Cache Open Space Advisory Committee (COSAC) – 12-1-2025

Okay. Committee members, you guys ready? Sure. Okay. Alright. Welcome, everyone, to our December 1 COSAC meeting. Has everyone had a chance to take a look at the agenda as well as the minutes? Okay.

I I looked over on my I, moved to the approved in that.

And the agenda? Any changes to the agenda, Angie? Okay. Alright. So we have a motion for approval of the agenda and the minutes for our November 3 meeting. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Okay. Regan seconds it. Any further discussion? All those in favor for approving the motion, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Thank you. And then, moving on to item number three, the UALT Champion Land Company application. Anything you wanna brief us on, Angie?

Notice that we provided those attributes map for. Again, these are three nonconcede with.

K. So in the I guess what's transpired between when we saw this previously and now is that

they've made a formal application. Is that right? Correct. K. Or it was just a pre app that we would

k. And so, presumably, if the applicant was here, we would potentially ask some questions, that sort of thing, but then move on to schedule a site visit. Is that right? Right. I'm not sure.

December is a tough winter site visit. Oh, yeah. Just with winter.

Agree. Well, with winter and with the holidays and everything.

I'm not sure if that's something that you want to get scheduling that I can coordinate with the applicants for December or

next June? I mean, if we were to try to do it in December, our our typical protocol would would say the fifteenth, to do a site visit. What do folks think about that?

What's a day like today? Find that if it's a snowstorm, then you're gonna have

to cancel it if you Should we other problem? Should we just have Angie reach out to the applicant and see if they wanna do a site visit on the fifteenth, if they're available? We could get that scheduled.

Yeah. Given the distance out there too, would you wanna do something earlier than 03:30, which is our typical with that three or 03:30 work?

It's pretty nice right now out there if it Yeah.

If it's a decent day. We could go up Be there at 03:30 like we did Yeah. The Christians. Christians.

They're on-site at 03:30. Got them. Yeah. Over an hour and a half to daylight. Yeah.

See if they wanna do that. Otherwise, it's gonna be, you know, the January, probably. This would be the next opportunity, and that would be weather dependent as well. Again, you may not know Angie. Have they

May maybe we make a call when there's a, like, a four or five day forecast just so we don't hold it on the agenda too long. Like Yeah. We could double check, you know, the

typically, you post the notice on the Friday before our meetings or something like that, Thursday or Friday. Yeah. If we call it Thursday or Friday, whether we're really Yeah. We could always not announce it. Like a placeholder just to say I I I think we should. I mean, I I think we should go ahead and get it on the calendar if it works for them and then pray that there's a big storm

because we need a lot of them.

Yep. In between. Yeah. Well, yeah. In between.

We'll take any of them we get right now. And I'm not sure how accessible your That's a good question too. The long forecast says there's a storm system, but that's way that's way after.

Okay. Yeah. Any I I know that when they came and presented to us initially, I think we raised some concerns. I mean, it's it's amazing farmland, but it is scattered parcels, and it is in an area that is unlikely to see any kind of development pressure, that sort of thing. They also don't have, you you know, any of the water resources that would really elevate the project from a wildlife habitat perspective, those kinds of things. So And and on the

on the map, it's it's kinda borderline. There's one piece that's nice farmland. The others are kinda borderline.

Meaning as far as whether they're prime or something else? Yeah. Mhmm.

Like the one is is yeah. Yeah. Kind of varied a little bit. The one the ones works pretty well in farming. The other two are a little bit mixed.

I think, you know, for the for prime farmland, basically, the deciding factor there is irrigation. I mean, also soil conditions, obviously, but it's whether or not you have irrigation. And this, if I'm not mistaken, you farmers would would know best, this is dry land acreage mostly. Right? And so dry land farming is, has its own, qualities and, and level of, agricultural integrity, I think. And it but it's not going to be reflected on a prime farmland map, what I would think. Okay. Anything anything else? K. Hearing nothing else, we'll leave it to Angie to reach out to the applicant and see if they would like. We'll we're happy to schedule something for Monday the fifteenth weather dependent. K. Item four, an update on the Vivian Christiansen application.

Great.

Wow. And, yeah, it does edge Elkhorn Ranch. That's interesting.

It's right up there.

Mhmm. But and then I think they were all lower, if I recall correctly, quite a bit, maybe in some cases. The what? The total scores for other applications that Yeah. Yeah. They were quite a bit lower. Right. By quite a bit. For forties to sixties, I think, if I remember correctly.

