcetera. That's a Facebook. Oh, it's actually yeah. Facebook, Instagram, and x. All of that. Okay. And it's so is it Cache County to America 250, or what is it? Just swap that. America 250, Cache County. K. Cool. Thanks. And the events list that I had up there has the Smithfield events and Logan City. I put some of the Logan City events too. Is any that I hear about, we'll put on that page.

we have quite a bit of funds. Okay. I just wanna make sure. Thank you so much. So we appreciate the county and the state and then USU as well. So we have enough

for now of what for what we were wanting to do, but I'll let you know if we need. Keep us in in touch there as to because a lot of these events, these are gonna be I don't think they'll be around with the next two fifty. So Okay. Let's let's really let's let's make it the what you're doing there, the celebration, make sure you're financed. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.

Any other questions?

Thank you. Thank you so much.

K. Next, we have Will Lusk, our illustrious emergency manager, to talk to us about some training. And we have public hearings too. So we'll I don't know. We're gonna be with you Thursday night. It's about six minutes. We have about six minutes.

Andrew told me five, so hold hold it to hold me to it. We're perfect. So that so that I don't have to take very much of your time, you should have a packet of papers on your desk with all the documents on. And if you if you have trouble sleeping at night, trust me, the the one that says, Cache County Council Emergency Operations Guide is really good for helping you sleep. Just consider that your tax dollars would work. But it is good to to to be with you this evening. Yep. Couple quick items of of note. It is that time of year again to make sure we dot the i's, cross the t's, and and stay on top of our game because we do not know when the disasters will strike. I did bring a small gift that was given to me twenty one years ago by the Logan City Council on the first night that I made a budget presentation at the council workshop there. I told them that, you'll see in the in the budget, we put in a requisition for for a crystal ball so that, we'll know when every strike, when it's gonna strike, and know how to be prepared for it when it does. They thought I was not serious and in in kindness, they they gave me this small object. And, I have found out over the last twenty one years, it's not a magic crystal ball. It's actually a snow globe. Sadly, I I knocked it off the shelf yesterday or not yesterday, satter Saturday, about midday, and the the storm rolled through. It is it is quite accurate, though, but I do have to be careful when and how we move it around. Don't wanna cause too many problems with it. But, in in in all seriousness, and I do apologize for the crystal ball, but, there should be a package that that you you you have, so hard copy and electronic copy copy with documents in it inviting you to training opportunities coming up. Every organization does have requirements both laid out by the state of Utah as well as our own, wants, wishes, and and desires. And it is that time of the year to, take a serious look at if we did have the big one, what should we ought we or or or should, can we do when the when the ground shakes, the, thunder roars, or it's time to to do, day to day just a little bit different. Coming up Thursday Thursday night from six to 8PM, you're you're welcome, and we would love to to have any and and all of you at the emergency operations center at the sheriff's office. We will be doing the annual county wide communication exercise in conjunction with faith based groups and civic groups here in the, Cache Valley Cache County area as well. But, we will also try to look at a 5.7 earthquake here on the East Cache Fault Line. And, yes, we do have fault lines here in Cache County. They they go up and down both both of our mountain ranges, both on the East and the West. And we even have the Dayton Fault that comes down from the Idaho border and ends about in the area of Yeah. Benson. Sorry. And if you remember 2023, that nice little beautiful spot in Downtown Benson, we had 14 minor earthquakes occurring back in 2023. Anything from as small as a as a point eight, all the way up to a, three point o within a matter of thirteen days. Now believe me, come Thursday night, we'll show you the US geological survey seismic site. You can you can see them. We had a three point o up Logan Canyon a month ago. Anybody feel it? Amazing amazingly, it is kind kind of strange of when we feel them and when we don't. But three point o, six miles deep in the ground, Lined Hollow was our our last Cache County Earthquake. On a on a day to day to day basis, we monitor not only for those, but for wildland fires and 19 other disaster types. And Sorry. Long story short, come come Thursday night to the County EOC. We will guide guide you through, if this was the big one in Cache County, what would we do, what should we do, and how should how should we do it to best accomplish taking care of the the people we work for. Similarly, coming up Saturday morning, April twenty fifth, across the street at the Logan City, council Chambers will be the, annual national incident management system training for senior and elected officials. Every response organization out there has yearly training that they have to go through, and even the federal government in its wisdom and our state government in their wisdom have outlined annual training for senior and elected officials. I know you're very busy. If if you can, love to have you there on that day nicely. You don't have to listen to me that morning. There will be representatives from both the state of Utah here as well as my counterpart on the other side of the the valley, Mark Millett, does a wonderful job teaching that that course and then taking you through that training. He's delivered it now three times. One in Box Elder County, one in Weber County, and one in Davis County. And it it it's our turn coming up in a couple weeks. If if you can make it, please please join with us. Love to to have you there. Love what George and Kurt have done with the organization chart, updating it. When you do come to the emergency operation center, whether you know it or not, you are part of the Cache County policy group. And many of the names on that organization chart will be around that policy group table with you trying to determine, what are we gonna do when we when we get down to, chief George's last ambulance. And, he says, hey. I've got more calls than I have ambulances. Who's who's gonna go without one? I know you pay him a lot of money, but sadly, policymakers have to sometimes help make and guide and direct some of those decisions too. They're certainly not easy ones to make by any stretch of the imagination, but, very important ones. Long story short, if or and when you are available, love to to conduct our annual training with with you as a council and a elected group as well as invite you to those other trainings as they fit your schedules.

Should we

opportunity to continue to work alongside with you. I I hope the the bad ones never come. I will be careful with the magic crystal ball. I've been shaking it just a little bit. Hopefully, we'll get some more moisture at the end of this weekend and and one or two more times before we get into summer. I promise not to drop it on the ground anymore. But thank you for all you do for us.

It's a pleasure working alongside you and the other elected officials here in Cache County. We appreciate you, Will. And I the question I had was, would it be helpful for us to bring any of this material with us Thursday night?

Yep. Trees? Absolutely. Having reviewed that council guide to emergency operations, it'll make you very familiar with what an emergency operation center is, how it functions, and allow us even more so on that night to spend a little bit more time on the electronics, talking about coordinating with response agencies out in the field, teacher, but absolutely, if you could get through that by Thursday night, you'll have a a really good understanding of of not only why the emergency operation center, but even more so once we get there, what do we do, and and how how should we do it? Great question. Thank you. Does anyone have any other questions for Will?

K. Thank you again. Thanks. Yeah. Thank you. Shake that crystal ball so we can get a little more snow. I think I think we might. I'll do just a little bit. K. Thank you. K. Diana,

the two tax exemptions are up next. Do we need to do public hearings?

Oh, you know what? We're gonna wait. You're too we're gonna do public hearings first. K. So our first public hearing is appointments to the Millville, Nibley, and Corner Cemetery maintenance district board vacancies. K.

Good evening, council. In your media packets, there should be a list of names of those who have applied to be on the Millville Nibley Cemetery Maintenance District. Unfortunately, we did not get any applicants for the Cornish Maintenance Cemetery District Board. From those four names, the process from here on out based on precedent is they will come up here, spend up to two minutes, explain why they would like to serve on the board. And then after that, later on in the meeting, there is a resolution that has one blank spot to fill the vacancy, and it would be appropriate for you all to motion and amend the resolution to contain the individual that you would like appointed. Do you have any questions on the process or anything related to this? Anybody have questions for Andrew? I think I think we're good. Well, are are are they all well, I'll just ask. See, there was one person who did reach out and say that they were not able to make it in time theta preplanned prior commitment. Their resume was sent along, and it should be in be in your immediate packet as well.

K. Alright. So I guess I'll start at the first one. And Byron Kim Ashcroft, are you here? Yes. K. Would you please come and take a couple of minutes to tell us about yourself and why you would like to serve on the cemetery district? Well,

my you know my name, Brian Kim Ashcroft. Thank you. And I worked for Logan City for thirty eight years and retired about a year and a half ago. And my good friend, Will, asked me here a little while ago, how do you keep yourself bored? Will, I don't have a problem finding plenty of stuff to do, but now this is my opportunity opportunity to serve the great community that has given so much to me. So I wanna give back a little bit of my time. K. Perfect. Does anyone have any questions for mister Ashcroft?

K. Alright. Thank you so much. Sure. K. Next, we have Robert Strong Bear Bates. Robert, are you here? We'd love to hear from you if you are. K. Alright. Next, we have Blake Downs.

Blake, are you here? He's the one I wasn't able to come. Is he the one that wasn't able to come? Yeah. He wasn't able to come. Okay. And then the last one is Curtis Smothers.

Is Curtis here? K. Well, thank you, mister Ashcroft. We will we'll have to take a vote on that later in the meeting. So thank you for showing up and joining us tonight. Okay. Eight a to the public hearing on ordinance twenty twenty six dash 14, the Dutson 2 rezone. Brian, I think you're gonna be up here a bit with us.

