Cache Open Space Advisory Committee Meeting - 5 January 2026

Anybody see anything in the minutes of concern? Requires a change. And I took a look. I didn't see anything. And if that's the case, without objection, we will adopt the agenda and the minutes from the last two meetings. Okay. We have a update on the UALT application for Champion Land Company.

Yes. So we just had five responses to the scoring sheet for this concrete. I thought Brian was gonna be here from the Land Trust. I still see him.

I have three things that come to mind as a learning opportunity or developing we kinda know that we're starting from. There's all these points we're learning from. One is something you brought up. Chris, we're not putting cost into this Mhmm. In this first round. And and so we we have this score of 40, but it may be hugely low in cost, like, really low. And somehow we're not you know, we we're not factoring that that in. Maybe that makes it so that this would be something that might be interesting. By the way, I did not get my score and we had a death in the family and it's kinda interrupted things. But I don't know that I would have been wildly off of somewhere where we're at. But what comes to mind is, like, how do we address the fact that, hey, this is lower scoring, but it's extremely low low cost. Then the other thing that comes to mind as well is I think if we're looking at 20,000,000 that we're responsible for 20,000,000 and seeing that that's spent the best possible way or is it's been brought up that we're we would possibly be running the the green belt money recovery money through through this. And if that's the case, then it may be more like 40,000,000 over the course of a twenty year period. Right? Yeah. So if it's 40,000,000, that kinda changes the game. And if this happens to be, I don't know, a 150 or $200,000, does this maybe become a little more interesting? I don't know. Yeah. And if that's the case, it's going backwards to some of the properties we may have seen previously with that with that thought and saying, okay, how does it kinda rank with all of those? But I hate, I would certainly hate to get to the point where we have a great property, exiting the, the Sardine Canyon or something that comes and it's a more expensive opportunity and we don't have the money. But if if it includes the Green Belt money, then maybe we need to start looking at it a little bit differently. Hope, as far as everything we look at. So Yeah.

I kinda think our our existing framework, if you will, we haven't established as a committee anyway, like, a minimum score that you have to have for us to approve anything. And so we've been looking at each project individually based on its own merits. And I think you're right. There was maybe some hesitation initially with lower scoring applications when we didn't know what was gonna be coming in. And, we've got another year plus under our belt since then, maybe. And and like you say, maybe there's a a reflection on what's, you know some of these projects that score score lower may still have important value. And certainly, if they're a good bargain, then why not? I saw that in the comments on the on the revised

spreadsheet. So buy. Yeah.

Yeah. Mhmm.

Oh, I did. Yeah. I didn't know. I might have changed my score a little bit on Yeah. On access on that. Yeah. But that would need to be built into the easement though, not year to year. Yeah. But yeah. My understanding is on dollars. I thought the same thing. I've, you know, maybe a lower score than than Elkhorn or something on on all those categories. We're not really addressing dollars here that comes in phase two because we don't we're kinda guessing at the dollars. We don't know. Like But but we were we were told a rough number at one point. Yeah. Yeah. That I think Mark's here now, and maybe we

can chat about that a little bit. Yeah. And and

somehow, maybe it needs to kinda be in that first It's in the back of our minds. I know. I I think as an advisory committee, we give the council benefit of our advice. I don't know that we would hold this up or we even have that authority. I think it goes with the score. They look at dollars and then they come to phase two is when you get into the the assessment and all of that.

So I But we haven't passed anything to the council for consideration unless we make a recommendation for it. Yeah.

Would we pass it on and say we don't recommend it, but here's your your decision? I don't know. I don't remember our role on that. Good question.

My my my inclination would be more of a recommend I mean, we we can certainly find out more information, but Mhmm. To proceed to that next step to see to get the answers to those kinds of questions. And then, you know, that's another opportunity to a decision point for the committee to move it forward to the council or not Yeah. As far as the recommendation goes. So Decision for the

landowner too, because it's quite a bit more work. More work, more investment. Yeah. I mean, if a score of 40, if it costs the county $20,000 or something, it changes the the equation. And we don't know that yet.