Yeah. And then I just broken down the totals for each of the areas that were scored and then the average scored and then the average

Yeah. Yeah. I designated on the Richmond Trail. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, that was for for me, the distinguishing aspect as far as public access goes, of the Christiansen project was, there's trails designated. They're generally along either canal or road. And so, they're not really the Christiansen's property, but they're immediately adjacent. So that's why I was comfortable giving it some points. Right? I did the I did the same. Public access. Basically,

that the public is going to get to enjoy

adjacent access Yeah. To it. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. But we also

with and that kind of I elevated just slightly because of that. Good.

Is that something they do already?

Yeah. Bird hunting? Yeah. Because he told me he said, yeah. Somebody was there hunting, and he said, yeah. Go over there, and they were able to get some up there. I talked to Zane. Yeah. Mhmm. They were gonna contact Paul Merrill. There is potential to have a a trail come around Christiansen property off the road there, and go back out to the river.

I I've got a appointment roughly scheduled with Paul Merrill when he gets back from New Zealand. Okay. And I was just gonna bring up because I think that that's a pretty important piece to connect. That would that provides us that connection extension from Harris's property down. Yes. If if you get Paul And when you when we went down there, that I looked over there, and I'm like, that's pretty special Yes.

Over there. So then you would have public access clear out along that river. Yeah. And it's it loops it really nice. Does

is there still a gap between Harris' and Paul Merrill's? Yes. One. Who is that?

The heirs of the Stockskablins. Okay. Stockskablins' daughter on the south side of the road. That's the only gap. Do you know what her name is? I can't. I I could find it, but I haven't got it today. Not a Johnson? It might be Johnson. Yeah. He he's a doctor here in town. I've talked to him on the phone. I think he was He's an anesthesiologist?

Or

an anesthesiologist.

Yeah. Okay. I they're they're around the just across the river from where I live. Through

to Cannonball Road, basically to Cannonball Road, basically. I talked to Zane too. At least the city has a right of way up there to access into that clear Creek spring, which comes off of Cannonball Road. I don't know how that might connect, but but anyway.

What's the what's the long dream of that trail? Where would it go? All the way to Lewiston something. Right?

I don't wanna think about that. But that Paul is a big key to this deal because he retained the property.

I I think he's got some ability to benefit from tax advantage as well. So that's that might play well into his overall strategy. Yeah. That river corridor is pretty pretty special Yeah.

Too. Good wildlife habitat down there. I could get that phone number and get it to you on the Johnson doctor. There is room there that if it comes around there. Anyway, it's just you got to you gotta go across Presto's property there a little bit. Pepper not Presto, Pepperidge. Pepperidge's got a piece of ground that goes down to the river. You get Merrill's in there and you get Johnson's, now you got a heck of a chunk of ground.

Well, and whether it whether it's just a I mean, that could be anything from an actual land conservation easement or a trail

Yeah. A trail corridor. Trail corridor. Yeah. That'd be from that state highway

to

well, to the point of all of Channelborough.

Did did we were you able to highlight that past Harris's

on the river? I don't know.

Over here or not. Let's see what which is you click on that one right there? Which one? The one you're on. The the property. Oh, it it's not nothing's coming up on it. Hard nuts. Let's see if we can find out the address for Hard Knucks. That's Pepperidge. That would be interesting if Pepperidge would I I

It doesn't they don't they don't farm right down to it. It's or two Right. Where it comes in there. Yeah.

That would be some goodwill for Pepperidge Yeah. To grant access along that there. So it's hard knocks whoever that is. I'd know by the depending on the address that goes with it. Yeah. Yeah. They're across from me. Okay. I don't know them personally. My my kids do.

I've talked to him on the phone about water rights a little bit. Okay.

Try to initiate something.

That'd be fantastic.

See if we can That would just I don't he might he might be willing to put it in a concert. He's not too.

So there's not a relationship between Merrill's and him and them. So they're just leasing farmland right now. Yeah.

Johnson's are. Johnson's are. The Gibbons brothers run a there's a Gibbon on the property.

Okay. Is that is that Paul's family? You mean The Gibbons? Say Gibbons' brother? No. It's

Daryl's family and Mike

was works with the farm bureau. Yeah.

Well, that's only been transferred for about five years. It was before it was dog skating.

So how far does it need to go along the Hard Knucks there? Pardon me? It's just

along.