Good evening. How are you? This is Brian Abbott with the development services. Tonight, we have the Dutson 2 rezone located

Roughly. That's

okay. Located just North of Newton on the road to Newton Dam. Currently used for agricultural purposes right now. Short summary, there was a previous request for a rezone of 15.12 acres from a 10 to r u two. That was back in January and that was denied. It's located point four miles north of the Newton boundary. There's a max potential of three lots in the RU five zone. The nearest RU five zone is approximately 1.16 miles southeast of of this property. It is not located within a future annexation area of a of a municipality. The Newton town is opposed to this rezone right now. The general plan identifies this area as agriculture and ranching with preferred densities of not less than one unit per 10 acres. This came before planning commission 03/05/2026. The planning commission recommended approval of the rezone to the county council on a vote of three to two with one abstination. The conclusions that the, planning commission had is the rezone request meets the standards of the RU five zone. It allows for residential development in a moderately dense pattern that should be located and designed to not unreasonably impede adjacent agriculture uses nor to unreasonably conflict with municipal development standards. The zone is appropriately served by roads, utilities, and public services, and it is within a half mile of a municipal boundary and would would result in three lots or less. Any questions about the debts and rezone?

Any questions for Brian at this point?

So how does that work with it being divided? You know, would the lots be on one side or the other? Or

I I I I believe I I don't wanna if I wanna speak for the applicant or not. The last time he was here, he wanted the reason for this rezone so he could put both homes on the 0011 Lot so that they could keep 0020 open for their farming purposes. Okay.

K. Is the applicant here? Would you like to speak to us?

Hello. I'm Paul Dutson, the one who owns the land there. So me and my brother wanna move out there and bring our farms and our family and just live out there. It's quiet. It's different. We grew up on a farm and stuff and it kind of went away. And so we're just coming out there. The farmer who does farm my land, I've told him that he still can farm it. We're only gonna take a piece of it. And so I was gonna build on a half. He was gonna build on a half. We're gonna be on the one side of it, the 10 acres there. And then the other side is just gonna be still at for farming and stuff. Unless down the road, my sister decides she wants to build there. And so that's pretty much what it is. And so like I said, I'm just moving out there, been looking for a piece of land for years and found a nice piece. And we decided to buy it and start our families out there or bring our families and farm.

So the the five acres is on one side of the road, and then the other side has the 10 acres. Correct. And that's where you would put the two homes is on that 10 acres Yes. For now? For now. Yep.

K. And so he's gonna build on the north end, and I was gonna build on the south end, and then the other side is just gonna be open there. And we wanted to keep it into green belt, so we were gonna just kinda he was gonna take five and a half, and then I was just going to keep the five and then the other five there. So we can stay into green belt if you don't build more than take more than a half an acre of land or so.

I think the first acre is always not green belt, but I'm not sure. Yeah. Correct. Yes. I'll have all that down. K. Does anyone else have questions for mister Denson? So how long have you had the land there?

For about a year. And so the farmer, he's just been farm farming it and stuff. So

k. I have another question.

I heard a comment that it would be nice if you could put this the power underground. Have you thought of that? Or

It's all what the power company wants me to do. That's they're, I guess, supposed to do. The only thing they the county's required me to do once everything's approved is just to do the road and stuff and just make an easement on the way we pull into our property or stuff like that.

So yeah. K. Anybody else? K. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you. Is there anyone else here from the public that would like to speak to this

project? K. We have to close the public hearing.

Second.

It's been moved and seconded that we close public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. We'll now open the public hearing on twenty twenty six dash seventeen. No. 2026 Dash 15, the 40 acre industrial rezone. Another rezone, Brian. Wait. Will we're gonna let Brian talk first.

Alright. This is a 40 acre rezone request just barely outside of Amaoga. It's located immediately adjacent. They wanna request the rezone from the A 10 to the Industrial High Zone. You see here, so that shaded area is Amalgam City, so it's just right borders them right to the, north or the Shriver Ponds. I don't know if that helps you kinda know where the where it's at. A summary of this rezone request, it's located along S R 218, UDOT Road. The adjacent uses uses are agriculture on the east, west, and south, and then the Shriver Pond structure to the north. The nearest industrial zone in the county is located 3.56 miles away, South of Smithfield. Adjacent properties in Amalga are zoned light industrial. Amalga does not want to annex at this time, citing that getting services there would be too costly. Planning commission heard this also on 03/05/2026. They recommended denial to the county council on a vote of six to zero. Their conclusions is property is inconsistent with the general plan that identifies this property as having a future land use of agriculture and ranching. And the nearest parcel zone industrial is again three and a half miles south of Smithfield. And that's that summary. Any anything else for me?

I think we're good for now. K. Alright. Would you please identify yourself and and tell us what you'd like to say? Is it appropriate to hand these around?

I'm Dakota Bodily, and I propose this rezone. Currently, the parcel is owned agricultural. The stated purpose of the zoning is to encourage and to place emphasis on agricultural related activities. Due to the unstable, unsuitable soil conditions, the property is not viable for farming as evidenced by the parcel not holding greenbelt status. There is very poor crop yield, so the field is just weeds. This parcel is also not desirable for residential development due to its proximity with Shriver's Waste Ponds to the North and the dairy dump to the East. Industrial zoning represents the most appropriate and functional use of the land. The requested zoning aligns with the surrounding areas use existing industrial use by the strippers waste ponds to the North despite the agricultural zoning and then adjacent light industrial zoning to the East in Amalgam, a gas station proposal is being reviewed on that parcel through the city. Although there is not an industrial zoning in the county nearby, rezoning to industrial is consistent and compare and compatible with the surrounding parcel use. Rezoning supports a natural transition of highest and best use in the area and would conform with surrounding parcels. It would bring new business development, job creations, provide much needed space for blue collar businesses, increase tax revenues. This rezone request reflects a practical, compatible, and economical benefit use of the property given the surrounding land uses and limitations of the parcel. The industrial zoning is the most logical.

K. Thank you, mister Bodley. Does anyone have questions for the proponent? K. Alright. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else from the public that would like to speak to this project? Now is your time. K.

Move to close the public hearing.

Second. It's been moved and seconded that we close public hearing on twenty twenty six dash fifteen. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. The twenty twenty six dash seventeen. Is that you also, Brian? K. Will you

This is more or less kind of a housekeeping item for our ordinance numbering system. The state of Utah has significantly updated and renumbered its land use development and management act codes Didn't hear that. Which include the county land use development and management act. Code text amendments are not intended to modify policy, but merely to ensure sections of our county code which reference the state's land use and development act point to the correct section as it is currently numbered in state statute. So I don't know if you've had a chance to look at at all these. I don't think you want me to read them all. No. No. No. The text is exactly the same. It just cites different number for code. We'd like to align that with the state.

Does anyone have any other questions about that for Brian? Okay. Thanks, Brian. K. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak to this ordinance?

K. Move to close the public hearing. Second.

Move and seconded that we close public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Ordinance twenty twenty six dash 18, the consolidated fee schedule for nine one one services. Is that chief George? Who's It's Andrew. It's Andrew. Andrew. Oh, Andrew. Okay.

Good evening, council. So ordinance twenty twenty six dash eighteen, comes from a prior commitment that the county council made last year with Logan City. Specifically for the context of of this is Cache County is a priority to the interlocal agreement for dispatch services with Logan City. It was executed originally in 2017. The agreement continues to govern the provisions of dispatch services by Logan to the county and other entities. Amendment number one was what the county council considered last year, and that the the purpose of that amendment was to increase the fee assessment so that our dispatch center could continue to be funded and essentially be a reliable service for the county. The county council, I guess, the correct word would be passed the interlocal agreement. It was signed. And part of the provisions of those agreements, there is a set increase that the county has to agree to or increase fees by by year. So initially, it was a 30¢ jump, but every year afterwards, it's just a 3% increase instead of a 10%. So this year, that means the new assessment needs to be moved from the current $3.30 to a new $3.30 to a new $3.40. Here's the part of the interlocal agreement that talks about the mandated increases. It's supposed to happen until 2030. So you'll be seeing this for quite a bit.

K. Does anyone have any questions for Andrew?

But this is the text of the amendment itself. You have the change from $3.40, and then you have a change in state code reference because as mister Abbott pointed out, there was a recodification of title 17 in state code, so the reference change. So

And it was agreed upon that all funds stay in that

Correct. Item. Yeah.

It's not gonna turn into a Slush. Nope.

Nope. It it it was pretty clear. Enterprise fund. Yeah. So what's the total amount?

The total amount for the assessment Mhmm. That's being collected by the county? That's a good question. I'm not sure if our auditor has that right at the top of his head.

No. K. We can find out. We can find out. Yeah. Okay. K. Thank you, Andrew. Is there anyone here from the public that would like to speak to this amendment or this ordinance?

K. Alright. We have to close the public hearing.

Second. Jim moved and seconded to be closed public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Ordinance twenty twenty six dash 19. This one has to do with the county fire and EMS. That is gonna be chief George.

Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to present this. Basically, what we're trying to accomplish with this is to just match our fees with what our actual operating expense is with these. Most of the fees that you see that are just blue entirely with nothing that's readded out, those are fees that we've added to services we've been providing that we didn't have a good classification for. Part of the kind of discovery process on this was to look at what other agencies in the area are doing for fee schedules to try to mirror what they're doing so we're not generating new fees that others in the area aren't paying, and then also match our fees as close to that and what our actual costs to perform the services are in that process. One of the biggest ones that's in here is the reinspection first and second attempt fees. In the past, we would just keep coming out over and over again. We were incurring sometimes seven, eight, ten hours on a single inspection that was a $45 fee. And so that was causing subsidization of most businesses for that service to be taken care care of. Now this will allow us to go back and say, okay. We'll come back for the same price on a second time around, and then we're actually gonna increase the fee that third time around. And it's really just to incentivize, those that are building the new properties to process the first time and not use us as just a spot check, at at our expense.