Exactly.

We do know there was a decline from Leeray McCallister, but Leeray McCallister is not that big of a fund anyway.

Right? Mhmm.

And it also could be it it would be conditional on NRCS as being there anyway Mhmm. For the landowner to make be worth it to the landowner. Yeah.

Sorry. I said Mark and then Brian.

Brian. Right? No. I'm not even here, man.

Can can you come up and tell us is is there anything known at this time as far as how much funding you might be seeking from COSAC? It's not in a you know, you don't we're not gonna hold you to it necessarily. Thousand. Okay.

What percentage is that? Do you know?

Well, the value is estimated at 1.6. So you guys can Okay. Who can do the math quick?

That's right. Yeah. 12 and a half percent? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I look at the total that we've $8.26 an acre, and it it goes again to is is there that green belt money? The most interesting part to me, these are a little bit kinda out there, but it also overlooks the valley where, you know, you do see it is a a that's where you're talking the vista. It is a little bit of a vista for some people up there, and if someone threw, like, five houses up there, that would change the environment up there quite a bit.

I I also feel like these are likely to be a catalyst for other landowners in the area to be interested in the program, which is gonna make, you know, ultimately, this, perhaps, initial investment more valuable over time if if there's more of a consolidated land area. The this one of the unique aspects of this is it begins to capture that dry land farming environment that we have in Cache County, and it's it's limited, but it's excellent. So an important agricultural resource for that component. A lot of acres out there. Yeah. A lot of acres. Yeah.

Just some thoughts. And and is it fair to do this, go forward here, although there is a land conservancy placing an NRCS application that's very different than but I think about a couple of the early ones that came in where we did the one along the along the highway, but we didn't do the other one. Cooper. Cooper. Mhmm. But would we would it only be fair to go back to Cooper and say, well, well, let's look at this. What what but he didn't have a a number either. Yeah. So And in that case,

am I right? We didn't I don't think we turned it down. We Tabled. Just tabled it. Yeah. Yeah.

So we left it open to circle back to that if I expect the landowner came back and really wanted to pursue it, you know, in spite of maybe a low score. We Yeah. Look at it. Maybe they would kick in the percentage, dollars would change or something. He came a few times. Right? Yeah. And we just weren't going anywhere with it. Yeah.

Well, I I think we did recommend approval for For the other. The highway area, but then we also didn't get any follow-up from them. That. So Yeah. But anyway, we can we can take on that job or that responsibility

and circle back to them for sure. And that would go to you know, you talked about a spreadsheet so we could see a picture of everybody who applied Yes. And what the score was and just so we can kind of be like, oh, this is this is where this fits in. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

On that, I think we're not we got a total different category there than what some of this other stuff we're looking at. It's agriculture. It's out there. And if you get some easements out in that area, you probably probably get more. Yeah. And but it's never gonna rate like some of these others we booked at because of the just don't get the population going past it, the roads, whatever. Yeah. It's total different.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's also 200,000.

Yeah. And that's why the score reflects that. Yeah.

Yeah. What anything anything new you wanna share with us? Sorry, Justin. Yeah. But

if we lose the current agricultural irrigated land, then what's left is your is your triathlon property. Right? Yep. So I mean that I I mean, I here's some other values for you. We we will submit in March back to Leray McCallister for for a 200,000 also award for The land owner is going to donate back 447,000 of that value.

25%, sounds like ish. Yeah. More than anybody else so far, I think. Higher percentage. Yeah. Higher percentage, I should say.

Yeah. That shows some interest to go ahead. Yeah.

And and that could all be explained to to the council is, like, there's there is an NRCS application. It's the value it's the cost of this that makes it interesting to us if we didn't wanna make that recommendation.

Cost per acre. And

I don't know. Not to put any pressure on you, but, right, if you did come forward, when we do apply, we can say we have COSDAQ and offer this amount to NRCS and Leeray, which will then probably entice them tomorrow. Yeah. Put some money towards it because there's already been some money earmarked for it. No pressure, but it's just

we can see I understand. Yep.