Hard Nux gets all the way to Harris's. Just about.

Pepperidge is, I would guess,

seven, eight, a 100 feet wide. We're only gonna be on that side of the water. Right? Yeah. Yes. So does Hardnecks get to oh, no. Pepperidge Farm is right there. Pepperidge is all on the east side of it. Okay. It's the same property. So if you get from there, you get all the way to the road that you that you go down to pass the ball fields. Right? Yeah. And then the next piece would be Merrill's. Yeah. Paul and Merrill on his side. And Merrill's gets you all the way to the next road.

Well, there's a little strip up on the north there that Kirk High Creek comes in. We had to work on that. Cannibal Road. There's Cannibal Road. Ted Johnson owns some property in there.

And who's who and there's a bunch of unknown right there. What's that? I don't

does it show Ted on there?

Flood plain.

Yeah. Personal.

I don't. And here I talked to Zane, he said Johnson's would be would get you to the Campbell Road. And

who are the who would they? Do you think they'd have any interest? Yeah.

But on that river bottom.

Because we they don't need to put the whole thing in conservation easement. They could just Do a trail. Do a trail. Yeah. What do you think, Dennis? That gives you, what, four or five miles of trail. Yeah. And

That gives you about four or five miles of trail. Pretty close.

Four or five? Yeah.

Get a fun trail.

So You got you got a little roads and right aways on a in the middle and on each end Yep. To get access.

Yep. It would be a logical segment to develop for sure. Parking area. Get you from one road to the next.

You gotta get them all there this way. You get them to the Logan River Corridor, and it's too late in most of it. It's true.

Okay. So back to the Vivian Christiansen application. Angie shared with us the the scoring. Was there anything else you wanted to report on for Christiansen?

No. Okay.

Okay. And then so I think where we're at on Christiansen is the next step would be to vote to recommend to the county council approval phase one approval. Does that sound right? Does anybody have any hesitation or questions? Anything like that?

I was just trying to find the amount that they were requesting. It's

in a previous meeting minutes or meeting materials. The a month ago. So they've already They submitted and handed out to us that information on on all of these applications.

Vivian Christiansen and the champion of the The half 1,000,000 has already been approved according to this. Right? State of Utah. Yes. You're 575,000 or something like that.

On what?

On the On the Christmas. 05/25. 05/25? That's it's all easy to come by.

Yeah. That that's where I I scored it higher in the distribution factors. Just, you know, it's not often we get a project that already has Leroy McAllister. And if you got Leroy McAllister, I mean, for us not to Yeah. It'd be hard not to give us some points for that, you know. Right.

I think this is the first one in

a Well

Which name have? Elkhorn Elkhorn did get Leray McAllister. It's the first one that's come to us with that. Yeah. But we but we gave it, and then it got it, and then Harris got it as well. Right?

Yeah. I think so. Okay.

So it's that's pretty impressive to but I I think we've got enough information to pass this to the council. And I know, is it January that the NACS is due? NRCS. NRCS is due? I was gonna say February, but I'm not certain about that. Maybe it's due and they make a decision in February. I don't know. But if if they went with the recommendation and they've got two sources of funding, NRCS would probably

look at that. I think it would look repeatedly.

Yeah. Yeah. I think we're to the council vote. I mean, recommend it

Yeah. So the only thing we need to recommend to the council is is the number numbers to go with it, and I can't remember what they asked for.

I don't think we have to, but, yeah, it'd be nice if we did have that information.

But how much do you Because it's just

technically, they they they wouldn't be asked telling us how much they want till round two. Yeah.

Is when we typically get that back, but we do have that information. And if I remember, they also that it would would depend on if they got other funding. If they didn't get the NRCS money, they would be asking us for more. Mhmm. So we may not even know how much they need. Yeah. So the the round two approval would be approval for

the actual dollar amount. Per percentage. Yeah. Because I think we do that last time. Yeah. Like 25% is done. 25%

and up to whatever that that Yeah. We put we put both of that. So I would move that we recommend this to the council to council to move to to phase two of the application process.

Seconded. Okay. So we have a motion and a second to recommend approval of the UALT Vivian Christiansen LLC funding application, approval of round one. Any further discussion? Committee, staff, otherwise? K. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. That's unanimous then unanimous recommendation to the council. And I think, as soon as you wanna get them on the list, let us know. I'm happy to come and anyone is welcome to come to their meeting and Calendar meeting. Yeah. Give a recommendation.