Okay. Great. Anybody have questions about this fee schedule? Or No. I'm gonna show my ignorance. What is an agricultural zoning clearance?

So we've broken down Jason will be much better at answering that one. He goes to all of the meetings on that specifically. But, basically, anything that we do, I think, that moves from agricultural into other areas, specifically that's where we do a a separate clearance for that because it takes into account all of the water calculations and all of that.

K. K.

Great. Thank you. K. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak to these fees? Please approach us, and I hope you'll identify yourself.

Both of you. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And you can both speak.

Yes. David has a lot to say. You can see. So forgive me. The name? Oh, I'm Sarah Brenton. Okay. Thank you. If I'm understanding correctly, this is the last public hearing about the Cache County budget for 2026. Is that correct? It's not

It's not. It's coming up. Scheduled. This is just a scheduled

fee scheduled regarding the fire. Talk next. Yeah. Okay. This is just a fee scheduled for fire. Later. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Alright. Is there anyone from the public, anyone else that would like to speak to this fee schedule? K.

Move to close the public hearing.

Then move and seconded that we close the public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. We have a resolution opening and amending the Cache County 2026 budget, the second amendment. And before we'll have our auditor come and talk to us about that, and then we'll open it to the public. It's

okay. You can bring it. Mark, it's too cold.

Too cold? It says oo. Oui. Just a little bit. Alright. We're dusting the temperature a little bit.

Council members, I'm Matthew Funk, the Cache County Auditor. Before your day is resolution, twenty twenty six ten, a resolution to open the Cash County budget, for the second time. Just briefly, I would note that, but, statutorily, we open the budget once a quarter, and this would be the regular

Okay. Did you you wanna go through the budget amendments? Or does I would say let's have the public hearing, and then we'll maybe add And then we can ask you the questions later. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. I got the rest of you. Okay. Perfect. I got a list of Okay. Alright. This is now is the time for the public hearing on the budget opening.

Sorry. I was having a call, so I couldn't tell which number we were gone. That's okay. I'm Sarah Brinton, and I'm back with David. I'm here to just put one more plug in about the Cache County Library. I have a few points to make, and I'd just like to share them with this council and hope that you'll take a little bit of consideration for for what we have to say. One thing that I'm concerned about is the questions have still not been answered yet regarding, like, what the funds currently out allocated for the library will be put toward instead, especially considering that, you know, it's less than 1% of the budget. The $250,000 to to run it is less than 1% of the budget. So it feels like a drop in the bucket to those of us who are really hoping to keep the library as it is. I I'm also curious about the current library board is, like, pushing the solution of asking cities to take over the cost of running the library without encouraging any other options. And despite kind of unclear messaging, the county, it appears, really does have the funds to keep the library operating. And the return of investment of the average library in Utah in 2019 was $7.09 for every dollar spent on funding libraries. So if it's about money, we really can make a return. Also, it it seems like the point that gets brought up a lot is the double taxation argument. And it doesn't really feel relevant or accurate because city taxes funding private libraries are paying for separate and additional library services from the county library that also gives library access for their neighbors, the entire county. So this was voted on and approved by each city despite the county already funding the county library, so nothing is really being paid for twice. And so anyway, according to that rationale, asking some cities to raise taxes to cover the cost of the library will actually create the double taxation. So that doesn't really make sense to me or young David. Removing Removing library services has been proven to decrease public safety and could incur more costs higher costs for the public, those sorts of things. Rural isolated areas are at high risk for higher crimes. High risk for higher crimes, and these are the same communities that will be cut off from the free service. So the possibility of having a real county wide library system for Cache County is kind of, I think, the goal of a lot of people. And I know that that's a far out reaching goal, but it's still possible, and it's being sort of planned for behind doors by, library directors. But removing this county library will leave many communities without services, you know, until that's achieved, which we don't know if or when that will happen. And so I guess my proposal is to consider this 1% and if it's really necessary to close down the library as it stands because it has had actually a lot more engagement. We've seen a lot more, support for the library this year. And I'll just leave you with one sort of bit of wisdom that a professor shared with me a long time ago, which is imagine Cache County is a big family, and this council is a family council. And all of you here are hopefully listening, and hopefully cons considering everyone else's ideas. And it it might be that superior support of a mediocre idea is better than mediocre support of a superior idea. And it feels like ever since this conversation has come come up that the council thinks, okay, we have this superior idea. Get rid of that library, and that's our idea. When the public has come back again and again, and we're like, we like our idea. We like our library, and we hope that you'll consider extending the budget for us. Thank you. Thank you.

K. Is there anyone else that would like to from the public that would like to speak to our budget opening? K. We will oh. And you don't actually really want to talk. Let's not my cup of tea. And and we need I didn't say this earlier, but we probably need to keep comments to two minute two to three minutes at the most so that we can Okay. Just put me My name is Callie Ball, and I am also here to

lend my support to the Cache County Library. I've been a teacher in the Valley. I currently work for Utah State University still in education, and I visit a lot of classrooms around the valley. And I see kids that are learning to read and, learning all the things that they get to learn. And I know that libraries sorry, I don't want to cry. Libraries are important to this process. And I find it really concerning that we're thinking about taking books away from children to save half of a half of a percent of our budget. Like, that is really disturbing to me. And I would just encourage you to think about the library as more than a collection of books. It's a source of knowledge. It's a source of, learning. It's a source of community. It provides economic benefits like the previous, person mentioned. There's so much that can be benefit, that can benefit us because of the existence of a library in our community. I am from Providence, and so I am part of the county that would lose services to public libraries if this library were to shut down. So it's especially concerning to me. My children are mostly grown now, but they grew up reading books from the Cache County Library. And we would go there every week and we would check out their books, and they were things that I couldn't afford to buy. And I know that there's lots of families like that that are so grateful that there's books and activities available for their children because you can't buy a whole series of books just because your kid is all of a sudden interested in them. Obviously with my kids grown, our library usage has changed a lot. I still use the library heavily. I mostly check out digital books because it's just me and that's easier. But I would also like to advocate for all of the families in my neighborhood, in my community, across the county that will continue to benefit from access to this library. And I would say that not only do we need to continue to support it and fund it, that maybe we should look at increasing it and providing more resources to people across The Valley. And that's all. Thanks.

Thank you so much. Is there anyone else? Yes. And if if it's about the library, can you keep it relevant?

And two minutes. I have something I can speak about this without being emotional. My name is Jamie Gunderson. I live in Smithfield. I grew up in a home that had no books. My parents did not read they did cocaine. Because I have the library, I do not do cocaine. And my children grew up going to the library that we're talking about. It was a significant source of education and comfort and, like, things to do. It kept them out of trouble. It kept me out of trouble. I would be really grateful if that library were not closed.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else that's here to speak? K.

I just want to express my What's your name? Oh, sorry. My name is Julia Justice. I'm a resident of Providence, and I want to express my support for extending funding on the library until there is a clear plan in place. Members of the council many months ago when we were debating this, question initially. And I I'm not sure if, you remember the letter and all the facts and details that I included in there. But in the research that I've done, discontinuing funding for the library will create the single largest service gap for library services in the state. So let me repeat that, the single largest service gap for library services in the state of Utah. I would like to ask each council member to carefully consider whether that is a legacy you want to leave for the county. I know that library services are incredibly important for many different reasons. First and foremost in my mind is for child literacy. I know that exposure to books, being able to take books home, read books to your children is first and foremost in the step of developing child literacy. And without the ability to do that, we are creating a huge disservice to the families in our community that cannot afford to buy a library card at a different library. Many of which I know exist, many of which I know are having difficulty having enough money to provide food for their families, let alone providing money for a library card. I I mentioned in my letter to you many months ago that I have a family relative named Tony Finau. You may have heard of him. You may not have heard of him. He's a professional golfer and came from a very disadvantaged background. And he told his dad that he wanted to learn how to golf. So his dad went to the public library and checked out books on how to golf, and they studied those books and they learned how to golf from those books. And from that experience he was able to evolve his career into that of a professional golfer. Now I know that many things have changed since then in terms of digital versus physical resources, but the idea is the same and that we cannot as a community allow our disadvantaged citizens to go without the resources they need. And I just want to express my support of how important it is that we continue funding for this library until there is a concrete plan in place. As a responsible council, that is your duty. And once that plan is in place and someone else has decided to take over the library and there is a a plan established for its funding, then we can move forward in that direction, but until then, in my opinion, my very firm opinion, it is the council's responsibility to ensure that that happens, that you do not leave a legacy of 30,000 people in this county without access to library services.

Thank you. Thank you very much. K. Is there anyone else from the public that's here to speak? K. So it's gonna move to close public hearing. Move to close the public hearing. Second. Been moved and seconded that we close public hearing. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. But we're gonna go back to our board of equalization.

Just the request for a c. Request for authorization

or the administrative correction. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. This is the RDA. If you Diana, as you're talking, I want Andrew, where is that in the Zero six c. Zero six c. If you'll pull that up, you can see the exact amounts that we're talking about. It says information. K. You can go ahead, Diane.