Brian, just because you're there, I've heard was it Debbie told me that NRCS budget is quite low this coming year?

I I to be honest, I haven't actually heard the the actual numbers. Gabe, do you know what it is?

4,000,000 for the statewide? Yeah.

So that was that was the last I heard. Now that I will the right way, that's been changing

weekly. Yeah. But 4,000,000 is not huge for No. No. No. That's for the whole

state? Yes. Isn't Metell's It's got an additional, like, 1,000,000. That's what I heard. Leeway has been a a 1,000,000. I don't think I don't think that's gonna change.

You said additional?

The 4,000,000 is the additional? Or No. So the 4 the 4,000,000 is kind of their standard. Like, that's what their standard allocation is. And then sometimes they can pursue additional funding beyond that 4,000,000. But as far as I know, it was gonna be about the same funding level as it was last year.

I could be wrong, and that that can change. No. I don't have a new farm bill, so they're gonna run off of last year.

Yeah. And way I understood when we were working with them last year was that the more application interest, then they can go back and request more. And so if the application interest is down, then they're just gonna go with what they've been averaging. If the application interest has increased, then it could ask for increased funds.

It it would be nice to get as many Cache County projects. Yeah. But we've done pretty good. So we're gonna keep that rolling. That's right.

Other questions for for Brian? Any any other new news you wanna share with us? Not not that there is. There's no requirement, but new on

on this, but I think maybe I don't know. I apologize that I was tardy. Did you already bring the fraud thing forward with with the Christiansen?

We were just discussing it informally before the meeting or whatever, and so we just That's the newest thing. Yeah. I I've got it just to mention in other business. So we'll talk about it again in the later in the agenda. Okay. That's all I need. And you're still waiting for on champion, work from NRCS application. Right? K. Great. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks. Any other questions or comments? I mean, I'd I'd be inclined to support recommending approval for first round to the council on this one. And

We could do a 100 of these. Yeah. Because I mean, that's a way of looking at it. Yeah.

11%. What? Yeah. 1%. Yeah. I I marked it down a little bit on agriculture just because they're separate parcels, and it's dry land, and to profitably farm dry land in the future, since we're all built up all around there, you got these parcels. You know, who's gonna take a combine in there? That kind of a thing. So It's gonna have to combine

no pun. It's gonna have to combine with some other farms or something like that. On that. But Yeah. You you got Justin in the end. Yeah.

Yeah. You do. And but he's also got relatives in the same area. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. His brother's also

I'm I'm fine with sending it forward. I we could even send it without a recommendation if we wanted to. Just here's the information. The scoring is our recommendation, but you've got to factored in with cost. It's incomplete by itself. However we want to do it.

I I I too would favor if you're talking about it with the caveat and us coming up with a way to also go with that going forward, how how we look at those things. Just so we we happen to know a fact that we haven't asked someone in the past or they haven't had. That's why we're able to go forward with it. How would we look at that in the future? Yeah.

Any suggestions, Keegan? I would say include a recommendation if you can. An extension is a no vote, essentially. So Yeah. Keep that in mind as you bring it forward.

We even k. We even show dollars per acre relatively. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

that

would be my advice. K.

Thank you.

Is there a mechanism where we as a committee would vote on whether or not to recommend it before we would or just have a quorum of support for that before we recommend or choose not to recommend to the the council? What are you what are you asking? Well, I you you know, if we decide as a committee to recommend, is that a a voting thing? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm asking.

Yeah. It'd be important. That would go with it.

And that's what we've done in the past. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.

So in this case, I think we'd just be recommending round one approval, and, I think we can we can make the pitch to the council or provide them with all the information why we recommended approval of this round at the state.

The scores would go with that. I would suggest. Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. Yeah. At least the the last

applications that we've taken to the council, they get the full report and breakdown of scoring and everything like that Mhmm. For round one. So

I I think we'd also put to the council the thought process. Like, you guys can discuss the same thing as us as if there's a low scoring project is out of interest

at the dollar value. Yeah. Yeah. And your your vote doesn't have to be unanimous. Yeah. Some of you don't agree that it should be recommended.

