04-24-2023 RAPZ COMMITTEE
2026-04-10
we're done okay uh with that in the mine there let's uh like I say we can attack this several different ways but uh would you like to actually go according to the rankings that we have these in the order and these rankings you remember as we placed them as we went through them we from one to five five being of a higher rank hopefully one year went the other way and we had to redo them someone thought that one was the highest and I go it wasn't we're not playing golf so uh anyway we had to change it but this year the five being the highest they collected I guess all the stores together and so these different areas do have a the higher you know go we would go according to the higher rankings then uh anyone have a preference as far as which or which we can work through the bulk looks like the bulk of the dollars is mostly out of the wraps tax itself go ahead Dave would it be easier where you've got these already Alpha not alphabetized but in the numbering system to go ahead and follow that versus North but the score sheet and then go back and find it on there rather than going back and forth I uh as long as we always look to the ranking I think the ranking is kind of is pretty valuable as far as what we collectively have put together uh I would just I really don't have a preference either by the number and then obviously the ranking like you said is very important but still I think what saying is is valuable to be able to go in the order that we have been studying this but review then back as we go through and write our notes is it easier to go through here and find the numbers when we're going through here to go back and find the number through the pages which would be easy for us I think it'd be easier to look at the number system I'm not sure what the rest of you think though okay I like your recommendation I I remember in past years jumping back and forth and being lost it seemed inefficient jumping around so we go through an order I think it'll be faster for us we will need maybe a little input when we are up here and you see a number two looks like we're following some of them but then some of them will have to jump down we can get back and forth to find them on those different pages we might have to have a little communication and help there but we can do it okay okay let's I just you know we want to make sure we're paying careful attention to the scores like you said as we're going through and maybe come back at the end with the ability to change if we need to do we have the ability to change it if we find we didn't find something with a higher score but funded something with a lower score or something like that right and uh you know when there's some of them you put stars by them as we talk about them and stuff like that and make little comments and as we go through it yes when we're done say hey let's go back now see where we're at and we can adjust accordingly we do our best so so you're you're saying you want to go through numerical or in this sections or the categories the book the book let's go according to the book if we can okay that's that's super confusing like I mean you might not even get to have them if you're just gonna run out of phones by the time you get your priorities done but that's just me no we'll get to all of them yeah okay I do so so if you go so you'll start with wraps uh we have to get to all of them I know we had to get to all of them so your funds may not your funds are the issue you know it so you want to start with the wrap section and it and if it was also asked uh Cody right yeah Cody I also asked earlier that sometimes we have had uh some that we have not allocated and in all wisdom that is wise that we do that we have some of that that is not allocated because then when it goes to the County Council and they also then have some public input from them then instead of often taking from somebody other entities if you have a little bit here but then we can add to it's a lot easier rather than uh building some people's hopes up and then having stripped later it's almost better to to uh have that buffer to be able to bring them in later does that make sense it seems to work out a lot better and sometimes we also have some that is even left over and we have had some uh very very valuable projects that have come up like during the year which is uh you know a surprise Grant that's coming in and it's allowed us to actually use from that buffer to uh have enough money to actually award that to get the partnership with that Grant I know it's helped us on some really big themes in the past that came up during the year so anyway we tried to be frugal but we also try to be or with the money because it is again all this is still taxpayer money so with that in mind let's go here number two now the process of going through this get berries uh I hope all of you have looked through all the information now some of this here I let's be a little bit sensitive because this is uh now in the public I think that some of these numbers and that that we and share I don't know how much some of these organizations really like to have their you know their information splatted over the whole it's being recorded and everything so I guess let's be a little sensitive but let's ask some good detailed questions to get to the the reasoning why we do what we do so with that American Festival chorus number two uh it's nice we'll open that up for discussions go from there we'll how do you feel and estimates and go ahead I believe based on their history which has always been 30 000 for quite a few years they never asked for more than they need so I would go in this case here for the Forty thousand uh they we ought to give them that that amount this year okay however they did budget for a thirty thousand dollar they do excess yeah and so to start with I I was going to recommend that we just go with the thirty thousand that they have done in the past I noticed about that they budgeted exactly what you said a little bit high for excess and uh and we don't this money isn't to be safe to create slush funds and it does have a really high ranking that so the budget they've budgeted for 30 000. yeah this was the highest ranking cultural project yep should we put it at 30 and then do you want to put a star we can come back okay yeah I was looking at that 58 over there yeah 20. they budgeted 25 000 to go to an endowment fund and a six thousand dollar excess after that and so those two added together come to the 30 000 that I was saying they were budgeted and I don't think our money is actually meant to be for rainy day funds so let's put a star by it and we can come back to address it okay number three American West Heritage Center their operations one uh there again they've had surpluses in 20 and 21. 200 000 and 248 000. but they're in a little different situation in that they have facilities that they have to maintain and keep and so I actually uh I was thinking of ninety thousand of the 105. yeah I had them at 85 but yeah I had them at 95.95 90. 90. let's put it with 90. they are I think that I know looking through these I as I would look the covered years kind of excuse everybody's a little bit during those couple years and so uh should we put that 90 then you know it shows on their on the 990 that they got a 1.3 million that's on their 990. I'm not sure where you're looking on that one read what about income statement shows 200. I thought they had a comment in there that a lot of that was actually that they were they have hoping to combine some of this person projects uh the projects that you're after again this is the operational yeah it sounds like between 85 and 90 everybody's in agreement on that let's put it 90. okay we go 90. okay uh 20 let's go with uh here we are number four she's also American West Capital Improvements no that was their yeah their Capital maintenance request I like what they have there and I allocated 45 000. I did too I feel that but uh 45 anyone else feel different I had 40 on it so we're close I had 40 of myself but that's fine 40 45. feelings either one's fine with me okay you know you looked at it I had 45 but um but okay 45. okay sounds good uh looking good number six you go in numerical cash Children's Choir
we're done okay uh with that in the mine there let's uh like I say we can attack this several different ways but uh would you like to actually go according to the rankings that we have these in the order and these rankings you remember as we placed them as we went through them we from one to five five being of a higher rank hopefully one year went the other way and we had to redo them someone thought that one was the highest and I go it wasn't we're not playing golf so uh anyway we had to change it but this year the five being the highest they collected I guess all the stores together and so these different areas do have a the higher you know go we would go according to the higher rankings then uh anyone have a preference as far as which or which we can work through the bulk looks like the bulk of the dollars is mostly out of the wraps tax itself go ahead Dave would it be easier where you've got these already Alpha not alphabetized but in the numbering system to go ahead and follow that versus North but the score sheet and then go back and find it on there rather than going back and forth I uh as long as we always look to the ranking I think the ranking is kind of is pretty valuable as far as what we collectively have put together uh I would just I really don't have a preference either by the number and then obviously the ranking like you said is very important but still I think what saying is is valuable to be able to go in the order that we have been studying this but review then back as we go through and write our notes is it easier to go through here and find the numbers when we're going through here to go back and find the number through the pages which would be easy for us I think it'd be easier to look at the number system I'm not sure what the rest of you think though okay I like your recommendation I I remember in past years jumping back and forth and being lost it seemed inefficient jumping around so we go through an order I think it'll be faster for us we will need maybe a little input when we are up here and you see a number two looks like we're following some of them but then some of them will have to jump down we can get back and forth to find them on those different pages we might have to have a little communication and help there but we can do it okay okay let's I just you know we want to make sure we're paying careful attention to the scores like you said as we're going through and maybe come back at the end with the ability to change if we need to do we have the ability to change it if we find we didn't find something with a higher score but funded something with a lower score or something like that right and uh you know when there's some of them you put stars by them as we talk about them and stuff like that and make little comments and as we go through it yes when we're done say hey let's go back now see where we're at and we can adjust accordingly we do our best so so you're you're saying you want to go through numerical or in this sections or the categories the book the book let's go according to the book if we can okay that's that's super confusing like I mean you might not even get to have them if you're just gonna run out of phones by the time you get your priorities done but that's just me no we'll get to all of them yeah okay I do so so if you go so you'll start with wraps uh we have to get to all of them I know we had to get to all of them so your funds may not your funds are the issue you know it so you want to start with the wrap section and it and if it was also asked uh Cody right yeah Cody I also asked earlier that sometimes we have had uh some that we have not allocated and in all wisdom that is wise that we do that we have some of that that is not allocated because then when it goes to the County Council and they also then have some public input from them then instead of often taking from somebody other entities if you have a little bit here but then we can add to it's a lot easier rather than uh building some people's hopes up and then having stripped later it's almost better to to uh have that buffer to be able to bring them in later does that make sense it seems to work out a lot better and sometimes we also have some that is even left over and we have had some uh very very valuable projects that have come up like during the year which is uh you know a surprise Grant that's coming in and it's allowed us to actually use from that buffer to uh have enough money to actually award that to get the partnership with that Grant I know it's helped us on some really big themes in the past that came up during the year so anyway we tried to be frugal but we also try to be or with the money because it is again all this is still taxpayer money so with that in mind let's go here number two now the process of going through this get berries uh I hope all of you have looked through all the information now some of this here I let's be a little bit sensitive because this is uh now in the public I think that some of these numbers and that that we and share I don't know how much some of these organizations really like to have their you know their information splatted over the whole it's being recorded and everything so I guess let's be a little sensitive but let's ask some good detailed questions to get to the the reasoning why we do what we do so with that American Festival chorus number two uh it's nice we'll open that up for discussions go from there we'll how do you feel and estimates and go ahead I believe based on their history which has always been 30 000 for quite a few years they never asked for more than they need so I would go in this case here for the Forty thousand uh they we ought to give them that that amount this year okay however they did budget for a thirty thousand dollar they do excess yeah and so to start with I I was going to recommend that we just go with the thirty thousand that they have done in the past I noticed about that they budgeted exactly what you said a little bit high for excess and uh and we don't this money isn't to be safe to create slush funds and it does have a really high ranking that so the budget they've budgeted for 30 000. yeah this was the highest ranking cultural project yep should we put it at 30 and then do you want to put a star we can come back okay yeah I was looking at that 58 over there yeah 20. they budgeted 25 000 to go to an endowment fund and a six thousand dollar excess after that and so those two added together come to the 30 000 that I was saying they were budgeted and I don't think our money is actually meant to be for rainy day funds so let's put a star by it and we can come back to address it okay number three American West Heritage Center their operations one uh there again they've had surpluses in 20 and 21. 200 000 and 248 000. but they're in a little different situation in that they have facilities that they have to maintain and keep and so I actually uh I was thinking of ninety thousand of the 105. yeah I had them at 85 but yeah I had them at 95.95 90. 90. let's put it with 90. they are I think that I know looking through these I as I would look the covered years kind of excuse everybody's a little bit during those couple years and so uh should we put that 90 then you know it shows on their on the 990 that they got a 1.3 million that's on their 990. I'm not sure where you're looking on that one read what about income statement shows 200. I thought they had a comment in there that a lot of that was actually that they were they have hoping to combine some of this person projects uh the projects that you're after again this is the operational yeah it sounds like between 85 and 90 everybody's in agreement on that let's put it 90. okay we go 90. okay uh 20 let's go with uh here we are number four she's also American West Capital Improvements no that was their yeah their Capital maintenance request I like what they have there and I allocated 45 000. I did too I feel that but uh 45 anyone else feel different I had 40 on it so we're close I had 40 of myself but that's fine 40 45. feelings either one's fine with me okay you know you looked at it I had 45 but um but okay 45. okay sounds good uh looking good number six you go in numerical cash Children's Choir
it's on page two of the square sheet thank you
it's on page two of the square sheet thank you
drink to the 32. I put him down for nine for the cash Children's Choir I put him down for eight myself so I've been down for total I I think for that small amount for somebody that oh that's my Iran they were missing their prior years accounting I didn't see an accounting of their prior year in there that bothered me a little bit we didn't were they under the threshold I think if you're under uh 25 000 request and you don't end up having you but that's what the application saying that it wasn't on the history yeah have not applied in the last few years no they replied before they got awarded 8 000 last year I had about 10 000 myself um and it's a small amount of high impact for the kids that are involved how much 10 . the number of children they were serving and they only list 120. yeah I thought they were a little higher than that myself but they that's what they listed so they listed 120 children and so I didn't give them that much I put mine at five thousand dollars what have we historically given last year we put them at eight and I was I had it down for eight again but uh myself but we got everybody from five to sixteen what do you feel I feel that this is a a course for children that is really aiming to to teach them well I mean it's it's high quality uh of course and so I gave them 10. yeah I say eight or ten is a good range Dan let's go Ted good yeah yep ten okay number seven that's also on the same page it looks like Cash Valley Civic ballet did I miss some information on previous years no I don't think there was anything on previous years all right number 13 the application has some reports on under number five on previous restaurant in wraps tax funding has a bunch of stuff I am having a hard time finding him on the uh I think they might have enlisted different or something yeah yeah they were cat they were under a different name they were really annoying they changed their name in the middle and I'm like they're they're here under Cache Valley Civic ballet Cash Valley Civic looks like you know they've had funding every year since 2018. so it looks like it's usually been what about 10 20 000. thank you they're showing that they've got 285 000. um and last year they had 121 000 Surplus yeah anyone else feel different I'm easy I had a little bit more of it tends fine okay here we are let's go eight number eight oh same one that has to do that's where I replacing it that's where they're replacing the floor in the Whittier the thing I like about this the performance is obviously a really important you know but uh has the potential to be capacity building for the Whittier Center I presume that there are other organizations that would use this space as well um and and where we build capacity it's not just for this organization but it serves the broader community so that for me has some value um I don't this one may not have scored as well though and we need to keep keep that in mind we did score as well yeah it's down to the 24th better for me I like this one more than I did number one I didn't was like whatever but this one I like a little bit more because I'm the same way it's not just them it's it's bigger picture and long term yeah I would agree if we were looking at between their two projects which we would prioritize I would prioritize this higher because you're right Damon it I've I've been to multiple events at that building um they weren't valet and all kinds of different stuff going on in there they want us to help fund a hundred percent of that project that's what ranked it down for me that's it that's what exactly and then the other part but the word especially if you're carrying a little bit of a reserve and if it's that important then I would have thought they would have participated a little bit with that you know it'll match or we'll do yeah 10 or whatever the county puts in or something they watch what I'm trying to learn is where you guys are enjoy I mean I enjoy the process a little bit of sometimes when they ask for a certain amount what what makes that less approachable but whether it's Surplus or whether it's past but the number of people you're serving how that one participating you know it's it's interesting when people come to uh you know when they come for an application you'd think that if it's really extremely important to them which um it feels like it that they would also have some other skin in the game you know they would what what are they also providing to it's a percentage you know where they can actually compound the dollars a little bit more for to get something done or in some cases is is the community donating labor yeah right I noticed that that was actually that's critical that shows that it's important yes yeah I personally took a lot of weight into that I appreciate that quite a bit and so yeah this one I'm sorry if they had came and asked for 50 support would we have funded it and if if so oh yeah what would happen if we said we'll give you 50 of it assuming that you can cover the rest of the costs I would have ranked it higher based on their Surplus and that I think that they would probably be able to do so and if not then they can come back next year and make plans to come and with a request yeah I had eight to eight thousand on it and open so yeah so that sends a message to them the other thing I'm not sure if we need to look at this here but it shows on their application there's 300 kids and I said you know if you raise each one of those kids it's just four dollars a month for eight months out of the year not twelve to eight months so it's being conservative right you'd pick up ten thousand dollars uh right there so I only based on that I only I gave them four thousand dollars thinking that they could actually get it by raising it by four dollars a month which I don't think is going to be much of an impact to a little Financial standpoint but just another way to look at it interesting thought I didn't consider it that way yeah yeah no that's that's you know okay what are we would you have a proposal I'd propose seven thousand yeah I agree with that David anyone different that's good okay seven 58.50 last year and that's what they're asking foreign historically I think we've given them whatever they requested because they do such a good job with it and remember any surplus and they know where they're gonna and they they put a lot of money in it then to me I don't think they're for what everything that they're putting into I don't think they're putting yeah we're asking to pull them out okay that's what I had to 58.50 good excellent uh 13. let's see on page four of the score sheet or bleachers a couple years ago is this additional yes these are additional bleachers the ones we funded a couple years ago were the basically their ones on wheels that are also shared throughout the community and these are more stationary ones they're not the they're not the ones that that can actually be picked up put on a you know hooked up to the back of the truck and then take into other communities is easy they stay there I when they're they're moved around from 10th to 10th kind of deal and at the concerts I just wondered if we were wearing them out that fast no no the others they have a they've had a bunch of those I know down there and they are they're very well used and they've even loaded those up and taken them to other events also and in that process they've been they've been pretty well beat up but the ones that I know the ones on wheels are they're used and a lot of celebrations through the county so I'm glad we got those when we did too because the price of those have just gone out of this world Dave yes last year I believe we pretty sure we did it this way we took all of the difference uh request that they had for the different projects like for for Cache County how should they requested 599 Thousand Seven seventy basically six hundred thousand we allotted them and there was one two three six different projects that we awarded awarded them four hundred thousand so what we did last year we took every one of the projects and whatever they requested we gave to them with the exception of one and then we just went ahead and says okay if we're going to give them four hundred thousand we'll go ahead and give them one for one up until you get to that last number and they requested 340 000 we gave him 149 on that project but all the other projects were funded we decided that they knew what they better could use those funds for than us trying to allocate here and here and here and here so even though their ranked Fishers starting in uh the number 11. the number 11 application 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17. 12 will go to the uh County Fairground and their request this year is 553 000. and so we're going to give them 400 000 like we did last year or some number that we come up with but then we're going to use the same format that we used last year which is much easier than trying to give them a lot and say that and and what they've done is they've gone through and they've also prioritized them themselves
drink to the 32. I put him down for nine for the cash Children's Choir I put him down for eight myself so I've been down for total I I think for that small amount for somebody that oh that's my Iran they were missing their prior years accounting I didn't see an accounting of their prior year in there that bothered me a little bit we didn't were they under the threshold I think if you're under uh 25 000 request and you don't end up having you but that's what the application saying that it wasn't on the history yeah have not applied in the last few years no they replied before they got awarded 8 000 last year I had about 10 000 myself um and it's a small amount of high impact for the kids that are involved how much 10 . the number of children they were serving and they only list 120. yeah I thought they were a little higher than that myself but they that's what they listed so they listed 120 children and so I didn't give them that much I put mine at five thousand dollars what have we historically given last year we put them at eight and I was I had it down for eight again but uh myself but we got everybody from five to sixteen what do you feel I feel that this is a a course for children that is really aiming to to teach them well I mean it's it's high quality uh of course and so I gave them 10. yeah I say eight or ten is a good range Dan let's go Ted good yeah yep ten okay number seven that's also on the same page it looks like Cash Valley Civic ballet did I miss some information on previous years no I don't think there was anything on previous years all right number 13 the application has some reports on under number five on previous restaurant in wraps tax funding has a bunch of stuff I am having a hard time finding him on the uh I think they might have enlisted different or something yeah yeah they were cat they were under a different name they were really annoying they changed their name in the middle and I'm like they're they're here under Cache Valley Civic ballet Cash Valley Civic looks like you know they've had funding every year since 2018. so it looks like it's usually been what about 10 20 000. thank you they're showing that they've got 285 000. um and last year they had 121 000 Surplus yeah anyone else feel different I'm easy I had a little bit more of it tends fine okay here we are let's go eight number eight oh same one that has to do that's where I replacing it that's where they're replacing the floor in the Whittier the thing I like about this the performance is obviously a really important you know but uh has the potential to be capacity building for the Whittier Center I presume that there are other organizations that would use this space as well um and and where we build capacity it's not just for this organization but it serves the broader community so that for me has some value um I don't this one may not have scored as well though and we need to keep keep that in mind we did score as well yeah it's down to the 24th better for me I like this one more than I did number one I didn't was like whatever but this one I like a little bit more because I'm the same way it's not just them it's it's bigger picture and long term yeah I would agree if we were looking at between their two projects which we would prioritize I would prioritize this higher because you're right Damon it I've I've been to multiple events at that building um they weren't valet and all kinds of different stuff going on in there they want us to help fund a hundred percent of that project that's what ranked it down for me that's it that's what exactly and then the other part but the word especially if you're carrying a little bit of a reserve and if it's that important then I would have thought they would have participated a little bit with that you know it'll match or we'll do yeah 10 or whatever the county puts in or something they watch what I'm trying to learn is where you guys are enjoy I mean I enjoy the process a little bit of sometimes when they ask for a certain amount what what makes that less approachable but whether it's Surplus or whether it's past but the number of people you're serving how that one participating you know it's it's interesting when people come to uh you know when they come for an application you'd think that if it's really extremely important to them which um it feels like it that they would also have some other skin in the game you know they would what what are they also providing to it's a percentage you know where they can actually compound the dollars a little bit more for to get something done or in some cases is is the community donating labor yeah right I noticed that that was actually that's critical that shows that it's important yes yeah I personally took a lot of weight into that I appreciate that quite a bit and so yeah this one I'm sorry if they had came and asked for 50 support would we have funded it and if if so oh yeah what would happen if we said we'll give you 50 of it assuming that you can cover the rest of the costs I would have ranked it higher based on their Surplus and that I think that they would probably be able to do so and if not then they can come back next year and make plans to come and with a request yeah I had eight to eight thousand on it and open so yeah so that sends a message to them the other thing I'm not sure if we need to look at this here but it shows on their application there's 300 kids and I said you know if you raise each one of those kids it's just four dollars a month for eight months out of the year not twelve to eight months so it's being conservative right you'd pick up ten thousand dollars uh right there so I only based on that I only I gave them four thousand dollars thinking that they could actually get it by raising it by four dollars a month which I don't think is going to be much of an impact to a little Financial standpoint but just another way to look at it interesting thought I didn't consider it that way yeah yeah no that's that's you know okay what are we would you have a proposal I'd propose seven thousand yeah I agree with that David anyone different that's good okay seven 58.50 last year and that's what they're asking foreign historically I think we've given them whatever they requested because they do such a good job with it and remember any surplus and they know where they're gonna and they they put a lot of money in it then to me I don't think they're for what everything that they're putting into I don't think they're putting yeah we're asking to pull them out okay that's what I had to 58.50 good excellent uh 13. let's see on page four of the score sheet or bleachers a couple years ago is this additional yes these are additional bleachers the ones we funded a couple years ago were the basically their ones on wheels that are also shared throughout the community and these are more stationary ones they're not the they're not the ones that that can actually be picked up put on a you know hooked up to the back of the truck and then take into other communities is easy they stay there I when they're they're moved around from 10th to 10th kind of deal and at the concerts I just wondered if we were wearing them out that fast no no the others they have a they've had a bunch of those I know down there and they are they're very well used and they've even loaded those up and taken them to other events also and in that process they've been they've been pretty well beat up but the ones that I know the ones on wheels are they're used and a lot of celebrations through the county so I'm glad we got those when we did too because the price of those have just gone out of this world Dave yes last year I believe we pretty sure we did it this way we took all of the difference uh request that they had for the different projects like for for Cache County how should they requested 599 Thousand Seven seventy basically six hundred thousand we allotted them and there was one two three six different projects that we awarded awarded them four hundred thousand so what we did last year we took every one of the projects and whatever they requested we gave to them with the exception of one and then we just went ahead and says okay if we're going to give them four hundred thousand we'll go ahead and give them one for one up until you get to that last number and they requested 340 000 we gave him 149 on that project but all the other projects were funded we decided that they knew what they better could use those funds for than us trying to allocate here and here and here and here so even though their ranked Fishers starting in uh the number 11. the number 11 application 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17. 12 will go to the uh County Fairground and their request this year is 553 000. and so we're going to give them 400 000 like we did last year or some number that we come up with but then we're going to use the same format that we used last year which is much easier than trying to give them a lot and say that and and what they've done is they've gone through and they've also prioritized them themselves
decide what we're going to give them in total and I still think it's a good way to do it I think we did last year and then they can but their priority then they can just yeah about it down and then find other their own matching dollars to if they want to you know even though they put their priority on the application they may want to revisit that based on what we give them do we feel like any of those are unproportional like you would rank them differently like this is way more important did you guys see any of that discrepancy I'd say last year we gave them four hundred thousand I mean for my own Parts some of those projects looked better to me than others yes and that's for that like specifically 13 looked better to me than some of these others I ranked them in the exact same order that the uh that the fairgrounds ranked them I I thought the bleachers one um it's not terribly expensive I've sat on those bleachers watching my kids show sheep and and with lots of other people it would be bad if those collapsed that um the uh um and then the next two I ranked of fours and the last two I ranked at threes uh and so I I I would fully fund the first three but if they wanted to move for sure myself and then if they wanted to move some money around because they had otherwise to handle stuff I don't have an issue with that and I would maybe partially fund the other two or or but but I like the idea of saying look here here's an amount of money to support across these goals please make sure you get one two and three done and if or or if if the group felt like they had that kind of Direction and then see what you can do on the others at your discretion no this year how much were you thinking we're 500 and what thousand last year after 597 this year they've requested 553. yeah at 535. based on the 600 down right in there you know that facility has been an amazing thing you know as we've done the event center and and that's kind of one of those things if you build it they will come that place is just this is just packed year round I'm shocked at the volume of people that are using that facility it's another capacity building thing that that gets used by lots of groups all over the valley uh from from uh events with vendors is it affordable to them too yeah uh and and great economic impact for the valley on a broader spectrum because of these groups that are coming in drawing in tourists as well as providing interest out of the 553 000 did you say yeah that's a request how much uh how much would you you're looking at those and what they're willing to put in 600 to 400 last year I'd say 550 and take it down to 375. but I would still go ahead and let them because I I definitely believe that in my own situation I trust the Cache County committee and all those that are dealing with it for them to decide what they want to put as one two three and four and it's similar to Logan City I think Logan City kind of has the same thing is the same way you know they were they prioritized and have a big chunk so but again like I say this year there's uh 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17 all relate to much 375 as you say that 375 if you want to start there today or do you have it or I was going to at least maintain the 400 000 myself and I haven't I don't have a problem you feel good okay let's stick with the 400 now okay A Little Star on that one and come back if there's so let me make sure I understand this correctly so all of the Cache County Fairgrounds one's right so 400 000 to 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17. correct 400 000 starting with their ranking of one and going down until the the four hundred thousand is gone is that correct eyeballing this here you could probably give every one of them 100 percent with the acceptance of number 14 and mate number 14 the plug number the biggest one there okay and but it's their priorities 14 is that the that's the one that's 151 000 that they're requesting but yeah but you they might not feel number their fifth option is number 17. they might they need to do two of them yeah leave it up to their description yeah I guess that's good wisdom so we have to recommend it to the council and so I have to put numbers in each individual so start at number 13 and give it 100 okay everything rating would be on their last project okay can I can I just clarify something it sounds like we've been talking about just the fairgrounds ones and not the cash cow not the Event Center ones but Alma just added in a numbers 11 12 and what he was saying just want to make sure we're both talking about the same thing good point clarification because there's only like 425 000 in requests for the fairground slash Event Center here on 13 to 17. right but then you need to get back in 11 and 12 is somewhere else so are you thinking 11 and 12 are included yes I'm in that 400 000 requests okay okay 11 and 12 differently the The Event Center ones are not prioritized with the fairgrounds Fairgrounds ones are prioritized those Event Center ones are differently they're they're actually submitted by different people they're kind of submitted as if they're different departments and they're going after different funding different funding they're different categories yeah different funding categories my preference would be to handle them separately because of the different funding categories maybe do like 13 through 17 together and then 11 and 12 together yeah that would be my preference because I I saw the same thing they're obviously different people and we did 400 to just the event before and that didn't take into account what would be equivalent of 11 and 12. but I think each one of them from 13 down to 17 also have different people that are putting them in they're not all put in by the same person yeah but I think they were from the same Department it looks like this way they're all listed but I I think what what if we we did something like 325 to 13 through 17. and 75 000 to the other two uh to 11 and 12. so that those can be handled separately but the overall amount still sums to the 400 000 that we've been talking about today I'm okay with that give your numbers again uh 325 and I'm I'm fungible on that uh but but you know somewhere in the neighborhood 3 or 25 to 13 through 17 for the fairgrounds and events but the other ones that aren't fall under tourism promotion and were submitted by someone else do 75 000 for fair and rodeo and house enhancement and the cheese and dairy Festival am I looking at the right yeah you're 25 for the first so 325 13 through 17. and that will what do they add is 425 000 requested for total for those that's what you're saying uh I I'd have them at 75 for both 11 and 12. well I'm keeping that cheese and dairy Festival scored really well if I remember looking at the score sheet so and if we want to bump that up to say 85 and 315 or something like that I you know that just keeps that split at about 400 000 I'm good with that see last year we categorized the Cash Valley chasing that into the County Fairground one that's how we did it last year that's I thought they were combined anyway let's give them the 400 000. but then do the 325 and 75 split so what you do Alma is you start with number 13. 10 of them there 16 4 30. okay number 14 give them the 151.9
decide what we're going to give them in total and I still think it's a good way to do it I think we did last year and then they can but their priority then they can just yeah about it down and then find other their own matching dollars to if they want to you know even though they put their priority on the application they may want to revisit that based on what we give them do we feel like any of those are unproportional like you would rank them differently like this is way more important did you guys see any of that discrepancy I'd say last year we gave them four hundred thousand I mean for my own Parts some of those projects looked better to me than others yes and that's for that like specifically 13 looked better to me than some of these others I ranked them in the exact same order that the uh that the fairgrounds ranked them I I thought the bleachers one um it's not terribly expensive I've sat on those bleachers watching my kids show sheep and and with lots of other people it would be bad if those collapsed that um the uh um and then the next two I ranked of fours and the last two I ranked at threes uh and so I I I would fully fund the first three but if they wanted to move for sure myself and then if they wanted to move some money around because they had otherwise to handle stuff I don't have an issue with that and I would maybe partially fund the other two or or but but I like the idea of saying look here here's an amount of money to support across these goals please make sure you get one two and three done and if or or if if the group felt like they had that kind of Direction and then see what you can do on the others at your discretion no this year how much were you thinking we're 500 and what thousand last year after 597 this year they've requested 553. yeah at 535. based on the 600 down right in there you know that facility has been an amazing thing you know as we've done the event center and and that's kind of one of those things if you build it they will come that place is just this is just packed year round I'm shocked at the volume of people that are using that facility it's another capacity building thing that that gets used by lots of groups all over the valley uh from from uh events with vendors is it affordable to them too yeah uh and and great economic impact for the valley on a broader spectrum because of these groups that are coming in drawing in tourists as well as providing interest out of the 553 000 did you say yeah that's a request how much uh how much would you you're looking at those and what they're willing to put in 600 to 400 last year I'd say 550 and take it down to 375. but I would still go ahead and let them because I I definitely believe that in my own situation I trust the Cache County committee and all those that are dealing with it for them to decide what they want to put as one two three and four and it's similar to Logan City I think Logan City kind of has the same thing is the same way you know they were they prioritized and have a big chunk so but again like I say this year there's uh 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17 all relate to much 375 as you say that 375 if you want to start there today or do you have it or I was going to at least maintain the 400 000 myself and I haven't I don't have a problem you feel good okay let's stick with the 400 now okay A Little Star on that one and come back if there's so let me make sure I understand this correctly so all of the Cache County Fairgrounds one's right so 400 000 to 11 12 13 14 15 16 and 17. correct 400 000 starting with their ranking of one and going down until the the four hundred thousand is gone is that correct eyeballing this here you could probably give every one of them 100 percent with the acceptance of number 14 and mate number 14 the plug number the biggest one there okay and but it's their priorities 14 is that the that's the one that's 151 000 that they're requesting but yeah but you they might not feel number their fifth option is number 17. they might they need to do two of them yeah leave it up to their description yeah I guess that's good wisdom so we have to recommend it to the council and so I have to put numbers in each individual so start at number 13 and give it 100 okay everything rating would be on their last project okay can I can I just clarify something it sounds like we've been talking about just the fairgrounds ones and not the cash cow not the Event Center ones but Alma just added in a numbers 11 12 and what he was saying just want to make sure we're both talking about the same thing good point clarification because there's only like 425 000 in requests for the fairground slash Event Center here on 13 to 17. right but then you need to get back in 11 and 12 is somewhere else so are you thinking 11 and 12 are included yes I'm in that 400 000 requests okay okay 11 and 12 differently the The Event Center ones are not prioritized with the fairgrounds Fairgrounds ones are prioritized those Event Center ones are differently they're they're actually submitted by different people they're kind of submitted as if they're different departments and they're going after different funding different funding they're different categories yeah different funding categories my preference would be to handle them separately because of the different funding categories maybe do like 13 through 17 together and then 11 and 12 together yeah that would be my preference because I I saw the same thing they're obviously different people and we did 400 to just the event before and that didn't take into account what would be equivalent of 11 and 12. but I think each one of them from 13 down to 17 also have different people that are putting them in they're not all put in by the same person yeah but I think they were from the same Department it looks like this way they're all listed but I I think what what if we we did something like 325 to 13 through 17. and 75 000 to the other two uh to 11 and 12. so that those can be handled separately but the overall amount still sums to the 400 000 that we've been talking about today I'm okay with that give your numbers again uh 325 and I'm I'm fungible on that uh but but you know somewhere in the neighborhood 3 or 25 to 13 through 17 for the fairgrounds and events but the other ones that aren't fall under tourism promotion and were submitted by someone else do 75 000 for fair and rodeo and house enhancement and the cheese and dairy Festival am I looking at the right yeah you're 25 for the first so 325 13 through 17. and that will what do they add is 425 000 requested for total for those that's what you're saying uh I I'd have them at 75 for both 11 and 12. well I'm keeping that cheese and dairy Festival scored really well if I remember looking at the score sheet so and if we want to bump that up to say 85 and 315 or something like that I you know that just keeps that split at about 400 000 I'm good with that see last year we categorized the Cash Valley chasing that into the County Fairground one that's how we did it last year that's I thought they were combined anyway let's give them the 400 000. but then do the 325 and 75 split so what you do Alma is you start with number 13. 10 of them there 16 4 30. okay number 14 give them the 151.9
15. the 99 514 and what is that total right now 250 that leaves you a little bit to put to number 16 to finish out the 325. about half I don't have a calculator that's what Alma's here for and then that means crawling different places and 17 wouldn't get any yeah so if if there's less than all that's left on 16 is enough to do less than half of that project maybe we should just take that money and put it on the Event Center side that's not a bad idea just so it's an even break yeah because because we were that basically makes it well around a hundred thousand instead of 75 is that right so that would if we were gonna if we were targeting about 400 000 for those facilities we could easily do the do a hundred thousand on those other two on the uh cheese and Dairy plus yeah 11 and 12 plus the the fair and rodeo enhancement I that means maybe the approach ought to be is to allocate 100 to 11 and 12. yeah yeah and then give everything else to there you go yeah I like that did you know it but if they're different people like you said daily consider doing putting these in and that means that we give 100 to the top two and then we're going to go ahead and shortchange everybody else that put in because you said they're saying different people it's the same department but it's um okay so one is the wraps ones are more facilities and the restaurant tax ones are for events so there are different people who are over those that's why they're different people submitted but it's the same Department still and I guess you could even throw the rodeo in with that too if we I think if that's what that person is number eleven yeah enhancement 11 do you say that's one of them both projects Rodeo enhancement Ron is the one that's submitted 11.