Okay. So I see that we're on the agenda again for the administrative correction that was before the council last meeting on March 24, the authorization for the administrative correction for the 2023 tax increment distribution was approved with a stipulation that we hold the money filled today, for written statements from the entities to be submitted to myself in the auditors tax administration division. So I have received, some. I've received none from North Logan. I did receive an email from and I've provided copies for you. We have Cash Mosquito Abatement District saying they would like to keep theirs. I had the Hyde Park Cemetery CEO hand deliver his letter saying that they opted to elect to retain the twelve year payment. And then there's also a letter from the State Board of Education saying that they agree the funds should be fully remitted to the appropriate entities, that the state basic has to be returned, the charter levy should be remitted to the state treasurer, and that if they were to opt to sign away the local school levy, that they should proceed with caution because these funds are restricted and forgiving them may conflict with local budgetary rules and local interagency procedures. And as I say, I provided copies of all of the written documents that I received.

K. And I apologize that you didn't receive. There is a letter that was sent yesterday afternoon from the Cache County School District saying that they are willing to forego their $77,000. George, I don't know if you my email on my my iPad is not working. I know that it was sent to Nancy. They may be willing. They no. It said they would. Said they were willing to can you pull that up on the email? And I apologize that I didn't send that to you, Diana. Yeah. If you could She was it was sent to George. And also for

McAllister's distribution.

Yes. Okay. So we'll find that. So so, basically, in front of you all is the the amounts in question. North Logan City has already received their $21,000 They received that on March 31. Hyde Park Cemetery would like their money returned. Cash Mosquito Abatement would like their money. And then the statewide levy, that 27,000, the state needs that, and the charter levy, which is $616. That's the school district letter? Yes. Would you hand that to Diana, please? And, again, I apologize, Diana, that that was not forwarded to you. It was sent to George and to me late last yesterday afternoon, and we should all have a copy of that. So but that was signed by the stoop superintendent and their

I heard a rumor that Jared Black did not work for the school district any longer. Or I got more information on that. Transitioning.

Anyway, so those are the those are the amounts that we need to make a decision on, what what the disbursement. As far as as far as I can see, there's there's no question. And I did speak to mayor Peterson, and she agree she understands all this and does not want to be in an adversarial, relationship with the county. And she understands that it was just it was a very unfortunate circumstance that happened that I don't think anyone was trying to be to to I'm losing my words. No one tried to be, I wanna say, naughty, and that's not a good word. So nobody was trying to do this unethically. It just happened, and it needs to be corrected. And so and and it's not it's not done with any mal malintent. So we just need to vote on what are the which of these checks we're gonna release to these entities and, how we're gonna handle that tonight because it needs to be done tonight for our treasurer who has already written these checks. He's just waiting to see what to do with them.

So does anyone want to speak up and say what they think? I I looked at everything, and I know that they may forego that. But I it's my impression from the letters from the the state. I'm just shocked that I don't wanna get in between the state education and then local, you know, as far as those restricted funds.

Well, it

yeah. You know, that's you know what I'm saying? I just don't wanna be that in between. And I I, therefore, I would say that we go ahead and approve the authorization to correct the to correct the tax increment distribution error, fully. And then let the let the entities pursue it after that.

K. I've got a motion in a second. Is there further discussion? I would like to discuss that further. Yes. I'm sorry, Dave. I I guess I didn't. No. I I just don't understand. This seems to me like this this last minute letter here that they would forego it. But if you read, I read it. Let Well, the the state The state says they can choose to do that. There may be some restrictions, but it says they are allowed to do that. But I don't want they but If there's a problem, they'll have to deal with it. Like, that's how I feel. They've said they would forego it.

I don't know. And all of the liabilities placed on them? Would do we as a county want to get between those restrictions? I think that restricted use is something that that's between the school district and the state for them to work out. And they'll have to. Yeah. So I don't know whether we just want to hold those funds until, you know, I just say, hey, go ahead. Release it. District do what they I don't know. Let them work it out a different way. Right. But it it basically frees up what we needed to do.

Hyde Park Cemetery is elected to keep theirs.

And I'm

I'm sitting here saying anybody would elect to keep their money, but is it the right thing to do based on where we're sitting here right now? Yes. They would have to elect to forego their money for it to for us to not give it to them. And no one has done that except Cache County School District, and they have elected to forego their $77,000.

And that came from the superintendent?

Yes. Tim McKee signed it.

Okay. Was to me, the the the the Straighter and the superintendent, but not the school board. That's what that's what bothers me is the purse strings of the budget and everything again are the Cache County School District Board. That letter should have come somehow from them or, you know, through their approval that they that it was brought in a public meeting, and it was done right and to where they rather than just the superintendent sign it off and say, yeah, we'll forego it. I worry

I worry about a mess there. I think they felt like they their records all indicated that it was a twelve year. They were not expecting the money. I I still think we should should not give that. I think we should withhold that and give it back to yes, George?

The school district has has spoken what their intent is, and it's clear what they said in the letter. David, is the school district board leadership and the district administration do not want to claw back the money. That that's what their letter has told us. I think the issue for us to decide is we also have a share of that money, and we have to decide whether we want to retain that money or not. That's our decision, but the school has made their decision, and so have each one of these other entities, which I don't think we should interfere with anybody's decisions here. But we have to make our own decision with But we have to make our own decision with respect to our county portion of this money.

Yeah. And my motion is that everyone gets their money.

Okay. I've had a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion?

I

think it sounds like there's differing opinions of where we're at on this whole thing. I don't know if there's a heart, and just remind me if there is a firm deadline. This decision must be made today, or is it just a matter of holding the check for another

I don't know I don't know if there'll be legality.

Let me finish my train of thought. If it's that simple, then why didn't we just do that from the beginning?

There was just a question from Logan Logan North Logan City about

how much of the funds they would receive. Well, I understand that. That doesn't that's not changed with any of this. I'm saying if it's really that easy, then why did we have to do anything other than say, well, we'll call back our part, and everybody else figure out their own. Because you decided to do that last week. I know. That's what I'm saying, Craig. Just why did we decide to do that if it's that easy that we can just do it like this tonight? So is it truly this easy?

I don't know the legalities if that check is sent to the school district rather than North Logan. Like, I I just don't know. And they had said they would forego the money. Money. But I have a motion and a second that we send all the money as it's outlined to us from that check. Any further discussion before we take a a vote? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Nay. So it's three to three, so it fails. Right? Yep. K. Alright. So So what happened? So that would be two. Where is Tegan? We need I know. I know. We need our fourth we need our seventh member. I think that the the I think, really, the the If I may

I thought you're just deciding on what we're doing with our money.

Well, no. We were we were waiting to hear from the school district. That was kind of the implication. And we would wait what to do with it. Just And they've told us what they want. Like, is there any indemnification there? Like, they've given us instructions of what to do with it. Like So correct me if I'm wrong in the other

parliamentarian in the room, but the motion failed. That doesn't mean we can't make another motion. Yes. Yeah. Could then we'll So, Craig,

The local I just changed the check. Give it to and give it to North Logan. Right?

The 50

Yeah.

And they're willing to forego that. I just I'm shocked.

So Just George. I would like to address the county's portion of the money.

Is

that on the floor?

That I think that I think everyone's pretty clear on that, but I don't know.

We want that. Yeah.

$22,077.92 is the county's share. And on the twenty fourth, you did not vote on whether you would elect to forego it or if you would retain what was rightfully theirs.

Regardless of what you the the parties who have come and written correspondence saying they want their money, there shouldn't be any question about giving them their money. Yes. Apparently, there's a disagreement about the school board, but there is another party involved, and that's the county themselves. I don't disagree that there is an error here and that we're entitled to keep the $23,000 of the county money. We have not waived that in any form. But I would bring up with you some of my own accounting trying to balance credits and debits with these cities. And I just have to tell you that we are so far out of track with with how we debit and provide services. For example and and this is just North Logan. There are a bunch of other cities here. I've been tracking how much money has been coming from them and how much money has been going back in terms of the fire district. This year, previous year, we've been collecting approximately $400,000 a year from North Logan City alone, and we have not been providing any measurable fire service back to them for that money. None. So that's just one city, and we're talking about $23,000. During the term that this $23,000 is eleven years. We've every year, been collecting 400,000, 370,000, those kind of dollars from North Logan City for fire and not providing any fire services back. We've been doing the same thing with other city. We have serious problems with how we have allocated money and services. I don't wanna grind too fine here over $23,000 in North Logan City, but my advice is we have the right to keep it. I think I'd let this one go and not open it.

K. And I I have to push back just a tiny bit on that and not nowhere near the $400,000, but there are things that the county fire does that benefits the whole county. And that it's maybe not quantifiable, but it's not nothing. It's not nothing. Yes. I agree with you about that. I I I don't wanna put that on the record because it's not nothing.

K. So I'm to take another motion. I'm ready for another motion. I guess I would move then with

that we would then Hey. Do you wanna look at this?

Well, that we would then, go ahead and, pass the request for authorization to correct the tax increment distribution and collect everything, and re and distribute everything except for Cache County School District. Local. Do you wanna specify that that's the local level? For the local level. Mobile levy. Yeah. Local. Not the state or the charter. Not the state or the charter. Just the seventy seven. County School District in the North Logans goes to them. All others will be

Including the county. Yep. K.

K. There's a I don't and go ahead and I'll give you just a second then I'll I'll see something. There's a motion on the floor. Does everyone understand the motion?