So it'll probably be either January meeting because their last two regularly scheduled for this year or tomorrow and then next week. Yep.

Okay.

I I wish they were here just to know what what the NRCS situation is. Yeah.

And I also work with Debbie so I can I do? Okay.

I do remember asking that a month ago, and they at at that time, they they had said, I thought we should hear in February or maybe that was the when the application is due.

Is NRCS open for business now on this stuff? Supposedly. Because I've been in contact with the Poisons Plant Lab and through the others. So we just I my next meeting that

the director will be at will

be a couple of weeks. Okay.

Great.

Okay. Angie, you can let us know about Yeah. It looks like the first available for me is January 13 meeting. K.

Okay.

Let's see. Item number five is developing conservation funding strategy for small parcels. I don't know if we have any updates on that effort or if we should maybe use this time to talk about the presentation to the county council, Eric Cave.

I I just got from Debbie that the deadline is mid January. K. So I don't know. I think they

were hoping they would hear in February or something like that. Hear back from NRCS.

So I would suggest we try to get on not not tomorrow's, but the next Tuesday's agenda. I don't think it'll take much of their time.

It wouldn't if it's not too late, I guess.

Yeah. They would like to have the staff report and the agenda item request a week before, I can cobble something together, probably for next Tuesday. Probably would be the full blown staff report that we've got.

I I think what like, this type I I think what like, this type of thing, like, what you have here and our score. Yeah. What you've basically done already.

I've been searching in the drive, and there's been, like, well, I've paged that report since, like, this stuff. If you're not looking for that, then I can

I I think, you know, just to help with moving it along quicker, you know, we're not we we have the basic information? It's just not in a report format. So I feel like you've provided us with all the pieces. Does anybody else have any concerns that way? Yeah. We can have the staff report for round two. Okay. How about that?

Yeah. I'll check with

Andrew who's their policy analyst to see if Okay. Next week. Because I think if I am if I feel what Eric's getting at is that probably in January, we'll wanna do round two recommendation

approval process. So And and then they submit it Yeah. And it says, we've got this money, this money. Yeah. And I I really think that in a tighter NRCS environment that we could have Yeah. Like for us, I mean It'll suit the Liberty and McAllister thing's huge.

It'll strengthen the application. If I remember correctly, I wanna I Angie, are you able to pull up the the meeting package for that November 3? I think it's November. I found the slide deck for October. Possibly that's it then. Oh, okay.

Debbie said she didn't get a notice on on the agenda. I don't know how they hopefully, they're following the agendas.

Okay. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of instead of the Vivian Christiansen one. It's not a it's not a big deal right now. Obviously, we can okay.

I guess, see what you can do, Angie. Eric,

Eric, you wanna talk about, the council presentation you made?

Yeah. I gave it gave it simplified it down quite a bit, so it's just one map. And then I found that I had done another map. It was would have been much better, but anyway, it it worked. It was quick. I think it was pretty primed, and they voted unanimously in favor, even though I think there was a couple

that kind of went into it. And this is in regards to sending out the mailer? Sending out the mailer. So they To the scenic gateway areas. Or sending out the mailer. So

I I put a little note that probably for the next meeting, we just kind of I'll have all the all the mailing addresses, and maybe we just, like, put the final stamp on the on the mail form mail letter. Yeah. And then we go ahead and I think January's a really good month to get that out. This month of right? We weren't pushing it for December at all. We didn't want it to go into the trash with people's Yeah. Focus being elsewhere. But January seems to be a little bit slower. They put in their Christmas letters.

Sorry.

They put it up in the wall. Yeah.

So that works. And we we got approval for, what was it, $350,

something like that? Yeah. For the Mellon. And Keegan kinda made the point that we've kind of set this up now for other outreach that we wanna do. That he he thinks this was kind of a a a moment for just pushing pushing outreach and making sure people know. Great. They brought up, like, what about waterways and wildlife? And I said, you know, we we have no we would be equally interested in in finding prime properties to do the same thing with, but we have to start somewhere. Chris after the meeting mentioned me. A bunch of these score really, really well on waterways and wildlife as well. Some more than others, but there's definitely some there's definitely some corridors that we could look at as a group. If we see a slower meeting at some point, that would be just kind of maybe an initial time to look at some of those. Maybe invite someone in from DNR or something like that to say, okay, what are the what are kind of the prime migration routes and stuff that that type of thing that tend

I think what would be a pretty straightforward approach with the tools that we already have is we could pull up some of those sensitive lands layers, like, you know, flood plains, wetlands, t and e species habitat because there are areas. They generally are not on the valley floor. They're typically more up in the mountainous areas where we already have at least some wildlife information, and we can use those to also help identify parcels.