15. the 99 514 and what is that total right now 250 that leaves you a little bit to put to number 16 to finish out the 325. about half I don't have a calculator that's what Alma's here for and then that means crawling different places and 17 wouldn't get any yeah so if if there's less than all that's left on 16 is enough to do less than half of that project maybe we should just take that money and put it on the Event Center side that's not a bad idea just so it's an even break yeah because because we were that basically makes it well around a hundred thousand instead of 75 is that right so that would if we were gonna if we were targeting about 400 000 for those facilities we could easily do the do a hundred thousand on those other two on the uh cheese and Dairy plus yeah 11 and 12 plus the the fair and rodeo enhancement I that means maybe the approach ought to be is to allocate 100 to 11 and 12. yeah yeah and then give everything else to there you go yeah I like that did you know it but if they're different people like you said daily consider doing putting these in and that means that we give 100 to the top two and then we're going to go ahead and shortchange everybody else that put in because you said they're saying different people it's the same department but it's um okay so one is the wraps ones are more facilities and the restaurant tax ones are for events so there are different people who are over those that's why they're different people submitted but it's the same Department still and I guess you could even throw the rodeo in with that too if we I think if that's what that person is number eleven yeah enhancement 11 do you say that's one of them both projects Rodeo enhancement Ron is the one that's submitted 11.
because I'm saying maybe the portable bleachers the replacement the light fixtures and that may be sure to change much more than obviously the 11 and 12. that's I think that's what we're here for is to make that decision yeah yeah I so I like your proposal to fully fund 11 and 12 and then what's left over give it incrementally Constructor projects by my account that puts 289 on the construction projects and 111 on yeah 100 yep on numbers 11 and 12. so 11 to 12 would take would fully funded those and that's about just under 111. that's right it's kind of critical with what's happening is they're growing it's critical for those two to be funded 11 and 12. yeah I agree they are I think so it's crazy the national recognitions
because I'm saying maybe the portable bleachers the replacement the light fixtures and that may be sure to change much more than obviously the 11 and 12. that's I think that's what we're here for is to make that decision yeah yeah I so I like your proposal to fully fund 11 and 12 and then what's left over give it incrementally Constructor projects by my account that puts 289 on the construction projects and 111 on yeah 100 yep on numbers 11 and 12. so 11 to 12 would take would fully funded those and that's about just under 111. that's right it's kind of critical with what's happening is they're growing it's critical for those two to be funded 11 and 12. yeah I agree they are I think so it's crazy the national recognitions
11 is 85 6 and 12 is 25 4. and then whatever's left over will fund fully 13 14 and 15 with a little bit going to 16. yeah about 20 grand and nothing to 17. nothing I think 17 is a project that could wait a year yeah quite easily yeah I agree if it's mostly used in the summertime who's out there roping at at 10 30 at night you'd be surprised okay everyone has their passion I guess so but yeah I I think that's something that we can we can look at a second time you know if they put it back in for another year so I guess so let me see if I can summarize correctly 11 and 12 is fully funded each of those then 13 14. 15 is fully funded each of those and then 16 would take the remaining amount and then 17 would not be receive any funding unless they wanted to move money around across projects and then I think so but we have to make a number of recommendations like if they found some fun somewhere else that they could Shuffle things down okay cool I'm curious how much money does that end up for number 15. 15 songs 16 you can get halfway through 16. 16 yeah yeah that's what I meant number 16. how much does that end up foreign is that right I'm just checking that right now I'm gonna check it it'll give me a few minutes but I'm just curious how close it is to zero or oh like if it's if it's five thousand dollars it's not even perfect you're about twenty one twenty thousand dollars it's 21. and maybe maybe they can do some maybe they can do half the lights or that's what I was wondering if we could have maybe happened yeah take it to that point please to have fun though that's probably one where you could do a partial funding because right and they could even come in next year for the second partial funding and still get the project done yeah it's you know it's a two-year process that these funds have to be spent so yeah that'd be good no you're good about that I didn't get the exact number but it's it's yeah it doesn't spitting distance so funding fully 13 14 and 15 would be 267 844. say that one more time 2 600 and 267 844 to fully fund 13 14 and 15.
11 is 85 6 and 12 is 25 4. and then whatever's left over will fund fully 13 14 and 15 with a little bit going to 16. yeah about 20 grand and nothing to 17. nothing I think 17 is a project that could wait a year yeah quite easily yeah I agree if it's mostly used in the summertime who's out there roping at at 10 30 at night you'd be surprised okay everyone has their passion I guess so but yeah I I think that's something that we can we can look at a second time you know if they put it back in for another year so I guess so let me see if I can summarize correctly 11 and 12 is fully funded each of those then 13 14. 15 is fully funded each of those and then 16 would take the remaining amount and then 17 would not be receive any funding unless they wanted to move money around across projects and then I think so but we have to make a number of recommendations like if they found some fun somewhere else that they could Shuffle things down okay cool I'm curious how much money does that end up for number 15. 15 songs 16 you can get halfway through 16. 16 yeah yeah that's what I meant number 16. how much does that end up foreign is that right I'm just checking that right now I'm gonna check it it'll give me a few minutes but I'm just curious how close it is to zero or oh like if it's if it's five thousand dollars it's not even perfect you're about twenty one twenty thousand dollars it's 21. and maybe maybe they can do some maybe they can do half the lights or that's what I was wondering if we could have maybe happened yeah take it to that point please to have fun though that's probably one where you could do a partial funding because right and they could even come in next year for the second partial funding and still get the project done yeah it's you know it's a two-year process that these funds have to be spent so yeah that'd be good no you're good about that I didn't get the exact number but it's it's yeah it doesn't spitting distance so funding fully 13 14 and 15 would be 267 844. say that one more time 2 600 and 267 844 to fully fund 13 14 and 15.
so 11 was a full percentage eight five five six and twelve was twenty five four and twelve okay
so 11 was a full percentage eight five five six and twelve was twenty five four and twelve okay
hundred and eleven thousand yeah 388 so there's about 12 Grand what was that about 12 Grand 12 Grand okay and I'll double check these numbers that was 12 to 16. correct okay and then let's leave the and then put that remaining portion for now on number 16. let's go with that and then we'll work through it that may be some a place that we come back and take from I'm gonna highlight that or add to it later okay number 16. six or are we round ing that's what I have 21 156. 21 156. okay good that that's a takes care of clear through 17 right pages that one on you see this is another one I think that we need to combine everything that's all projects all the trails yeah you have a total of all the ones that are supposed about two hundred thousand the cash County development services has control over that's probably is that we can combine and go from there I do have one 19 20 and 21 then yeah so yeah I do have just one clarifying question on the site in the uh the 18 is focused on you know basically providing funding for a couple employees as well as some consultant stuff I'm trying to think of Elsewhere where we're funding you know how how are are there rules or guidelines or Norms on funding employees oh this is interesting because four or five years ago when this started Reed and I were both here we said wait they're asking us to fund an employee this is just going to grow and expand sure enough it has well to be fair though this is the type of one you want to grow like to have this Cache County Trails growing that's true it's interesting that they have grown because that's kind of what you're encouraging is that to grow I want to I I love Trail the demand for use of these things is is explosive I'm a mountain biker I I I make use of trails I think that the staff in when I was an elected official uh the the things this group was doing were very helpful it just sticks out to me as a little atypical relative to what we're doing with the other funds there's nothing wrong with that it's just a question of uh at what point and I I'm whether you know whether we're intentional about supporting that and and that's the direction we want to go I'm not trying to say no I don't know I'm trying to to understand if if that was I know we've I remember the process very well you guys hear it very well and and if so there might be a well I gen and generally like the idea of saying okay look here's some funds please go build some things or or you know achieve these goals if we do have uh or more importantly ultimately the County Council has opinions on on this um it might make it worth it knows I'm a proponent of trails very much so um and I I use the trails a lot myself today did they have the second planner last year excuse me did they have a second planner last year there's only been two employees thanks the full-time Trails manager and they and the other one was a part time that we actually pushed it into full time but now that being said and what I am what uh what I have said in the past that being said I put down to fund the whole request Micah could you shut those doors for us please I'm sorry I can't hear what you said yeah okay let's shut those doors here kind of a regardless of what I've said in the past and regardless of what I just said I put down to fund the whole thing and I think I did because of the increase that we've had in available fights this year I I the only thing is sometimes I have a heartburn in funding certain things that uh or two specific certain trails are too specific and not General and uh really help one area one specific area greatly and take up a lot of money uh the Deep Canyon thing is are they always in the same area is that why well there's a deep Canyon project a lot of money that must be like they're that better be lined with gold you know well that one was never developed before was it that's that's pretty new but there were some you know you had such a huge influx of a lot of people going there and it caused a lot of parking issues and problems and to mitigate all that stuff it and the only way to mitigate it was to dump a lot of money and so a lot of money kept and it just seems like it's never ending until we get all the gold blade you know and so I I'd like to I I'm one that I love to see the money make sure that there's something for everybody and we don't hog it all in one area that you gradually build up in areas rather than sink at all do you feel like that's going to go away if or is that just gonna be Perpetual like I mean are they going to get to the spot where that parking lot's done and then it's like next we hope on the the let's see then the road to get there then it's the next thing right yeah you know improvements all and then as soon as you do improvements then your next same planning zoning all the development that wants to go on that nice new road that we just created for recreation now we gotta have all these homes and now we're going to be on it because it has a certain standard of you know it is nice it's nice I know I like to see the city come come to the table on deep Canyon a little bit because it was some of their concerns I think that brought it to this group in the first place but we haven't seen a lot of of matching funds or support from but it's not a city from Minden they would love it but it's not within the city were there concerns mostly about getting controlling the traffic controlling the parking or was it more like hey this is popular uh some Farmers they couldn't even get into their you know it's real popular on some days they couldn't even get into there that makes sense because there were so many people people you know and I understand all that I'm not being negative you know being real negative because I just I'd like to see that the money perpetuates and helps a lot of people I agree with you David different Trails out there that people like to use and to dump it all into one project I think is kind of detrimental to you know everything and it's it's something that we see this every year we see it every year on the wraps so you know maybe we do need to spread this out more evenly because last year we gave deep Canyon a hundred thousand and what is your total ask did you add up all their total assets excuse me it's one better the other two for all of the even the yeah off the employees 15 19 20 and 21. yeah that does it doesn't bother me to fund that fully I I think of all the things you're good enough on this is one that's going to get legitimate use long term for I mean my kids will enjoy those trailers give them all to you all those numbers they need to respect your thoughts and opinion you don't fund the 14-5 that goes to the impact study let's see you know in government projects you know who the richest people are the engineers you know and Common Sense can kind of go up there and say hey do it this way for five bucks and you got a good project but engineers and that's everything has a study but welcome to government so no I I don't know I don't I just bother me to fund everything I just want to make sure that when we're looking at but maybe that that sends a message that this is one that's going to have to wait for a while we don't do the impact study and so on Let's uh if you wouldn't mind I say let's fund all of it and then I think this conversation ought to be brought up with the council too yeah that represents all corners of the of the of the camera you're so close to two hundred thousand you're 500 off of that I'd be just tempted just to say 200 000 and then let them allocate and play with that a little bit if they need to massage it because I mean you're right there just let's just give them the ask and then and that's where we'll be personally anyone else okay so 18 19 20 and 21 100 percent to each of those correct okay 18 I want to Circle this one
hundred and eleven thousand yeah 388 so there's about 12 Grand what was that about 12 Grand 12 Grand okay and I'll double check these numbers that was 12 to 16. correct okay and then let's leave the and then put that remaining portion for now on number 16. let's go with that and then we'll work through it that may be some a place that we come back and take from I'm gonna highlight that or add to it later okay number 16. six or are we round ing that's what I have 21 156. 21 156. okay good that that's a takes care of clear through 17 right pages that one on you see this is another one I think that we need to combine everything that's all projects all the trails yeah you have a total of all the ones that are supposed about two hundred thousand the cash County development services has control over that's probably is that we can combine and go from there I do have one 19 20 and 21 then yeah so yeah I do have just one clarifying question on the site in the uh the 18 is focused on you know basically providing funding for a couple employees as well as some consultant stuff I'm trying to think of Elsewhere where we're funding you know how how are are there rules or guidelines or Norms on funding employees oh this is interesting because four or five years ago when this started Reed and I were both here we said wait they're asking us to fund an employee this is just going to grow and expand sure enough it has well to be fair though this is the type of one you want to grow like to have this Cache County Trails growing that's true it's interesting that they have grown because that's kind of what you're encouraging is that to grow I want to I I love Trail the demand for use of these things is is explosive I'm a mountain biker I I I make use of trails I think that the staff in when I was an elected official uh the the things this group was doing were very helpful it just sticks out to me as a little atypical relative to what we're doing with the other funds there's nothing wrong with that it's just a question of uh at what point and I I'm whether you know whether we're intentional about supporting that and and that's the direction we want to go I'm not trying to say no I don't know I'm trying to to understand if if that was I know we've I remember the process very well you guys hear it very well and and if so there might be a well I gen and generally like the idea of saying okay look here's some funds please go build some things or or you know achieve these goals if we do have uh or more importantly ultimately the County Council has opinions on on this um it might make it worth it knows I'm a proponent of trails very much so um and I I use the trails a lot myself today did they have the second planner last year excuse me did they have a second planner last year there's only been two employees thanks the full-time Trails manager and they and the other one was a part time that we actually pushed it into full time but now that being said and what I am what uh what I have said in the past that being said I put down to fund the whole request Micah could you shut those doors for us please I'm sorry I can't hear what you said yeah okay let's shut those doors here kind of a regardless of what I've said in the past and regardless of what I just said I put down to fund the whole thing and I think I did because of the increase that we've had in available fights this year I I the only thing is sometimes I have a heartburn in funding certain things that uh or two specific certain trails are too specific and not General and uh really help one area one specific area greatly and take up a lot of money uh the Deep Canyon thing is are they always in the same area is that why well there's a deep Canyon project a lot of money that must be like they're that better be lined with gold you know well that one was never developed before was it that's that's pretty new but there were some you know you had such a huge influx of a lot of people going there and it caused a lot of parking issues and problems and to mitigate all that stuff it and the only way to mitigate it was to dump a lot of money and so a lot of money kept and it just seems like it's never ending until we get all the gold blade you know and so I I'd like to I I'm one that I love to see the money make sure that there's something for everybody and we don't hog it all in one area that you gradually build up in areas rather than sink at all do you feel like that's going to go away if or is that just gonna be Perpetual like I mean are they going to get to the spot where that parking lot's done and then it's like next we hope on the the let's see then the road to get there then it's the next thing right yeah you know improvements all and then as soon as you do improvements then your next same planning zoning all the development that wants to go on that nice new road that we just created for recreation now we gotta have all these homes and now we're going to be on it because it has a certain standard of you know it is nice it's nice I know I like to see the city come come to the table on deep Canyon a little bit because it was some of their concerns I think that brought it to this group in the first place but we haven't seen a lot of of matching funds or support from but it's not a city from Minden they would love it but it's not within the city were there concerns mostly about getting controlling the traffic controlling the parking or was it more like hey this is popular uh some Farmers they couldn't even get into their you know it's real popular on some days they couldn't even get into there that makes sense because there were so many people people you know and I understand all that I'm not being negative you know being real negative because I just I'd like to see that the money perpetuates and helps a lot of people I agree with you David different Trails out there that people like to use and to dump it all into one project I think is kind of detrimental to you know everything and it's it's something that we see this every year we see it every year on the wraps so you know maybe we do need to spread this out more evenly because last year we gave deep Canyon a hundred thousand and what is your total ask did you add up all their total assets excuse me it's one better the other two for all of the even the yeah off the employees 15 19 20 and 21. yeah that does it doesn't bother me to fund that fully I I think of all the things you're good enough on this is one that's going to get legitimate use long term for I mean my kids will enjoy those trailers give them all to you all those numbers they need to respect your thoughts and opinion you don't fund the 14-5 that goes to the impact study let's see you know in government projects you know who the richest people are the engineers you know and Common Sense can kind of go up there and say hey do it this way for five bucks and you got a good project but engineers and that's everything has a study but welcome to government so no I I don't know I don't I just bother me to fund everything I just want to make sure that when we're looking at but maybe that that sends a message that this is one that's going to have to wait for a while we don't do the impact study and so on Let's uh if you wouldn't mind I say let's fund all of it and then I think this conversation ought to be brought up with the council too yeah that represents all corners of the of the of the camera you're so close to two hundred thousand you're 500 off of that I'd be just tempted just to say 200 000 and then let them allocate and play with that a little bit if they need to massage it because I mean you're right there just let's just give them the ask and then and that's where we'll be personally anyone else okay so 18 19 20 and 21 100 percent to each of those correct okay 18 I want to Circle this one
is that I know what discussion that we'll have but the 14 500 study I'm gonna highlight that that'll be several hundred thousand dollar ask later so yeah no do engineers always engineer something so that they'll always go back to them and engineer it again is that how they do that this is the preliminary study I think that's the term trying to find that other one real quick which one on this page yeah we'll find that later so okay that takes us one of those others how about 22 yep daughters that you have pioneers score is on page two thank you with that one
is that I know what discussion that we'll have but the 14 500 study I'm gonna highlight that that'll be several hundred thousand dollar ask later so yeah no do engineers always engineer something so that they'll always go back to them and engineer it again is that how they do that this is the preliminary study I think that's the term trying to find that other one real quick which one on this page yeah we'll find that later so okay that takes us one of those others how about 22 yep daughters that you have pioneers score is on page two thank you with that one
or 30. 7 500 last year yeah it was like 7 500 miles any input there this is a tiny percentage of their budget it's super reasonable Off Alone it's got a lot of history I would I mean you're going from 75 to eight I would just fund it that's what I did I said give them eight that's what I have that's what I have also good um I didn't want to yell it out very much yeah that's what I've got too I uh I just I wish they were more visible I really do I wish they were more visible This Is the personal preference and I'm gonna just throw it out there I would love to see them get in connection with the American West Heritage Center and we do we expand the facility we put them together I tell you and the visitors out there and for them together I think a lot of that would just fit so good and parking and availability and getting it I think that would just be a great fit for them good suggestion good idea I would love to see a American West and then partner up somehow and then come come to us for some help on some things I just think it would just be a win-win-win for everybody but that's just me I'll let you guys make the suggestion to them though so I like it I think it's a great idea they're one of the few places that have no salaries in their uh yeah yeah good point yeah it would be too
or 30. 7 500 last year yeah it was like 7 500 miles any input there this is a tiny percentage of their budget it's super reasonable Off Alone it's got a lot of history I would I mean you're going from 75 to eight I would just fund it that's what I did I said give them eight that's what I have that's what I have also good um I didn't want to yell it out very much yeah that's what I've got too I uh I just I wish they were more visible I really do I wish they were more visible This Is the personal preference and I'm gonna just throw it out there I would love to see them get in connection with the American West Heritage Center and we do we expand the facility we put them together I tell you and the visitors out there and for them together I think a lot of that would just fit so good and parking and availability and getting it I think that would just be a great fit for them good suggestion good idea I would love to see a American West and then partner up somehow and then come come to us for some help on some things I just think it would just be a win-win-win for everybody but that's just me I'll let you guys make the suggestion to them though so I like it I think it's a great idea they're one of the few places that have no salaries in their uh yeah yeah good point yeah it would be too
I just I think it would just get a lot more exposure for them so okay number 24 sorry for the commentary uh here we are Logan City right okay twenty four Cache Valley Center for the Arts although Logan City owns the facility for the first of their proposals the scores on page one oh yeah that's right that's right I just looked Logan City got that one 24 what page one that scored really well yeah I did yeah it did I have a question what is being done with the factory mansion I haven't have anybody seen any work being done on that what on the Thatcher young Mansion over here improving the facility I mean yeah I don't know I haven't seen I believe it's on the historic register yeah and um they use it in conjunction with the Opera and there are groups that meet in there they have meetings and there are lessons given there as well there were music lessons given there okay I must be thinking of someplace different that's your young Mansion this way what's that place over by a Don Sante what Mansion is that on first East yeah maybe it's yours that's your mind I'm thinking of the wrong thing yeah you deserve a mansion yeah okay I I know what you're talking about now that's as soon as you said music lessons I knew what you were saying okay I agreed with their prioritization on these next three how about 24 then Barbara they really tally they really roll whatever they give yeah they imagine they do together shall we go with the hundred and call it good 100 let's go 100 then okay 100 000 on that one good and other ones number 25 25 is on page two of the score sheet thank you is uh they've got about 1.3 million in cash or receivable they had it showed income of one million 193. they show on their personal input in their application that they basically Break Even but again that 990 shows the 1.193 I'm not sure what they do with their money it's a pretty big operation it it is a pretty big operation it gets spread out a lot you know they have a list of all of the improvements that they need to make to their middle to their buildings you just to maintain it and so when you say what do they do with their money they work down that list and they replace seats they went in and they had to repaint the thing here a couple years ago they had to replace the carpet down the entrance way there's there's just the roof that building over 100 years old and they just celebrated their 100 100th anniversary anniversary yeah and it's a gorgeous building a centerpiece for for the Arts here in in casual AIDS okay and there's a lot of there's a lot to maintain it they have a payroll but they're very wise with what they do and they don't overpay anybody Wendy Assange could go anyplace else and make twice as much as what she's making oh yeah yeah and she is a real centerpiece to pulling that together we have a lot of volunteer work there too like with them so yeah okay so this is 25. 24 is still are we solid on 24 then yep thousand to twenty four twenty five I I had that one at 30 but I personally uh that's the kind of a 40. 40. I have 40 as well okay twice okay so 25 will go 40. good job and then 26 I believe this is their last one I wrecked I had a tan but uh that's what I put what did you put 10. Pages out on I'm sorry score sheet it's on page three okay
I just I think it would just get a lot more exposure for them so okay number 24 sorry for the commentary uh here we are Logan City right okay twenty four Cache Valley Center for the Arts although Logan City owns the facility for the first of their proposals the scores on page one oh yeah that's right that's right I just looked Logan City got that one 24 what page one that scored really well yeah I did yeah it did I have a question what is being done with the factory mansion I haven't have anybody seen any work being done on that what on the Thatcher young Mansion over here improving the facility I mean yeah I don't know I haven't seen I believe it's on the historic register yeah and um they use it in conjunction with the Opera and there are groups that meet in there they have meetings and there are lessons given there as well there were music lessons given there okay I must be thinking of someplace different that's your young Mansion this way what's that place over by a Don Sante what Mansion is that on first East yeah maybe it's yours that's your mind I'm thinking of the wrong thing yeah you deserve a mansion yeah okay I I know what you're talking about now that's as soon as you said music lessons I knew what you were saying okay I agreed with their prioritization on these next three how about 24 then Barbara they really tally they really roll whatever they give yeah they imagine they do together shall we go with the hundred and call it good 100 let's go 100 then okay 100 000 on that one good and other ones number 25 25 is on page two of the score sheet thank you is uh they've got about 1.3 million in cash or receivable they had it showed income of one million 193. they show on their personal input in their application that they basically Break Even but again that 990 shows the 1.193 I'm not sure what they do with their money it's a pretty big operation it it is a pretty big operation it gets spread out a lot you know they have a list of all of the improvements that they need to make to their middle to their buildings you just to maintain it and so when you say what do they do with their money they work down that list and they replace seats they went in and they had to repaint the thing here a couple years ago they had to replace the carpet down the entrance way there's there's just the roof that building over 100 years old and they just celebrated their 100 100th anniversary anniversary yeah and it's a gorgeous building a centerpiece for for the Arts here in in casual AIDS okay and there's a lot of there's a lot to maintain it they have a payroll but they're very wise with what they do and they don't overpay anybody Wendy Assange could go anyplace else and make twice as much as what she's making oh yeah yeah and she is a real centerpiece to pulling that together we have a lot of volunteer work there too like with them so yeah okay so this is 25. 24 is still are we solid on 24 then yep thousand to twenty four twenty five I I had that one at 30 but I personally uh that's the kind of a 40. 40. I have 40 as well okay twice okay so 25 will go 40. good job and then 26 I believe this is their last one I wrecked I had a tan but uh that's what I put what did you put 10. Pages out on I'm sorry score sheet it's on page three okay
you know they're basically they're all a lot of them they're all pretty well the same application right it's just a matter how they're allocating it I don't see this one falling too far in our priorities either but is this something where we should encourage them to file one application for a broader range of projects or is it better for us to have three so that we can say yeah this one works really well this one maybe not so hard because then if you don't allocate any of like enough they would maybe want about ten thousand dollars to the one above it or something the different applications even though it says this how they're using it specifically this is like marketing uh I think that maybe keeps itself it lets us to tell us you know that it's this one is different and that everything where they're actually kind of using their money so that we're uh you know that we keep right okay and when they put in they send in the bills and for the reimbursements and everything and this is what is specifically for so that we can only then we can reimburse it according to the actual allocation that's it helps the in the accounting gotcha uh and then it also fulfills the statute and we want to yeah we want to send messages sometimes that and the other thing is once they got these I have seen some of them that weren't funded as hard then they were able to actually use that application or use parts of it and then go to other organizations to make it a difference they'll still get what they possibly what they do like match yeah exactly so sounds good we've had some of them where we didn't fund and also then they were able to actually have a donor that came in and funded the rest of it and they were still got the prep project done in it it helped them on both ways there so uh uh 20 what 26 what do you feel right it's only four percent of a 500 000 budget I haven't met 15. which one are we looking at 27 26 26. we're still we agreed on 10. yeah we always ten okay I think they all said that okay yes it is first front page number one
you know they're basically they're all a lot of them they're all pretty well the same application right it's just a matter how they're allocating it I don't see this one falling too far in our priorities either but is this something where we should encourage them to file one application for a broader range of projects or is it better for us to have three so that we can say yeah this one works really well this one maybe not so hard because then if you don't allocate any of like enough they would maybe want about ten thousand dollars to the one above it or something the different applications even though it says this how they're using it specifically this is like marketing uh I think that maybe keeps itself it lets us to tell us you know that it's this one is different and that everything where they're actually kind of using their money so that we're uh you know that we keep right okay and when they put in they send in the bills and for the reimbursements and everything and this is what is specifically for so that we can only then we can reimburse it according to the actual allocation that's it helps the in the accounting gotcha uh and then it also fulfills the statute and we want to yeah we want to send messages sometimes that and the other thing is once they got these I have seen some of them that weren't funded as hard then they were able to actually use that application or use parts of it and then go to other organizations to make it a difference they'll still get what they possibly what they do like match yeah exactly so sounds good we've had some of them where we didn't fund and also then they were able to actually have a donor that came in and funded the rest of it and they were still got the prep project done in it it helped them on both ways there so uh uh 20 what 26 what do you feel right it's only four percent of a 500 000 budget I haven't met 15. which one are we looking at 27 26 26. we're still we agreed on 10. yeah we always ten okay I think they all said that okay yes it is first front page number one
yeah page one minimal asked but they're I recommended the full ask I did too and I'm not being partially it's just something for everybody right I think that's just 500 off that we did last year it's only 18 of their budget that's an easy 14 000. thank you we'll go 14 then is that okay yes yeah that's great good for me good job you know and they they're pretty Frugal they they and volunteer I down there everything's volunteered and there I don't think they pay us all except for some performance the concert is self-sustaining you know the concert's self-sustaining and you know when they have they'll have like a big a bigger name come in yep and uh and even that their tickets and prizes aren't very high no they're not I think it's they're not in it to push a push a bank account somewhere so 30. what page we on page three on that one I think the next two okay Men's Chorus
yeah page one minimal asked but they're I recommended the full ask I did too and I'm not being partially it's just something for everybody right I think that's just 500 off that we did last year it's only 18 of their budget that's an easy 14 000. thank you we'll go 14 then is that okay yes yeah that's great good for me good job you know and they they're pretty Frugal they they and volunteer I down there everything's volunteered and there I don't think they pay us all except for some performance the concert is self-sustaining you know the concert's self-sustaining and you know when they have they'll have like a big a bigger name come in yep and uh and even that their tickets and prizes aren't very high no they're not I think it's they're not in it to push a push a bank account somewhere so 30. what page we on page three on that one I think the next two okay Men's Chorus