Yeah. Okay.

I move that we approve this for Recommend approval. Recommend approval for round one.

To the county council. To the county council.

I second it.

Okay. So we have a motion to recommend approval of the Champion Land Company LLC application for first round approval. And is there any more discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. So it sounds like it was unanimous. So we'll get that information together. And who wanna follow-up with us on a meeting date or an agenda when it would be to the council, or do you know that already?

Okay. Yeah. Probably the second meeting is January, which is the twenty seventh, I think. Okay. Or the first meeting in February. Okay. Either one, just let me know and I'll plan to be there.

Okay. Anything else on that

agenda item? On the Greenbelt. K. How's that money come back?

That's through the state of Utah, Cache County. Comes through Cache County. Right? Yeah. I think so. Casey Snyder would probably be the best person.

Well, it would be added into the $20,000,000

bond.

Well, that's the part that hasn't been determined yet. Oh, okay.

Keaton, could you find that out for us? Yes. Yeah. I'm not sure who mentioned it, but someone's like

Yeah. We we may not be involved. Following that into the same fund as COSDAQ and having COSDAQ be the pricing in the body, but that's not official.

Okay. But but it is something that needs to be worked out. Right?

And because someone has to manage it and make that determination.

By default, it goes to the council. Sure.

Each county gets so much. Yeah. Bring us back a number manually. Maybe that varies. So how much does that

It varies and

is the this would be the first year that that would happen? As far as I understand, yeah. Okay. So this would be, you know, if someone sells a property that 26.

Okay. 26. K.

K.

It does make a difference.

Yep. It's good news. It's great news.

As far as the administration

thereof is And and then there's the question of, like, how long does it you have to spend that? We you know, do we heard the bond gets spent first because there is a timeline on that. Can the other accumulate in the meantime?

Yep. K. Anything else on that item?

Do do we have a number of of money that's left?

That could be in the spreadsheet.

Yeah. That was the end of budget that we just

You have a rough, back of the envelope calculation? I don't.

Matt Fung could tell you that right now.

As far as what has been approved? Yeah. Yeah. I can look at my email and see what's Smithfield starting It's around 8,000,000

altogether. That's been spent. That sounds right. Are you out of the 20? Somewhere in there. Okay. Yeah. Alright.

I'll get to work on that spreadsheet. Okay. Our next item agenda item is the outreach letter. And so Angie sent out sort of the the most recent iteration of that. I don't know if folks had a chance to take a look at it. But, Eric, you wanna lead this discussion? Yeah. I

I I think we spent a lot of time on the letter. The question is more, does anyone need to change before that happens? There is a map that I did, if you recall, that kind of shows the areas that I think would be helpful to go with it in terms of also being a little bit eye catching in terms and it just talks about the gateway. I have a 150 the when I dedupe the list, there was a few landowners actually in each of the gateways that overlapped. That came to right around a 150. So question a little bit to Angie is can we can we run that through your staff, the 150 letters? Or

Yeah. We can do that. I'm just the only pickup I have in this case because I don't wanna move it.

Oh, the mail merge. I could do the mail merge. Yeah. The the it says use the property owner's name is that would end up being a little funky because there's, like, it's not normal names. It's not like John or something. Or or something something something something trust type of a deal. But it's probably gonna be a little more catching to the eye when they see that. It's not just a form letter even then. And then we'd have the the map with it. So it's just two two piece of paper pulled up coming from the county. I think from the counties, the big deal as far as getting them to open up the letter and looking at that. But that that's the I can get I could do the the mail merge completely. Yeah. I don't know if I have your math removed either. So I I don't I don't think I passed it. So if did you send this to us? Is this in a what form is this?

It's in the packet in the PDF, but I can send it to Google. Yeah. If I had a

well, if I had it even if I had that, I could change it to a word doc because I'll probably do a word doc mail merge. Okay. Yeah. I'll leave that. And then anyone see anything wrong with just pushing it all the way through right now? I think January's a great month to get it out there. Yeah.