I second the motion. K. I have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Make sure everyone knows what we're voting on. We're gonna distribute all of this money where it belongs, except for the distribution for Cache County School District. $77,000.92 and 60¢ will go back to North Logan. They've already received their 21,000. That was given to them on March 31. Following the instructions of that letter. Following the instructions of the letter. K. We got a mo a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. The motion passes. Thank you all. That was and Diana, thank you for I I just Thank you. No. Thank you for all your work on that. I know that you have put in countless hours and research to figure this out. And it like I said, it was unfortunate that it happened the way it did. It's not anybody's fault, but let's we've done our best to make it right. And the school district, I guess, is okay. So we'll move on from that. Craig, are you clear?

I'll just give it up better. K. Alright. Thank you.

Second. It's been moved and seconded that we enter board of equalization to discuss the exclusive use property tax exemptions. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

No. K. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Tonight, we have before you the final exemptions for 2026. So these are all of the entities that actually had hearings that were attended by, auditor's office through tax admin, Dave and Cindy, and then, of course, the entities. So if I could say, if we look at the three medical ones first

k.

IHC, and they have an extensive schedule a in your packet where much of it is in your packet where much of it is taxable because it is rented to, say, doctors. That is disclosed and vetted through my office and through the assessor's office. And so we recommend that with IHC that they are approved, you know, based on that schedule a with adjustments for space that are used by their tenants conducting for profit activities on the hospital campus and also vacant space is taxable, which is not being used exclusively for their charitable purpose. And they more than make up for their tax. With all of the personal property is what the recommendation is for Yep. On IHC. And then if you want you want to move to Sunshine Terrace Foundation, how is it the Terrace Foundation. That was a delightful visit for me to the Sunshine Terrace. And all of their property is used 100% for their charitable purpose. So that is the recommendation, all real and personal property to be exempted from taxation. K. The last medical is is Health West. And they they have long changed their business model since buying it from the Cache Valley Community Health Center. There is quite a bit of vacant space and rental. They still are providing medical and pharmacy at the Providence location. The North Logan facility is a 100%, but the Providence one is the one where we have to make an adjustment for their tenants and their vacant space. So, our recommendation is 19.22% on that square footage for the Providence and a 100% on the North Logan. So did you want to make a motion on the medical separate, or do you wanna just move right on into the Utah Festival operator? I was so moved that we accept Health West,

IHC, and Sunshine Terrace as a charity, medical applications. Second.

It's been moved and seconded that we approve these three health medical applications that we've received. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? They were wonderful visits. They really were doing good things for our community.

They do. So and they really all proved that their charitable gift to the community far exceeded their tax liability. So that's always nice to see. And so then moving on to Utah Festival Opera. This was the first year year that we called for a hearing because tax admin discovered there was rental income. And so then, you know, we had to vet that to see if it was for profit, if it was a non or nonprofit usage. But with the information that we did acquire from them, our recommendation is for them to be 98.22% exempt. That was based on their income minus the sale of those apartments because that has nothing to do with their operating income. So it was basically operating income and the the for profit rental income that brought us to that 98.22%. That is our recommendation tonight.

I move to approve the recommendation presented by,

the staff on the Utah Festival Opera Company. I I second that. It's in Rubin's segment that we approve the Utah Festival Opera's, property tax exemption. Is there any further discussion?

I think that it the business that we had with the Utah Festival Opera, I thought was really an amazing business. One, it I think it helped everybody from the education that went on as we've talked through things and everything. First, there was some little bit of misunderstanding or something like that. But I tell you, when we talked through it all and everything, I know they were extremely helped into and and to sharpen a lot of their books and what they need to do, and I thought it was very helpful for for them, especially. I thought they easily could have entertained us for two hours. Yeah. They were sad to see us go. But it was positive. It was really a positive. It it was as much educational. It wasn't finding in fact finding, and I thought it worked out really, really good for everybody.

Now that I've got the votes that I need, shall we close? We I haven't we haven't voted yet. That there there was a motion and a second. Anybody else want to make any further discussion? K. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K.

Thank you, Sandy and Dave, for your extra work you did on-site visits. Thank you. Okay.

Thank you, Diane. We need to move to close board of equalization. So moved. Second. We're moving the segment that we close board of equalization. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Alright. Proposals for consideration of action, and these are initial proposals. Let's start with the first one, the Dutzen rezone. You guys wanna open to Brian, you might wanna come in case we have questions for you, but this we'll mostly discuss this among ourselves. K.

The only question I had, Brian, was, Newton's. What what was you know, what was really Newton's I guess, they're against it. What are they

Yeah. Depending on what they There was a letter. There was a letter. Yeah. There's a letter, but it doesn't really say much. They Yeah. They don't think the road is Adequate or Adequate. But as far as county roads go, I've seen a lot worse than that one. It's still pretty good. Yeah. I was just out there today. I drove out there. Just straight south is the city border, and there's brand new subdivision with ten, twelve lots for sale. So it's not like it's gonna be out of place.

They'll have to fix the shoulders. They're substandard. They'll fix those as part of water an issue that they brought up at all? K.

So does does someone want to make a motion on that? Do you wanna keep talking about it? Tell me where you wanna go with it. I I would move that we waive the rules, and

and we support planning and zoning in their action and approve the Dutson rezone.

I'll second that. K. It's been moved and seconded that we approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 14, the Dutson two rezone. Is there any further discussion? K. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. K. Ordinance twenty twenty six dash 15, the 40 acre industrial zone. That one, the planning commission voted six to zero for denial. I do have a question. K.

At one point, it says here that it was a gas station proposal is being reviewed on the parcel.

That's it. Yeah. The parcel, just adjacent to it that's in Amalgam City. Yeah. It's within the city. That's within the city. Oh, an adjacent parcel. Yeah.

Ah, gotcha. Not this.

You know what? We can't. Yeah. Hang on. Are you talking about the city parcel or the The 40 acres. Yeah. That'll be not a storage shed, but more like a a place that has storage with an office so that they can run a business out of that. You know, garage doors, maybe small fabrication shop, just some shop space with some office space.

Industrial parts.

I kinda feel like the like, some of the other the the last time we had looked at an an industrial zone. I don't think it fits there. The nearest industrial zone is three and a half miles away, and that to me industrial is one of those things that can get out of hand once you rezone it.

Anyway, I would take a motion on this one. Problem with this one is that it's not really good for farming.

I'm I'm really sorry about procedures that you can't speak during this unless we address you. I I don't wanna be rude at all because Yeah. Yeah.

That happens during the public hearing and then You know, in in industrial zone, right there in that area, I would think very differently. If Amalgam wanted would would annex it, bring it in, and and they control that, you know, within their area. But

I talked to I talked to yeah. I talked to the mayor today

or yesterday about that. It's

just the town's not ready to do that yet. Yeah. And we would owe you know, as far as it's probably really expensive then to start providing services Yeah. When it's annexed. It could be quite costly. But but the other thing is it you know, within the county, in within that area sitting out there in industrial zone, You know? We can think we can say right now this is what I plan to do, but an industrial park could lend itself to several other things. It could.

Well, plus there's no there's no services to it. So so it's like wells and world and septic. I just don't I I just don't think it,

really fits, with that area at all. And, and therefore, I would move that we also support our planning and zoning commission and deny the 40 acre industrial rezone, which is what's the number on that one? Twenty twenty six dash 15. I guess you have to waive the rules, right? Yep. Waive the rules and then deny the 26 twenty six fifteen forty acre industrial rezone. I'll second.

K. I have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? K. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. K. Alright. See, ordinance twenty twenty six dash 17 amendment to the Cache County code title sixteen and seventeen, the recodification. Zoom one. That one was pretty simple. That was one Andrew talked about. The it's just basically re redoing the numbers. Oh, no. Brian. Anyway, Brian talked about that, but it was all numbering.

I move to suspend the rules to align.

To approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 17, amendment to the cash running code title sixteen and seventeen. Second. K. It's been moved and seconded that we suspend the rules and approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 17. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Twenty twenty six dash 18, the consolidated fee schedule. That's the one Andrew talked about. Services. The $9.01 1 fee. Yep. We already agreed to this. We already agreed to that. Yeah. Down to it. And it's 10¢. So k. I'd take a motion on that one.

I will waive the rules and approve

and recommend approval to ordinance twenty twenty twenty six dash 18 amending the Cass County consolidated fee schedule. Second. K. It's been moved and seconded that we approve waive the rules and approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 18. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Twenty twenty six dash 19, the Cache County consolidated fee for the e fire and EMS.

I would like the motion we waive the rules and approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 19, amending the Cass County consolidated fee schedule to amend fee assessment related to county fire and EMS services. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash 19. Any discussion?

Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Let's move on to our budget opening.

Hooray. Let's move that to the next meeting. No. No. Excuse me. Wait. No. Thank you.

Wait. No. Thank you. Bite your tongue. K. I don't know how if you like, we went through all these in appropriation meeting, but I don't know how much you guys want to talk about the the details. I I'm sorry that the people that spoke about the library left because there's funding in here to to enhance the library funding to continue. Year. Yeah. So I'm sad that they left. I didn't see them leave. I should probably have told them that that we're gonna be discussing it later. And, anyway

The proposal was given to us by the librarian.