yeah they're 28. yeah 28. I had them at one thousand that's what I did I put a thousand how much a thousand Oklahoma what did you put I put two through the I was thinking 1500. but I'm okay with what I would probably lean towards 15 before a thousand I don't know how widely they are heard and I don't know what I don't want to be able to make a good assessment I think all right that's why I ranked them down yeah we have a thousand or fifteen hundred either one works for me I'd say just throw a thousand to keep numbers around no it doesn't make any difference there you go let's go a thousand go from there okay one right below it uh right really about 26. this is the one this one actually they have two requests they have this one and they have number 51. it's a similar request same person making the request I didn't catch that um 51 are you sure it's 51 or 61. 51. out west string Academy and the youth cash used orchestras 31 and 51. didn't pick that up but that's the same they scored about the same asking about the same amount of money I didn't catch that either no I was asking right I actually put zero for 51 just for the simple reason and again the money is insignificant I'm gonna say I can't hear that much pardon oh I'm sorry is that it's talking about uh the string Academy put down here in their information that talks about the Oregon City school district has two classes a first and second year Orchestra so I'm saying if they've got Oregon City that's already providing this and they're doing it for a first year group and a second year Group by the time they get through that second year group they all know if they wanted to want to do it subsidizing the school district but I I think what they're doing at least okay could be totally off here because first of all it's my memory not a better memory and and but uh and and my kids are largely out of Elementary but my think that they were doing it as either before school or after school program so Mountain West strings is an outside group comes in uses the schools as a place and the kids come before or after but it's not I I would draw the analogy closer to you know a basketball program that that happens to hold their practices in a school gym but it's not a program of the school but but uh see this this one has actually states that it is a Logan City School District it says it is a Logan City School District program first and second year and it says which allows instruction to be personal and meaningful I took that as that's something the school district was offering now maybe if they're not offering that that's a different story but that says they're offering it here I I I see some of the discussion around this only being like one percent of a 318 000 Budget on 51 and on 31 it's not far off it's six percent of it but part of that to me is like that's the nails that we just spent on the Heritage Center or the fairgrounds like that's a small amount but maybe it's a principal I I would I won't approach it that way you approach this principle I don't I don't know enough about either of these two to say I'm one big old principle or not I don't know I'm wondering if we'll start to get a request from an Elite basketball well that's not for what this is right excuse me but it seems to me that a lot of money goes into sports right and not much money goes into music in the school system and I think that maybe they are in need of a little bit of an extra that's I think this is a lot like asking money for a basketball program but it's for Strings or for but we don't but we that's what I'm saying are we opening the door is this a personal Enterprise we're a music teacher as their you might easily be opening a door but is it for what we wanted to be for like that's I know if we have an Elite basketball group come and try to request funds I would be absolutely against that who's this opening the door you have a lot of that and that part but we already have a lot of that have an elite Festival we don't have a private not here I'm asking requests for money no not asking for request for money I'm saying that it's available they're they're solving their own problems there's a lot of that and they're solving their own problems and I'm I'm not again I'm on these I'm still pretty Mutual I'm just trying to learn the process but we don't have a lot of those other opportunities out there for music like in the Elite basketball court there's 30 places doing that commercially and they're making do in this court I don't maybe there's stuff out there but I don't know about it but I'm not in music world either so I don't know I'm just curious because for that amount if you could make some difference Maybe can I can I make an observation you're saying 31 and 51 appeared the same person did submit them but they have two separate EIN numbers their addresses are separate so I don't I don't know if they know each other I don't know what the connection would be there well okay as I looked at them separate I still I put a zero on the Mountain West string Academy that's what I did I did I think I would please uh but and then I did because I did fund the cash youth orchestras what was your reason for zero again the fact that it says Oregon City School District because the school district providing that for the not just one year the first and second year and then it talks about that they uh which allows instruction to be personal and meaningful so if you're getting that in the school district it's personal and meaningful what else do we need to provide them I don't know but Cass County School District didn't apply it right let's just talks about Logan City School District or Logan City School District yeah did they make the application or did it uh um the same concern that you guys are voicing here I as I read the application I I think the fact that there are enough concerns about this expressed by members of the committee that what we may have is an application that wasn't as well developed as as it could have been and at that rate it scored fairly though at that rate I'm okay with the um with not funding Mountain West string Academy I probably would fund the cash Youth Orchestra at least partially I had a thousand for them because and the only difference is you know they if there were a community orchestra that were staffed by adults and and they applied we probably would have given them something I would think um and and the only difference is that this one happens to be young people so if there's not the school potential conflict there I yeah I I'd move a thousand for a cash Youth Orchestra and if we want to handle these simultaneously then I would move zero for the mountain westerns okay I'm okay with that how much was it a thousand thousand for thirty thousand for thirty one and zero is that okay okay let's go a thousand for number 31. while we're right there which is right next to it we can do 51. and we'll put a zero for that one if that's okay or we're right there we'll pass it when we get down to it
yeah they're 28. yeah 28. I had them at one thousand that's what I did I put a thousand how much a thousand Oklahoma what did you put I put two through the I was thinking 1500. but I'm okay with what I would probably lean towards 15 before a thousand I don't know how widely they are heard and I don't know what I don't want to be able to make a good assessment I think all right that's why I ranked them down yeah we have a thousand or fifteen hundred either one works for me I'd say just throw a thousand to keep numbers around no it doesn't make any difference there you go let's go a thousand go from there okay one right below it uh right really about 26. this is the one this one actually they have two requests they have this one and they have number 51. it's a similar request same person making the request I didn't catch that um 51 are you sure it's 51 or 61. 51. out west string Academy and the youth cash used orchestras 31 and 51. didn't pick that up but that's the same they scored about the same asking about the same amount of money I didn't catch that either no I was asking right I actually put zero for 51 just for the simple reason and again the money is insignificant I'm gonna say I can't hear that much pardon oh I'm sorry is that it's talking about uh the string Academy put down here in their information that talks about the Oregon City school district has two classes a first and second year Orchestra so I'm saying if they've got Oregon City that's already providing this and they're doing it for a first year group and a second year Group by the time they get through that second year group they all know if they wanted to want to do it subsidizing the school district but I I think what they're doing at least okay could be totally off here because first of all it's my memory not a better memory and and but uh and and my kids are largely out of Elementary but my think that they were doing it as either before school or after school program so Mountain West strings is an outside group comes in uses the schools as a place and the kids come before or after but it's not I I would draw the analogy closer to you know a basketball program that that happens to hold their practices in a school gym but it's not a program of the school but but uh see this this one has actually states that it is a Logan City School District it says it is a Logan City School District program first and second year and it says which allows instruction to be personal and meaningful I took that as that's something the school district was offering now maybe if they're not offering that that's a different story but that says they're offering it here I I I see some of the discussion around this only being like one percent of a 318 000 Budget on 51 and on 31 it's not far off it's six percent of it but part of that to me is like that's the nails that we just spent on the Heritage Center or the fairgrounds like that's a small amount but maybe it's a principal I I would I won't approach it that way you approach this principle I don't I don't know enough about either of these two to say I'm one big old principle or not I don't know I'm wondering if we'll start to get a request from an Elite basketball well that's not for what this is right excuse me but it seems to me that a lot of money goes into sports right and not much money goes into music in the school system and I think that maybe they are in need of a little bit of an extra that's I think this is a lot like asking money for a basketball program but it's for Strings or for but we don't but we that's what I'm saying are we opening the door is this a personal Enterprise we're a music teacher as their you might easily be opening a door but is it for what we wanted to be for like that's I know if we have an Elite basketball group come and try to request funds I would be absolutely against that who's this opening the door you have a lot of that and that part but we already have a lot of that have an elite Festival we don't have a private not here I'm asking requests for money no not asking for request for money I'm saying that it's available they're they're solving their own problems there's a lot of that and they're solving their own problems and I'm I'm not again I'm on these I'm still pretty Mutual I'm just trying to learn the process but we don't have a lot of those other opportunities out there for music like in the Elite basketball court there's 30 places doing that commercially and they're making do in this court I don't maybe there's stuff out there but I don't know about it but I'm not in music world either so I don't know I'm just curious because for that amount if you could make some difference Maybe can I can I make an observation you're saying 31 and 51 appeared the same person did submit them but they have two separate EIN numbers their addresses are separate so I don't I don't know if they know each other I don't know what the connection would be there well okay as I looked at them separate I still I put a zero on the Mountain West string Academy that's what I did I did I think I would please uh but and then I did because I did fund the cash youth orchestras what was your reason for zero again the fact that it says Oregon City School District because the school district providing that for the not just one year the first and second year and then it talks about that they uh which allows instruction to be personal and meaningful so if you're getting that in the school district it's personal and meaningful what else do we need to provide them I don't know but Cass County School District didn't apply it right let's just talks about Logan City School District or Logan City School District yeah did they make the application or did it uh um the same concern that you guys are voicing here I as I read the application I I think the fact that there are enough concerns about this expressed by members of the committee that what we may have is an application that wasn't as well developed as as it could have been and at that rate it scored fairly though at that rate I'm okay with the um with not funding Mountain West string Academy I probably would fund the cash Youth Orchestra at least partially I had a thousand for them because and the only difference is you know they if there were a community orchestra that were staffed by adults and and they applied we probably would have given them something I would think um and and the only difference is that this one happens to be young people so if there's not the school potential conflict there I yeah I I'd move a thousand for a cash Youth Orchestra and if we want to handle these simultaneously then I would move zero for the mountain westerns okay I'm okay with that how much was it a thousand thousand for thirty thousand for thirty one and zero is that okay okay let's go a thousand for number 31. while we're right there which is right next to it we can do 51. and we'll put a zero for that one if that's okay or we're right there we'll pass it when we get down to it
okay uh number 30. 32. it's on the same page at the same page very top thank you uh and it scored a 29 and it is I had him a 50 funding on this one I did too that's what I did it seems to me it's a small percentage of people who are benefit from this okay so we're going with three is that correct three thousand okay on that one yes okay good okay 33. you're there hopping over because 1000 . um just the rhaps we're just going through the big book The burst we're going through the book here yes one at a time like we decided at the beginning you said that speech five that's page five have most of the way down there you go number thirty four to Thirty one three okay and they are requesting 80. uh 203 thousand budget about 39 of their budget we have I have some I have some uh a lot of these smaller towns uh they they I will say that they're kind of hurting everything they do every dollar you give to them is so preciously looked at because they just don't have the volume people but there are facilities that they usually put it into are actually used a lot throughout like the summer months I know on different things Town Parks things like that and they do pretty well all of their the labor is like the whole town gets together and it builds a lot of uh you know volunteerism community and everything as they do it I feel that way with a lot of these small towns in their projects and you know they don't have nearly the numbers in them but I I think that the in spreading things out I feel like it's still good can't at least touch something for all of them so and the people people are awesome so I think some of these smaller towns deserve a pretty good chunk of what they're doing Barbara did you have them funding a pool or would you have them funding say that again where did you have them funding they're asking for 80. yeah um I would I don't know I I would probably 45.50 so wear that right now I had them I scored this one a five that I may be an outlier on that and I had them at 65. um just the the fact that UDOT is kind of telling them that they got to get people off the road parking has a lot of weight with me in addition to the uh and and it is serving you know a lot not just Cornish but this that Park is a hub uh for for the bike races a lot of those kinds of things right good point I like that point I agree how do you feel you what was the final number no they have it they're actually out of everything from well it was 40 45 50 to 65. I scored him the number three what well I'm out what amount would you get them I had to move 50 000 myself that's fine oh you had him at 80. golf scores all right what's your final 50 45 50 we're anywhere 50 000.50 let's go 50 and then if you want to Circle that one let's go from there let's go with 50. 60 50 50. yeah okay 34 Four Seasons and they used to find that one from page two score sheet where we actually changed like three or four that have the same there were there were several theater groups that we looked at together right and tried to be comparable based upon the number of shows that the this one four seasons in four seasons was one of them and last in Prior years they've always had four shows yeah and this year they're only doing three and so I actually took the amount I think the amounts in the past that we've given them have been the range of 25 30 000 yeah 25. so I reduced mine down to 19 000. my recommendation for that for all three for the three shows three shows so on not for no on application 34. yeah yeah for this theater my recommendation this theater group my recommendation is 19. I feel good about that one okay yeah good 20. Four Seasons twenty thousand number 34. okay single 39 their next one in here does anyone need a chocolate break I'm halfway through mine I've been eating all along the way I'm gonna start eating David zooks here soon if he doesn't get back if you need more I know where we can get a bunch more well we forgot they were there I'm not invested in the company one of my best friends owns it so he seems to drop things off to me no it's good chocolate my compliments to the chef but I will I'll tell them that so wait which one are we on Burn Woods chocolates oh sorry
okay uh number 30. 32. it's on the same page at the same page very top thank you uh and it scored a 29 and it is I had him a 50 funding on this one I did too that's what I did it seems to me it's a small percentage of people who are benefit from this okay so we're going with three is that correct three thousand okay on that one yes okay good okay 33. you're there hopping over because 1000 . um just the rhaps we're just going through the big book The burst we're going through the book here yes one at a time like we decided at the beginning you said that speech five that's page five have most of the way down there you go number thirty four to Thirty one three okay and they are requesting 80. uh 203 thousand budget about 39 of their budget we have I have some I have some uh a lot of these smaller towns uh they they I will say that they're kind of hurting everything they do every dollar you give to them is so preciously looked at because they just don't have the volume people but there are facilities that they usually put it into are actually used a lot throughout like the summer months I know on different things Town Parks things like that and they do pretty well all of their the labor is like the whole town gets together and it builds a lot of uh you know volunteerism community and everything as they do it I feel that way with a lot of these small towns in their projects and you know they don't have nearly the numbers in them but I I think that the in spreading things out I feel like it's still good can't at least touch something for all of them so and the people people are awesome so I think some of these smaller towns deserve a pretty good chunk of what they're doing Barbara did you have them funding a pool or would you have them funding say that again where did you have them funding they're asking for 80. yeah um I would I don't know I I would probably 45.50 so wear that right now I had them I scored this one a five that I may be an outlier on that and I had them at 65. um just the the fact that UDOT is kind of telling them that they got to get people off the road parking has a lot of weight with me in addition to the uh and and it is serving you know a lot not just Cornish but this that Park is a hub uh for for the bike races a lot of those kinds of things right good point I like that point I agree how do you feel you what was the final number no they have it they're actually out of everything from well it was 40 45 50 to 65. I scored him the number three what well I'm out what amount would you get them I had to move 50 000 myself that's fine oh you had him at 80. golf scores all right what's your final 50 45 50 we're anywhere 50 000.50 let's go 50 and then if you want to Circle that one let's go from there let's go with 50. 60 50 50. yeah okay 34 Four Seasons and they used to find that one from page two score sheet where we actually changed like three or four that have the same there were there were several theater groups that we looked at together right and tried to be comparable based upon the number of shows that the this one four seasons in four seasons was one of them and last in Prior years they've always had four shows yeah and this year they're only doing three and so I actually took the amount I think the amounts in the past that we've given them have been the range of 25 30 000 yeah 25. so I reduced mine down to 19 000. my recommendation for that for all three for the three shows three shows so on not for no on application 34. yeah yeah for this theater my recommendation this theater group my recommendation is 19. I feel good about that one okay yeah good 20. Four Seasons twenty thousand number 34. okay single 39 their next one in here does anyone need a chocolate break I'm halfway through mine I've been eating all along the way I'm gonna start eating David zooks here soon if he doesn't get back if you need more I know where we can get a bunch more well we forgot they were there I'm not invested in the company one of my best friends owns it so he seems to drop things off to me no it's good chocolate my compliments to the chef but I will I'll tell them that so wait which one are we on Burn Woods chocolates oh sorry
I'm trying to multitasker yeah 39. 39. Iron City yeah that was down there on the it's on page five yeah okay this is the West Park they wanted to a quarter million dollars that's what I have at this time is a hundred thousand yeah I put 125. 125. I think 100. should we go about 50 of that project which would be 125. 125 Hiram uh number 40. jump the Moon I always like that name if you think it has kind of a just the name is worth something yes something it makes you want to figure something out right 125. I'm impressed with this organization their application is much stronger for me this year than the one that I reviewed last year which one we're right number 40. what page are we on what page you find it on your two through
I'm trying to multitasker yeah 39. 39. Iron City yeah that was down there on the it's on page five yeah okay this is the West Park they wanted to a quarter million dollars that's what I have at this time is a hundred thousand yeah I put 125. 125. I think 100. should we go about 50 of that project which would be 125. 125 Hiram uh number 40. jump the Moon I always like that name if you think it has kind of a just the name is worth something yes something it makes you want to figure something out right 125. I'm impressed with this organization their application is much stronger for me this year than the one that I reviewed last year which one we're right number 40. what page are we on what page you find it on your two through
and there we go okay no it has been interesting to see them evolve over the from their first application I'm gonna say you guys have probably seen a few applications go through for this over the years that's probably a really interesting Evolution yeah yeah I did I didn't I didn't uh I only had a I only put five thousand dollars on there I put 20. 13. I was 55 to 15 to 20. I gave him 10. I have no trouble giving them five I'm okay with it should go 15 then is that Phil k for 15. I'm okay I'd go as low as maybe 13 13 5 or something like that I'd go to 15. okay again County Council as you know more we go through those any changes and stuff like that we can share those if we need to okay 15 okay I I went at five but I am it could be my lack of some understanding on some things there so I like that okay we'll go 15. uh 43 two requests and this is for the Productions isn't it yeah yes this is for those Productions they have four shows plus a can it's gonna rank them higher until I stop Footloose Footloose I you know and that's during my in the 80s I guess that was 80s I think when that first yeah the title movie came out I went I remember taking a girl to that movie I would never date That Girl Again she was a sweet girl but that movie just made me I don't know something about it just weird and I don't that music doesn't that's just 43 and 40. but it will not influence how it is okay their second one ranked higher than this one for me I had him at 25 on this one but uh down on 43. yes I got 25. you got 25 I I had him at 15 on that one 15 on the second um the second I I put 25 on the first one and nothing on the second one I like their second one what application is the second one right and I did put 20 25 on this this one here
and there we go okay no it has been interesting to see them evolve over the from their first application I'm gonna say you guys have probably seen a few applications go through for this over the years that's probably a really interesting Evolution yeah yeah I did I didn't I didn't uh I only had a I only put five thousand dollars on there I put 20. 13. I was 55 to 15 to 20. I gave him 10. I have no trouble giving them five I'm okay with it should go 15 then is that Phil k for 15. I'm okay I'd go as low as maybe 13 13 5 or something like that I'd go to 15. okay again County Council as you know more we go through those any changes and stuff like that we can share those if we need to okay 15 okay I I went at five but I am it could be my lack of some understanding on some things there so I like that okay we'll go 15. uh 43 two requests and this is for the Productions isn't it yeah yes this is for those Productions they have four shows plus a can it's gonna rank them higher until I stop Footloose Footloose I you know and that's during my in the 80s I guess that was 80s I think when that first yeah the title movie came out I went I remember taking a girl to that movie I would never date That Girl Again she was a sweet girl but that movie just made me I don't know something about it just weird and I don't that music doesn't that's just 43 and 40. but it will not influence how it is okay their second one ranked higher than this one for me I had him at 25 on this one but uh down on 43. yes I got 25. you got 25 I I had him at 15 on that one 15 on the second um the second I I put 25 on the first one and nothing on the second one I like their second one what application is the second one right and I did put 20 25 on this this one here
Italian let's go 25 here and we may just come back to it but I think and then the other one is number 44 44. and I put them at five I didn't think this was the strongest application so it's on page two on the score sheet thank you yeah why do you have a zero I just got the feeling that we've got a group that is trying to same group but just trying to get more of the pie by submitting to Africa I I felt the same way I always thought that this is like one organization one thing I was kind of shocked that they did are they for two separate things or I mean because we just had a discussion on a small investment to see how the school year program goes and they are potentially competing against schools that are running their own theater programs and those kinds of things to the if if they end up drawing from the youth audience for their you know Four Seasons that's how they came about their affiliate basically at Skyview High School okay so a lot of them have done that you know and grown but they're well a lot of that is done throughout the year I know they utilize and promote a lot of the you know high school students that participate and help out and perpetuate and so there is growth from it but 5000 okay on that one for now yes yes what I'm hearing I hate to be too parliamentary procedure formal with everything if we can get a dot in the head we're doing okay the menden is passed down by Newton isn't it if I saw them did you page six on the score sheet
Italian let's go 25 here and we may just come back to it but I think and then the other one is number 44 44. and I put them at five I didn't think this was the strongest application so it's on page two on the score sheet thank you yeah why do you have a zero I just got the feeling that we've got a group that is trying to same group but just trying to get more of the pie by submitting to Africa I I felt the same way I always thought that this is like one organization one thing I was kind of shocked that they did are they for two separate things or I mean because we just had a discussion on a small investment to see how the school year program goes and they are potentially competing against schools that are running their own theater programs and those kinds of things to the if if they end up drawing from the youth audience for their you know Four Seasons that's how they came about their affiliate basically at Skyview High School okay so a lot of them have done that you know and grown but they're well a lot of that is done throughout the year I know they utilize and promote a lot of the you know high school students that participate and help out and perpetuate and so there is growth from it but 5000 okay on that one for now yes yes what I'm hearing I hate to be too parliamentary procedure formal with everything if we can get a dot in the head we're doing okay the menden is passed down by Newton isn't it if I saw them did you page six on the score sheet
47 47 nope that's no 48 that they have two applications yeah where's 40 Subs at the top of Page Six okay let's go to 47 first 47 meant it yeah 47 scored reasonably well at a 31. 48 um did not score very well at a 24. no it was I would say 47 you you've got a the importance in that filter station why don't we leave Legacy Park for another year he was saying do one but they're number one but not they're number two yeah I have zero on the Forty eight okay the same way I I wanted to basically we were funding every funding the entire park yeah and I I would the town needs to have something that they're putting into it I do love it's their youth Council that's what got me too that got me interested in that but but I almost feel like the the city whoever's that yeah it was like all right we'll let the kids and and it's clever I just uh and and would love to see you know something happened but but Mendon really needs to come to the table on on that so I I I I would you know I I like the uh 47 and and 48 I just struggled with even though I love the idea of the youth Council having some ownership and I I'm almost inclined on that basis to say to allocate 20 or 25 000 and say all right you're the council show us what you can start to put together with even just a small amount of money it's a big projects but it was something I don't know there needs to be some more I'd like to see again what is more of their participation in the details of the project but I had 50 I put 50 000 plus there on the 47 though you can almost fund that yeah did you full fund that one you think so fun last year we gave him 40 000. yeah that's for phase one of the sprinkling system for 2023 I gave them the same thing but it doesn't show anything from phase one to phase two so it's like we did phase one and now we're getting off on another tangent all right to try to do something else and I don't know what and I don't know whether that project that we funded where that is what's ever happened to that afterwards he sells into yeah when I looked at their last year they've totally completed their bid where they have the Circle B irrigation bid yeah phase one phase two phase three there's a 17 500 installation on each one of those identical amounts and I thought that that was something that they could work at from the city's point of view and so I took the 56 000 they're asking for and subtracted to 17.5 from it well I think they actually so that you buy them the materials and then they worry about the installation I forgot what I was going to say when you said that I'm sorry there's something about um they apparently are waiting to see if they get any money because they're um waiting for some trenching or something that there wouldn't be a need to rent some equipment for this project the city backhoe would be available for the project as well but they are using volunteers to make the improvements yeah my point is that but they've included that in the 56 000 but they request the full 56 000 in dollars from us but they say they're going to install so I took the 56. extracted the 17-5 installation to get to the we'll buy the materials for you you install it that's why I would give them 38. I mean when you pick that up yeah good so the what was your yeah what did that request on 47 then minus this you say the 175 to make 38 966. I put them down to 40. yes 40. let's just go 40. okay 40K on that one yeah one of the things that it did mention in there was that they it says that we can't uh ask for any more contributions from the city though from the town they may mention that you can't they can't go back to the town again they can't go back to the citizens of mended to say we we're trying to raise money for this project they can't do they they said they they said they they were not in a position to do that I thought we were always in a position to do that I think they call that raising taxes volunteer labor or things like that can come in and and and help with uh with the installation and then 48 I'm what do you what any more feeling I was not going to fund them at all I'm scared to give that kind of money to kids put that one at a zero I know I from the county to the mention of the county I would make mention to them I really like the idea of them getting behind this and and I really like the idea of their kids spearheading projects like this it is a bit ambitious it's a big project but I'm okay with ambition as long as it's backed with a little bit more this is step one step two I think there's a lot of future possibility there yeah if they break it into smaller pieces and get the city council to support them and what they're trying to do I could have mentioned this being a project that I would like to to be able to support and even that larger project for that town really ought to be segmented anyway yeah anyway no matter what just you know because that is a big that's a big project for free yeah for a smaller town so okay uh 49. and 50. and they're both Millville score sheets for 49 is four page four and 50 is on page six okay 49 scored a 34. I said let's fund all of 49 but none of 50. I have 29 29 8 on 49 too yep okay I had that definitely anyone feel different on 49 that's for 30 right 40. yeah so 29. 49 will be 29 800 right yeah but we just rounded through Naveen 30. it's hard not to it's easier you know you get 200 somebody takes a long break it's gone you know I'd be happy if they'd asked for it and then the other ones found on page seven did you say eight six page six pop over there real quick and that's number 50. and what's your feelings I zero zero I I had them for a small something but it's not clear how they'd close the gap and foreign experience with concepts of lighting and public projects is is the it's I'd like to see some thought given to how neighbors would react I don't know it's enemy driven but but if it you know if it's in the middle of a park quarter mile from anybody's house then it's much less of an issue but I um well they're asking for 80 of the project yeah that's a lot I'm okay with that with not funding that yeah I'm okay with that 50. okay yep we have so 49 was that 49 is fully funded yeah 29 8 yes and 50 was zero zero right now so 51 we've done 52. Music Theater West page two on the score sheet it's an incredible job puts lots of show the same show on several times okay too but the Echoes there and I have they're marvelous shirts they they impact a lot of people they seem to have a lot of people in as far as involved in this seems like a lot what I like about this is that their mem their musicians everybody's local people yeah right that's huge yeah it's gonna be the the I had him at 38 or 30 000 myself but that's what I have 30. okay I'm good with that any more than that though bill I I had a closer Authority because I think you funded 30 last but I mean I could go either way I'm just yeah no that's is that higher than where we'd been funding or are we being Equitable across these were at that 20 and 20 five I put these guys down at 30. they're doing a show more than the others I guess uh no the other one is doing the one is only doing three but the second one we talked about were doing was doing four plus the class yeah the classroom classroom training yeah so you had these guys about 30. is that okay 30. yeah on number 52. okay let's go 30 on that one uh 53 Newton town and that's on page five six yeah five five last chance number seven there we go page no page five yeah and they have a couple that they had two they had a 53 and 54. both scored a 31. yeah uh same kind of a pickleball craze is quite a craze I tell you is there a lot of people they're loving it they're loving it it must be a good thing I guess I I put I was a tennis man in high school believe it or not but don't dang it this is recorded isn't it I'm 54. I allocated 15 000 which was the cost of the equipment and on the pickleball courts which is number 53 I didn't allocate anything I allocated quite a bit more for the the pickleball or pickleball area 54 or 53 453 53 I had uh 40 on the pickleball and was pretty lukewarm yeah I in some ways I like the idea of of uh of the playground equipment but but the City ranked it as a lower priority for them and if it's got to be one or the other I'd I'd kick into the pickleball I think the playground equipment's actually come before us it's come before and they it was a lower priority band but but I I think the playground equipment if you take out if they kind of put it in themselves and get the get the things I I'd like that but I had personally I had 53 uh I had them funded at 45 000 but figured about half the cost of their project but I thought that was a certainly you're seeing these pop up everywhere no matter and as weird as it's you know Paradise all these places are it must be quite a hot thing to do because even in such rural towns it's still a vibrant theme so part of the reason I like this one and all of the it was the water parks I remember that there is something to be said though that these guys can't just go to the nearest town is easy like like somebody in Millville is just gonna go to Providence and play if their courts are full but when you're in Newton I mean you can make a half a day trip to do it but which I which I think is a a good thing that they but we aren't driving everywhere to go do something right like I I say keep it closer to home and give them similar amenities you'll convince me I I would change my money um take my money off the playground equipment and I'm willing to have a project still kind of uh for those kids I I want some money for the kids too well that's not a very big one technically you could probably put money in both and not it's totally bait to break it sounds like this kind of feels like I'm in church figuring out the budget for the primary kids give it to the kids yeah don't take money from the kids I even had along with that I even had 45 for the Newton and or for the first one on 53 and I had 10 for the other one but I like I was even I was nicer to the kids yeah so what are we looking at now so part of me wonders though like if you if five's not going to get them what they need and they're not going to get there is it worth just putting it all towards the the one and say wrap that up bring this one back next year as you're number one and now you're putting at your number two every time and I sometimes sit in their seats and be getting this like a city council and you go hey oh that's terrific we got we could We're Half funded now let's see if we can find some other monies they've already found some and let's put in another application next the next year maybe we can have combine two years hold them together with the money and then maybe and then get it done within the two-year limit that we have and uh and and still get what they need it just may take one more year for them to do it that makes sense yeah I go back to the comment that you made right at the beginning uh this year we've got quite a bit more like that and we can help some of these little communities based on population it's hard I don't want to use the term deserve they and on all of you too they're Merit but you know what I'm getting based on their population we shouldn't allocate that much to them but going back to what you said at the beginning I understand where you're going small community good people go ahead and help them out I'm willing to do that I agree because you know what those citizens contribute just as much they're the ones that drive into town they're the ones that you know go to eat here in town and I think they deserve a little bit they're not just sticking around home completely you know so I think they deserve a little bit and I I don't know I'm gonna propose 35 for the pickle Bill ball courts and eight for the children's equipment I don't have a problem with that I'd even kick up the children's equipment at 10 if that makes a difference in um in in being able to to make the project make something happen maybe they scale it back maybe they phase it and ask for one portion of the playground this year of course pretty close to half their budget okay yeah yeah what's our history how much have they received in past year I have not uh a lot well last year they did their ice thing they uh sprinkling system to use irrigation on the park um and that's the only funding mutinous requested since 2019 uh in in the 2019 to 2020. that helps me a little bit as well because if if they're coming to the wraps well once every four or five years and asking for once or twice every four or five years then that suggests that yeah we may fund a more substantial project than you would think for a small community in this year if they come back and ask for 40 000 every year and it's probably not going to happen but but and I remember them asking it was they were they were doing remember they were having a little icory uh well had uh they're putting down for an ice skating little uh wreath that they had next to their park and then they were going to use it for other things during the summer but it was they actually went ahead and did that and that was finished they I think it was turned down but they still went ahead that was a very a strong priority and I go now that's Community right there I think that's you meant that much to him steal you know and yeah they might still be using it right now the way the weather's going so so we're talking 35 and 10 was that okay 35 and 10 is good for me okay okay 35 and 10. tell me those numbers again three is 35 okay and 54 will be 10. and I just I just have the numbers in the name I don't have a thermostat Nibley Children's Theater I am a big fan of this one oh everybody will see where you live it has a little to do with that I have uh seen these guys go through the bruises they on page 12 where are they page two page two of the score sheet it's a tiny ask with huge benefits it might not be the an enormous group of kids but it's a decent group I scored them a five and I I put a thousand but I'm fine with fully funding it's it's trivial I think we funded the whole thing in the past yeah we've always been happy with that yeah it's always fun 12 50 then yeah whatever they ask generally these little things like this are they is this hell also is this kind of thing with another celebration yeah it's at the wrap-up of their Heritage day see and that's what the usually when something like this it involves a lot of people oh yeah you know to put something like this on Smithfield I think they've got the same kind of a little they do a big production honestly I wish they would throw it because there's so much momentum behind it and I think they're just so used to making do and they don't realize how many people are trying to come and and they have a little Auditorium there but they have way outgrown that I mean way outgrown it they'll sell some of those buyers right like I need to build some bleachers there you go so you got that one 12.50 1250 on 55. okay 58 that's what we do okay similar you know similar kind of a situation and here they're that town there is putting the whole Project's 175 000. asking them for 34 of it yeah it's really two projects and Ice if you fund the 39 000 you'll fund the art improvements completely but it leaves the equestrian open say that again yeah they're asking for 59 it's really two projects right on this park and one is equestrian and 39 000 is funds the part completely and leaves the equestrian open oh yeah so go like 40 and 39. I had him at 50 000 myself he had a 50. I had him at 40. on any equestrian inside there's only very few places in the valley especially in the South End where they have an equestrian situation they got one in Wellsville which can people can use but the one in Paradise is used all the time they're pretty far out by mainly people outside of the oh really and then it ties really strong with their celebration all right Ty's really strong with your celebration that you have and uh