Yeah. I I think everybody's anxious to get it rolling. And and what I would ask is just, you know, let us know if if you need our help, you know, just filling envelopes and licking stamps or whatever the case may be. However, you know, logistics of it, I guess. I think we're interested in helping. Have a pizza party and Sure. Exactly.

We do have a couple machines that can help. I I was gonna say, sometimes you have something that the rest of the story Sometimes we need a moment of zen just before Yeah. And and

and then I I think if if you as we get response back, if if you see, like, there's a group of if there's a you know, we have in here the COSAC meeting, if we can make part of that meeting to answer, like, that we go over that. We invite Gabe and we invite Brian. By the way, it represents 36 thou the 150 names represent 36,000 acres. I'm sure, you know, we're we're not it's it's not gonna be that with the what you have to do go through for a land trust, but the possibility of finding someone in that mix is probably pretty high. It'll be interesting to see what sort of response we get. And it does go down to a few the smallest was six acres that blocks the freeway if it developed, but that's very far the exception. Most of them are big properties.

Sounds good. Thank you.

I guess on that Eric brings up a good point. I know we've talked about this a few times, the sort of having a landowner workshop. That's something we should probably look to accomplish here in the next few months is maybe organizing and having a a landowner workshop for this program or something like that. So sometime in the spring or summer.

Yes.

Maybe we should try and have that on our agenda going forward as an item. Fourth. Yeah. I'll be holding across school,

but then at the end, it will switch over to a conservation fair. So we can call a booth

Yeah. Conservation fair. Okay. That's February 4. Where is that at? What's the date? February And it's a landowner workshop? K. So family law would be the other person working out in the past. So Yeah. I think we'd be we'd love to you know, if if there was interesting in in capacity in the schedule, we'd love to Okay. Make a presentation about COSAC and the program and everything. Okay. So keep that in mind too, and I'm, like, even bringing it for three minutes to talk about it. Yeah. Okay. That'd be great. Or I can just give you the presentation. Yeah. I'm never looking at one side. I'm never talking about it as an adult. Okay. That's that's exciting. So that's that'll be a good active activity to work towards. She heard herself. Yeah. I mean, that sounds great. That sounds really great. Alright. So we're good on the outreach letter. Anything else on that? I guess, let us know what you need, Angie, from us, or how we can help. You bet.

That happens. We'll get to that.

Yeah. But come from the sheriff's department. Yeah.

Thanks. And then I Gabe thank you, Keegan.

Gabe. I got him from o two about the Greenbelt system.

Thank you. The that letter will be in PDF format on our agenda packet if you need an electronic version. So

Question?

Yes. How do you get on the list to get the letter? That's a good question.

You don't need need to get the letter to apply either. So it was it was some specific some specific areas that we wanna make sure that was that was in the bond that passed, the language in the bond that passed, they matched the those locations.

So it's it's it's targeted?

It is. This letter is targeted to just make try and make those landowners aware of the program, and it's targeted in kinda gateway areas. And so if you think of the, sort of, the mouth of Sardine Canyon or the at the Utah Idaho border, coming in from the North. There's six or seven different kind of areas, that we generated a a mailing list of a 150 landowners to send this letter to. And again, what spurred it on is we weren't seeing a whole lot of applications, and so we're trying to get the word out to folks. But tell us tell us about your project. Where's your where's your property at? Well, I'm I have several clients plus myself that are major land owners. We're just curious what's going on. Okay. And are you with a land trust or just private citizen?

Land broker.

Okay. Well, what I can tell you is that there is an application on our website, and we encourage and welcome everyone to

apply, make applications. Post this letter on your website just so we can see what those guys are getting.

Absolutely.

Yeah. Do a copy here? Is there a way to do that for him? Or To provide him a copy? I could give you I'll I'll give you a cut my copy off the back of this.