Yes. Yeah. We we received a proposal from a librarian. We agreed that we would give the an extra 20 she she amended her budget and said that if she had an extra $20,000 in to add to the six months funding that we already gave her, that she could stretch it out to the December. And we voted to in appropriations to recommend that, and so that's in your packet. But this

I have a suggestion. This is quite a bit more, ain't it?

No. It's really not. It just it just reworks the whole budget, but it really only adds that $20,000. Right, Matt? That's I mean, that's okay. What other things? There was Matt your attention. There was a question about the

the

oh, Joanne. Sorry. I'm sorry. That's okay. Just throw something at me.

Well, I went through these increases. Uh-huh. I maybe didn't get all of them, but, you know, I just feel bad that we have increased maybe others to to accommodate it. Because I just I don't know about 18%. I mean, even with these fees that we voted to increase, you know, that all adds up just like increased taxes.

Paying them. We can if we want, we can go through them a little bit one at a time. Some of the increases are things that like, there was a a piece of road equipment that was ordered, and it's been on back order for two years. And now the the price has gone up, and they still need the equipment. Right. I mean, I we as an Appropriations Committee, we did not see anything. The only one that I remembered questioning there was a couple, but the one that I remembered was the public works was asking for a new employee to clean, a full time employee to do cleaning at the at the Public Works Building. And I believe that's gone, that they I don't see that in voted

not to not to approve that. Okay. I think they're gonna come back

in June again with a better explanation. So Matt Matt Phillips did talk to me about it and says he would he couldn't be here tonight, but he had thought he had gone through that and done a pretty good job of what was needed there based on the contract. And so he says, I guess I just need to explain it better. He gives he says, this will make it better. And he did say that that person would not be just for the higher building, that it would be able to work around in different areas.

Yeah. I think the question in appropriations, they they had been paying a contract for $44,000 a year, and now they're adding they want to replace that with a full time employee that that I I he he just needs to talk to us about it a little bit more. That would cut the cost because that person would be floating around to other areas. So k. Yeah. We'll Not putting words in his mouth, but that's what he spoke to me about. To me about too. And he even said, when I talked to him, that he may even be able to get by with a part time and not make it a full time person. But he does need somebody that's not just a contract cleaning with a cleaning service. He wants somebody that they can have move around and and help out. And so I'm sure that'll come back. So is it out of here now? It's not in here at all. K. So back in the next budget. Okay? Talk about another time. Yeah. So I don't know if there's any other specifics that anyone saw in here. I know Dave has some questions. So why don't you start? Go right in. Okay. Well, first of all, I just gotta

you could just kinda give me some clarity. I I pretty well understand a lot of it. But k. When things are taken out of fund balance k. The fund balance is what to the county?

Is is it's the the equity that we've built up over over time. K. They they're kind of our savings.

Yep. Yeah. That's their savings that we Uh-huh. That's that portion that we rely on, and we have not been filling that. We've been taking from that for the past several years. Right? In the general fund. Yes. In the general fund. Okay. And the the reauthorizations, these are these are basically things that are coming in from previous budgets. Probably, could be one or two, three years ago, whatever it's coming through now, it's being reauthorized

to be used. Right? Right. So if we did a a $3,000,000 road project and authorize that two years ago, but we just haven't finished it all up yet and we still have a little more to go. We have to have we have to reauthorize that spend. K. And then the last question I had,

and and I love you y'all watched this video, didn't you? Go on the circuit. It's really good. His little video on his explanation on how to find that I never did, by the way. I never did find that to where you could go and click on. But I was able to go find it, you know, everything down below and it worked out great and I it really but it was it was good to have a little bit understanding, say, in numbers so and so through here is what they do. You know? And it it it sped up some some reading because that gave me a lot of understanding. But there is one comment in one of those letters of, their reasoning for that money. And they talked about backfilling. What are they doing when they are backfilling a budget? Do you do you recall which Yeah. Which memo it is. It came out of the sheriff's. And I just wonder what is it it it was very sheriff specific on a thing. It was this money that they were wanting to backfill a fund.

I I think I know what that is.

And I I just There were a lot of moving parts. That I've I've I've heard, but I've always heard of, basically, you're trying to bury something.

There were a lot of moving parts in 2025, and the sheriff's department spent all of their budget for vehicle upgrades. And then they placed an additional order with that vendor that they didn't have the budget for. And I believe what you're referring to is they they need to get square with that vendor. We we owe that guy $19,350.

That that was with the explanation.

we got the the the invoice from the vendor. The vendor was slowly getting us the invoice. It was February before we got the invoice. And the financial the analysts wanted to go ahead and pay that. I said, no, you can't. It it has not been authorized. We don't have money. And so the vendor has been waiting actually, I think, since November. So they're they're going on six months waiting to get paid. But until and unless the council authorizes that, you know, and and the takeaway, obviously, and this lesson I think has been learned by that department is is they need to track those dollars more carefully because if they overspend,

they overspend want everyone to be listening to this because I think this is very valuable. And, you know, I've I've been on the the council for this is I'm approaching it at my twelfth year, and this is we're seeing people now within our system that are doing very good in saying, hey. No. There's no budget. We've got to correct that before something's done. And some of those, I think, were just done.

They I think in the past, they were. And and this is the only closed. This this exactly. And the sheriff's isn't the only case where that's happened. I think at, senior center, council for aging, we had promised to we signed a contract with the vendor to pay them, but you haven't authorized it. Right. And

I but I appreciate this. And this is what that's why I'm as I'm understanding all these things and and I'm able to with your explanation, I I jump around and it's boy, it brings a lot of clarity, but I think it is huge in where we've come to.

Yes. They are. And I and I have recommended that they stop being that was done by our previous finance director. Right. And I think it should just be one bill that comes to the county. It's paid out of the non governmental

and that's what I think. I feel the same way. So if you guys all fill that, then we can give that direction. So this next year, could we we'll just look at that and see if we can somehow bring that into where, you know, it's basically one fee from the county. It covers all departments. Yep. Yeah. Not it's been split up by elected officials. Yes. Okay. That's ridiculous. Not necessary. I know we've talked about that at other times, but let's just kinda keep that in this forefront. Yep. Well, what fund would that be?

That's general fund dollars. It's it's It's called it a general fund. In in the past, I believe it come off of the councils,

specifically. And it could. If you wanna put that in the council, and it is basically covers all Everybody. It's just wherever we budget us. You know? Where are we gonna find that? We can we can do that. Yeah. Whatever Wherever we I just think it ought to be I just don't think that every department needs to worry about, oh, we gotta pay the UFP. You know? No. That's just something that we the legislative to to do. And so I think it's that important that, you know, it's just one fund. But that's that's minor. And it will break the fee down by department. They don't, do they? We did. Our finance director did How would you

By elected official. He just split it by elected officials. Because the Yeah. That's right. Each office. Yeah. And and they will member chooses to be a member. And and I I think we do this so it's it'll really just as simple as it is. Make it simple. But I wanna make a one plug because I am on the UAC executive committee, and they have not raised their dues in Yep. Five years, six years. It's been they've kept it steady. So that we should be grateful for that, and they do a lot for us. On it? I think so. Yeah. I mean, they're they're increasing their funding sources quite

heavily so that they don't have to increase our Dues. Dues. So Yeah. Their their sponsor list has exploded. Yeah. It has. Yeah. And which is which is helping everybody. And it's good for us. Pretty deep. So number 23. I want some understanding on that. Was was this included in the original budget?

You you remember the feasibility study that you authorized a year or two ago? Uh-huh. You authorized it and the contract was signed, but for whatever reason, you you never appropriated this last $7,900.

Okay. Well, they got a CIB grant that should have covered all of it. Yes. But that having been said, you still have to So it it is it's covered by a grant. That one that's not extra money coming out of our fund it's not coming out of our general fund even though it says fund balance, but that it was replaced with a grant on the CIB. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just So it's been You know, these I tell you, we can really It's all fun. We can actually

hunt feasibility studies until we're broke.

So, you know This one's important. Something like it everything's important. This one's this one's very important. No. This everything's important.

So, number 24. Let's see.

The COG request to use their interest.

Now on that, they're wanting all the interest. Right? That they have earned on on their funds. That they've end on on that COG monies. Right? Yes. They want that to stay everything.

No administration type things for us to be able to That's correct. They they they get those interest all that interest. They're they're very

diligent about making sure Is that just getting put into their award balance for this? It it it it goes to their fund balance. Their fund balance. Okay.

The county had budgeted for a project that we did not get the COGRA work for.

Okay. And so we need to reverse out that that budget. And so that's actually coming back in then. It's coming back in. That's okay. That's Yep. Yeah. Back in the municipal services of a lot of I tried digging through that in the back and forth in the back and forth, and I go, okay. Now where which rabbit hole did it get down? You know? But that that's all coming back. I appreciate I appreciate the the explanations and and some understanding there. And that's the only questions right now that I have.

K. And I I want to to Joanne's point too that, you know, we worked so hard on the budget. We cut it. We tied it up with a bow. We did our best, and we still had to raise taxes. And now here, we're appropriating another $400,000. And at some point, it's you know, it's all it all seems very necessary. It's all everybody has needs. But at some point, we might just have to say no. Like, it's it's it's a it's really hard for me to appropriate another $400,000.

Mhmm. When It's because you see the nest's Yeah. The need for it, like the library. Yeah. I mean, we Obviously, it's needed. That's something we want. Yes. But we can't afford it. In certain cases, I'm not saying that specifically.