47 47 nope that's no 48 that they have two applications yeah where's 40 Subs at the top of Page Six okay let's go to 47 first 47 meant it yeah 47 scored reasonably well at a 31. 48 um did not score very well at a 24. no it was I would say 47 you you've got a the importance in that filter station why don't we leave Legacy Park for another year he was saying do one but they're number one but not they're number two yeah I have zero on the Forty eight okay the same way I I wanted to basically we were funding every funding the entire park yeah and I I would the town needs to have something that they're putting into it I do love it's their youth Council that's what got me too that got me interested in that but but I almost feel like the the city whoever's that yeah it was like all right we'll let the kids and and it's clever I just uh and and would love to see you know something happened but but Mendon really needs to come to the table on on that so I I I I would you know I I like the uh 47 and and 48 I just struggled with even though I love the idea of the youth Council having some ownership and I I'm almost inclined on that basis to say to allocate 20 or 25 000 and say all right you're the council show us what you can start to put together with even just a small amount of money it's a big projects but it was something I don't know there needs to be some more I'd like to see again what is more of their participation in the details of the project but I had 50 I put 50 000 plus there on the 47 though you can almost fund that yeah did you full fund that one you think so fun last year we gave him 40 000. yeah that's for phase one of the sprinkling system for 2023 I gave them the same thing but it doesn't show anything from phase one to phase two so it's like we did phase one and now we're getting off on another tangent all right to try to do something else and I don't know what and I don't know whether that project that we funded where that is what's ever happened to that afterwards he sells into yeah when I looked at their last year they've totally completed their bid where they have the Circle B irrigation bid yeah phase one phase two phase three there's a 17 500 installation on each one of those identical amounts and I thought that that was something that they could work at from the city's point of view and so I took the 56 000 they're asking for and subtracted to 17.5 from it well I think they actually so that you buy them the materials and then they worry about the installation I forgot what I was going to say when you said that I'm sorry there's something about um they apparently are waiting to see if they get any money because they're um waiting for some trenching or something that there wouldn't be a need to rent some equipment for this project the city backhoe would be available for the project as well but they are using volunteers to make the improvements yeah my point is that but they've included that in the 56 000 but they request the full 56 000 in dollars from us but they say they're going to install so I took the 56. extracted the 17-5 installation to get to the we'll buy the materials for you you install it that's why I would give them 38. I mean when you pick that up yeah good so the what was your yeah what did that request on 47 then minus this you say the 175 to make 38 966. I put them down to 40. yes 40. let's just go 40. okay 40K on that one yeah one of the things that it did mention in there was that they it says that we can't uh ask for any more contributions from the city though from the town they may mention that you can't they can't go back to the town again they can't go back to the citizens of mended to say we we're trying to raise money for this project they can't do they they said they they said they they were not in a position to do that I thought we were always in a position to do that I think they call that raising taxes volunteer labor or things like that can come in and and and help with uh with the installation and then 48 I'm what do you what any more feeling I was not going to fund them at all I'm scared to give that kind of money to kids put that one at a zero I know I from the county to the mention of the county I would make mention to them I really like the idea of them getting behind this and and I really like the idea of their kids spearheading projects like this it is a bit ambitious it's a big project but I'm okay with ambition as long as it's backed with a little bit more this is step one step two I think there's a lot of future possibility there yeah if they break it into smaller pieces and get the city council to support them and what they're trying to do I could have mentioned this being a project that I would like to to be able to support and even that larger project for that town really ought to be segmented anyway yeah anyway no matter what just you know because that is a big that's a big project for free yeah for a smaller town so okay uh 49. and 50. and they're both Millville score sheets for 49 is four page four and 50 is on page six okay 49 scored a 34. I said let's fund all of 49 but none of 50. I have 29 29 8 on 49 too yep okay I had that definitely anyone feel different on 49 that's for 30 right 40. yeah so 29. 49 will be 29 800 right yeah but we just rounded through Naveen 30. it's hard not to it's easier you know you get 200 somebody takes a long break it's gone you know I'd be happy if they'd asked for it and then the other ones found on page seven did you say eight six page six pop over there real quick and that's number 50. and what's your feelings I zero zero I I had them for a small something but it's not clear how they'd close the gap and foreign experience with concepts of lighting and public projects is is the it's I'd like to see some thought given to how neighbors would react I don't know it's enemy driven but but if it you know if it's in the middle of a park quarter mile from anybody's house then it's much less of an issue but I um well they're asking for 80 of the project yeah that's a lot I'm okay with that with not funding that yeah I'm okay with that 50. okay yep we have so 49 was that 49 is fully funded yeah 29 8 yes and 50 was zero zero right now so 51 we've done 52. Music Theater West page two on the score sheet it's an incredible job puts lots of show the same show on several times okay too but the Echoes there and I have they're marvelous shirts they they impact a lot of people they seem to have a lot of people in as far as involved in this seems like a lot what I like about this is that their mem their musicians everybody's local people yeah right that's huge yeah it's gonna be the the I had him at 38 or 30 000 myself but that's what I have 30. okay I'm good with that any more than that though bill I I had a closer Authority because I think you funded 30 last but I mean I could go either way I'm just yeah no that's is that higher than where we'd been funding or are we being Equitable across these were at that 20 and 20 five I put these guys down at 30. they're doing a show more than the others I guess uh no the other one is doing the one is only doing three but the second one we talked about were doing was doing four plus the class yeah the classroom classroom training yeah so you had these guys about 30. is that okay 30. yeah on number 52. okay let's go 30 on that one uh 53 Newton town and that's on page five six yeah five five last chance number seven there we go page no page five yeah and they have a couple that they had two they had a 53 and 54. both scored a 31. yeah uh same kind of a pickleball craze is quite a craze I tell you is there a lot of people they're loving it they're loving it it must be a good thing I guess I I put I was a tennis man in high school believe it or not but don't dang it this is recorded isn't it I'm 54. I allocated 15 000 which was the cost of the equipment and on the pickleball courts which is number 53 I didn't allocate anything I allocated quite a bit more for the the pickleball or pickleball area 54 or 53 453 53 I had uh 40 on the pickleball and was pretty lukewarm yeah I in some ways I like the idea of of uh of the playground equipment but but the City ranked it as a lower priority for them and if it's got to be one or the other I'd I'd kick into the pickleball I think the playground equipment's actually come before us it's come before and they it was a lower priority band but but I I think the playground equipment if you take out if they kind of put it in themselves and get the get the things I I'd like that but I had personally I had 53 uh I had them funded at 45 000 but figured about half the cost of their project but I thought that was a certainly you're seeing these pop up everywhere no matter and as weird as it's you know Paradise all these places are it must be quite a hot thing to do because even in such rural towns it's still a vibrant theme so part of the reason I like this one and all of the it was the water parks I remember that there is something to be said though that these guys can't just go to the nearest town is easy like like somebody in Millville is just gonna go to Providence and play if their courts are full but when you're in Newton I mean you can make a half a day trip to do it but which I which I think is a a good thing that they but we aren't driving everywhere to go do something right like I I say keep it closer to home and give them similar amenities you'll convince me I I would change my money um take my money off the playground equipment and I'm willing to have a project still kind of uh for those kids I I want some money for the kids too well that's not a very big one technically you could probably put money in both and not it's totally bait to break it sounds like this kind of feels like I'm in church figuring out the budget for the primary kids give it to the kids yeah don't take money from the kids I even had along with that I even had 45 for the Newton and or for the first one on 53 and I had 10 for the other one but I like I was even I was nicer to the kids yeah so what are we looking at now so part of me wonders though like if you if five's not going to get them what they need and they're not going to get there is it worth just putting it all towards the the one and say wrap that up bring this one back next year as you're number one and now you're putting at your number two every time and I sometimes sit in their seats and be getting this like a city council and you go hey oh that's terrific we got we could We're Half funded now let's see if we can find some other monies they've already found some and let's put in another application next the next year maybe we can have combine two years hold them together with the money and then maybe and then get it done within the two-year limit that we have and uh and and still get what they need it just may take one more year for them to do it that makes sense yeah I go back to the comment that you made right at the beginning uh this year we've got quite a bit more like that and we can help some of these little communities based on population it's hard I don't want to use the term deserve they and on all of you too they're Merit but you know what I'm getting based on their population we shouldn't allocate that much to them but going back to what you said at the beginning I understand where you're going small community good people go ahead and help them out I'm willing to do that I agree because you know what those citizens contribute just as much they're the ones that drive into town they're the ones that you know go to eat here in town and I think they deserve a little bit they're not just sticking around home completely you know so I think they deserve a little bit and I I don't know I'm gonna propose 35 for the pickle Bill ball courts and eight for the children's equipment I don't have a problem with that I'd even kick up the children's equipment at 10 if that makes a difference in um in in being able to to make the project make something happen maybe they scale it back maybe they phase it and ask for one portion of the playground this year of course pretty close to half their budget okay yeah yeah what's our history how much have they received in past year I have not uh a lot well last year they did their ice thing they uh sprinkling system to use irrigation on the park um and that's the only funding mutinous requested since 2019 uh in in the 2019 to 2020. that helps me a little bit as well because if if they're coming to the wraps well once every four or five years and asking for once or twice every four or five years then that suggests that yeah we may fund a more substantial project than you would think for a small community in this year if they come back and ask for 40 000 every year and it's probably not going to happen but but and I remember them asking it was they were they were doing remember they were having a little icory uh well had uh they're putting down for an ice skating little uh wreath that they had next to their park and then they were going to use it for other things during the summer but it was they actually went ahead and did that and that was finished they I think it was turned down but they still went ahead that was a very a strong priority and I go now that's Community right there I think that's you meant that much to him steal you know and yeah they might still be using it right now the way the weather's going so so we're talking 35 and 10 was that okay 35 and 10 is good for me okay okay 35 and 10. tell me those numbers again three is 35 okay and 54 will be 10. and I just I just have the numbers in the name I don't have a thermostat Nibley Children's Theater I am a big fan of this one oh everybody will see where you live it has a little to do with that I have uh seen these guys go through the bruises they on page 12 where are they page two page two of the score sheet it's a tiny ask with huge benefits it might not be the an enormous group of kids but it's a decent group I scored them a five and I I put a thousand but I'm fine with fully funding it's it's trivial I think we funded the whole thing in the past yeah we've always been happy with that yeah it's always fun 12 50 then yeah whatever they ask generally these little things like this are they is this hell also is this kind of thing with another celebration yeah it's at the wrap-up of their Heritage day see and that's what the usually when something like this it involves a lot of people oh yeah you know to put something like this on Smithfield I think they've got the same kind of a little they do a big production honestly I wish they would throw it because there's so much momentum behind it and I think they're just so used to making do and they don't realize how many people are trying to come and and they have a little Auditorium there but they have way outgrown that I mean way outgrown it they'll sell some of those buyers right like I need to build some bleachers there you go so you got that one 12.50 1250 on 55. okay 58 that's what we do okay similar you know similar kind of a situation and here they're that town there is putting the whole Project's 175 000. asking them for 34 of it yeah it's really two projects and Ice if you fund the 39 000 you'll fund the art improvements completely but it leaves the equestrian open say that again yeah they're asking for 59 it's really two projects right on this park and one is equestrian and 39 000 is funds the part completely and leaves the equestrian open oh yeah so go like 40 and 39. I had him at 50 000 myself he had a 50. I had him at 40. on any equestrian inside there's only very few places in the valley especially in the South End where they have an equestrian situation they got one in Wellsville which can people can use but the one in Paradise is used all the time they're pretty far out by mainly people outside of the oh really and then it ties really strong with their celebration all right Ty's really strong with your celebration that you have and uh
where'd you let's begin later in the day maybe we're getting hungry yeah eat another chocolate over there we're so we're so close as we go down you and I are and I trust your judgment on this and going back to your comment at the first we have a lot of extra money this year that we haven't had if that's you feel good about that I'm okay with that I I just know that I'd go to their trout and bury days every year and it's awesome out there the guys are great and people are awesome they have lines and lines and lines and they do such an awesome job I think they and I know I've seen that facility used several times for uh well they have a lot of uh 4-H events and stuff there too that brings them they've got a lot of kids and Brenner connect still has this little competition like week before the fair too and that's that is like I dare you to park a trailer out there
where'd you let's begin later in the day maybe we're getting hungry yeah eat another chocolate over there we're so we're so close as we go down you and I are and I trust your judgment on this and going back to your comment at the first we have a lot of extra money this year that we haven't had if that's you feel good about that I'm okay with that I I just know that I'd go to their trout and bury days every year and it's awesome out there the guys are great and people are awesome they have lines and lines and lines and they do such an awesome job I think they and I know I've seen that facility used several times for uh well they have a lot of uh 4-H events and stuff there too that brings them they've got a lot of kids and Brenner connect still has this little competition like week before the fair too and that's that is like I dare you to park a trailer out there
so so where do we end up on that one did you say 50 days I said 50. so I'm going with that okay so number 58 then was 50. it was on page five page page five about down okay 59 Providence that's on I got that on six page six of your paper it's a decent score I didn't score this one quite as high but it sounds like they'll scale the park to whatever we the facility to whatever we offer I I had it at 150 um because it was just half of what they asked for this is their only request right yeah yes I have it at 150 as well okay I had a 152. okay ladies I'm fine I'm willing to go that way 150 also kids there's always regrets with uh I know Smithfield has one and Hiram city has one and they're in Orlando Smithfield's they've just had just an increase in we'll just other things and and it's also tied very close with other things where families can enter it and kids have been hit with with skateboards and you know out of control a few things like that that they're they're again there needs to be something for everyone that's where I and if the city elects to do that at the scale that they're doing it that's that's that's fine that makes sense yeah it's a good judgment I don't think they get as used as heavily by a lot of people what they think I think it's a small group of people that use those stuff but I think it does free up other things too like it keeps keeps it contained and if that's the only request that is fair 150 then okay okay that's okay
so so where do we end up on that one did you say 50 days I said 50. so I'm going with that okay so number 58 then was 50. it was on page five page page five about down okay 59 Providence that's on I got that on six page six of your paper it's a decent score I didn't score this one quite as high but it sounds like they'll scale the park to whatever we the facility to whatever we offer I I had it at 150 um because it was just half of what they asked for this is their only request right yeah yes I have it at 150 as well okay I had a 152. okay ladies I'm fine I'm willing to go that way 150 also kids there's always regrets with uh I know Smithfield has one and Hiram city has one and they're in Orlando Smithfield's they've just had just an increase in we'll just other things and and it's also tied very close with other things where families can enter it and kids have been hit with with skateboards and you know out of control a few things like that that they're they're again there needs to be something for everyone that's where I and if the city elects to do that at the scale that they're doing it that's that's that's fine that makes sense yeah it's a good judgment I don't think they get as used as heavily by a lot of people what they think I think it's a small group of people that use those stuff but I think it does free up other things too like it keeps keeps it contained and if that's the only request that is fair 150 then okay okay that's okay
you're talking about Richmond right yes uh Richmond this one scored pretty high I know they've been uh their their expansions that they have been doing they've been it's kind of tied up with a lot of the trails and car park and they kind of placed them in several parts within the city on their past projects or on this one you know on on a lot of times the expansions of city park all that stuff everything kind of seems to be tight and I thought that was kind of a unique thing rather than all in one you'll have like a small little Park area back up here and then there'll be like a trailers trail system or something that ties to another Park that in different parts of the city which I thought that was kind of that's a neat I don't say concept but it you know I think the good thing about Richmond is that when they do phase one I mean someone you're going to do phase two or phase three they go ahead and do us well it looks like that from my perspective they're actually completing the project before moving on to something else through the phases they go through each phase is that what you're saying I see I put down their what they asked for I gave them their ask 59. yeah I have them at 50 59 that'll be about almost a little bit close to 50 59 59 okay I'm good with 59. okay I'm a little lower 45 but I'm okay with okay assuming that I assuming we're going to come out okay you guys have a better gauge on that but this is a good point come back to it you know when when the lunch was coming uh about 15 minutes okay 12 30 then so uh 61 was 59 000. okay 63 River Heights down at the bottom of page five it looks like isn't it yeah right there is this their only application yeah yeah okay million dollar project best but all that must be all phases yeah so and I think that this 150 actually represents 22.1 percent rather than the 14-5 and I I only question I had and I didn't maybe I didn't see it but I was wondering what that 150 of this space to what percentage is that of just phase two or is that all of phase two foreign did anyone else catch that in there I think that's what I computed the 22. 1 percent for the whole project or for the whole project I think six seven that's that's what the whole million dollar project is the cost of the project I think oh so you came you took and instead of taking that million you went to six with the fat phase and they're asking about 22 percent of them okay so they want the 150 is the 22 of just phase two that that's okay that's what I didn't quite I couldn't quite I was digging in I couldn't quite understand that part of it in their application but so I'm I would feel good about that myself yeah how much well I think you could if you know you're talking 22 of the whole project and they're putting in the rest of it I think that's a pretty good project you're saying you think you'd fund that I'd almost fund it myself I've got it at 100. so I mean at on point five under the budget and time frame they say River Heights has two hundred and thousand and ready cash in a capital Improvement Plus the 150 from wraps and I I had the same I'm trying to sort out what the match really is out of the overall project um uh and and so uh let's see what what's the other the the cost estimate for completing phase two is 377 but is that counting previous money that went into something else on phase two or or that that's what I'm trying to get my head wrapped around but I I'm by the addition of a sprinkler system okay that's what it says is phase two by oh because of the addition of the sprinkler system so we've got a hundred thousand to go to this any other editions deletions what do you feel what do you think I I put down a hundred but if you want to fund the whole thing like I say I think we've got money there I think we're okay so far yeah he's not sweating yet
you're talking about Richmond right yes uh Richmond this one scored pretty high I know they've been uh their their expansions that they have been doing they've been it's kind of tied up with a lot of the trails and car park and they kind of placed them in several parts within the city on their past projects or on this one you know on on a lot of times the expansions of city park all that stuff everything kind of seems to be tight and I thought that was kind of a unique thing rather than all in one you'll have like a small little Park area back up here and then there'll be like a trailers trail system or something that ties to another Park that in different parts of the city which I thought that was kind of that's a neat I don't say concept but it you know I think the good thing about Richmond is that when they do phase one I mean someone you're going to do phase two or phase three they go ahead and do us well it looks like that from my perspective they're actually completing the project before moving on to something else through the phases they go through each phase is that what you're saying I see I put down their what they asked for I gave them their ask 59. yeah I have them at 50 59 that'll be about almost a little bit close to 50 59 59 okay I'm good with 59. okay I'm a little lower 45 but I'm okay with okay assuming that I assuming we're going to come out okay you guys have a better gauge on that but this is a good point come back to it you know when when the lunch was coming uh about 15 minutes okay 12 30 then so uh 61 was 59 000. okay 63 River Heights down at the bottom of page five it looks like isn't it yeah right there is this their only application yeah yeah okay million dollar project best but all that must be all phases yeah so and I think that this 150 actually represents 22.1 percent rather than the 14-5 and I I only question I had and I didn't maybe I didn't see it but I was wondering what that 150 of this space to what percentage is that of just phase two or is that all of phase two foreign did anyone else catch that in there I think that's what I computed the 22. 1 percent for the whole project or for the whole project I think six seven that's that's what the whole million dollar project is the cost of the project I think oh so you came you took and instead of taking that million you went to six with the fat phase and they're asking about 22 percent of them okay so they want the 150 is the 22 of just phase two that that's okay that's what I didn't quite I couldn't quite I was digging in I couldn't quite understand that part of it in their application but so I'm I would feel good about that myself yeah how much well I think you could if you know you're talking 22 of the whole project and they're putting in the rest of it I think that's a pretty good project you're saying you think you'd fund that I'd almost fund it myself I've got it at 100. so I mean at on point five under the budget and time frame they say River Heights has two hundred and thousand and ready cash in a capital Improvement Plus the 150 from wraps and I I had the same I'm trying to sort out what the match really is out of the overall project um uh and and so uh let's see what what's the other the the cost estimate for completing phase two is 377 but is that counting previous money that went into something else on phase two or or that that's what I'm trying to get my head wrapped around but I I'm by the addition of a sprinkler system okay that's what it says is phase two by oh because of the addition of the sprinkler system so we've got a hundred thousand to go to this any other editions deletions what do you feel what do you think I I put down a hundred but if you want to fund the whole thing like I say I think we've got money there I think we're okay so far yeah he's not sweating yet
put it at 125 and come back put a Starbucks it's in a location where there really is a lot of building going on yeah um okay let's go 125 and then we'll put a star by it yeah and I think it's always easy to get more but it's hard to take it back yeah he was just saying and he was like 64. Smithfield and they have three it looks like and so here the balance you're sitting at 2.7 million yeah remaining or it's remaining okay but we still have some big asses yeah some big asses
put it at 125 and come back put a Starbucks it's in a location where there really is a lot of building going on yeah um okay let's go 125 and then we'll put a star by it yeah and I think it's always easy to get more but it's hard to take it back yeah he was just saying and he was like 64. Smithfield and they have three it looks like and so here the balance you're sitting at 2.7 million yeah remaining or it's remaining okay but we still have some big asses yeah some big asses
I saw that on the list must be some history there so we got three here you know what but but you know I the relationship and I think we're really getting some cool things from the festival they offer I think yeah I can only do one thing Smithfield Parks which like 64 jumps to page A6 yeah they're on six and then the other two are on page one so was this the one that's on page six yes the first one's on Page Six and then 65 and 66 would be H1
I saw that on the list must be some history there so we got three here you know what but but you know I the relationship and I think we're really getting some cool things from the festival they offer I think yeah I can only do one thing Smithfield Parks which like 64 jumps to page A6 yeah they're on six and then the other two are on page one so was this the one that's on page six yes the first one's on Page Six and then 65 and 66 would be H1
and they're very different Smithville City Children's Theater on the first page is 37.50 I funded that one with the whole thing right yeah yep this one I had up under the hundred thousand The Pavilion before 64. that's what I that's where I started I just had some dancers and things okay what's up I had it a little higher but I'm okay would you have this one out the third one you said 66 is on page one of the scoresheet I'm okay with closer to two hundreds with the star on The Pavilion that might be when we could come back and look up I'm 66 are we okay we're oh it's 64.65 I know what you're doing on 66. 6 on on 66 or 65 no on 65 we gave 100 we're 100 on that yeah right yeah 66 I'd like to know what you did on that one before we go to 60. Let's address that first then so we didn't score that very high that's ubered that about 27. that was in the other books yeah that's the History Museum right that uh ah yes that's why I want to go there gotcha um they did rank this third in in the city's prioritization it's the lowest ranked one we've had so far it's 27. now we've had a 20.66. yeah I can't remember what I wrote a bunch of notes on this one six is on page one of the score sheet oh I'm trying to find it in my book it's under the boat yeah it's under the both tab from uh there it is okay I put that one at 50 000. I was gonna have fun that one on the museum yeah well then that'll change what I fund on the other one I've got that one as low as 20. but I'm not I didn't allocate anything to it it's a I've just heard a lot of the the sky the discussion in the town and uh is this another one that you would move from out there out to the not necessarily not with the kids it is it is specifically pretty well the history of Smithfield uh it's it's very Central to Smithfield's history it's how they're wanting to push this uh and uh and there's you know and I will say that city-wise they haven't come together you've got different areas of the city that are saying we want this real bad and others you know it's just but your elected officials which raise these you know it's it's all about the the creation and in the town and we're the health city is what they keep saying and they didn't that's why they ranked the one lower so that I had that at that and this other one I only have at a hundred thousand but uh I'm happy to move those either way well my thoughts are on the museum I think traffic's going to increase pretty much with the new Temple opening and this may be a draw to a lot of those people that are going into Smithfield that want to know a little more of the history so you know I'm good with 50 on that one to get it started I've got 30 on it but I can well maybe another 10. okay we funded partially at thirty thousand dollars on this project last year apparently then I agree with you yeah 30 again and what page do you say that one's on again sorry I'm jumping around First Mortgage yeah H6 is 64. I want to put a star by that I think I would like more to that so let's put a star on that yeah around 66. see it's completed wouldn't it yeah and uh now 65 or 64. 64 54 is on page six there and that one we've got it funded as much as 200 over here we have yeah I may be a little high on that 800 and I said I was thinking more like 100 but toward that but I wondered what the star works for me that may be more generous I had zero on the museum at 130 here that's why I wanted to talk about the other person we just spent that 30. and now I'll put 100 and I'm just going to write down we'll get phone call that's fine
and they're very different Smithville City Children's Theater on the first page is 37.50 I funded that one with the whole thing right yeah yep this one I had up under the hundred thousand The Pavilion before 64. that's what I that's where I started I just had some dancers and things okay what's up I had it a little higher but I'm okay would you have this one out the third one you said 66 is on page one of the scoresheet I'm okay with closer to two hundreds with the star on The Pavilion that might be when we could come back and look up I'm 66 are we okay we're oh it's 64.65 I know what you're doing on 66. 6 on on 66 or 65 no on 65 we gave 100 we're 100 on that yeah right yeah 66 I'd like to know what you did on that one before we go to 60. Let's address that first then so we didn't score that very high that's ubered that about 27. that was in the other books yeah that's the History Museum right that uh ah yes that's why I want to go there gotcha um they did rank this third in in the city's prioritization it's the lowest ranked one we've had so far it's 27. now we've had a 20.66. yeah I can't remember what I wrote a bunch of notes on this one six is on page one of the score sheet oh I'm trying to find it in my book it's under the boat yeah it's under the both tab from uh there it is okay I put that one at 50 000. I was gonna have fun that one on the museum yeah well then that'll change what I fund on the other one I've got that one as low as 20. but I'm not I didn't allocate anything to it it's a I've just heard a lot of the the sky the discussion in the town and uh is this another one that you would move from out there out to the not necessarily not with the kids it is it is specifically pretty well the history of Smithfield uh it's it's very Central to Smithfield's history it's how they're wanting to push this uh and uh and there's you know and I will say that city-wise they haven't come together you've got different areas of the city that are saying we want this real bad and others you know it's just but your elected officials which raise these you know it's it's all about the the creation and in the town and we're the health city is what they keep saying and they didn't that's why they ranked the one lower so that I had that at that and this other one I only have at a hundred thousand but uh I'm happy to move those either way well my thoughts are on the museum I think traffic's going to increase pretty much with the new Temple opening and this may be a draw to a lot of those people that are going into Smithfield that want to know a little more of the history so you know I'm good with 50 on that one to get it started I've got 30 on it but I can well maybe another 10. okay we funded partially at thirty thousand dollars on this project last year apparently then I agree with you yeah 30 again and what page do you say that one's on again sorry I'm jumping around First Mortgage yeah H6 is 64. I want to put a star by that I think I would like more to that so let's put a star on that yeah around 66. see it's completed wouldn't it yeah and uh now 65 or 64. 64 54 is on page six there and that one we've got it funded as much as 200 over here we have yeah I may be a little high on that 800 and I said I was thinking more like 100 but toward that but I wondered what the star works for me that may be more generous I had zero on the museum at 130 here that's why I wanted to talk about the other person we just spent that 30. and now I'll put 100 and I'm just going to write down we'll get phone call that's fine
I what's your phone number nope that's fine okay 60 67. page two on the score sheet
I what's your phone number nope that's fine okay 60 67. page two on the score sheet
we're doing good guys 31. hey what Pages page two painters and page two page two on this one I have a 25. Summerfest yes okay I skipped one sorry seven I would be really tempted just to fund this one they've had in the reports of the last two years two years ago they had a excess of 78 and they added another 43 to it last year that's right of access they had another 43 of excess no they they're they generated 43 more
we're doing good guys 31. hey what Pages page two painters and page two page two on this one I have a 25. Summerfest yes okay I skipped one sorry seven I would be really tempted just to fund this one they've had in the reports of the last two years two years ago they had a excess of 78 and they added another 43 to it last year that's right of access they had another 43 of excess no they they're they generated 43 more
in 2020 yeah there's 77 excess in 2021 another 44 in Exodus so they're generating more income each year than they are standing yeah and that's why I put 25. for me I have 20 25 myself 30 is the same for me when it's only 11 of their budget 25 okay yeah 25 okay number 67 to 25 000. 58 Summerfest same page yeah page two now they did they actually moved to the fairgrounds last year we gave him 15 000. and uh what was our ask last year well okay now I know you want to say it but we it's up to the if you you want to take public comment but we'd like to save the public comment for you know for the County Council and then you can rip them actually that really was from our transportationally so it was a it was a fake a rollover so to speak well I I didn't really I didn't see that before I didn't really take that into last year yeah last year they asked for 25 and received 15. right I'm not understanding comment on your uh so it sounds like last year is the accounting not correct last year I was asked the question of why there was a carryover that we had income oh that yeah that was last year's application that was submitted was actually from 2021 when our application was submitted last year so the big carry over income that showed under 2021 taxes that was last year was actually income that was carried from 2020 when the event was canceled and many of our artists had already paid their fees I came in not quite two years ago on Summerfest but in going back and looking after last year's meeting I thought oh my gosh I did think we had carry over income and in talking with our account they're looking at the questions that was income that was generated in 2020 but carried over to 2021 so 2020 generated a little bit of income did carry it over because of that was yes and that was all they wanted to declarified does that make sense but we don't even have a tax return on this application do we yeah so I didn't really we didn't see that that had been last year's question I guess it would probably wouldn't last year's question because this year they scored really high yeah 32. yeah I I was going to easily give them the 15 000 again this year but uh that's how I've kind of felt good I'm very vulnerable they requesting 20. I thought the requesting this year is 20 20. so I said 20 this year I I that's what I put down was twins I think there's I said it's funny you know that they're we're back up and going yeah or so there is a party I'm you know I love to see all these things back up and going and and we're not tied to a mask everywhere we go so give them the twenty thousand let's go 20. yeah I think we all were voting for the 20 anyway okay that's good the reason it went down was because they did have the carrier yeah that's what she's saying yes you go to 29 or 69 excuse me where are we at are we 69 Trenton what page 69 is on page four of the scoresheet and sorry here is another little little town that that everything is labor it's just a matter of shingles and repair and to keep their little town part going okay very well yeah I put full funding on that one me too everyone okay with that yeah yeah okay so that was 69 what page I didn't even that's page four thank you is for 69 we're not there yet because I'm still smelling chocolate