Oh, yeah. It's there. Let's get the public Yeah. Knowing what's

This is great. This is great. That's But, again, this letter is just targeted to one of the facets of the language. So this letter may not even apply to you if your land isn't, you know, adjacent to one of these valley gateways. But that's not saying we're not interested in your property. And you can go on you can go online and learn much more about the the whole process, but we'd be really interested in hearing more about your property.

Great. And just to be more transparent, that'd be great. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. You

bet.

Okay. Anything else? And you may be getting the letter, but it

might show up. What are your clients, maybe? Anything else on the outreach letter? Committee members? Anything we wanna update on item number six, the funding strategy for small parcels? I guess, in in a way, it may be the that green belt kickback program that is a big part of the strategy and learning more about that maybe is is Because we could really target a actual

yeah. More more more, non our NRCS, combined on that particular type of model. Yeah. I think

maybe you guys have had similar experiences, but I I know I've I've had quite a few landowners ask me about applying to the program, but there are 10 acres or 15 acres, not really gonna attract support necessarily from those other programs. And so this would certainly give us a mechanism to find find more or fund more of those kind of projects.

Along with this and going back to the gentleman's comment, I wonder if it's if with the tax stock that goes out to everybody, if there could be something about I mean, this is a long way off. This is in October or whatever. That first letter that goes out Yeah. If we had a little piece about the program in that letter that goes that that what we had to do is get money to do this, so we made it a little smaller. But with that, if we're just going in the same envelope, do you think they'd let us do that?

We can ask. Okay. Yeah. Now the executive got a letter right there. Yeah. He did.

So so maybe maybe that's our end. Maybe there's a way to

to delineate, like, who's in Greenbelt. Yeah. Let them have a copy of that. So I'll send it every house. Yeah. But Even even better.

The world know what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Great.

K. Anything else

come to mind on I really like the green bell option.

Yeah. Yeah. That focus is better. Yeah. You're not sending it to subdivisions.

Sending it to subdivisions.

Yeah.

Well, I'm yeah. I'm I'm talking about, like, you targeting green belt money Oh, yeah. Yeah. For some of these smaller and go back Oh, okay. Going back to mister Cooper and saying, hey. We're gonna buy the this your conservation easement. We want you to use it to buy the neighbor's property, and we'll buy that conservation easement too, and you have 40 acres there Well, it's along that freeway. A lot simpler for years than an in house money. That's

right. This blue sky money. That's right. I mean, it's really blue sky. $4,000,000

for the state of Utah. I don't know very far. Yep.

Yeah. We've had a $4,000,000 project. You know. Yeah. Cash. We'll

take it all.

Try that and see if that fits. Yeah.

Okay. If there's nothing else on item six, maybe we'll move on to item seven, other business.

What do folks wanna talk about here? You want me to just bring up the fraud scraping? Sure. Let's do it. So I Brian, I know just to answer your question, then Gabe brought it up as well because, Gabe, your some of your clients, it sounds like, received someone came through, scraped the COSAC website, of the and sent a bill for $4,000 to Vivian Christiansen. Looked really good. Looks pretty pretty pretty real. And Yes. It does not. This little warning. It sounds like this is a common thing, Angie.

Apparently. Yeah. We first reported it to our IT six, eight weeks ago, and then he received this. Yes. I think he sent it to me last month or last yeah. Ten days ago. Yeah. And you can see in this, notification that they, included the exact template, Yeah. And we'll continue to let them know. And it's this one.

Approval. Using the government Phil, the language on this one is pretty specific to the open space stuff too. I mean, it was, like they use AI to, like AI. To Yeah. Yeah. They had the language. Yeah.

It came from Angie. I bet you said that. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. So I guess I'll maybe let us know, Angie, if there's any recommendations from IT as far as how we can modify the application process and or how the

And legally, what do we need to website. What do we need to put out there? I I know legally, people need transparency on who's applying and stuff, but at the same time, if they're now becoming the tar the fraud target, I what is the

Yeah. Maybe a note on the form online that says, you know, fraud warning or something. Double check with us before you do anything.