Yeah. But And and that's how and it and that's hard. Those are hard decisions to make. And so I'm hoping that as we keep working to to limit our budget and to tighten things up and do the best that we can, that that these appropriation requests, these budget openings will become less and less. So April, May, June, the next one. The next one's in June. The next one is sixty one days away. Yeah. We're yeah. This one this one, we would have done last time, but it we didn't do the public we didn't notice the public hearing the time before. So this one should have been three weeks ago. So we're a little bit moving into the next budget opening. But and, Matt, you do such a good job of explaining things and helping us work through this. So thank you. On number 25,

I have one question. I I believe Providence is actually did I hear that they're proposing an increase to fund the library?

Yeah. And I and I think through this whole process, we've all been committed to helping to make ensure that everyone in the county is has a library available to them. It just needs to be paid for equitably, and we're I think there's coming up we're coming up with some different ideas and some some different programs. And I I'll just say, because I've said this many times before, I think it's just tragic that we don't have a county wide library system, but the voters voted that down in 2010. And if someone was gonna pull try and pull that back together now that there's so many so much money has been spent on city libraries, it would be even more difficult. But I think I I it would be wonderful to have a a proposition that would make sense to everybody and make because I think that would be, among other things, we should be doing countywide. And that's how I feel about it. But And we need to commend

those cities that have stepped up. They've spent a lot of money Yeah. On their libraries. You know, and and said, you know what? It is important to our city. Right? You have to I I think it's wonderful that a lot of those cities, even the smaller cities that they they still have a functioning library, volunteerism is still strong in some of those cities. And and they are, you know, they're they're willing to do it. And so we I think that that role of the city is very, very different than that of the county in that aspect. So I agree. I kinda wish that every city would grab that and embrace that even, you know, to

from city to city. And it and I think when this is all settled, hopefully, we can still make sure that that everyone in the unincorporated parts of the county and that that we still provide that service because I think it's important. Anyway I have another question. Okay.

Now this is, you know, the summary at the end, so it might be different than what you guys are talking about. But I have had 35,000 there for the elections. Is that true? You asked for an increase of 35,000, or is that kind of a bookkeeping deal?

It it might be, Joanne, at the end The summer. Which

which one are you asking about, Joanne? Something that there was a deal. Down at almost the very end. It just said increases. It listed the elections.

Number 66.

Yeah. 66.

Yeah. So yeah. K. K. So I'm ready to take a motion unless anyone has any other questions for Matt or for those of us Catherine and Nolan and I are on the Appropriations Committee. And Is this the initial reading? Process. Yeah. It's the initial reading, but we're like I said, we're three weeks late. If anyone wants to keep asking questions and digging, we can hold it off for another meeting. We meet again in one week. But if anyone wants to make a motion, I would entertain a motion.

I will proceed, waive the rules, and make a motion that we approve resolution 2026 dash 10

on the opening and amending the Cass County 2026 budget. Oh, we don't have to amend the rules because it's a resolution. Right? I'm learning. Okay. I know I knew that was so exciting. I was so excited because I got it right once. I'll second that. Okay. Sorry. It's been moved and seconded that we approve resolution twenty twenty six dash ten, opening the county budget. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Moving on. K. The resolution, 2026Dash12, making appointments to the Millville Nibley Corner Cemetery maintenance district board vacancy. You know, people are just dying to get on this board. I know. I know. I

know.

I was waiting for that. I know. I was waiting for that one.

Okay. Where did I write down? You've been here too long now. Yeah. I know. I'm getting lost. We only had one applicant that actually showed up. That would be my my vote. But I I'm waiting for a motion.

I move I would hope yeah. I'm gonna wait till that comes from that area. I move to approve,

I'll second that. K. It's been moved and seconded that we approve mister Ashcroft to the cemetery maintenance district. Is there any further discussion? Those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. We're done with that one. Alright. Pending items. Removal of certain class b road segments from Cache County's class b road system. This is one that we have put off quite a bit. I I still think we're not ready to I I would propose that we table that for a minute after talking with our attorneys. There there's some there's legal issues that we we're pretty sure we're right on, but there's also some PR issues with those communities that we there's really I don't think there's a huge, need to push that through right now, except that we can help mister Hamblin to get in. And I've been I think, Andrew, if you wanna or Dane, if you wanna talk to the issue of allowing him access to that road up in River Heights.

Well so I I will say my my position remains the same that the county's legally sound in the path we're taking. I mean, if the council it's more of a political decision of how the council wants to proceed at this point. But there I know the chairs spoke to to Matt Phillips about some maintenance and as far as the the subdivision's been approved by River Heights where it's really a unique situation that we wouldn't have occur anywhere else in the county where there is a annexation that takes place where there's a county road completely within a municipality because this is the only road that is completely within a municipality. And so if the council chooses to move forward on this resolution, I I believe it's in compliance with our rolls manual because there there really is no other alternative. And, really, this probably should have been something that when the annexation was approved, that it should have taken the road. And

that's the landowner we've been talking about who's been going back and forth with us and River Heights. Right? Mhmm. And I agree we've held him up Way too long. Way too long. Yeah. And

so whatever whatever we do today, I I don't think the council I I think the road's manual allows for for an exception if there's no other alternative,

to allow access. And so so

everything else, and it makes sense. And here we're giving them a roadblock, so to speak. No pun intended. I love

on that piece or its other parts? Right? All of it. All of it. All of it. All of it. We we do. Maintenance on all of it. And that's kind of the question right now is at what what maintenance may need to be done before we turn it over that that we have maybe deferred some maintenance that I don't know. I don't know what you what tell me what you guys think. I know that we've been looking at this for a long time, but I also know that besides the the development, I don't see the urgency in the road. That's yes, Andrew?

I will note that we, the county attorney, have drafted such a resolution already that which that could be ready for the next county council meeting. So To allow the

access to that road. K. Everyone else say what you think and or make a motion.

So let me get this straight. Resolution he's talking about, if we delay this till a week from tonight, then that lets that developer proceed forth, then I'm cool with that. Yeah. That'll be

Not only do we have maintenance there, but we've also got part of the road which has been dug up like crazy that That that wasn't ours. Wasn't ours. Yeah. So Yeah. I I think there's still some negotiations to be done. And I think when I talked to Matt, he said he said, let me he couldn't be here tonight. He felt really bad. He wanted to give us a report. But I think maybe he could prepare something that gives what maintenance have we not done that we would have done that we received the class b road money for that that maybe could be done just to be a good neighbor before we give that back. And

I think being a good neighbor could be Keep us pending till next week. We'll get more detail, I'm sure. K. And we just go with that other resolution too to keep them going. Yeah. I I I do think we need to keep that

Yeah.

There's going to be more discussion on this. I think we should at least have the other one on the agenda as well. K.

Alright. Other business, the lapel pin design. Andrew, I exciting. I know. I asked Andrew to do this because when I was in I was with some other council members from I know. Not that one. I was with some other council members in Washington, DC, and they had some they had some really nice lapel pins that just said, like, San Juan County commissioner. And so, like, we don't have any jackets, and we don't have anything that identifies us. I thought it would be nice if when we go to UAC or when we go to official things, we could wear a lapel pin that said Cache County Council. However, it's very expensive. And so, Andrew,

is the We have to wear a jacket everywhere.

We could do a lot. We could do a You're not helping me. But I'm here for it. Sounds like I'm still gonna try and get shirts designed for the parade season, like this week. Did you guys see the design that Andrew did? There's two different designs, and they're both very, very beautiful. The price on them would be it would be a $144 to buy 20 of them. It's it's more cost effective to buy more than, like, seven or eight or nine of people that would want to wear it now, but we we'll have other people get elected through the years that

yes, Andrew. Alternative could be, and I think it's always easy for me to say another department should take care of this. But I have noticed that out of the Public Works Building, they do have a somewhat reformed to Cache County logo. I think that if that was beaver on it? Yeah. I think so. If you, like, did, like, a small version of that compared to what we have now I'm sorry. You can make a lot of those and it would be very, cost effective and you could just give those out in general, not necessarily just accounts members, but that's just an idea. How big is this one? That is It's probably just seven five inches. Six That's the size Oh, six inches? That's why I'm so cute. I can wear a long hair for it. Point seven five. It's like a I don't have this I want the big old chain too. A nickel? This is a nickel? Yeah. That's a nickel. Oh, it needs to be bigger than a nickel. At least a quarter. At least it needs to be as big as that one that that Dave's wearing. If you put a nickel and a quarter right next to each other, they look the same size. I've done it in my office when I was making this. 50¢ piece.

Yeah. I was think I was thinking If we're talking money Yeah. Let's go. We'll figure it out. Well, we wanna be able to read it and see it. We could

Anyway I don't think a 50¢ piece is obnoxious.

I don't either. I think Okay. There you go. One time expense. Make the decisions. Well, I I let's get some more information. Let's maybe make it a little bit bigger and see. Do you guys want him to pursue that? Like, is it something we would like to have to to do a little of of I think How many more of us? Proud of ourselves.

I'm not wearing that. I think that Sandy, why won't you wear it?

maybe maybe Well, this is specific to the council. Yeah. This is for us. This is for us to This is our own county. You know, just make it to where everyone can take one of the steps at Cache County on it. Yeah. How about land Is there anything historic that you can think of for the council?