in 2020 yeah there's 77 excess in 2021 another 44 in Exodus so they're generating more income each year than they are standing yeah and that's why I put 25. for me I have 20 25 myself 30 is the same for me when it's only 11 of their budget 25 okay yeah 25 okay number 67 to 25 000. 58 Summerfest same page yeah page two now they did they actually moved to the fairgrounds last year we gave him 15 000. and uh what was our ask last year well okay now I know you want to say it but we it's up to the if you you want to take public comment but we'd like to save the public comment for you know for the County Council and then you can rip them actually that really was from our transportationally so it was a it was a fake a rollover so to speak well I I didn't really I didn't see that before I didn't really take that into last year yeah last year they asked for 25 and received 15. right I'm not understanding comment on your uh so it sounds like last year is the accounting not correct last year I was asked the question of why there was a carryover that we had income oh that yeah that was last year's application that was submitted was actually from 2021 when our application was submitted last year so the big carry over income that showed under 2021 taxes that was last year was actually income that was carried from 2020 when the event was canceled and many of our artists had already paid their fees I came in not quite two years ago on Summerfest but in going back and looking after last year's meeting I thought oh my gosh I did think we had carry over income and in talking with our account they're looking at the questions that was income that was generated in 2020 but carried over to 2021 so 2020 generated a little bit of income did carry it over because of that was yes and that was all they wanted to declarified does that make sense but we don't even have a tax return on this application do we yeah so I didn't really we didn't see that that had been last year's question I guess it would probably wouldn't last year's question because this year they scored really high yeah 32. yeah I I was going to easily give them the 15 000 again this year but uh that's how I've kind of felt good I'm very vulnerable they requesting 20. I thought the requesting this year is 20 20. so I said 20 this year I I that's what I put down was twins I think there's I said it's funny you know that they're we're back up and going yeah or so there is a party I'm you know I love to see all these things back up and going and and we're not tied to a mask everywhere we go so give them the twenty thousand let's go 20. yeah I think we all were voting for the 20 anyway okay that's good the reason it went down was because they did have the carrier yeah that's what she's saying yes you go to 29 or 69 excuse me where are we at are we 69 Trenton what page 69 is on page four of the scoresheet and sorry here is another little little town that that everything is labor it's just a matter of shingles and repair and to keep their little town part going okay very well yeah I put full funding on that one me too everyone okay with that yeah yeah okay so that was 69 what page I didn't even that's page four thank you is for 69 we're not there yet because I'm still smelling chocolate
all right unicorn unicorn 70 70 you got a page on that one somewhere working on it oh here it is on page two
all right unicorn unicorn 70 70 you got a page on that one somewhere working on it oh here it is on page two
okay what did we give these seven thousand in 2021 2022 they didn't even they had some issues getting the application in oh is that what happened yeah right yeah something that I should have remembered about them so they're asking for basically 70. two of them we're on 70. is that correct yes okay I a lot of students oh this is your worksheet yeah this is the one that's on page two for me very amenable to that so 75. okay with it Barbara do you mostly that because of how many people they're servicing there what is your major um yeah the service scene and I I have a soft part in my heart you know too this is a good idea um because I think a lot of kids even though Sports get a lot of you know attention attention there's a lot of kids that don't go into that and they need something to get them so that they feel important too so yeah that's why okay okay if you wanna the lunch is here so if you want to take a break attack the Opera before the operation or get attacked by the operator that wouldn't be a size 75 7 5 75 yeah right yeah yeah 72. what did we do so before you maybe before you start I'll kind of give you an update so the total allocation was 4 461 867 that was what's available we've done I think about if I counted right 50 of the 79 applications but I think five of them are still ineligible so we're doing really well um so far you've allocated one million nine 100 939 760 and you still have a little over two and a half million left but there are some big asks yeah we we're hitting a couple big ones right now so no we are I think I think we're so many left over we're doing well and that's good that's good we'll go ahead read and what we've always done in the past also try to cherish them over in case the county here the County Council as people come in and say hey why this or that or why we didn't get this or that so and we've got it'll be a percentage from Zoo you haven't today have you taken we'll have to allocate to the zoo yeah we have to allocate to this and that's usually we got to decide and that can be up to up to 10 percent example we need to work with that one let's go ahead I know this Festival of the Opera let's dig right in since where stomachs are full and we'll uh and this is a big one uh they have a lot of detail there's a lot of detail in it what's your feelings on there are two of them 74 and 70 or 72 and 75 right I think there may be there's three three there's four there's four yep get to the others oh they're over in the other sorry 73 74 and 75. but 72 and 75 are out of the this wraps yeah Let's uh let's address those if we can 72 scores quite well at a 33 75 if I remember scored rather low at a 23. um I I couldn't imagine not supporting this with the scope of of what they do and and the engagement with bringing folks in I think the question becomes the amount the second one I'm more lukewarm on and if if the score is that low I'm not I I don't know that uh that it needs to be funded on 23 or uh what page is 75 fine 75 is on page three 74 is under 10 000 ask and I really wish that they would stick within the boxes narrow it down
okay what did we give these seven thousand in 2021 2022 they didn't even they had some issues getting the application in oh is that what happened yeah right yeah something that I should have remembered about them so they're asking for basically 70. two of them we're on 70. is that correct yes okay I a lot of students oh this is your worksheet yeah this is the one that's on page two for me very amenable to that so 75. okay with it Barbara do you mostly that because of how many people they're servicing there what is your major um yeah the service scene and I I have a soft part in my heart you know too this is a good idea um because I think a lot of kids even though Sports get a lot of you know attention attention there's a lot of kids that don't go into that and they need something to get them so that they feel important too so yeah that's why okay okay if you wanna the lunch is here so if you want to take a break attack the Opera before the operation or get attacked by the operator that wouldn't be a size 75 7 5 75 yeah right yeah yeah 72. what did we do so before you maybe before you start I'll kind of give you an update so the total allocation was 4 461 867 that was what's available we've done I think about if I counted right 50 of the 79 applications but I think five of them are still ineligible so we're doing really well um so far you've allocated one million nine 100 939 760 and you still have a little over two and a half million left but there are some big asks yeah we we're hitting a couple big ones right now so no we are I think I think we're so many left over we're doing well and that's good that's good we'll go ahead read and what we've always done in the past also try to cherish them over in case the county here the County Council as people come in and say hey why this or that or why we didn't get this or that so and we've got it'll be a percentage from Zoo you haven't today have you taken we'll have to allocate to the zoo yeah we have to allocate to this and that's usually we got to decide and that can be up to up to 10 percent example we need to work with that one let's go ahead I know this Festival of the Opera let's dig right in since where stomachs are full and we'll uh and this is a big one uh they have a lot of detail there's a lot of detail in it what's your feelings on there are two of them 74 and 70 or 72 and 75 right I think there may be there's three three there's four there's four yep get to the others oh they're over in the other sorry 73 74 and 75. but 72 and 75 are out of the this wraps yeah Let's uh let's address those if we can 72 scores quite well at a 33 75 if I remember scored rather low at a 23. um I I couldn't imagine not supporting this with the scope of of what they do and and the engagement with bringing folks in I think the question becomes the amount the second one I'm more lukewarm on and if if the score is that low I'm not I I don't know that uh that it needs to be funded on 23 or uh what page is 75 fine 75 is on page three 74 is under 10 000 ask and I really wish that they would stick within the boxes narrow it down
of the application you know last year we funded them to the tune of 280 000 a year before it was four hundred and fifty thousand dollars yeah remember why the change um yes they needed ongoing money but covid interrupted their operations but you can't not fund them and have them go out of business and so we funded it at that level and my recommendation is that between all four of them we allocate 450 000 again this year back to where it was and 450 them laws more than it had been fun by the war in the past yeah it would in the past it was a like 310 350 then 450 and then back to 280. over the last four years okay one good question that we talk about the 280 because you look at their here they're showing at a budget it's hard for me to wrap my head around that we gave him 350 000. that's for their own thank you paperwork here well maybe the county came back and gave them more than what we recommended well that could be so that's what that could be we recommended 280 and they came you remember that yeah I yeah uh it was a I remember I think we'd be still in that meeting if we didn't give that other 100K yeah it was a it was within the council yeah but you know I will say on others another side and the other side is that over the years uh I think we have been of a big help and they've recognized they really recognized we've been a big help in keeping them they've had some hard times you know they they've had some you know there's some Financial hard times trying to get through everything there were some troubles within you know internally that they've I think they've got them fixed from what I they do you know that we had I say it but we had to push say you know what we will do this if these things happen they they change they they got it I think they did it real well Mark enzyme I think when he was came in did an amazing job and really bringing them together made them operate yes they should and I think you got they got the controls where they need to be so I'm I'm thinking that the organization is is a lot more solid yes and I think it has some strong strong feature so uh I the fundament that I'm I'm very much in favor you wondered about the one where it had a low score the reason has a low score is because the Utah theater was one of their problems not good decisions yeah and I don't want to fund that not good decision yeah no that's that's a very well said so so 75 and 74. yeah very very way down the list does anybody know what the capacity is seating capacity in there uh if we looked at it but I think it's four or five hundred probably I don't I'm not sure including about which theater of the Utah or the which the Utah oh the Utah theater oh the Eccles is a thousand I think wow I don't know I have no idea I should know so they're I think I remember looking at that in their application okay so you're our total request from them requested 670 and we gave him 350. this year they're requesting the 735 and we'll give them 400 then is that but you just suggested I I think 450 yeah amongst these I think if you I don't know I feel good about the 450 000 I think that we're okay I'm okay with that I know I know we'll get I will get another request are you going to allocate that through them or do you want to start at the top and go down to have some number that we can associate with each particular project and I'm I'm the 76 number 76 is it there's 74 no 74.75 yeah yeah some let's see no 74. I I sit there and I go I I wouldn't bun 74 myself and that's just a small little request but I I gave him a zero uh the 73 and that's that's a huge expense from out of you know the marketing yeah the the uh that that strikes me I like the idea of advertising it out of state and I think this is as much as anything in the portfolio here something that has the ability to draw people in from out of state that's like a ton of money for that um so fast I'm okay with the 450 overall and I would delicate well let me keep this and then I'll think about it what I I do not know the capacity of the Utah theater but what I was remembering is that they showed their average attendance at Utah Festival Opera Productions in the Utah theater and uh it's never over never over 300. it's always in the 275 280 capacity somewhere down into 150 180.10
of the application you know last year we funded them to the tune of 280 000 a year before it was four hundred and fifty thousand dollars yeah remember why the change um yes they needed ongoing money but covid interrupted their operations but you can't not fund them and have them go out of business and so we funded it at that level and my recommendation is that between all four of them we allocate 450 000 again this year back to where it was and 450 them laws more than it had been fun by the war in the past yeah it would in the past it was a like 310 350 then 450 and then back to 280. over the last four years okay one good question that we talk about the 280 because you look at their here they're showing at a budget it's hard for me to wrap my head around that we gave him 350 000. that's for their own thank you paperwork here well maybe the county came back and gave them more than what we recommended well that could be so that's what that could be we recommended 280 and they came you remember that yeah I yeah uh it was a I remember I think we'd be still in that meeting if we didn't give that other 100K yeah it was a it was within the council yeah but you know I will say on others another side and the other side is that over the years uh I think we have been of a big help and they've recognized they really recognized we've been a big help in keeping them they've had some hard times you know they they've had some you know there's some Financial hard times trying to get through everything there were some troubles within you know internally that they've I think they've got them fixed from what I they do you know that we had I say it but we had to push say you know what we will do this if these things happen they they change they they got it I think they did it real well Mark enzyme I think when he was came in did an amazing job and really bringing them together made them operate yes they should and I think you got they got the controls where they need to be so I'm I'm thinking that the organization is is a lot more solid yes and I think it has some strong strong feature so uh I the fundament that I'm I'm very much in favor you wondered about the one where it had a low score the reason has a low score is because the Utah theater was one of their problems not good decisions yeah and I don't want to fund that not good decision yeah no that's that's a very well said so so 75 and 74. yeah very very way down the list does anybody know what the capacity is seating capacity in there uh if we looked at it but I think it's four or five hundred probably I don't I'm not sure including about which theater of the Utah or the which the Utah oh the Utah theater oh the Eccles is a thousand I think wow I don't know I have no idea I should know so they're I think I remember looking at that in their application okay so you're our total request from them requested 670 and we gave him 350. this year they're requesting the 735 and we'll give them 400 then is that but you just suggested I I think 450 yeah amongst these I think if you I don't know I feel good about the 450 000 I think that we're okay I'm okay with that I know I know we'll get I will get another request are you going to allocate that through them or do you want to start at the top and go down to have some number that we can associate with each particular project and I'm I'm the 76 number 76 is it there's 74 no 74.75 yeah yeah some let's see no 74. I I sit there and I go I I wouldn't bun 74 myself and that's just a small little request but I I gave him a zero uh the 73 and that's that's a huge expense from out of you know the marketing yeah the the uh that that strikes me I like the idea of advertising it out of state and I think this is as much as anything in the portfolio here something that has the ability to draw people in from out of state that's like a ton of money for that um so fast I'm okay with the 450 overall and I would delicate well let me keep this and then I'll think about it what I I do not know the capacity of the Utah theater but what I was remembering is that they showed their average attendance at Utah Festival Opera Productions in the Utah theater and uh it's never over never over 300. it's always in the 275 280 capacity somewhere down into 150 180.10
now let me go back over here and I'll tell you what I think I'd probably suggest 400 for the operational of it right 50 for the marketing that's kind of where my head was something like that that's what I yeah 400 for the for number 72. yeah we go 472 and and then zero for uh I have I have a zero here on number 75 myself yeah you getting this is that what do you think what do you think yeah I'm good good so yeah and same on 74. I I don't see anything and then the 1500 one no but then put 50 towards 175 ask on number 73 and zero the next one okay does that make sense okay that makes sense 74 and 75 are zeros yes right and we're gonna do 400 on 72 and 50 on 73. there you go okay that makes sense 400 000 on 72 50 000 on Seventy three zero on 74 and 0 on 75. okay make sure you got them all now so
now let me go back over here and I'll tell you what I think I'd probably suggest 400 for the operational of it right 50 for the marketing that's kind of where my head was something like that that's what I yeah 400 for the for number 72. yeah we go 472 and and then zero for uh I have I have a zero here on number 75 myself yeah you getting this is that what do you think what do you think yeah I'm good good so yeah and same on 74. I I don't see anything and then the 1500 one no but then put 50 towards 175 ask on number 73 and zero the next one okay does that make sense okay that makes sense 74 and 75 are zeros yes right and we're gonna do 400 on 72 and 50 on 73. there you go okay that makes sense 400 000 on 72 50 000 on Seventy three zero on 74 and 0 on 75. okay make sure you got them all now so
let's see 72 foreign
let's see 72 foreign
number 73 there and 74 will go with the zero oh you're looking about your scoring sheet yeah yeah I made a bunch of it's just a gut that's a gut feeling but I'll bet you this 74 it gets funded anyway but not by us there you go you should keep track of that it's not much I mean that's a private person they participate with them anyway so we'll let them okay 77 7. this is on page three and correct pretty relatively low salary and this is up at the Ellen Echols where this is at the Ellen uncle's Right Center 77 dance Ensemble no they may be smelly we'll perform at the Ellen Echols theater form there yes yeah 15. that's 500 more than I gave them but 500. and I I'm I'm so I'm curious I mean they're only asking for 25 is it on principle like how like for me I'm just like it's not my first choice but it's only 2500 can they use it it's only seven percent of their budget I think I looked at the number of people that I felt that they were impacting 25 dancers
number 73 there and 74 will go with the zero oh you're looking about your scoring sheet yeah yeah I made a bunch of it's just a gut that's a gut feeling but I'll bet you this 74 it gets funded anyway but not by us there you go you should keep track of that it's not much I mean that's a private person they participate with them anyway so we'll let them okay 77 7. this is on page three and correct pretty relatively low salary and this is up at the Ellen Echols where this is at the Ellen uncle's Right Center 77 dance Ensemble no they may be smelly we'll perform at the Ellen Echols theater form there yes yeah 15. that's 500 more than I gave them but 500. and I I'm I'm so I'm curious I mean they're only asking for 25 is it on principle like how like for me I'm just like it's not my first choice but it's only 2500 can they use it it's only seven percent of their budget I think I looked at the number of people that I felt that they were impacting 25 dancers
total budget of 35 000. yeah 35-3 and they're only asking for 2500 of that I agree with you Cody I was gonna give them to be done for where we're at and yeah maybe see if it grows and if it if they never get their feet under them or well that's what I found kind of I wish we had a long track of what happened yeah that's what it was a ten years ago they were here but now they're here you know I'm sure they've been going for a while but I wonder what prompted them to say hey let's go get some more money I said we've awarded them three times in the past but we didn't award last year or let's see 2019 was the last one as it looks like yeah they haven't applied for anything for the last two years like that I don't know if that's growing or and you know that might be that now they've got got it back up and gone maybe Cove has been a thing could be and if that's the case I'd just be like okay fund it and go that okay yeah I don't have any grief about okay 2500 2500 that's good I'm 79. Utah so I I want to share maybe just a couple thoughts on this first of all I I love the zoo I think it's cool that we have it and it's hard for me to imagine uh deciding that that that wouldn't be something I'd wanted in in Cache Valley um I I struggle a little bit with the the last I know the the request on the Forum says to provide a copy of your most recent Financial audited financial statements and my concern here they did comply with that in the sense that they produced the most recently the most recent like 2016. um and and I I you know we we can't fund the full amount because the full amount is more than the 10 percent uh uh and and I just find myself feeling like you know once every seven years is not as frequent of an auditing procedure as I I I like I wonder if there's some way that we could make a conditional award contingent on a successful audit of the financial statement now what are you asking you said the most recent Financial is what 2016 is what sticks in my head I I that's what's yeah December 31st November 2022 the letter that I'm looking now oh the the uh the auditor statement the independent accountants review though is dated 2016. so I'm sure the the other form the tax forms I I presume they have to submit annually but in terms of actually having an audit of their their stuff performed they're not required to have an audit that's I don't think they are required to have an audit how how do you read the and I'm open I'm just trying to read the the bit that says um you should um entities requesting more than 50 000 must also include a copy of their most recent audited financial statements if they've had an audited financial statement I we wouldn't require them to have an audit no it would be they're over I don't think that they are required to have an audit by their regulations they're required to file a tax return but they're not required to have an audited financial statement that's different right it is different yes it is different and so they're not required to have a financial statement but they are required to file a tax return which they have included and they have submitted their what you're reading is the instructions to them is if they're required by their overseeing board to have an audit then we want a copy of the audit we should copy that down and put it in the form because that is confusing okay the way you said that clarified a lot I'm like I see what you're saying because the city has to happen off but when you're dealing with so much director indirect Public Funding right it would be wise very wise but they do have to have a tax return yeah and so you can see that's the uh you see they're balancing did you did you go through that yeah how do you feel yeah I like this I did not Grant everything that they're requesting but if you want if you look at their financial statement that tells you a lot they have at the end of 2022 they had the corner of a million dollars in the bank we have 144 000 in animals and stuff that they had purchased they owed twelve thousand dollars and they add Equity of 379 thousand dollars most of what they most of their assets are cash last year they had a net Surplus they generated 25 000 more than they said I mean tax return is there what are the things that I noted on their tax return which affected how much I was going to recommend is that on their tax return their net assets at the end of 2020 June 2021 for a quarter of a million dollars their net assets at the end of June 2022 were half a million dollars that's the big number right there okay and so they're growing and that was my comment that there's Surplus that they generated in 2021 of 61 000. and the Surplus that they generated in the most recent fiscal year was 255 thousand dollars so you think they should be more self-sustaining that really ain't important uh no I I felt that they I'm not gonna they're asking for 480 000 I said 160 maybe I had 160 myself that's what I've got something yeah all the people I just experience people in the room I don't see uh you know and I don't see any like big projects big changes big Improvement you know things like that they don't describe any of those which tells me that they're they're kind of just just keep going but yet they're growing in a financial statement yes it tells me that will you know is there something that that's all going to be done you know used for I don't know it doesn't say that in a plan of you know progress report they bought animals yeah I remember one thing I think it was a year ago they wanted to go buy a big vehicle what didn't they yeah and we said no I could transport type vehicle why it's all right there what do they need a vehicle for but uh I which I think keeps them that line what we gave them about last year isn't it pretty close I think I should give them 160. yeah we gave him 160 last year since and they were pretty consistent what was their request last year but I have 20. same amount yeah this year was 480. Oh last year last year I'm gonna go for the 10 at least the temperature of everything gotcha so which is they requested 160 how do you feel thank you it's fine with me if there's a way that we can encourage them to to give us a little more on the financial statements or I mean if it makes a difference I'll say let's go to 170 we'll pay for the audit just give it to us next year I'm an accountant and that's what we did that's what we do and I don't think you need an audit on this one okay that the tax return and the financial statement they've given us was adequate for me are you all right
total budget of 35 000. yeah 35-3 and they're only asking for 2500 of that I agree with you Cody I was gonna give them to be done for where we're at and yeah maybe see if it grows and if it if they never get their feet under them or well that's what I found kind of I wish we had a long track of what happened yeah that's what it was a ten years ago they were here but now they're here you know I'm sure they've been going for a while but I wonder what prompted them to say hey let's go get some more money I said we've awarded them three times in the past but we didn't award last year or let's see 2019 was the last one as it looks like yeah they haven't applied for anything for the last two years like that I don't know if that's growing or and you know that might be that now they've got got it back up and gone maybe Cove has been a thing could be and if that's the case I'd just be like okay fund it and go that okay yeah I don't have any grief about okay 2500 2500 that's good I'm 79. Utah so I I want to share maybe just a couple thoughts on this first of all I I love the zoo I think it's cool that we have it and it's hard for me to imagine uh deciding that that that wouldn't be something I'd wanted in in Cache Valley um I I struggle a little bit with the the last I know the the request on the Forum says to provide a copy of your most recent Financial audited financial statements and my concern here they did comply with that in the sense that they produced the most recently the most recent like 2016. um and and I I you know we we can't fund the full amount because the full amount is more than the 10 percent uh uh and and I just find myself feeling like you know once every seven years is not as frequent of an auditing procedure as I I I like I wonder if there's some way that we could make a conditional award contingent on a successful audit of the financial statement now what are you asking you said the most recent Financial is what 2016 is what sticks in my head I I that's what's yeah December 31st November 2022 the letter that I'm looking now oh the the uh the auditor statement the independent accountants review though is dated 2016. so I'm sure the the other form the tax forms I I presume they have to submit annually but in terms of actually having an audit of their their stuff performed they're not required to have an audit that's I don't think they are required to have an audit how how do you read the and I'm open I'm just trying to read the the bit that says um you should um entities requesting more than 50 000 must also include a copy of their most recent audited financial statements if they've had an audited financial statement I we wouldn't require them to have an audit no it would be they're over I don't think that they are required to have an audit by their regulations they're required to file a tax return but they're not required to have an audited financial statement that's different right it is different yes it is different and so they're not required to have a financial statement but they are required to file a tax return which they have included and they have submitted their what you're reading is the instructions to them is if they're required by their overseeing board to have an audit then we want a copy of the audit we should copy that down and put it in the form because that is confusing okay the way you said that clarified a lot I'm like I see what you're saying because the city has to happen off but when you're dealing with so much director indirect Public Funding right it would be wise very wise but they do have to have a tax return yeah and so you can see that's the uh you see they're balancing did you did you go through that yeah how do you feel yeah I like this I did not Grant everything that they're requesting but if you want if you look at their financial statement that tells you a lot they have at the end of 2022 they had the corner of a million dollars in the bank we have 144 000 in animals and stuff that they had purchased they owed twelve thousand dollars and they add Equity of 379 thousand dollars most of what they most of their assets are cash last year they had a net Surplus they generated 25 000 more than they said I mean tax return is there what are the things that I noted on their tax return which affected how much I was going to recommend is that on their tax return their net assets at the end of 2020 June 2021 for a quarter of a million dollars their net assets at the end of June 2022 were half a million dollars that's the big number right there okay and so they're growing and that was my comment that there's Surplus that they generated in 2021 of 61 000. and the Surplus that they generated in the most recent fiscal year was 255 thousand dollars so you think they should be more self-sustaining that really ain't important uh no I I felt that they I'm not gonna they're asking for 480 000 I said 160 maybe I had 160 myself that's what I've got something yeah all the people I just experience people in the room I don't see uh you know and I don't see any like big projects big changes big Improvement you know things like that they don't describe any of those which tells me that they're they're kind of just just keep going but yet they're growing in a financial statement yes it tells me that will you know is there something that that's all going to be done you know used for I don't know it doesn't say that in a plan of you know progress report they bought animals yeah I remember one thing I think it was a year ago they wanted to go buy a big vehicle what didn't they yeah and we said no I could transport type vehicle why it's all right there what do they need a vehicle for but uh I which I think keeps them that line what we gave them about last year isn't it pretty close I think I should give them 160. yeah we gave him 160 last year since and they were pretty consistent what was their request last year but I have 20. same amount yeah this year was 480. Oh last year last year I'm gonna go for the 10 at least the temperature of everything gotcha so which is they requested 160 how do you feel thank you it's fine with me if there's a way that we can encourage them to to give us a little more on the financial statements or I mean if it makes a difference I'll say let's go to 170 we'll pay for the audit just give it to us next year I'm an accountant and that's what we did that's what we do and I don't think you need an audit on this one okay that the tax return and the financial statement they've given us was adequate for me are you all right
let's see this here is basically for and it's hard reading the one thing but it's just kind of like for just ongoing operating expenses so you know if if they're if they're just doing off-grade expenses but they're still increasing then that kind of tells me that you know they're not saying that we're trying to do this in a phase one and we're gonna need some monies yeah to improve this and this here's phase two I guess it'd be good to have a a you know 10-year Five-Year Plan a 10-year plan and and start working right if they're needing more than we would like to actually okay let's then put so much money to help them in this phase one to get this particular part of the project done you know and if they're wanting to expand or improve or change you know we don't know that yeah it doesn't say that but interesting under 160 it's okay they're in education as well and it's difficult to notice how much they want to allocate for that yeah still 160
let's see this here is basically for and it's hard reading the one thing but it's just kind of like for just ongoing operating expenses so you know if if they're if they're just doing off-grade expenses but they're still increasing then that kind of tells me that you know they're not saying that we're trying to do this in a phase one and we're gonna need some monies yeah to improve this and this here's phase two I guess it'd be good to have a a you know 10-year Five-Year Plan a 10-year plan and and start working right if they're needing more than we would like to actually okay let's then put so much money to help them in this phase one to get this particular part of the project done you know and if they're wanting to expand or improve or change you know we don't know that yeah it doesn't say that but interesting under 160 it's okay they're in education as well and it's difficult to notice how much they want to allocate for that yeah still 160
oh where's my what I do with my Zoo it's on the very back yeah Okay Jade got it okay hey that book's done guys now we're working on both number one uh amalga change books yeah new book yeah Page Six score 29. a 12 000 upgrade they've uh they've actually been fairly consistent in asking and they've had a little Improvement here and an improvement there a little small town yeah we're back at that small town situation four or fifty percent of their twenty four thousand dollar budget twelve thousand Millions and they're looking at doing the and it's about fifty percent ask of what they they need and they're put they do put a lot into it I I think I would feel okay give them the 12. okay for me twelve thousand is that okay yep hang on hurry hurry next one okay that's it bye number 19. now let's go let's hurry and get going yeah that's fine okay number nine seventeen or twelve twelve twelve thousand for number one number one where are you at now I'm at 19. is that right yeah and didn't we already cash development we've done that one yeah that one yeah that one's done 20 we've done we've got all the way through 23. okay 20's done how about 21. yeah yep 20 let me go to 42. here's Logan City Arts Recreation of the 2.3 million dollar project and scored well 33. I'd like to hey this is our project this is what we really want to do approach oh yeah um sorry they do have it in phases I gave it the whole thing I did too it was page for you know with their portion of it I yeah it's going to give it the whole 475. I like that project not that I don't mind Logan's the contributions from residents of Logan City to the whole wraps program are so substantial that yeah I'm all for it that's reasonable to go to four state is that okay then you think or okay 475. I didn't even see where that one was paid for almost the bottom thank you yep so number 42 Logan is fully funded fully funded or 75. okay good now I'm out there 66 hope we've done that one yes and 78 Wellsville we have not done I thought that was kind of minimal I'm thinking that whoever did the Wellsville really goofed up
oh where's my what I do with my Zoo it's on the very back yeah Okay Jade got it okay hey that book's done guys now we're working on both number one uh amalga change books yeah new book yeah Page Six score 29. a 12 000 upgrade they've uh they've actually been fairly consistent in asking and they've had a little Improvement here and an improvement there a little small town yeah we're back at that small town situation four or fifty percent of their twenty four thousand dollar budget twelve thousand Millions and they're looking at doing the and it's about fifty percent ask of what they they need and they're put they do put a lot into it I I think I would feel okay give them the 12. okay for me twelve thousand is that okay yep hang on hurry hurry next one okay that's it bye number 19. now let's go let's hurry and get going yeah that's fine okay number nine seventeen or twelve twelve twelve thousand for number one number one where are you at now I'm at 19. is that right yeah and didn't we already cash development we've done that one yeah that one yeah that one's done 20 we've done we've got all the way through 23. okay 20's done how about 21. yeah yep 20 let me go to 42. here's Logan City Arts Recreation of the 2.3 million dollar project and scored well 33. I'd like to hey this is our project this is what we really want to do approach oh yeah um sorry they do have it in phases I gave it the whole thing I did too it was page for you know with their portion of it I yeah it's going to give it the whole 475. I like that project not that I don't mind Logan's the contributions from residents of Logan City to the whole wraps program are so substantial that yeah I'm all for it that's reasonable to go to four state is that okay then you think or okay 475. I didn't even see where that one was paid for almost the bottom thank you yep so number 42 Logan is fully funded fully funded or 75. okay good now I'm out there 66 hope we've done that one yes and 78 Wellsville we have not done I thought that was kind of minimal I'm thinking that whoever did the Wellsville really goofed up
they goofed up they made a mistake when they submitted their application to I mean they've been to Wellsville and seen the Tabernacle fifty eight hundred dollars is not you know gives you hardly anything for what they need for what yeah it's a 13 it's a thirteen thousand eight hundred dollar project a big project and only half of it 42 percent and it talks about just it's an outside exterior maintenance project for me that's probably a conservative number I wonder what they're doing is it just kind of like uh maybe just a slight a painting or said they just need to catch up on some stuff that hadn't been because they did put well they put a whole bunch of money in it just the we did give them a bunch of money the last couple 39 last year quite a bit but but that wasn't going to maintenance on this I think it was we did it's maybe been a few years I thought we did have I thought we had something a few years ago we did they did put some money into the Tabernacle didn't they this here we didn't give them anything but it seems to me that we did but I cannot remember exactly 39 000. I show 39 but last year and in their application they don't say they had anything last year because the money okay ah I do remember that was different okay okay there you go and that's what held up all the fun so nothing was I remember saying nothing they didn't address to maintenance on this building for a while to me that's a conservative number to do any maintenance but if you'll when you read that there's a lot of donated labor it helps a lot of you know you work in there looks like there are a lot you there you've got fifteen hundred dollars to rent that boom lift you know that apparently beyond that and maybe that's that's probably the volunteer that works I think they're doing it step by step too so yeah I'd fund the whole thing around do you no I like it gentlemen I funded the whole thing okay fund the whole thing 78 got 5800.