Yeah. Just I I don't think anybody's been successful. We've had a lot of complaints once they've received this. They come in hot, but, yeah, we were able to explain.

I know I know when I got the email, it was easy to discern that it was and I didn't even open it. So Yeah. Anyway, not everybody will catch that though. They're getting pretty sophisticated.

That can be part of the strategy too as they go for people who are less discerning. Yeah. They get one out of a million. It's worth their time.

Well, especially if AI is doing this crazy. Yeah.

It's not an issue we foresaw. We got this up and ready. Is is Vivian okay now?

Because they they came in hot.

Especially when it was like a a reason denial and then they get another invoice.

They're extremely inactive.

Anything else? Other business folks wanna mention or bring up?

If we get by the next meeting how this green belt's gonna come well, it'd be nice or some some kind of a idea.

Yeah. And I'm I you know Maybe that's too quick. We we let Keegan know, but I think I'll also bring it up when we go to the council with the champion project. I'll I'll bring it up with the council again and let them know if we don't have any more information that we're Yeah. How they're gonna handle those Yeah. Basically?

You you brought up another member. You know? How how do we go through that process? By the way, Justin's extremely valuable, yes, on that default seat.

Yeah.

I think getting since he can always be with us, getting a a community member there and then having the because he he's always gonna have that value to us there.

Okay. I'm good with that. I just thought it would happen. So

Yeah. Regan, I I would like us to have seven voting members come to every meeting. Yeah. Who do I tell them? Yeah. Right.

I so I who do I send to? Somebody that when they apply or

They go through the executive.

Office?

They have the council both the council and the ex well, I I guess I'm thinking of the previous executive. The nominees?

Yeah. Yeah. It's the executive nomination.

Where do they start the trail? I think that one guy has asked me two or three times, he'd like to

Oh,

okay. The the county executive secretary? Yeah. I would start with. Yeah. That's where she needs to start. Okay. Alright. That answers that. The seats at large?

Yes. I believe representatives or speakers where we're just meeting to keep a more. Yeah. I can double check. We do have a table that goes through that. Okay. Used for these appointments. Will we get one more trail guy? We Well,

Do we have any trail updates? That I was gonna ask.

Would would you any updates for us?

Great. I know you guys need that.

Sounds good. Gabe or Brian, any projects you foresee come into COSAC in the near future? Applications or otherwise?

I don't I don't foresee anything currently.

K. I didn't know if the the projects that were there in North Logan were gonna gain any traction.

Oh, the corbiches and the ash crafts. I think so. I I actually I haven't personally visited with them. I know Debbie did, but I think they're probably just gonna try to work with their constituents and try to get

Great. Is everybody holding out for NRCS money?

Are they holding out for NRCS? Yeah.

Got any takers with the state of Utah money and county money?

No word on it yet. No. Okay.

No. I might be a long wait. Yeah.

Yeah. With that shutdown. So Yeah. Well Yeah. So the

number is $4,000,000 in the state of Utah.

Does that include stuff that was previously earmarked? Like the other some some of the stuff that you had talked about?

Get games like that came out of the Yeah. That's separate than our RCPP application. Thank you. So that's just separate? That's separate. It's a separate cost of money. Yep. And, again, that's that's their initial allocation. It doesn't mean, like, right, it doesn't mean they can't go ask for more.

K.

Anything else, committee members?

I just had one last thing. If if we're gonna go to this or offer explanation

Yeah.

About how many do you think? I counted a 125

last year Mhmm. Before for the first half, and then

I think, Jay's counted 200. These are landowners in the county? Yes. Landowners and you have more people in the industry. Perfect.

So it's a big deal. Definitely. Yeah.

When is it again? February 4.

I've got a, you know, a canned presentation about the program and everything that I can just quickly update with more current information from the four or five months ago I gave you. Your number was I wanted to present it. Sure.

I'll call you tomorrow with my agenda. Sounds great. And plug in the end as I start moving people around when they're available. K.

Definitely. K. K. K. Anything else, committee members? K. Without objection, then I'll adjourn the meeting. Thank you.