State people have that information.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll probably add to that. Something we ought to look at in that, and this is something that Reagan brought up, is providing because we have a lot of protected waterways, but there's not access to those. Right. And so if we also maybe access points to some of the waterways to give people more of an ability to enjoy those.

What about because you're getting back into upland hunting again, and there's a lot of walk in access points that don't show up on the

website to actually find those. So we probably don't even know about. Yep.

I got into one in Paradise area, though. I was

Yeah. It's creating those access into into the wildlife areas. Yeah.

Okay. Anything else on item number five? Sounds like maybe we'll use our first January meeting to

solidify the mailing and everything like that. The small parcel, I I do think we just need to I I mean, maybe I could let's leave that on, and I'll make a proposal next next time for that. Okay.

Is there other funding issues on smart parcels?

We do, but I think that we we need to be able to make a recommendation of dollar amount anyway. Okay. For example, on that 20 acres out there in on the pivot, this adjoining another 20 acres. So there's 40 acres Yeah. Fronting the highway. K. I just think we need to be able to

make a

like, just put a dollar amount out there that we'd that we'd recommend that we

well, you probably can the county could probably go up more in my mind but the federal government,

they're not gonna do it. They're gonna say forget it. Yeah.

Yeah. So I I just think we ought to be willing to do something. That's Yeah. I mean, that's a that's a thought. I mean, the approach maybe is for projects under $50,000 or something like that. Right?

You're not spending a boatload of money. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. And in my mind, it was like, well, I at least went off from the 25 k, they can put the rest into into well, I mean, sorry, the 25% Yeah. That we've been doing on other projects. I'd like to at least do that. In my mind, that's kind of what we do, and then at least the land owner has a choice at that point. And Chris brought up, well, maybe I mean, because there isn't other participation, we go up. You're just kinda saying that we ought to be able to Well, if the county goes up to 50%, we're still not talking many dollars.

And the landowner comes in at 50%, it's a done deal. If you're willing, how strong do they want it?

Right. They would have they would be giving up more. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. That would be the expectation, I think. Yeah. But at least there's a choice and more of a chance that we Yeah. That we We just don't want to eliminate them all. Right. It's because of size.

Especially in various on this high on the highway, there's a couple that if a big building's there, that just wipes out your entire view of

The Hiram piece is you I mean, I've I've driven that a few times this last couple of weeks. The one that we've kind of identified is you you look out at the wells the farms and the wells fills, even if that even if the setback was fully developed, you would still have a nice view if you kept that Front part. Front part.

But you've got some of that, like, the Ashcroft's that came in last time, for example. Well, those people are committed to to to leave that in open space in their family history. Well, we can make that we can help you, but they're gonna struggle to get NRCS stuff. I really think they'll struggle. You know, you take, like, the Christians as for example. I mean, that's a open

space everywhere.

So correct me if I'm wrong. If somebody wants to put a Yeah. They don't need all this That's true. Hoops for money. That's true. You get up in Montana, and those billionaires that own those big pieces, their families are set for generations. They say, I want it to look like this forever. Sign it up. Yeah. And just do it. Yeah. They do it.

And then then there's a value to the that conservation easement. I mean, it's not a lot. Right? Because the development's not a lot, development's not a lot. But they get a tax write off on there. Yeah.

They can write it right across on, like, 30%.

Yeah.

When you're into the $2,030,000,000 dollar, that's a pretty good chunk of change. Yep. But some of these smaller parcels, people are the mindset that I got 20 acres sitting in North Logan or in the Hyde Park area, and the county comes in and says we'll give you 50% of the value. They if they want it, they better take it because it's going down the road. To get to the next generation, it ain't gonna happen. Happen.

Yeah. One other piece to consider that might be a targeted piece is the Doctor Pierce at Barn? Barn.

Okay.

I believe that's owned by Chris. It's in the form of the 12 In The

Valley. The one that was in Newcord, in on Newcord. Ikon. Ikon. Oh.