they goofed up they made a mistake when they submitted their application to I mean they've been to Wellsville and seen the Tabernacle fifty eight hundred dollars is not you know gives you hardly anything for what they need for what yeah it's a 13 it's a thirteen thousand eight hundred dollar project a big project and only half of it 42 percent and it talks about just it's an outside exterior maintenance project for me that's probably a conservative number I wonder what they're doing is it just kind of like uh maybe just a slight a painting or said they just need to catch up on some stuff that hadn't been because they did put well they put a whole bunch of money in it just the we did give them a bunch of money the last couple 39 last year quite a bit but but that wasn't going to maintenance on this I think it was we did it's maybe been a few years I thought we did have I thought we had something a few years ago we did they did put some money into the Tabernacle didn't they this here we didn't give them anything but it seems to me that we did but I cannot remember exactly 39 000. I show 39 but last year and in their application they don't say they had anything last year because the money okay ah I do remember that was different okay okay there you go and that's what held up all the fun so nothing was I remember saying nothing they didn't address to maintenance on this building for a while to me that's a conservative number to do any maintenance but if you'll when you read that there's a lot of donated labor it helps a lot of you know you work in there looks like there are a lot you there you've got fifteen hundred dollars to rent that boom lift you know that apparently beyond that and maybe that's that's probably the volunteer that works I think they're doing it step by step too so yeah I'd fund the whole thing around do you no I like it gentlemen I funded the whole thing okay fund the whole thing 78 got 5800.
5800 to number 78 yeah okay now we're at bear Community Services
5800 to number 78 yeah okay now we're at bear Community Services
nope number five oh number five oh yeah just next right there very last page funded into foreseeable path I can't find it I don't think we even got an application with anything coming that way of the original score sheet first one under tourism promotion promotion I had a hard time stupid wrapping my vision around this thing I am yeah they're a digital that's where yeah documentation of History are they I mean are they digitalizing and throwing history yeah they're going to have like an interpretive thing where it's digital as they go from points I don't know that's that's quite good Heritage area has been dedicated to Equitable cultural heritage tourism I want a definition one of you I dare you what is I don't know I gave it My Best Girl uh first of all Professor thank you calm down Bear River Heritage area is much broader than Cache County uh it all it Incorporated several areas in Northern Utah and I I didn't I'm not sure I had to clear understanding from the application that the funds would be restricted to Cache County specific tourism promotion and that's something I would have liked to see in the application if I was going to be supportive um and it it like I think we're on the same wavelength here Dave that the uh it feels more like development of digitized History capacity than something that directly promotes tourism to me so this one scored very low for me um and and it's not a high priority for funding um a better application next year that showed directly how an activity that they Pro proposed to undertake would bring people into Cache Valley I would be open to supporting the organization but I I don't see in this application a proposal that that supports tourism promotion to Cass County in a compelling enough way for me to recommend funding you're saying zero yeah I went on a look I agree with that did you look at their website I did I did I looked at the website and it honestly it looked to me like this is somebody who's looking for a job I was a little more favorable maybe than that uh if I'm looking at the website uh but but you've been in politics yeah
nope number five oh number five oh yeah just next right there very last page funded into foreseeable path I can't find it I don't think we even got an application with anything coming that way of the original score sheet first one under tourism promotion promotion I had a hard time stupid wrapping my vision around this thing I am yeah they're a digital that's where yeah documentation of History are they I mean are they digitalizing and throwing history yeah they're going to have like an interpretive thing where it's digital as they go from points I don't know that's that's quite good Heritage area has been dedicated to Equitable cultural heritage tourism I want a definition one of you I dare you what is I don't know I gave it My Best Girl uh first of all Professor thank you calm down Bear River Heritage area is much broader than Cache County uh it all it Incorporated several areas in Northern Utah and I I didn't I'm not sure I had to clear understanding from the application that the funds would be restricted to Cache County specific tourism promotion and that's something I would have liked to see in the application if I was going to be supportive um and it it like I think we're on the same wavelength here Dave that the uh it feels more like development of digitized History capacity than something that directly promotes tourism to me so this one scored very low for me um and and it's not a high priority for funding um a better application next year that showed directly how an activity that they Pro proposed to undertake would bring people into Cache Valley I would be open to supporting the organization but I I don't see in this application a proposal that that supports tourism promotion to Cass County in a compelling enough way for me to recommend funding you're saying zero yeah I went on a look I agree with that did you look at their website I did I did I looked at the website and it honestly it looked to me like this is somebody who's looking for a job I was a little more favorable maybe than that uh if I'm looking at the website uh but but you've been in politics yeah
I I just I didn't see the link to the purposes of the program the the funding uh purposes of this program so I I I I was confused are we all confused meaning trying to understand the just the application without going to the website I said they're going okay nothing blowed nothing really came to me I thought okay there's no specific saying well we we promote this we put this mailing out we do we're on Facebook I didn't anything that really told me what are you actually getting out of what you're doing right this may be their first application and they may be going through a learning process on on how the funding works again I'd be happy to review another application from them in the future the the website looked like uh they've sat down and pulled from a variety of places to put together this website and then there was a space that says photos coming photos County and photos coming and that's what that's the last location was for yeah well somebody's going to pay me to go out and take a picture now to put in this website but I'm with you I don't know if anybody would find a website unless they were actually looking maybe to come here and then it would give them a little bit of background yeah yeah I think uh do you mind if my proposal is zero yeah until we get further a better idea of everything that yeah okay let's go with uh Cache County building and grounds number 10. yeah now that's for the the electrical out front here right along between the buildings in with nature of the farmers market that they have oh that's right because it's a new life called me a wise thing to do as he continues to grow they're going to need that electrical power now may be a good time to put it into effect it's a busy place here on Saturday during the summer yep it's a very big ass for what we've given them in the past I believe that's probably the entire project the entire project but last year's project her project was 385 thousand so 9 500. tourism promotion the right place for for this project The Gardener's Market is I guess tourism okay and a lot of the events that they would bring in would be related to tourism tourism okay okay clarify this somebody who knows would this work also for for cars electric cars no no like 110 special connections for an electric car yeah this is just power um for you know sound systems um anything food trucks stuff like that electric cars are a separate specific I'm thinking the 9500 it seems like a low bill for putting those kind of things in but I think they must not have to go very far because we just barely to the South redid that whole pedestal electrical area right there and so you might not have to go that far and be able to do this and that's why it's so cheap uh should we fund it I'm good with it 9 500. and 11. why is your office this efficient we did 11. we've done 11. oh I'm sorry yeah well well I've done 12 and where do we go with the 28 23 Cruise
I I just I didn't see the link to the purposes of the program the the funding uh purposes of this program so I I I I was confused are we all confused meaning trying to understand the just the application without going to the website I said they're going okay nothing blowed nothing really came to me I thought okay there's no specific saying well we we promote this we put this mailing out we do we're on Facebook I didn't anything that really told me what are you actually getting out of what you're doing right this may be their first application and they may be going through a learning process on on how the funding works again I'd be happy to review another application from them in the future the the website looked like uh they've sat down and pulled from a variety of places to put together this website and then there was a space that says photos coming photos County and photos coming and that's what that's the last location was for yeah well somebody's going to pay me to go out and take a picture now to put in this website but I'm with you I don't know if anybody would find a website unless they were actually looking maybe to come here and then it would give them a little bit of background yeah yeah I think uh do you mind if my proposal is zero yeah until we get further a better idea of everything that yeah okay let's go with uh Cache County building and grounds number 10. yeah now that's for the the electrical out front here right along between the buildings in with nature of the farmers market that they have oh that's right because it's a new life called me a wise thing to do as he continues to grow they're going to need that electrical power now may be a good time to put it into effect it's a busy place here on Saturday during the summer yep it's a very big ass for what we've given them in the past I believe that's probably the entire project the entire project but last year's project her project was 385 thousand so 9 500. tourism promotion the right place for for this project The Gardener's Market is I guess tourism okay and a lot of the events that they would bring in would be related to tourism tourism okay okay clarify this somebody who knows would this work also for for cars electric cars no no like 110 special connections for an electric car yeah this is just power um for you know sound systems um anything food trucks stuff like that electric cars are a separate specific I'm thinking the 9500 it seems like a low bill for putting those kind of things in but I think they must not have to go very far because we just barely to the South redid that whole pedestal electrical area right there and so you might not have to go that far and be able to do this and that's why it's so cheap uh should we fund it I'm good with it 9 500. and 11. why is your office this efficient we did 11. we've done 11. oh I'm sorry yeah well well I've done 12 and where do we go with the 28 23 Cruise
I well I will flat out jump out right now and say I suppose we funded it's a big deal a big draw and again I love the diversity yep I love that we're providing again something for everybody in this County as far as things that bring in tourism there are a few things that compare to that yeah I'm pretty easy on it if you guys want to go that direction their budget for this year budgets for 29 000 Surplus they budgeted 29 000 more in income that they figure that they'll spend so you can take it down to what and the actual their carryover is a 95 000 carryover from prior year how much 95 000 justifications I've been trying to buy a specific car trying to get that but we need to fund them and I think I recommended 30 grand that's what I did yeah I'd have them as well which is what it was last year ladies yes who do you think I think we'll fund them all the way I want more but I'll go with whatever a little bit more of myself but okay that's fine let's go another five thirty four thirty five yeah I know the guy that's over it hello it was one of my FFA officers you know it's it's actually what I think is neat is things like that kind of is a brain and a branding theme and overall they bring in concerts in the a concert in the evening too well just that weekend it'd be curious to see how many this raps tax comes from that well it's hard because it's that weekend everybody's coming but and going to Bear league but again there's something for everybody it's another it's a different thing kind of activity you know and there's a part of the cultures for it and I'm glad that we provide it so whatever uh 29.
I well I will flat out jump out right now and say I suppose we funded it's a big deal a big draw and again I love the diversity yep I love that we're providing again something for everybody in this County as far as things that bring in tourism there are a few things that compare to that yeah I'm pretty easy on it if you guys want to go that direction their budget for this year budgets for 29 000 Surplus they budgeted 29 000 more in income that they figure that they'll spend so you can take it down to what and the actual their carryover is a 95 000 carryover from prior year how much 95 000 justifications I've been trying to buy a specific car trying to get that but we need to fund them and I think I recommended 30 grand that's what I did yeah I'd have them as well which is what it was last year ladies yes who do you think I think we'll fund them all the way I want more but I'll go with whatever a little bit more of myself but okay that's fine let's go another five thirty four thirty five yeah I know the guy that's over it hello it was one of my FFA officers you know it's it's actually what I think is neat is things like that kind of is a brain and a branding theme and overall they bring in concerts in the a concert in the evening too well just that weekend it'd be curious to see how many this raps tax comes from that well it's hard because it's that weekend everybody's coming but and going to Bear league but again there's something for everybody it's another it's a different thing kind of activity you know and there's a part of the cultures for it and I'm glad that we provide it so whatever uh 29.
okay requesting about thirty percent 37 of their budget thirty two thousand dollar budget last year you funded about four thousand how much last year I'm sorry you did four in 2020 I'm not sure where we want to go hard to say it's interesting what they used the last year's really you know four seems like a lot of little sundry things a little bit of just kind of the supplies and I guess operation maintenance of it uh budget here man does it seem like it was just more of the same increase it just more of them how much well we haven't said anything yet last year we funded 4 000 they're looking for 12 this year about 37 percent of their budget I think we're all kind of open on us what they want to spend it for is 4 000 for media advertising is that where the bulk of the increases come from 3 000 from print materials in addition to the advertising ad space rentals 600 they want to spend a thousand dollars for a band for a a band you struggling with everything the performance side of it or more hey they want to spend a thousand dollars on tables I understand pumpkins and cookies they give away art supplies
okay requesting about thirty percent 37 of their budget thirty two thousand dollar budget last year you funded about four thousand how much last year I'm sorry you did four in 2020 I'm not sure where we want to go hard to say it's interesting what they used the last year's really you know four seems like a lot of little sundry things a little bit of just kind of the supplies and I guess operation maintenance of it uh budget here man does it seem like it was just more of the same increase it just more of them how much well we haven't said anything yet last year we funded 4 000 they're looking for 12 this year about 37 percent of their budget I think we're all kind of open on us what they want to spend it for is 4 000 for media advertising is that where the bulk of the increases come from 3 000 from print materials in addition to the advertising ad space rentals 600 they want to spend a thousand dollars for a band for a a band you struggling with everything the performance side of it or more hey they want to spend a thousand dollars on tables I understand pumpkins and cookies they give away art supplies
as well that's what I had at the top of my all right some of the stuff I didn't and it might be different if they've maybe said why they they thought that would do a different like trying to get the younger crowd or I don't know what that is I don't know what they're looking at but it's interesting it's good for me Let's help them just keep them going see how it develops before you're doing the electrical specifically right for them let's just see how it develops and evolves so what did you say four thousand four thousand for number twenty nine okay number 37. the grandfather grandfondo you're on page seven for that one this is another catchy name scored a 31. what is the definition of a grand Fondo anyone got that series of racism it's a long it's a long race long bike it's a bike race I know but it's a long bike it didn't originate here we're borrowing that name it's a it's a qualifying race for a national Grand fundo so this one this is a qualifier qualifying I I'm pretty sure he's put that in there we've done this a few he's done this a few years in Nevada I like this project when they come to town the hotels fill up uh and that's that's exactly what we're going for or at least from my perspective so I just support the whole thing one fund the one founder seventy five hundred dollars what the request was but I wouldn't do number 38 which is the promotion so I think I that was my initial disposition uh but then when I looked at it that it's actually the cash Century bicycle ride that we didn't fund through h-spin events in the grand fundo it was previously funded through Common Ground correct and so in the past we have funded both of those items it's just this year uh Troy Oldham with grand Fondo I put in for it I did I did I had 7 500 and 2500 I apologize I I had 2500 on the the cash Century on number 30 yes was called Common Ground yes Common Ground was the applicant and it's still it's still the benefit common ground it's just that this year instead of Common Ground putting in the application cash Grand fundo H spin put in the application on behalf of Common Grounds right still benefits the same organization it's just we use the fund that the common ground and I and I did I did 75 and 25. that's exactly where I feel good about that I'm good 2500 then on number 38. going to the next one excellent so 37 was 7 500 fully funded correct yeah and then 2500 on number 38. okay okay let's go to the Logan cash Airport oh we did that one no no excuse me I have a question on this one sorry what's the source of the other funding for this can you answer that Dave do you know you know what's at four well it's it's all part of the you know the airport board that does you know they have an airport door and they look over those things and I think that they report to you at all no this is independent they they are actually together and we don't get any kind of uh a report or anything that they come to us for the County Council It's a combination with Cache County and with uh Logan City and you know that's just the airport to anybody there's no we have El Carl Ward is our representative on that board but as far as we never get any kind of feedback from them except when they want money and then we usually get a big request that's which is here's one of them is any of this done through grants Dave a lot of it use something yeah it is yes so part of the in the past it was like almost all affiliated with some FAA grants that they would have continually and because they were trying to expand it and they would be able to get some even long-term money yeah for a lot of those grants then I there has been a change in some uh leadership out there and uh and since then it just seems like everything's got to be fixed you know wasn't it two or three years ago where we actually did a matching fund with them yeah 370 000 bucks or something yes when we did the matching that was remember there was like just one time yeah and it was so that they could get uh there was another big that was our portion they needed it quite fast for a grant yeah in order to I think that was updating the one the runway wasn't that part like Runway exactly I remember now see you and to be fair like that felt way better than this like I want I wanted to justify brain immediate return the more people coming that didn't have access that maybe not that a lot of people fly in but if we could get that airport to a spot of wood that's a game changer but that seems a long ways off well I I guess that's why I asked where the other it's a two million dollar project they wanted five hundred thousand I wondered where the rest is coming from if it's a matching type thing if we get 500 if they could get another 500 deal yeah I I couldn't tell you okay it says UDOT and Airport funds yeah so doesn't really say s am I reading it right that there's three bid alternates are they just going between things that would be fancier and nicer and and Essentials on that or did anyone get sounds to me like it's replacement of a gas tank that is and if the gas tank is is not any good uh either you replace it or it goes then it goes worse what's the local funding you know they say local funding but what's the local funding this is your perfect timing yeah he walks in the last one we are looking for 41 on the Logan on that airport and working with Jason coming from for this project they're asking for 500 let me try calling him real quick I'm not sure off the top of my head we each took a bite out of your lunch thing so the question is um two million dollar project is there funding lined up for the rest of Israel be pretty curious about that where's the other million and a half see if I can reach them juice and it's David Zuck I'm in the middle of the wraps committee meeting right now and we're reviewing the gratification that you submitted for the airport the question has come up about matching funds or the rest of the funding for that project the rest of that funding available or is there a source for it should we go on the project budget you're right down at the bottom it says engineering
as well that's what I had at the top of my all right some of the stuff I didn't and it might be different if they've maybe said why they they thought that would do a different like trying to get the younger crowd or I don't know what that is I don't know what they're looking at but it's interesting it's good for me Let's help them just keep them going see how it develops before you're doing the electrical specifically right for them let's just see how it develops and evolves so what did you say four thousand four thousand for number twenty nine okay number 37. the grandfather grandfondo you're on page seven for that one this is another catchy name scored a 31. what is the definition of a grand Fondo anyone got that series of racism it's a long it's a long race long bike it's a bike race I know but it's a long bike it didn't originate here we're borrowing that name it's a it's a qualifying race for a national Grand fundo so this one this is a qualifier qualifying I I'm pretty sure he's put that in there we've done this a few he's done this a few years in Nevada I like this project when they come to town the hotels fill up uh and that's that's exactly what we're going for or at least from my perspective so I just support the whole thing one fund the one founder seventy five hundred dollars what the request was but I wouldn't do number 38 which is the promotion so I think I that was my initial disposition uh but then when I looked at it that it's actually the cash Century bicycle ride that we didn't fund through h-spin events in the grand fundo it was previously funded through Common Ground correct and so in the past we have funded both of those items it's just this year uh Troy Oldham with grand Fondo I put in for it I did I did I had 7 500 and 2500 I apologize I I had 2500 on the the cash Century on number 30 yes was called Common Ground yes Common Ground was the applicant and it's still it's still the benefit common ground it's just that this year instead of Common Ground putting in the application cash Grand fundo H spin put in the application on behalf of Common Grounds right still benefits the same organization it's just we use the fund that the common ground and I and I did I did 75 and 25. that's exactly where I feel good about that I'm good 2500 then on number 38. going to the next one excellent so 37 was 7 500 fully funded correct yeah and then 2500 on number 38. okay okay let's go to the Logan cash Airport oh we did that one no no excuse me I have a question on this one sorry what's the source of the other funding for this can you answer that Dave do you know you know what's at four well it's it's all part of the you know the airport board that does you know they have an airport door and they look over those things and I think that they report to you at all no this is independent they they are actually together and we don't get any kind of uh a report or anything that they come to us for the County Council It's a combination with Cache County and with uh Logan City and you know that's just the airport to anybody there's no we have El Carl Ward is our representative on that board but as far as we never get any kind of feedback from them except when they want money and then we usually get a big request that's which is here's one of them is any of this done through grants Dave a lot of it use something yeah it is yes so part of the in the past it was like almost all affiliated with some FAA grants that they would have continually and because they were trying to expand it and they would be able to get some even long-term money yeah for a lot of those grants then I there has been a change in some uh leadership out there and uh and since then it just seems like everything's got to be fixed you know wasn't it two or three years ago where we actually did a matching fund with them yeah 370 000 bucks or something yes when we did the matching that was remember there was like just one time yeah and it was so that they could get uh there was another big that was our portion they needed it quite fast for a grant yeah in order to I think that was updating the one the runway wasn't that part like Runway exactly I remember now see you and to be fair like that felt way better than this like I want I wanted to justify brain immediate return the more people coming that didn't have access that maybe not that a lot of people fly in but if we could get that airport to a spot of wood that's a game changer but that seems a long ways off well I I guess that's why I asked where the other it's a two million dollar project they wanted five hundred thousand I wondered where the rest is coming from if it's a matching type thing if we get 500 if they could get another 500 deal yeah I I couldn't tell you okay it says UDOT and Airport funds yeah so doesn't really say s am I reading it right that there's three bid alternates are they just going between things that would be fancier and nicer and and Essentials on that or did anyone get sounds to me like it's replacement of a gas tank that is and if the gas tank is is not any good uh either you replace it or it goes then it goes worse what's the local funding you know they say local funding but what's the local funding this is your perfect timing yeah he walks in the last one we are looking for 41 on the Logan on that airport and working with Jason coming from for this project they're asking for 500 let me try calling him real quick I'm not sure off the top of my head we each took a bite out of your lunch thing so the question is um two million dollar project is there funding lined up for the rest of Israel be pretty curious about that where's the other million and a half see if I can reach them juice and it's David Zuck I'm in the middle of the wraps committee meeting right now and we're reviewing the gratification that you submitted for the airport the question has come up about matching funds or the rest of the funding for that project the rest of that funding available or is there a source for it should we go on the project budget you're right down at the bottom it says engineering
please be fair I'm going to spend money on Engineers it's going to be when I'm flying we're Landing you know a lot of these things should already be within their budget on replacing the operational things operational in the middle of it there should be increasing too much every year as you go do they have do they have a residuals like well yeah it's not just it can't be just a total free service that's my thought is everyone that uses the pace that's supposed to pay for takeoff for the living yeah everything then they rent some of those buildings out there also but then again it's Utah state that does most all the landing and flying right now it's all student loans they're doing well with that Aviation program I've heard that strong I've heard as people in and there's forecasts for pilot shortages 15 years really yeah there's a cat I think you can't be a commercial like you can't fly a passenger aircraft let's go on too if you can we'll come we'll come back to that one let's go to 45 for now up in Utah Marathon uh that was eight seven on your score shape yeah of course a 32. like how you have those spread out okay okay that answers our question thank you very much Jason before we get to okay I can answer that question uh he said they've identified some money from UDOT that would be a match but he said most of the money they're still working on securing and do not have the rest of those funds yet know how much they're willing to mount he said he said they have 300 000 from UDOT so far that's it I'll do at least that and then they're willing to match up is the U Dot based on getting the wraps money um it would be it would be based on that and the rest of the funding all of the funding necessary but if that the UDOT money won't go away if we don't fund this right now we said that the potential match yeah I it didn't sound like it would go away necessarily because he's still working on several other sources it sounds like they've committed that and understand that the airport will be pursuing several other sources so that you might have that either way that one scored kind of low I think it was a 23. yeah that's really low and so I'm I'm a little hesitant to go to the full amount with that kind of score but you know something smaller so that they know that they've got something I I hate to commit to that I hate to see it to me it's still a partial project because I would like to see that see this is I'd like to go towards tourism security or something something in it and say yes with that we get this done here within the next in their application they said we need this money because there's some time critical things we'd like to acquire and if you look at the it looks like they were going to try to buy three tanks and one of the things was 300 279 000 or something looks like they were trying to buy it to just someone until it was all complete and if they've got the UDOT money and they can use that to buy one of the tanks I I would rather wait on this one until next time around or if we have extra funds let the county sit on them until they have more in place okay anyone else that kind of feel the same way I do too it doesn't seem like we're there yet yeah so that sounds reasonable okay yeah so right now we'll put it at zero and then go from there and put a 45 . I like the grandfondo they fill up a lot of hotel rooms because a lot of people going out to eat the afternoon one of the things I really like about that too is not only do they fill up hotel rooms they fill them up eight months in advance or six months of like way in advance it's not just showing up it's people plan they start training they book hotel rooms so those hotel rooms fill up earlier I don't know if that's a big factor but it's impressive but what about the attendance does anybody know I know they've had a rough time getting I think covet was good for him huh I don't think kova did very good for him no no they had a pretty good run before that though they requested 25 last year and we're just requesting 15 this year they're either doing much better so they didn't have to request too much I've got down 10. that's kind of maintain the 10 000 for them and the thing that bothered me a little bit on this one is there's no accounting yeah for how last year went see that's that's why I asked me what was it what was the attendance how many Runners did they have well even the even the money how much did we take in how did we spend it to give us an idea they've got a budget there but they budgeted for a ten thousand dollars so here it is here well this was 2022. they registered 449 Rudders but only 201 uh well no I'm sorry of the 449 Runners 201 Runners resided outside Cache County and 248 resided in Cache County oh they did that they did have 450. they did have about 450 so that's pretty good really yeah yeah that's really good in fact yeah
please be fair I'm going to spend money on Engineers it's going to be when I'm flying we're Landing you know a lot of these things should already be within their budget on replacing the operational things operational in the middle of it there should be increasing too much every year as you go do they have do they have a residuals like well yeah it's not just it can't be just a total free service that's my thought is everyone that uses the pace that's supposed to pay for takeoff for the living yeah everything then they rent some of those buildings out there also but then again it's Utah state that does most all the landing and flying right now it's all student loans they're doing well with that Aviation program I've heard that strong I've heard as people in and there's forecasts for pilot shortages 15 years really yeah there's a cat I think you can't be a commercial like you can't fly a passenger aircraft let's go on too if you can we'll come we'll come back to that one let's go to 45 for now up in Utah Marathon uh that was eight seven on your score shape yeah of course a 32. like how you have those spread out okay okay that answers our question thank you very much Jason before we get to okay I can answer that question uh he said they've identified some money from UDOT that would be a match but he said most of the money they're still working on securing and do not have the rest of those funds yet know how much they're willing to mount he said he said they have 300 000 from UDOT so far that's it I'll do at least that and then they're willing to match up is the U Dot based on getting the wraps money um it would be it would be based on that and the rest of the funding all of the funding necessary but if that the UDOT money won't go away if we don't fund this right now we said that the potential match yeah I it didn't sound like it would go away necessarily because he's still working on several other sources it sounds like they've committed that and understand that the airport will be pursuing several other sources so that you might have that either way that one scored kind of low I think it was a 23. yeah that's really low and so I'm I'm a little hesitant to go to the full amount with that kind of score but you know something smaller so that they know that they've got something I I hate to commit to that I hate to see it to me it's still a partial project because I would like to see that see this is I'd like to go towards tourism security or something something in it and say yes with that we get this done here within the next in their application they said we need this money because there's some time critical things we'd like to acquire and if you look at the it looks like they were going to try to buy three tanks and one of the things was 300 279 000 or something looks like they were trying to buy it to just someone until it was all complete and if they've got the UDOT money and they can use that to buy one of the tanks I I would rather wait on this one until next time around or if we have extra funds let the county sit on them until they have more in place okay anyone else that kind of feel the same way I do too it doesn't seem like we're there yet yeah so that sounds reasonable okay yeah so right now we'll put it at zero and then go from there and put a 45 . I like the grandfondo they fill up a lot of hotel rooms because a lot of people going out to eat the afternoon one of the things I really like about that too is not only do they fill up hotel rooms they fill them up eight months in advance or six months of like way in advance it's not just showing up it's people plan they start training they book hotel rooms so those hotel rooms fill up earlier I don't know if that's a big factor but it's impressive but what about the attendance does anybody know I know they've had a rough time getting I think covet was good for him huh I don't think kova did very good for him no no they had a pretty good run before that though they requested 25 last year and we're just requesting 15 this year they're either doing much better so they didn't have to request too much I've got down 10. that's kind of maintain the 10 000 for them and the thing that bothered me a little bit on this one is there's no accounting yeah for how last year went see that's that's why I asked me what was it what was the attendance how many Runners did they have well even the even the money how much did we take in how did we spend it to give us an idea they've got a budget there but they budgeted for a ten thousand dollars so here it is here well this was 2022. they registered 449 Rudders but only 201 uh well no I'm sorry of the 449 Runners 201 Runners resided outside Cache County and 248 resided in Cache County oh they did that they did have 450. they did have about 450 so that's pretty good really yeah yeah that's really good in fact yeah