Yeah. That's what this is.

No.

I liked it. Did you see this that we that Andrew designed? I did. I did see it.

Yeah. I don't like the Public Works one. That's fine on the side of a truck. I don't really wanna wear it. No. Do the seven stars represent the seven council pairs? They do. They do. This is this Andrew designed this. This is represents us. I like it. I really like it. It's nice. I do like it. I think it maybe a 50¢ piece. How many how many do you get for a 144 is? For the second, it'll be a dollar. That's smaller than a 50¢ piece. Are you 20? 20. It says quantity 20 for a $144.

Do you want And that's with the discount.

I'm locked.

Yeah. Maybe maybe maybe I'll save my gift card holder. Okay. Andrew. Dollar. Maybe not 50¢ musical dollar. Yeah. See if you can make it a little bit bigger and bring us back another price. And I I'll go look I'll take a really hard look at our budget because I think we could I think I think we could find miscellaneous

funds specifically because they could be used for anything, but I think we have money in miscellaneous funds that could be used for this that was budgeted for things like this.

How about new laptops before we get pinned?

I'm waiting for the brand prices to drop. K. Let's

I want a new laptop and I want Excel. You want Excel? Yes. I do not want Google Sheets anymore. Safe.

That'll cost you a lot. K. Let's You're getting 20 k. Let's okay.

What? Who

gets one? And that'll be 20 of them.

Who got 20 of them? Who gets You're you're ordering how many of of the Oh, of the future It'd be like for future. It it makes sense to have some on hand when someone else gets elected so that they don't we have to order one at a time. You know, they're more expensive to do it that way. So it would mostly just be for the seven of us and probably Andrew. Or if you wanted to join us, you could bear. No. No. No. There's only seven stars. I wouldn't want to. Well, you're the mountain, George. But you have to put seven stars and then a dot. A dot.

I think seven stars, I think you that's fine.

K. Once I'm done with the council, I'd pass mine on to the next person. So

And and Catherine brought up another good idea, like, even just a name tag. Just those name tags aren't very expensive, the ones that are are magnet. No.

Anyway I we can

Okay. You maybe jump on a discount that we get over

At the call Julie. So k. The earthquake scenario training, that's tomorrow night at six from six to eight. Last year, there were several of us there. They haven't Thursday. It's Thursday. Thursday night. Sorry. Thursday is not tomorrow. Last time we went, they have a specific seat lined up for each one of us. We have specific duties. They have a a, like, a thing that you wear. They're like, kill do they kill anybody else? No. No. But but if if an emergency happened, we should be prepared to go and know what we need to do. And it was really insightful. Submit, you know, with disasters, like, call it in, like, as if we had Yeah. Experienced a real disaster.

And mine was the the brisket I was cooking got burned. And they didn't respond as quick as I wanted them to.

Well and then they also good exercise. It was. And they we they showed us how to get on the computer and find different information like water and where safe where you can find a lot of things on those computers. There's a computer set up for our treasure. There's one for our like, there is a place for each of us to be for when something happens. And so anybody that can be there, that would be great. County council portraits next Tuesday night at 04:00. County council and executive. And executive. You have to join us on that one. It's the the picture that's in this room, we need to redo that. And so it has you and Joanne in it. So we will be doing that next Tuesday at 04:00 on the twenty first before our regular meeting.

We need an hour before our meeting.

Yeah. But well, by the time we take individual pictures and get a group shot shot I'll have to redo my hair once I get it. I know. I know. Mark, we'll give you some extra time. Okay. Which pin do I wear?

You can choose with that. You had the new one.

Wish we had the new ones. Okay. NIMS training for senior officials, that one's on April 25 in Logan. I Will, is that one is that really important for us to be there? Like, tell me the difference in what we're doing gonna do for you and then how this one, if you would. I don't think we could be there. I think it's during it's during UAC, isn't it? No. The twenty fifth is a Saturday. It's a Saturday before UAC. Convention. Oh, that's state convention. Oh, that's the state convention. There's no way you're gonna be there. Nobody's gonna be there. Sorry.

K. Oh, I I understand. And and absolutely, in your council guidebook, if you'll go through that, you'll understand a little bit more what NIMS is and why NIMS isn't

important even for the elected official. Okay. We'll we'll work on that. Yeah. I forgot about that. That is the day of the state convention. Okay. Legislative conference in UAC, twenty eighth through the thirtieth. I know Dave is not gonna be able to go. Is there anyone else that cannot be there? Are we all gonna try and be there? No. You we'll be there because I'm not driving down there by myself. Yeah. I'll be there. K. Alright. Anything else? Smithfield Health Days Parade. We've got parades coming up. I've this is how I feel about the parades. We should be wearing matching shirts, and we should have some music that plays, and we should have flags on our truck. And to just walk down there, it we're not very exciting, and I think we can do a better job if we're gonna take the trouble to be in these parades. So I'm gonna go to the logo shop and see what it would cost to have shirts, so we might have to buy them ourselves. But I would like to have a shirt that matches when we go on the parades. Does With the kids, we throw candy. So I know. I know. But I think we should look like a cohesive group, and I think it's important.

Carrie, you both have black and white dates, and that's an important parade of hers. Yeah. It is. I need black and white days.

Do you know why it's black and white days? Because of a cow. Yeah. Holsteins. I know. The Holsteins. When is that one? It's not on our list, is it? That's the 16?

The week after.

May 16. Is it Friday night?

Usually. Fifteenth. It's at 5PM.

Okay.

Alright. This is too expensive. I can't drive up there for that.

Alright. Does anyone have any other we've lost control. Does anyone have any other business before we adjourn? I have. Okay. Thank you, Joanne.

I've it's been called to my attention that in January 2022, the Cache County School District based shall base on the voting precincts. Anyway, the school district districts need to coincide with the voting precinct. Yes. And District 3, for example, has Nibbly 1234 oh, no. That's not the one. District 4 has North Logan 5 And 6, River Heights 1 And 2, and Providence 45, And 6. How come they're

everywhere? You know what? We Bryson and I have talked about this. They can't change it during an election year, but that is on their raid the clerk's radar, and it will be And they're opening up the two middle schools now. Continuous. Continuous. This yeah. Same with What does that mean? They they all touch each other. Yeah. Means it can't be broken up. They do touch each other. North Logan and River Heights,

they touch.

due to say no boundaries can be changed, like, for example, the census.

Oh, not until 2030?

Okay. And and you have to find some way to balance the Yeah. The numbers. You know, voters. I mean, it's What voting is wrong? It's it's never gonna be Uh-huh. The voting district? It's pretty and square as we want it to be.

Okay. K. Is that yours? Alright. Would someone make a motion to adjourn, please? Reports. Council member. Oh, does any sorry. Does anyone else reports on that. Yes. Let's do some council member

reports. Well, I also, I attended the cash visitors bureau thing. Uh-huh. And that's again tomorrow, I'll go through it. They did approve all the grants for all the different entities.

K. Nolan, do you have a report? No. Not really. I have nothing. K. No. No. Thank you.

If you ever have an opportunity to go with our developed services inspector back there, Brian Abbott.

I I get first bit. No. It he it's

it is really fun to watch him run a tape measure and look at things and ask him questions and just do it like it's just natural. Like and he's looking for things and just making a conversation and, you know, he'd he'd be a good thief if you're not careful. You know? He's just smooth. And it's really neat to watch. Very professional too. And he has an amazing rapport with the the people, you know, that are in the buildings and the people the site superintendents and things like that. I was really, really impressed. So

Joe, Brian.

If he invites you, you are you pick are you pick yeah. Who you invite?

He's calling me. He's calling me. He's calling me next. No. He's no. He's not. You both know that. K. Mark.

We've got OMP this Friday. K. Oh, and also Friday afternoon, I don't I will not leave the ice arena until I have a formal understanding of what the director's trying to tell Andrew and I about the

interlocal agreement there. I thought the next board meeting was June.

Right. But I'm just gonna go hang out till we talk soon. Till we talk to

k. Catherine and I met with the executive yester or Monday morning. That was yesterday. And Andrew and I typed up a summary of that, but I didn't save it properly in Google Docs. So I wanted you to have it before tonight, but he'll get that to you so you can see the things we talked about. And we decided okay. I'm talking. No. We we decided that we're say I was done. Okay.

K. I'm done.

Alright. We decided that we are going to meet every Monday morning at 08:30 with the executive. So the there's so much going on in the county. We want to make sure everyone's kept up to date. The Catherine and I usually do that together. If if any of you have something you would like addressed with the executive's office, please let us know. Or if you would like to join us, we can have one other council member with us. You would always be welcome. So please be aware that we are gonna try and keep that schedule as often as we can and that we would love to have input from the rest of you. And I will try and get out summaries to you so that you know what we're talking about. And that's that's my report. So Are you at those meetings all the time, Curt? Yes. Curt's Curt's there, and Andrew comes. And we've been divided, Dane, and at times, we've talked about things that have, legal ramifications. And so Where do you have it? I'm just in the, conference Room of the Executive's Office. K. Thank you. I'm ready for an a motion. Moved to January. Second. Moved in second. Those in favor, say aye. Aye. K. Say no one. No. Thank you, everybody. I really haven't. No. I'm just so grinding

commission. Bother you if I just show up with a service, doesn't it? That's fine. I go all the time, George. I go to all of them. Okay. More