Watterson? No. Because it's the other side of it. You know what I'm talking about? They must have bought it lately. Yeah. I think they bought it. I think it was a fam it was a family no. It's been there for a couple years, but it's almost like Stevenson. Stevenson. Stevenson. Stevenson. Yeah. Yeah. But that might be, that might be in I I I don't know. I, you know, what do we value? Is that one of those iconic if you go out to the barn in Park City is in a conservation easement, a white barn. Yep.

The one that's on Yellowstone.

And and I guess yeah. I I guess it also came into my mind too because I was in a house, and it was painted up on their wall, this that barn too. Yeah. There it is. Is it is it on my right? Gary Stevenson.

Yep. How big is a parcel?

12 acres.

You bought it for a reason.

Yeah. It it certainly is iconic, and everybody would appreciate, you know, that being protected, I'm sure. Okay. Anything else on five? I think we'll move on to item six, which is our our meeting dates for next year. Angie, the last page in your packet is a list of the meetings. Anybody have any Labor Day item. But, otherwise, anybody see any problems with any of those? Any preferences for August 31 versus September 14?

You're you're asking for the world, you guys. That's not I might be dead. What

don't we know?

Maybe sep maybe due the September 14. I think September is better than September right in behind Labor Day. Day. Yeah. My world. Hence, who's gonna take care of my lawn business.

Let's recommend the September 14 one then. July 4,

it's the it's the What date of the week? That looks safe. That's on the sixth

after July. So the fourth's on the Saturday? Yeah. Mhmm. Well, that's pretty well over then.

Some companies

may either give the third or the sixth on that. I don't know. Yeah. That's true. Typically, the third. Yeah. Yeah. Your cowboys will be celebrating for a week. So

This is the big two fifty.

Yeah. I still think that sixth is okay, but maybe we're okay. K. Should we have a motion to approve the meeting schedule for 2026?

I'll make the motion. Is there a second? September 14 designated as the day, not Labor Day.

Is there a second?

Do You show up on Labor Day? I don't. What I thought.

Brent, Kendra, somebody wanna make a second? I'll second. Thank you, Kendra. We have a motion and second to approve the 2026 regular meeting dates with the September meeting being on September 14. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? K. Comments or other business? Do we we probably need to elect chair and vice chair, if I'm not mistaken.

K. So we make sure that you're all reappointed.

Oh, that's a good idea. Okay.

Great. Might fire us all. K.

They might. They have that authority.

Yeah. Anybody have anything else then? It's the weight scale that keeps us here.

Okay. By the way, just for information, because I know we're pretty much closed, they've asked Christensen Christian this is what Debbie said. The Christensen's have asked for 725,000, which is 15% of the 15% of the easement value. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

What did Elkhorn Ranch get?

1 something. Yeah. Per million. Over a million. Yeah. But that was it was also 25%

or maybe more. Yeah. Part of that's because of the appraisal process. 25%? Is that what they asked for?

It was at least that. Any trails update, Landon? Great. That sounds fantastic. So that would take

us that take us from Logan Canyon to Smithfield?

That's a big win. That's a go. Sure. Still not hard to do. We're moving. That's been a

What what makes that sad is that we still have that EK gap, otherwise we'd be blacksmiths. We could clean up province to blacksmith a little bit, though. That's a little crazy through there on the truck. Particularly getting out to the highway and stuff.

Any other questions for Landis? K.

So I'm Appreciate appreciate that update. We've got but they're gonna ask for 725,000 Christians, and they got 525,000 from the Land Trust or whatever.

Leeray. Leeray McAllister. 1.24.

Is 25%. Yep.

So if the appraisal come in at just a minute. Just doing some math.

They were expecting the appraisal is, like, right around 4,200,000.0, I thought. So they're probably looking for 4.2 ish? Something like that.

They're probably looking for NRCS for 50%.

I think the appraisal more than that. It might be. They go 15,000 an acre straight through. Got a lot a ton of water. One, two, three times three thirty four. 5,000,000.

5,000,000 altogether. Oh,

if they get NRCS for two and a half, then their their percentage, they would have to carry about.

Looks like our next regularly scheduled meeting will be January 5. And and then the NGO will let us know about either getting on the county's the council's agenda and or a site visit for Champion.

Just

To the council? I'm happy to.

I just need to know who you are. Yeah. That's great.

You got to know your

your familiar face. Yep. And everybody's welcome.

January 5, Beaver Lodge.

Okay.

Anything else, committee members? Okay. Without objection, we'll stand