I've got ten thousand yeah I'm good with them does that mean 20. number 45 is 10 000. okay yep good and noro Echo well no hang on yeah we nope Lyric Theater is this what we're looking at yeah I wish they'd have written that number yeah I made it yeah marketing out operations what are production expenses 76 . I'm sorry but 5 000 brochures I don't think still goes very far nowadays he was on this one because the lyric company is an arm of USU he's my employer so I'm just just going to step back on this one does your employment depend on it
I've got ten thousand yeah I'm good with them does that mean 20. number 45 is 10 000. okay yep good and noro Echo well no hang on yeah we nope Lyric Theater is this what we're looking at yeah I wish they'd have written that number yeah I made it yeah marketing out operations what are production expenses 76 . I'm sorry but 5 000 brochures I don't think still goes very far nowadays he was on this one because the lyric company is an arm of USU he's my employer so I'm just just going to step back on this one does your employment depend on it
the request for 25 last year we gave them 10 in the requesting 25 again that is with wraps I put down 15. go down 15. 15. that sounds good 46 15 000. hey nor Eckles Harrison Museum art I'm gonna stay out of this one too just in case well you could let's say let's check out the rest of meeting you gonna be here at all I'm good to go tell us how much you committed to raise in order to keep your job
the request for 25 last year we gave them 10 in the requesting 25 again that is with wraps I put down 15. go down 15. 15. that sounds good 46 15 000. hey nor Eckles Harrison Museum art I'm gonna stay out of this one too just in case well you could let's say let's check out the rest of meeting you gonna be here at all I'm good to go tell us how much you committed to raise in order to keep your job
I went with five I did two I did too I sometimes I don't know what as I worry sometimes with on page ain't I hate to dive too much into an education you know we talked about Logan's school district we talked about the other one we hate to dive into them and get married by The Hip too much because uh then then everyone wants everything and then the independence start losing so yeah and then the you know lobbyists here
I went with five I did two I did too I sometimes I don't know what as I worry sometimes with on page ain't I hate to dive too much into an education you know we talked about Logan's school district we talked about the other one we hate to dive into them and get married by The Hip too much because uh then then everyone wants everything and then the independence start losing so yeah and then the you know lobbyists here
what page was that again sorry hey Jade we'll go five thousand five thousand on that one thank you Nordic United is next I'll ask you the requested twelve thousand he gave him implied they showed the request in 8 500. I'll probably give him five again that's I agree with that I think they say that's pretty pretty consistent five okay everybody yep yep yeah 57 people do come like they groom uh Green Canyon and it's very heavily trafficked it is so it's a good program four years I have zero that's the only as do I the only reason I actually gave him a anything is the purpose of what it is for is the cash Suicide Prevention Coalition and suicide free awareness maybe they're we ought to give them something but you never have given anything in the past I was struck by the fact that this is for suicide prevention and that is it's striking that we have to even consider that but it is a rising problem and I don't know okay this is how much it's worth this is actually the counties uh event and it has been funded the last couple of years but it was funded directly from the County Council to the fairgrounds and the fairgrounds put the event on similar to how the cheese and dairy Festival is put on um but the County Council directed staff to actually apply this year for these funds for that rather than going through just going through the normal budget process for the funding and so as as the group was looking at applying it was decided that instead of the fairgrounds applying for it that it would go through the United Way mostly because the fairgrounds is is the they're the venue they're the ones who actually organized this event similar again to the cheese and dairy Festival but the goal was to get other people involved to help them to um organize and put on the event and that's the goal with the cheese and dairy Festival too is to at some point get a committee of other people come in and take that one over as well and so this this one's been successful now in getting the United Way and another the rest of the committee there to step up and and help put the event on and so that's why this is under the name of the United Way but it is something that the county has done for the past two years so looking at the budget it says they want fifteen thousand dollars to rent a state that's right that was my question as well that's what's been done twenty thousand dollars for a speaker or a band or an artist so we really don't know Alex boyes who has been the performer the last two years and um the um and there has been a big stage that has been rented and brought in for the concert and um to answer those two questions so what we're doing having trouble with this so we're putting on a concert and saying come and hear somebody talk about self-awareness and if you need help seek help is that what we're doing yeah but specifically you're having Alex come in kind of known in those circles so to speak for speaking to that sort of thing yeah I don't know if that has more bear on it they're not I don't know yeah that's the reason why he was brought in is because he has he has kind of a history of hosting and Performing these types of events and does a great job actually and it's not just a concert it's a um it's a most of the day Festival yeah they're last year there were I think around three dozen booths with exhibitors non-profit organizations Mental Health Providers different agencies providing resources and information so that that's a big part of it and then in addition to the music there are speakers the way it's been done the last couple of years is some music and then some speakers and some music and some speakers and just kind of mixing it up and um overall an educational not just an entertainment event but an educational event as well is this kind of some kind of track record of the efficacy of this kind of a program does it help is there any way of measuring whether it sounds um we have we do have several success stories uh from the last couple of years from just anecdotal stories from people who have approached us and shared their story uh based on their experience afterward um but there's no empirical data or anything like that I think the only thing that you could go to would be if we had a number of who would the number that had attended I think that's the only thing yeah the Ted thousands of attendees the grass area at the fairgrounds has been full for the last two years there we don't know the exact numbers because we didn't ticket attendees or anything there there was a really big turnout both years that whole grass area being full but what you said earlier is that either the Cache County will have it in their budget and foot the bill or it will come out of the wraps they're like no what what happened the last two years was the County Council allocated restaurant tax money to this project so they were funded through these funds the last two years uh yeah it was just under the fairgrounds event center is who it was through and not I don't know if it shows but it did not go through the application process right I see yeah didn't go through this process because it came up um it came up later uh in the year and it was just kind of a last minute thing ended up being very successful and then was done again the next year the first year actually what happened was the um the group came to the council and said here's this event we want to do we think we can raise the money but if not will you help us with with some restaurant tax money and that in that first year I don't remember how much of the restaurant tax money was actually used but I don't remember I don't think there was any if any it was very small because they ended up raising um here they ended up using more of the restaurant money because the Alex Boye had a last minute change in a schedule and it had to be moved up a couple months earlier in the year and they didn't so they didn't have as much time to fundraise and but the intent the intent is to be able to fundraise again this year and and be able to pay for most of the expenses through fundraising when you said the group came who was the group that came to the county and asked the first of the first year the the fairgrounds event center the the group was the cash Suicide Prevention Coalition no no it was the event center that came out it was um now the suicide prevention Coalition has been brought in as a partner oh okay but when this first came up it was simply staff at the Event Center who got this idea and decided to do it they're really good at holding events that's all they do all day every day all year round they put on events there and they heard about an event that had been hosted down on the Wasatch Front with Alex Boye and they thought you know we could we could do this here and decided to to put it on and then um there are a couple of people involved over there who've been personally affected by Suicide and um a because of that they're very passionate about this and that's why they took the lead the first two years on on organizing this event um I suggested to them though that this isn't really it's not really their job their job is to put on events but not necessarily to provide Mental Health Resources and things and that's why I encourage bringing the suicide prevention Coalition in to be a partner as well as a number of other partners agencies and organizations non-profit organizations and so it's it's a lot more I think formal and organized now with these different groups and and I think they're going to make an even better event this year it sounded like it was put on an event to have an event to use a facility and then we found somebody to back that event I I just I don't know if that's where we fit I have a little different perspective I I love the event I love the the activity I I think it's really cool I I have a lot of uh concern about ways that society that suicide is affecting our communities I see it among students at USU we've I've seen I've seen it among my my kids peers in the high schools um the the part that I have the hardest time with this application is not the merits of the event it it's whether it really whether it falls under tourism promotion and of course Arts Recreation and Zoo if if this can fall under Arts then I I don't have any issue with the event it does this one have to be under the tourism promotion component though it's a it's a new one and and when we put it in um we did it did qualify let me what could it qualify under Arts as well if it can qualify under our music we have multiple other music groups yeah under Arts I'd have to and I'm not even necessarily arguing for full funding for it I I like the I is there what kinds of stages do we use when the when the county fair hosts concerts and things like that are there ways that we can scale this so that you know the the idea of budgeting 15 000 every dollars every year to rent a stage doesn't fit for me put an application in the build stage but uh yeah let's build the capacity and buy the county fairgrounds a stage so that that this event can happen for three thousand dollars or or ten thousand dollars every time instead or thing things like that uh so I I I do really like the core music but I can't let my likes of One Thing versus another thing dictate what I recommend funding for it has to fit with the program I think I would have left the ten thousand I would guess that this could fit under Arts um I I would just say there's a lot of stuff that we're we're considering today and have considered today you guys have considered today and they're mostly all about fun uh they're pretty much all about entertainment they're about arts and entertainment maybe some educational components in in some of them um this one this one is different it feels different it looks different sounds different because it is different it is about arts and entertainment but it's about arts and entertainment for a different cause this is for a cause that is a very important cause in our community and I don't know how how familiar all of you are with the Mental Health crisis that we have in our community right now but there are a significant number of people who are dying from suicide in our community on a very regular basis to a regular basis in fact this morning our Human Resources Director and our victim Services director and our counseling firm that we work with met with some of our employees in one of our departments because one of our employees died by Suicide this weekend do is there anything it is obviously a I mean it's care you have to be careful with a topic like this but is there anything to show it's success and hoping that I don't know how much success do we have from American Festival course I don't know each of you I know either I'm yeah I'm just asking the questions each of these we could have that same argument about each one of these how much of an impact did they make on our community from an economic standpoint from an educational standpoint from an entertainment standpoint that's a good question to ask that about to piggyback on that David a little success to go a long way if it's measured in that in the right perspective something like that's kind of hard to measure though that's what I'm saying it a little goes a long way if you if you say one life it's done like you've funded it but that's well I'm still on the favor of giving them something I agree with what you're saying Bruce it may not fit in that do you feel like a square or the right block and in the past it sounds like they have found a fair amount of funding from other locations is that still an option are they growing it is it how does that look that's the plan and ideally this event happens without even needing to touch this money that's what happened the first year yes he said that's that's the goal is to raise enough money that this doesn't need to happen and what the council did that first year which I thought was was awesome was they said we'll we will provide this funding if you need it and um and then they said the same thing last year and they did need it last year and they used the funding going forward um how exactly that looks why did we uh that's a good question or good thought right there you brought up that we did not need at the first year and then we needed a second what was the difference then the difference was that in the second year um Alex Boye changed his schedule and had to move it up a couple of months so they hadn't was some fundraising yeah no time to raise the money changed they went from like multiple months to raise the money to less months to raise the money so the fundraising window closed on and some some of the people who donated the first year did not participate the second year for various reasons we're hoping some of them come back this year um but it was different the second year there was a short shortened unexpected time frame second year and then um but it sounds like this was semi-successful through covid difficult times so I mean just to have some momentum there in that time yeah yeah and there's a lot of momentum I think it was a great event the first year and a shroud last year as well it's but it is how much does it help did it help one one person yeah we have several stories they actually made a series of videos afterward uh of people who attended people who were touched people who were inspired people who were motivated to videos that all right I mean had does the public see that like how does yeah yeah so they use those videos as um additional uh educational and informative material that they shared through social media online with people afterward to continue the message I I'm uncomfortable making a recommendation on this my recommendation is that we let the County Council decide I don't know that I'm would be willing to recommend any amount to it but do we leave enough that if the council wants to do it that they can they decide at that level rather than this at this level I'd put 10 in total respect I I would maybe think about putting 10 in and then if the County Council wants to see it fully funded or at least insured against the ability to to get funding they can bump it up to 25. but for my part I'm comfortable with 10 but one voice among many here why can they pull in a truck and do it off the back of a truck that'll be a cool show I I think I I think this is a really good program and I I think we should fund a little bit of a I'm willing to go 15. I'm more in line with you I think I'm in line with uh with Barbara I think it's an excellent program and it's a kind of a wait and see but I think the program is going to be beneficial to anybody who who participates or watches and hopefully it will save a few people right in the Arts category it fits the only problem is is is I can put it in as a qualifying experience I can put it in they're a non-profit United Way is a non-profit I can put it in as cultural Organization for ongoing operation expenses for theater but the problem is is United Way their primary purpose is not a cultural or Arts and that's why we put it in under tourism so that it could qualify that way that makes sense yeah let's go ahead and make a decision and go on I I'd put it at 10 or or 15 uh 15 would be fine with me if the County Council wants to revisit that but I I'm I I would it makes it a lot easier for this board each time it reviews it there's a clearer link to tourism promotion in the way they apply for it in the application um I is speaking from the County Council point of view putting you know either 10 or 15 in it's going to probably be bought before the council anyway and so if the council feels like they want to make up the difference on it then that's a decision we'll make later on it yeah I like that idea Barbara I think that's a great approach because you're exactly right the council could just be easier for me to vote it but vote for it or to put money towards it if it said hey we had an event the first time we had an event we had 500 people attend second time we had two thousand attend that would be more meaningful to me as a tourism item than just hey we're going to have a concert and whoever shows up shows up but it's hard when it is line items that are hard to wrap your head around there there were several thousand people each time like I said it wasn't ticketed so we don't know exactly but the lawn was full both years and I've heard estimates from 2500 to 5 000. as far as how many people attended maybe we should be keeping better records of attendance well and on their application that would help us a lot exactly the application came across like hey I would I'd put 15 to it and put it to the council one thing that got to be real I think we need to be real careful is a one is if we start the president I'm worried we should never ever prey on the plight of others and I say that in the in in the way that I say that is that we should never take an issue that is a very sensitive issue and we should let let other organizations we should never take tax money to be part of a fundraiser uh for us and it'll never end well you'll have autism you'll have uh homelessness you'll have I mean we could just go on and on and on with uh putting this money that was generated for specific purposes to everyone's plight and I just I I am personally this this uh the concert itself should be very independent it should be by itself but the group that did it they shouldn't you know yes we'll get maybe give them a break on a mental or something like that or free but it should be a different organization that is doing it completely we had the same discussion two years ago when the United Way and they put it on here exactly they wanted to have a pickleball tournament yeah we're gonna have a pickleball tournament everybody's going to pay in and we're going to raise money for whatever cause it was and for it was for suicide again I think for suicide prevention and that was two years ago and he said no that doesn't work and I think we had that same discussion today and we to answer your concerns Dave under Utah state law counties are responsible for mental health and so that's why we have a fair mental health that we've partnered with our neighboring counties to create and to address mental health in our communities that's why we have the Bear River Health Department that we partnered with our neighboring counties to create and that's why I have pulled them into this event and they're they're part of it now because they are our mental health agencies and and they're great Partners I'm glad to have them there they're they're doing a good job but it is our responsibility as a County to make sure our community is healthy and that's a big part of rap so a lot of the stuff that we're doing in wraps helps us to create a healthy Community whether it's it's mental health or physical health so I I think this is a good project and a good program for us to be partners with them on I'm thankful that we had staff who it wasn't necessarily their job but they were creative they saw a need and they stepped up and they were willing to to help with this importantly even though it wasn't really specifically their job we are we are working now in a little different way and including the people whose job it is like the suicide prevention Coalition and the mental health agencies they're much more engaged with this now but it is definitely a good cause okay so you know 10 15. fifteen okay we'll go with 15. 71. this is 15. uh 76.76 the 47th program I'm gonna be I'm gonna recuse and in fact if this is the last one we have to go to 23 again oh dang it okay we can hurry and do that uh summer citizens 30 we gave him 15 last year and yeah I'm suggesting to give them the same thing this year based on our discussions it said that we awarded him zero but I thought we gave him 15. you gave him 15 and 20 20 years ago zero uh two years ago they forgot they were in the transition that's right directors and they didn't apply I think should match that I head down here 15 but whatever I've heard it four times fifteen okay fine with me okay we're just about there it's 23. this one here was brought out of res and was resurrected so this one wasn't wrapped in with the other Trail stuff we looked at earlier this is a different entity oh gotcha Trails cash and cash trails and Cache Valley trails and this is Cash Trails Alliance is a non-profit the others are associated with the county study right essentially I'd say they're going to conduct a survey or basically a study to prepare for a environmental study so that they could see where the trail is best suited as far as the path goes and and then the Logan ranger district will do the chances of success in the NEPA process those are as I've heard the tale notoriously difficult long-winding Trails if I there is the word that way or did the applicants give a sense of that I I didn't get it from the application but I not in speaking with them or in the application that I and you re you review them much deeper than I do um so I I can't answer that well it's this is the initial this is just the step one yeah can we do this I know but you need this about five to ten years would be typical for the NEPA process from what I understand I don't have a lot of experience in this building Trail according to Naper brothers or just to get us just to get NEPA approval uh NEPA is the National Environmental Protection act or something like that is the process that you have to go through to get to change uses and get these kinds of things permitted on federal lands um the number one killer of all good projects
what page was that again sorry hey Jade we'll go five thousand five thousand on that one thank you Nordic United is next I'll ask you the requested twelve thousand he gave him implied they showed the request in 8 500. I'll probably give him five again that's I agree with that I think they say that's pretty pretty consistent five okay everybody yep yep yeah 57 people do come like they groom uh Green Canyon and it's very heavily trafficked it is so it's a good program four years I have zero that's the only as do I the only reason I actually gave him a anything is the purpose of what it is for is the cash Suicide Prevention Coalition and suicide free awareness maybe they're we ought to give them something but you never have given anything in the past I was struck by the fact that this is for suicide prevention and that is it's striking that we have to even consider that but it is a rising problem and I don't know okay this is how much it's worth this is actually the counties uh event and it has been funded the last couple of years but it was funded directly from the County Council to the fairgrounds and the fairgrounds put the event on similar to how the cheese and dairy Festival is put on um but the County Council directed staff to actually apply this year for these funds for that rather than going through just going through the normal budget process for the funding and so as as the group was looking at applying it was decided that instead of the fairgrounds applying for it that it would go through the United Way mostly because the fairgrounds is is the they're the venue they're the ones who actually organized this event similar again to the cheese and dairy Festival but the goal was to get other people involved to help them to um organize and put on the event and that's the goal with the cheese and dairy Festival too is to at some point get a committee of other people come in and take that one over as well and so this this one's been successful now in getting the United Way and another the rest of the committee there to step up and and help put the event on and so that's why this is under the name of the United Way but it is something that the county has done for the past two years so looking at the budget it says they want fifteen thousand dollars to rent a state that's right that was my question as well that's what's been done twenty thousand dollars for a speaker or a band or an artist so we really don't know Alex boyes who has been the performer the last two years and um the um and there has been a big stage that has been rented and brought in for the concert and um to answer those two questions so what we're doing having trouble with this so we're putting on a concert and saying come and hear somebody talk about self-awareness and if you need help seek help is that what we're doing yeah but specifically you're having Alex come in kind of known in those circles so to speak for speaking to that sort of thing yeah I don't know if that has more bear on it they're not I don't know yeah that's the reason why he was brought in is because he has he has kind of a history of hosting and Performing these types of events and does a great job actually and it's not just a concert it's a um it's a most of the day Festival yeah they're last year there were I think around three dozen booths with exhibitors non-profit organizations Mental Health Providers different agencies providing resources and information so that that's a big part of it and then in addition to the music there are speakers the way it's been done the last couple of years is some music and then some speakers and some music and some speakers and just kind of mixing it up and um overall an educational not just an entertainment event but an educational event as well is this kind of some kind of track record of the efficacy of this kind of a program does it help is there any way of measuring whether it sounds um we have we do have several success stories uh from the last couple of years from just anecdotal stories from people who have approached us and shared their story uh based on their experience afterward um but there's no empirical data or anything like that I think the only thing that you could go to would be if we had a number of who would the number that had attended I think that's the only thing yeah the Ted thousands of attendees the grass area at the fairgrounds has been full for the last two years there we don't know the exact numbers because we didn't ticket attendees or anything there there was a really big turnout both years that whole grass area being full but what you said earlier is that either the Cache County will have it in their budget and foot the bill or it will come out of the wraps they're like no what what happened the last two years was the County Council allocated restaurant tax money to this project so they were funded through these funds the last two years uh yeah it was just under the fairgrounds event center is who it was through and not I don't know if it shows but it did not go through the application process right I see yeah didn't go through this process because it came up um it came up later uh in the year and it was just kind of a last minute thing ended up being very successful and then was done again the next year the first year actually what happened was the um the group came to the council and said here's this event we want to do we think we can raise the money but if not will you help us with with some restaurant tax money and that in that first year I don't remember how much of the restaurant tax money was actually used but I don't remember I don't think there was any if any it was very small because they ended up raising um here they ended up using more of the restaurant money because the Alex Boye had a last minute change in a schedule and it had to be moved up a couple months earlier in the year and they didn't so they didn't have as much time to fundraise and but the intent the intent is to be able to fundraise again this year and and be able to pay for most of the expenses through fundraising when you said the group came who was the group that came to the county and asked the first of the first year the the fairgrounds event center the the group was the cash Suicide Prevention Coalition no no it was the event center that came out it was um now the suicide prevention Coalition has been brought in as a partner oh okay but when this first came up it was simply staff at the Event Center who got this idea and decided to do it they're really good at holding events that's all they do all day every day all year round they put on events there and they heard about an event that had been hosted down on the Wasatch Front with Alex Boye and they thought you know we could we could do this here and decided to to put it on and then um there are a couple of people involved over there who've been personally affected by Suicide and um a because of that they're very passionate about this and that's why they took the lead the first two years on on organizing this event um I suggested to them though that this isn't really it's not really their job their job is to put on events but not necessarily to provide Mental Health Resources and things and that's why I encourage bringing the suicide prevention Coalition in to be a partner as well as a number of other partners agencies and organizations non-profit organizations and so it's it's a lot more I think formal and organized now with these different groups and and I think they're going to make an even better event this year it sounded like it was put on an event to have an event to use a facility and then we found somebody to back that event I I just I don't know if that's where we fit I have a little different perspective I I love the event I love the the activity I I think it's really cool I I have a lot of uh concern about ways that society that suicide is affecting our communities I see it among students at USU we've I've seen I've seen it among my my kids peers in the high schools um the the part that I have the hardest time with this application is not the merits of the event it it's whether it really whether it falls under tourism promotion and of course Arts Recreation and Zoo if if this can fall under Arts then I I don't have any issue with the event it does this one have to be under the tourism promotion component though it's a it's a new one and and when we put it in um we did it did qualify let me what could it qualify under Arts as well if it can qualify under our music we have multiple other music groups yeah under Arts I'd have to and I'm not even necessarily arguing for full funding for it I I like the I is there what kinds of stages do we use when the when the county fair hosts concerts and things like that are there ways that we can scale this so that you know the the idea of budgeting 15 000 every dollars every year to rent a stage doesn't fit for me put an application in the build stage but uh yeah let's build the capacity and buy the county fairgrounds a stage so that that this event can happen for three thousand dollars or or ten thousand dollars every time instead or thing things like that uh so I I I do really like the core music but I can't let my likes of One Thing versus another thing dictate what I recommend funding for it has to fit with the program I think I would have left the ten thousand I would guess that this could fit under Arts um I I would just say there's a lot of stuff that we're we're considering today and have considered today you guys have considered today and they're mostly all about fun uh they're pretty much all about entertainment they're about arts and entertainment maybe some educational components in in some of them um this one this one is different it feels different it looks different sounds different because it is different it is about arts and entertainment but it's about arts and entertainment for a different cause this is for a cause that is a very important cause in our community and I don't know how how familiar all of you are with the Mental Health crisis that we have in our community right now but there are a significant number of people who are dying from suicide in our community on a very regular basis to a regular basis in fact this morning our Human Resources Director and our victim Services director and our counseling firm that we work with met with some of our employees in one of our departments because one of our employees died by Suicide this weekend do is there anything it is obviously a I mean it's care you have to be careful with a topic like this but is there anything to show it's success and hoping that I don't know how much success do we have from American Festival course I don't know each of you I know either I'm yeah I'm just asking the questions each of these we could have that same argument about each one of these how much of an impact did they make on our community from an economic standpoint from an educational standpoint from an entertainment standpoint that's a good question to ask that about to piggyback on that David a little success to go a long way if it's measured in that in the right perspective something like that's kind of hard to measure though that's what I'm saying it a little goes a long way if you if you say one life it's done like you've funded it but that's well I'm still on the favor of giving them something I agree with what you're saying Bruce it may not fit in that do you feel like a square or the right block and in the past it sounds like they have found a fair amount of funding from other locations is that still an option are they growing it is it how does that look that's the plan and ideally this event happens without even needing to touch this money that's what happened the first year yes he said that's that's the goal is to raise enough money that this doesn't need to happen and what the council did that first year which I thought was was awesome was they said we'll we will provide this funding if you need it and um and then they said the same thing last year and they did need it last year and they used the funding going forward um how exactly that looks why did we uh that's a good question or good thought right there you brought up that we did not need at the first year and then we needed a second what was the difference then the difference was that in the second year um Alex Boye changed his schedule and had to move it up a couple of months so they hadn't was some fundraising yeah no time to raise the money changed they went from like multiple months to raise the money to less months to raise the money so the fundraising window closed on and some some of the people who donated the first year did not participate the second year for various reasons we're hoping some of them come back this year um but it was different the second year there was a short shortened unexpected time frame second year and then um but it sounds like this was semi-successful through covid difficult times so I mean just to have some momentum there in that time yeah yeah and there's a lot of momentum I think it was a great event the first year and a shroud last year as well it's but it is how much does it help did it help one one person yeah we have several stories they actually made a series of videos afterward uh of people who attended people who were touched people who were inspired people who were motivated to videos that all right I mean had does the public see that like how does yeah yeah so they use those videos as um additional uh educational and informative material that they shared through social media online with people afterward to continue the message I I'm uncomfortable making a recommendation on this my recommendation is that we let the County Council decide I don't know that I'm would be willing to recommend any amount to it but do we leave enough that if the council wants to do it that they can they decide at that level rather than this at this level I'd put 10 in total respect I I would maybe think about putting 10 in and then if the County Council wants to see it fully funded or at least insured against the ability to to get funding they can bump it up to 25. but for my part I'm comfortable with 10 but one voice among many here why can they pull in a truck and do it off the back of a truck that'll be a cool show I I think I I think this is a really good program and I I think we should fund a little bit of a I'm willing to go 15. I'm more in line with you I think I'm in line with uh with Barbara I think it's an excellent program and it's a kind of a wait and see but I think the program is going to be beneficial to anybody who who participates or watches and hopefully it will save a few people right in the Arts category it fits the only problem is is is I can put it in as a qualifying experience I can put it in they're a non-profit United Way is a non-profit I can put it in as cultural Organization for ongoing operation expenses for theater but the problem is is United Way their primary purpose is not a cultural or Arts and that's why we put it in under tourism so that it could qualify that way that makes sense yeah let's go ahead and make a decision and go on I I'd put it at 10 or or 15 uh 15 would be fine with me if the County Council wants to revisit that but I I'm I I would it makes it a lot easier for this board each time it reviews it there's a clearer link to tourism promotion in the way they apply for it in the application um I is speaking from the County Council point of view putting you know either 10 or 15 in it's going to probably be bought before the council anyway and so if the council feels like they want to make up the difference on it then that's a decision we'll make later on it yeah I like that idea Barbara I think that's a great approach because you're exactly right the council could just be easier for me to vote it but vote for it or to put money towards it if it said hey we had an event the first time we had an event we had 500 people attend second time we had two thousand attend that would be more meaningful to me as a tourism item than just hey we're going to have a concert and whoever shows up shows up but it's hard when it is line items that are hard to wrap your head around there there were several thousand people each time like I said it wasn't ticketed so we don't know exactly but the lawn was full both years and I've heard estimates from 2500 to 5 000. as far as how many people attended maybe we should be keeping better records of attendance well and on their application that would help us a lot exactly the application came across like hey I would I'd put 15 to it and put it to the council one thing that got to be real I think we need to be real careful is a one is if we start the president I'm worried we should never ever prey on the plight of others and I say that in the in in the way that I say that is that we should never take an issue that is a very sensitive issue and we should let let other organizations we should never take tax money to be part of a fundraiser uh for us and it'll never end well you'll have autism you'll have uh homelessness you'll have I mean we could just go on and on and on with uh putting this money that was generated for specific purposes to everyone's plight and I just I I am personally this this uh the concert itself should be very independent it should be by itself but the group that did it they shouldn't you know yes we'll get maybe give them a break on a mental or something like that or free but it should be a different organization that is doing it completely we had the same discussion two years ago when the United Way and they put it on here exactly they wanted to have a pickleball tournament yeah we're gonna have a pickleball tournament everybody's going to pay in and we're going to raise money for whatever cause it was and for it was for suicide again I think for suicide prevention and that was two years ago and he said no that doesn't work and I think we had that same discussion today and we to answer your concerns Dave under Utah state law counties are responsible for mental health and so that's why we have a fair mental health that we've partnered with our neighboring counties to create and to address mental health in our communities that's why we have the Bear River Health Department that we partnered with our neighboring counties to create and that's why I have pulled them into this event and they're they're part of it now because they are our mental health agencies and and they're great Partners I'm glad to have them there they're they're doing a good job but it is our responsibility as a County to make sure our community is healthy and that's a big part of rap so a lot of the stuff that we're doing in wraps helps us to create a healthy Community whether it's it's mental health or physical health so I I think this is a good project and a good program for us to be partners with them on I'm thankful that we had staff who it wasn't necessarily their job but they were creative they saw a need and they stepped up and they were willing to to help with this importantly even though it wasn't really specifically their job we are we are working now in a little different way and including the people whose job it is like the suicide prevention Coalition and the mental health agencies they're much more engaged with this now but it is definitely a good cause okay so you know 10 15. fifteen okay we'll go with 15. 71. this is 15. uh 76.76 the 47th program I'm gonna be I'm gonna recuse and in fact if this is the last one we have to go to 23 again oh dang it okay we can hurry and do that uh summer citizens 30 we gave him 15 last year and yeah I'm suggesting to give them the same thing this year based on our discussions it said that we awarded him zero but I thought we gave him 15. you gave him 15 and 20 20 years ago zero uh two years ago they forgot they were in the transition that's right directors and they didn't apply I think should match that I head down here 15 but whatever I've heard it four times fifteen okay fine with me okay we're just about there it's 23. this one here was brought out of res and was resurrected so this one wasn't wrapped in with the other Trail stuff we looked at earlier this is a different entity oh gotcha Trails cash and cash trails and Cache Valley trails and this is Cash Trails Alliance is a non-profit the others are associated with the county study right essentially I'd say they're going to conduct a survey or basically a study to prepare for a environmental study so that they could see where the trail is best suited as far as the path goes and and then the Logan ranger district will do the chances of success in the NEPA process those are as I've heard the tale notoriously difficult long-winding Trails if I there is the word that way or did the applicants give a sense of that I I didn't get it from the application but I not in speaking with them or in the application that I and you re you review them much deeper than I do um so I I can't answer that well it's this is the initial this is just the step one yeah can we do this I know but you need this about five to ten years would be typical for the NEPA process from what I understand I don't have a lot of experience in this building Trail according to Naper brothers or just to get us just to get NEPA approval uh NEPA is the National Environmental Protection act or something like that is the process that you have to go through to get to change uses and get these kinds of things permitted on federal lands um the number one killer of all good projects
well I think this is right in line with what our I mean what we're looking at this this looks like to me this looks like grass money this is this potentially builds a bigger ample structure but it's it's I understand it's a hard process how long has cash Trails Lions been out there I don't remember no I know I'm pretty sure at least that it's still young but I'm sure pretty sure they're three or four years old I don't think they're much older than that though because I haven't heard of it before though I think they've been around a little longer than that but but not that much longer it I don't know less than 10 but I think more than five but I don't know for sure this is a pretty big there is a little part of me that that kind of get gets a little grumpy at this particular proposal in the sense that I'm frustrated that that the federal government gives a NEPA process and then they fund people to staff the forest service but they're not staffed at a level where they have the capacity to actually do the NEPA process that's defined by which they can do their jobs and I I probably just need to set aside my grumpiness with that aspect of this and and and make a judgment on the merits of the process of getting it done or not getting it done but I um I agree with you though as far as someone else getting money from the county to go ahead and do to do the NEPA you know I'm very much if it had a a beginning within area that we really had control of maybe an end or just somewhere that you know we really the county had uh kind of a more of a control in a yeah we're going to run the trail through this part of the county and then it's going to join up somewhere where it is entirely in the within the forest service boundary I think that this I hate to say it but 21 000 May be lost or may who knows how long I I don't see a whole lot of outcome for a long long time the trouble I I had with it is how was they going to spend the money two crew members that's so much for so many hours and a CTA director who are these people are they additional people they're all Forest Service aren't they why do they need money to do something that they're already being paid I got the sense that we just the forest service says this is great it would take two people 30 to 45 days to conduct the surveys and get things ready to roll through NEPA who were those people uh the the those people would be people that cash Trails Alliance hires using the money that wraps so these are additional folks I presume or or maybe they would use it to pay their own people use it to pay their own people then their their own people are already there already there normally a consultant is used for these types of things and that was my assumption what they were planning to do Nipa is a pretty specialized area to be you working in I well that's that's the thing that bothers me is I don't know where we know none CTA I think is Cash Trails Alliance so I I think it's associated with cash Trails Hawaiians those those individuals I think was my understanding their successes or anything like that what they've done in the past were they instrumentals that another project yes that was their project I think so yeah I think that was actually pretty successful they've been very successful they've um this the guy who founded this is the one that I appointed to the open space committee as the trails expert because they have had a significant amount of successes in recent years in getting Trails done with very little money from us um that most of their projects they're doing on their own raising money volunteer we're getting volunteers donating land things like that so they've been very successful I think and a project like this is It's ambitious but who else is going to attack it like the county is not going to attack it you know maybe it's a multi-county situation I don't know what specifically what kind of Trail I think multi-use I think it's a multi-use I almost nowadays that's almost all they do but um oh um for hiking and biking non-motorized uh what is my memory from the application because there's already a lot of double track or some double track up there if I remember the application um double track your neighbor process you could add on another five years I can imagine so it was number 23 the same group was number 21. the the 1920 and 21 and you know 18 through 21 are all cash are generated at all no they collaborate with one another but they are separate um 27 or excuse me 18 19 20 and 21 are um associated with our development services Cache County um the one that you're talking about 23 is Cash Trails Alliance it's a non-profit they collaborate they work with our County trail system our coordinator but it's a separate entity it's a it's a non-profit what that entity right there what what's skin in the game do they have that they are they bringing anything else except they're going to go do some hiring they're going to go do legwork right the cash count or cash Alliance donations do they have anything like that to match with this money they're doing everything else yeah I think they're asking us for is this money they'll probably build the trail and everything they're going to build it yes in here that they will go build it that's how they've done their other Trails is with volunteer work if we if we get approval they'll go if well if you get it through the whole process if you give approval they start the process they get authorization to go in Forest Service land then they go build it proposal in their budget table one it says a twelve thousand dollar cost for the trail crew to do the layout four thousand dollars for time of the cash trials director on the project on five thousand dollars for schools and Equipment costs what if we funded say either the 12 000 yeah maybe the other volunteer or this uh and and but not the director time of the tools and equipment costs or something of that nature there's not page numbers within their application but I think it's two sheets from the back of it it's not a bad proposal so that way we're not we're not just funding their director um and and we're inviting them to bring their tools and equipment with the organization already has but we are providing some support for those two people to come in and do the new classes so are you facing the 12 000 plus the five for equipment I I was thinking just the 12 I I I'm not sure what equipment didn't really spell it out it would look like for for just doing Special I guess is a duper do chainsaw or something I don't know but even then if they're not building the trail yet it shouldn't be Trail building right it's not Trail building well I have a question what's the director's um puts their role in this if we were to fund the directors and the equipment could the director start working on the trail without adding some additional people well and to be fair I don't it that's a really good question like is that I don't think in this group I don't have a ton of experience with it but nobody stands their own points you know like there's no there's no just supervisor role everybody's pretty busy doing it so my guess is they're probably recouping it at least not totally volunteering in their whole life this is probably their wife driving the situation you can't leave the house all the time I don't know it's interesting I'm not sure yeah so that's I don't know if that means supervisors or managers or I'm not sure what that means it's an interesting application for directors of the alliance that's what it looks like it does make it a little harder to to know what to do well it's that's this is the last one yeah I kind of like your idea why'd we leave this one to the pathways leave it for the council yeah if if I've got everything in and I've tried to check as your com as you're discussing um without any money towards number 23 there is 721 807 left with regrets I'm I have a three o'clock appointment on campus should we go with Damon's suggestion though of 12 000 on this I like it I say no but I say leave at the council let's talk about there but that's fine put it down 12 and we'll talk about it anyway so well I just I want to see more skin in the game in this thing I like to see not just the I look it's an organization putting it into it yeah we're going to bring of the 21 000 we got six thousand dollars raised you know to participate with budget for this organization yeah what do they do exactly there's nothing that's what I'm wondering what is this organization yeah they work together so on May 10th there's an adopt a trails uh event at the Fairgrounds if you would like more information they'll all be there so they have a board of directors of 10 and um they've probably been in 12 for seven years a lot of their this trail system that's happening in cash county is from the alliance the people that are on their board what were those dates again
well I think this is right in line with what our I mean what we're looking at this this looks like to me this looks like grass money this is this potentially builds a bigger ample structure but it's it's I understand it's a hard process how long has cash Trails Lions been out there I don't remember no I know I'm pretty sure at least that it's still young but I'm sure pretty sure they're three or four years old I don't think they're much older than that though because I haven't heard of it before though I think they've been around a little longer than that but but not that much longer it I don't know less than 10 but I think more than five but I don't know for sure this is a pretty big there is a little part of me that that kind of get gets a little grumpy at this particular proposal in the sense that I'm frustrated that that the federal government gives a NEPA process and then they fund people to staff the forest service but they're not staffed at a level where they have the capacity to actually do the NEPA process that's defined by which they can do their jobs and I I probably just need to set aside my grumpiness with that aspect of this and and and make a judgment on the merits of the process of getting it done or not getting it done but I um I agree with you though as far as someone else getting money from the county to go ahead and do to do the NEPA you know I'm very much if it had a a beginning within area that we really had control of maybe an end or just somewhere that you know we really the county had uh kind of a more of a control in a yeah we're going to run the trail through this part of the county and then it's going to join up somewhere where it is entirely in the within the forest service boundary I think that this I hate to say it but 21 000 May be lost or may who knows how long I I don't see a whole lot of outcome for a long long time the trouble I I had with it is how was they going to spend the money two crew members that's so much for so many hours and a CTA director who are these people are they additional people they're all Forest Service aren't they why do they need money to do something that they're already being paid I got the sense that we just the forest service says this is great it would take two people 30 to 45 days to conduct the surveys and get things ready to roll through NEPA who were those people uh the the those people would be people that cash Trails Alliance hires using the money that wraps so these are additional folks I presume or or maybe they would use it to pay their own people use it to pay their own people then their their own people are already there already there normally a consultant is used for these types of things and that was my assumption what they were planning to do Nipa is a pretty specialized area to be you working in I well that's that's the thing that bothers me is I don't know where we know none CTA I think is Cash Trails Alliance so I I think it's associated with cash Trails Hawaiians those those individuals I think was my understanding their successes or anything like that what they've done in the past were they instrumentals that another project yes that was their project I think so yeah I think that was actually pretty successful they've been very successful they've um this the guy who founded this is the one that I appointed to the open space committee as the trails expert because they have had a significant amount of successes in recent years in getting Trails done with very little money from us um that most of their projects they're doing on their own raising money volunteer we're getting volunteers donating land things like that so they've been very successful I think and a project like this is It's ambitious but who else is going to attack it like the county is not going to attack it you know maybe it's a multi-county situation I don't know what specifically what kind of Trail I think multi-use I think it's a multi-use I almost nowadays that's almost all they do but um oh um for hiking and biking non-motorized uh what is my memory from the application because there's already a lot of double track or some double track up there if I remember the application um double track your neighbor process you could add on another five years I can imagine so it was number 23 the same group was number 21. the the 1920 and 21 and you know 18 through 21 are all cash are generated at all no they collaborate with one another but they are separate um 27 or excuse me 18 19 20 and 21 are um associated with our development services Cache County um the one that you're talking about 23 is Cash Trails Alliance it's a non-profit they collaborate they work with our County trail system our coordinator but it's a separate entity it's a it's a non-profit what that entity right there what what's skin in the game do they have that they are they bringing anything else except they're going to go do some hiring they're going to go do legwork right the cash count or cash Alliance donations do they have anything like that to match with this money they're doing everything else yeah I think they're asking us for is this money they'll probably build the trail and everything they're going to build it yes in here that they will go build it that's how they've done their other Trails is with volunteer work if we if we get approval they'll go if well if you get it through the whole process if you give approval they start the process they get authorization to go in Forest Service land then they go build it proposal in their budget table one it says a twelve thousand dollar cost for the trail crew to do the layout four thousand dollars for time of the cash trials director on the project on five thousand dollars for schools and Equipment costs what if we funded say either the 12 000 yeah maybe the other volunteer or this uh and and but not the director time of the tools and equipment costs or something of that nature there's not page numbers within their application but I think it's two sheets from the back of it it's not a bad proposal so that way we're not we're not just funding their director um and and we're inviting them to bring their tools and equipment with the organization already has but we are providing some support for those two people to come in and do the new classes so are you facing the 12 000 plus the five for equipment I I was thinking just the 12 I I I'm not sure what equipment didn't really spell it out it would look like for for just doing Special I guess is a duper do chainsaw or something I don't know but even then if they're not building the trail yet it shouldn't be Trail building right it's not Trail building well I have a question what's the director's um puts their role in this if we were to fund the directors and the equipment could the director start working on the trail without adding some additional people well and to be fair I don't it that's a really good question like is that I don't think in this group I don't have a ton of experience with it but nobody stands their own points you know like there's no there's no just supervisor role everybody's pretty busy doing it so my guess is they're probably recouping it at least not totally volunteering in their whole life this is probably their wife driving the situation you can't leave the house all the time I don't know it's interesting I'm not sure yeah so that's I don't know if that means supervisors or managers or I'm not sure what that means it's an interesting application for directors of the alliance that's what it looks like it does make it a little harder to to know what to do well it's that's this is the last one yeah I kind of like your idea why'd we leave this one to the pathways leave it for the council yeah if if I've got everything in and I've tried to check as your com as you're discussing um without any money towards number 23 there is 721 807 left with regrets I'm I have a three o'clock appointment on campus should we go with Damon's suggestion though of 12 000 on this I like it I say no but I say leave at the council let's talk about there but that's fine put it down 12 and we'll talk about it anyway so well I just I want to see more skin in the game in this thing I like to see not just the I look it's an organization putting it into it yeah we're going to bring of the 21 000 we got six thousand dollars raised you know to participate with budget for this organization yeah what do they do exactly there's nothing that's what I'm wondering what is this organization yeah they work together so on May 10th there's an adopt a trails uh event at the Fairgrounds if you would like more information they'll all be there so they have a board of directors of 10 and um they've probably been in 12 for seven years a lot of their this trail system that's happening in cash county is from the alliance the people that are on their board what were those dates again
so they are certified non-profit organizations they argue that they file yes okay and none of those records are with this application none of those records that tells us what you know the the impact or the how big this organization is and I'm sure if they've been filing we should have a copy of that stuff right well they're under the 25 000 threshold all we ask them for was their tax ID number right and I've confirmed that they are a non-profit but because they didn't apply for more than 25 000 they didn't need to turn in the other tax information any other suggestions we do have one at 12 I think it would be nice for the county to contribute because they this group organization and I don't know them I don't know if I've ever met but they have been great partners with our Trails office and the help of our Trails office to accomplish a lot of things that if they weren't there doing that it would have been a lot more expensive and taken a lot longer to accomplish so I think they've been a great partner with us and I think we should encourage them to keep helping us by at least partially coming their applications okay 12 000 put 12 down a little okay thank you for the County Council okay that's it there were some that you starred did you want to revisit those we're looking at sorry if you're we over in one area we can make those adjustments yeah you'll have to it's the bottom line um so we're at 709 807 left you don't have to spend it all but are allocated not suspended recommend it sorry get the right verbiage here recommend it to the council yeah it starts with City for the history you wanted to go back to that's we have earmarked we have 16 we have 20. that was another Trails project we have 66. 3 yeah 63 is what I'm saying it's going down right on page one you got 66 we had a star four yep any increase in that one do you feel that's the museum right how much do you think we ought to carry over Barbara number 66 as far as carry over for flexibility on some other things I think that's what we would last I got feeling I think that's what we had last year yeah so that being but but we've already brought that portion into this year's right and added to it okay yeah so basically we've been we wouldn't be spending all of this years and just still maintaining right last year's 400. that's not a bad idea though so so we had starts 66 on page one number 66 any additions changes there proposals how many phone calls will save you none you're fine I I think there's bigger priorities than that one I I agree I do agree let's see what the others uh on number two I believe we didn't we have that one started so that one started we had a thirty thousand was rethinking about increasing that at all that was the first one too that was yeah the very first one I'm they requested 40 and we started with 30. I'm in it so I out of a Christmas I wouldn't be opposed to that one I know that one what number was that sorry number two number two okay that okay so I read that it's increasing it to forty thousand yep okay and then the other stores if I don't have them on mine will you help me here yeah page two I didn't see any did you mine are done by the number so not by the page so my next one is 16 we start there's a Cass County Fairgrounds they're number four yeah that was only started because we allocated that total sum and then if it was left over we might revisit that we've only got that at 21 156 which is fine that's not one I would think we intentionally started so much as we just said if there's extra we can go back to it so I would it must be really feels passionate about that I would probably go back to number 20 the cash County Trails Alliance number three let's see no that one we ended up funding that puts me all the way down to those 60s that we were talking about number 16 I'm going on page five okay yeah all right number 16. sorry number four did you change that before that's the one that the only reason we didn't buy my sheet he's got his own computer so I don't know no uh number what number four that's oh okay funded no that one sorry not number four Cass County Fairgrounds number four number 16. oh no right 16. so number four number 16. which is Cass County Fairgrounds number four we had we had funded the uh 400 000 or whatever it was and then this is what was left right right I remember right it's a 21 156. correct if we got to it let's fund it okay fully agree let's fund that one fully so we're funding uh number 16 on page five sixteen sixteen that's fun that the fifty four thousand three thousand yeah yeah and then down I have River Heights City at the bottom of that one number 63. I had a star on that one yep okay what do you feel on that okay so 63 fully fund that one it would be what would the event be 100. and we should have 61 coming up 64 is coming up those are the only other two that I have 64 Stars before I start to Smithfield parks and record number one we allocated a hundred thousand yeah who was is with Smithfield City okay I don't know if you want to feel like we want to go a little more on that the other one that I see that's where can one he said 200 000 originally did me and we were talking back and forth we've increased some of even the smaller cities a little bit and Logan's been you know pretty good 400 so yeah should push that to like 150 or Smithfield Logan got you know there's they got a pretty good chunk we've done some of them City Parks and Rec we're on number 64. for Pavilion and shade structures what did we we we put 100 on Ward we have room and go if we have it enough that I probably wouldn't mind going 175 on that one but yeah I'm agreeable today that pushed it too high what number's up that's 39 um 125 they're asking for 250 . it scored really high it did um oh there we are on page five we could yeah yeah um without making let's see on 66 this was the Smithfield historical you didn't make any changes on that right no no I'm not a historical okay no change so let me um let's see where we're at work so I'm kind of curious how far off oh there we go yeah where are we at here there we go it's all gone 566 963. and we only have hiring City in Richmond city left so I would probably go 175 on that . good process guys now Richmond we didn't have another 30. request we fully oh we did we didn't find out I forgot totally funded that one so what number are we looking at I think we're actually pretty that's all that's pretty well all the stars unless someone has something okay I would find one of those well if you I guess with the rest of you let's go ahead and take this I have four yeah and then over 500 left take a if you want to take a second look at this stuff and then email just go ahead and email Alma or I saying hey you know I'd like to propose a little bit of a change then then we will take those Barbara and I will look at those we'll take those to the County Council yeah we'll go from there and what what I will do is I will finalize these numbers and send them out to you make sure they're okay and and the plan is to prepare this not County Council tomorrow I don't want to be up all night but on the 9th of May we'll plan on having it to the council well prior to that but and then uh appreciate seriously appreciate all of you I think it's been we've gone through it I'm we haven't had the meat a second time which is good and so uh but there may be an anomaly that I mean sometimes a little weird thing a glitch or something might happen right but we can work through that seven right there it recognize that as a total number 47 right there yes 40 000. yes oh it's not it is yes so down here um it's got a white background so with it yeah it's it's summed up all the way okay all right yes thank you okay and we'll go with that okay good job grab your chocolates on the way out even if it's just just I know but take some home so is the meeting adjourned then yes okay budget really no we don't have
so they are certified non-profit organizations they argue that they file yes okay and none of those records are with this application none of those records that tells us what you know the the impact or the how big this organization is and I'm sure if they've been filing we should have a copy of that stuff right well they're under the 25 000 threshold all we ask them for was their tax ID number right and I've confirmed that they are a non-profit but because they didn't apply for more than 25 000 they didn't need to turn in the other tax information any other suggestions we do have one at 12 I think it would be nice for the county to contribute because they this group organization and I don't know them I don't know if I've ever met but they have been great partners with our Trails office and the help of our Trails office to accomplish a lot of things that if they weren't there doing that it would have been a lot more expensive and taken a lot longer to accomplish so I think they've been a great partner with us and I think we should encourage them to keep helping us by at least partially coming their applications okay 12 000 put 12 down a little okay thank you for the County Council okay that's it there were some that you starred did you want to revisit those we're looking at sorry if you're we over in one area we can make those adjustments yeah you'll have to it's the bottom line um so we're at 709 807 left you don't have to spend it all but are allocated not suspended recommend it sorry get the right verbiage here recommend it to the council yeah it starts with City for the history you wanted to go back to that's we have earmarked we have 16 we have 20. that was another Trails project we have 66. 3 yeah 63 is what I'm saying it's going down right on page one you got 66 we had a star four yep any increase in that one do you feel that's the museum right how much do you think we ought to carry over Barbara number 66 as far as carry over for flexibility on some other things I think that's what we would last I got feeling I think that's what we had last year yeah so that being but but we've already brought that portion into this year's right and added to it okay yeah so basically we've been we wouldn't be spending all of this years and just still maintaining right last year's 400. that's not a bad idea though so so we had starts 66 on page one number 66 any additions changes there proposals how many phone calls will save you none you're fine I I think there's bigger priorities than that one I I agree I do agree let's see what the others uh on number two I believe we didn't we have that one started so that one started we had a thirty thousand was rethinking about increasing that at all that was the first one too that was yeah the very first one I'm they requested 40 and we started with 30. I'm in it so I out of a Christmas I wouldn't be opposed to that one I know that one what number was that sorry number two number two okay that okay so I read that it's increasing it to forty thousand yep okay and then the other stores if I don't have them on mine will you help me here yeah page two I didn't see any did you mine are done by the number so not by the page so my next one is 16 we start there's a Cass County Fairgrounds they're number four yeah that was only started because we allocated that total sum and then if it was left over we might revisit that we've only got that at 21 156 which is fine that's not one I would think we intentionally started so much as we just said if there's extra we can go back to it so I would it must be really feels passionate about that I would probably go back to number 20 the cash County Trails Alliance number three let's see no that one we ended up funding that puts me all the way down to those 60s that we were talking about number 16 I'm going on page five okay yeah all right number 16. sorry number four did you change that before that's the one that the only reason we didn't buy my sheet he's got his own computer so I don't know no uh number what number four that's oh okay funded no that one sorry not number four Cass County Fairgrounds number four number 16. oh no right 16. so number four number 16. which is Cass County Fairgrounds number four we had we had funded the uh 400 000 or whatever it was and then this is what was left right right I remember right it's a 21 156. correct if we got to it let's fund it okay fully agree let's fund that one fully so we're funding uh number 16 on page five sixteen sixteen that's fun that the fifty four thousand three thousand yeah yeah and then down I have River Heights City at the bottom of that one number 63. I had a star on that one yep okay what do you feel on that okay so 63 fully fund that one it would be what would the event be 100. and we should have 61 coming up 64 is coming up those are the only other two that I have 64 Stars before I start to Smithfield parks and record number one we allocated a hundred thousand yeah who was is with Smithfield City okay I don't know if you want to feel like we want to go a little more on that the other one that I see that's where can one he said 200 000 originally did me and we were talking back and forth we've increased some of even the smaller cities a little bit and Logan's been you know pretty good 400 so yeah should push that to like 150 or Smithfield Logan got you know there's they got a pretty good chunk we've done some of them City Parks and Rec we're on number 64. for Pavilion and shade structures what did we we we put 100 on Ward we have room and go if we have it enough that I probably wouldn't mind going 175 on that one but yeah I'm agreeable today that pushed it too high what number's up that's 39 um 125 they're asking for 250 . it scored really high it did um oh there we are on page five we could yeah yeah um without making let's see on 66 this was the Smithfield historical you didn't make any changes on that right no no I'm not a historical okay no change so let me um let's see where we're at work so I'm kind of curious how far off oh there we go yeah where are we at here there we go it's all gone 566 963. and we only have hiring City in Richmond city left so I would probably go 175 on that . good process guys now Richmond we didn't have another 30. request we fully oh we did we didn't find out I forgot totally funded that one so what number are we looking at I think we're actually pretty that's all that's pretty well all the stars unless someone has something okay I would find one of those well if you I guess with the rest of you let's go ahead and take this I have four yeah and then over 500 left take a if you want to take a second look at this stuff and then email just go ahead and email Alma or I saying hey you know I'd like to propose a little bit of a change then then we will take those Barbara and I will look at those we'll take those to the County Council yeah we'll go from there and what what I will do is I will finalize these numbers and send them out to you make sure they're okay and and the plan is to prepare this not County Council tomorrow I don't want to be up all night but on the 9th of May we'll plan on having it to the council well prior to that but and then uh appreciate seriously appreciate all of you I think it's been we've gone through it I'm we haven't had the meat a second time which is good and so uh but there may be an anomaly that I mean sometimes a little weird thing a glitch or something might happen right but we can work through that seven right there it recognize that as a total number 47 right there yes 40 000. yes oh it's not it is yes so down here um it's got a white background so with it yeah it's it's summed up all the way okay all right yes thank you okay and we'll go with that okay good job grab your chocolates on the way out even if it's just just I know but take some home so is the meeting adjourned then yes okay budget really no we don't have